Windies vs SA @ Trinadad [8/04/05]

[Rob H]

2nd test today at Trinadad. Windies looking the favourites after a great performance in Georgetown and with Lara,Gayle,Bravo and Sarwan back.

[Khalil]

Trinadad starts turning on days 4 and 5. Saffies are poor players of spin. If the Windies bat first than they will be favourites

[Raz]

Im looking forward to the return of Lara, Sarwan, Bravo and especially Gayle. If Gayle's last Test match was anything to go by (a 81 ball century which included smashing 6 fours in one 6 ball over) then we are in for a real treat.

Not only that, in his last he lead Jamaica to a win in a final in a domestic competition with a century in both innings!

[Rob H]

any internet links for the game?

[pakistani pride]

Dont write of SA !!!

[Amjid Javed]

trinidad will be another slow low wicket, expect batsmen on both sides to fill his boots. Batting 1st will be an adavntage. shud be a gud game.

[Rob H]

When does match start?

[Amjid Javed]

5 mins time...

[Rob H]

k, i'll put TV on

[Amjid Javed]

team news

West Indies team
WW Hinds, CH Gayle, RR Sarwan, BC Lara, *S Chanderpaul,
DJ Pagon, +CO Browne, DJJ Bravo, PT Collins, RD King, DB Powell

South Africa team
*GC Smith, AB de Villiers, JA Rudolph, JH Kallis, HH Gibbs,
+MV Boucher, a prince N Boje, M Ntini, m zondeki , A Nel

west indies won the toss and will bat 1st.

[Amjid Javed]

wicket looks very hard however it does have alot off grass on it. scores off under 200 are very rare.. 400+ is always seen as a par 1st inns total.

[Raz]

7-0 after 4 overs.

[Amjid Javed]

new ball being wasted here.. nels not even bowled 1 straight ball yet..

am intrested to see zondeki bowl when he gets the chance.

[Amjid Javed]

gayle gone

w.i 7-1

ugly slog pull from gayle caught boucher superb bowling by ntini

[Raz]

Gayle gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Naheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!

[HAFRIDI]

dam gayle my fav playa!

[Raz]

Hes usually so good at the pull shot!

[Amjid Javed]

sarwan in and off mark 1st ball with sqaure drive for 4

[Rob H]

Pity Gayle out, i wanted to see some exciting strokes

[Raz]

dam gayle my fav playa!

Mine too from the Windies team and second only to Shahid in World Cricket!

[Amjid Javed]

sarwan gone... pull shot top edge

caught fine leg...

ntini strikes age

13/2

bring back the west indies "b" team

[Rob H]

Ntini on fire. Exploiting the bounce

[Amjid Javed]

two very very poor shots thus far...

ntini bowling well thou

[Rob H]

Ball is coming on quick to the bat. No wonder they both top edged it

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

nice bowling

[Rob H]

I enjoy hearing Ntini scream when he gets a wicket

[Officer Barbrady]

Sarwan and Gayle love to throw their wickets away. I don't think Sarwan has done full justice to his role at number 3.

[Amjid Javed]

w.i 23/2 off 10 overs

[Rob H]

SA looking good

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

sarwan is a very classy player - great to watch when in full flow, maybe chanderpaul should bat at 3 with sarwan at 5

[Officer Barbrady]

sarwan is a very classy player - great to watch when in full flow, maybe chanderpaul should bat at 3 with sarwan at 5

No doubt but he does throw his wicket too often for my liking. I think he can be compulsive hooker and gets out on that too often. Also his record so far doesn't do justice to his talent.

If one looks at his record he has probably been out caught by 'others' many times which includes loose shots getting him out at sq leg or point. Needs to show more consistency. Same goes for Gayle.

[Amjid Javed]

sarwan is a very classy player - great to watch when in full flow, maybe chanderpaul should bat at 3 with sarwan at 5

No doubt but he does throw his wicket too often for my liking. I think he can be compulsive hooker and gets out on that too often. Also his record so far doesn't do justice to his talent.

If one looks at his record he has probably been out caught by 'others' many times which includes loose shots getting him out at sq leg or point. Needs to show more consistency. Same goes for Gayle.

;)+ ;)+ sarwan has immense talent but doesnt justuify it fully in tests... agree 100%

[Rob H]

sarwan is a very classy player - great to watch when in full flow, maybe chanderpaul should bat at 3 with sarwan at 5

No doubt but he does throw his wicket too often for my liking. I think he can be compulsive hooker and gets out on that too often. Also his record so far doesn't do justice to his talent.

If one looks at his record he has probably been out caught by 'others' many times which includes loose shots getting him out at sq leg or point. Needs to show more consistency. Same goes for Gayle.

;)+ ;)+ sarwan has immense talent but doesnt justuify it fully in tests... agree 100%

Sarwan hasn't really performed in tests but has performed in ODI. Do you think he tries to play a bit different in tests to ODI? If he does then should'nt he bat more like he does in the ODIs? :)?

[Officer Barbrady]

I think he plays in a similar fashion to ODI's. But in tests he has to control his (high risk) hooks and airy drives early on to be more consistent. Most of the time you will see him getting out going for his shots rather than bowlers getting him out.

[Amjid Javed]

sarwans very loose in his play wether it be attack and defense... in odis u can get away with that to an extent in tests u cant.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

in odi's he has been very good for the windies

[Rob H]

I dunno how he's No1 ODI batsman though. He didnt do anything special in the VB series apart from 2 fifties against Pak

[Rob H]

53-2, Lara taking it to Zondeki

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

good to see - lara in full flow!!!!!

[Officer Barbrady]

Wah. Would love to see Lara bat in this mode and hopefully without the captaincy he will bat more freely.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

37 off 41 now lara!!!!!!!! great to watch

[Rob H]

Lara spanking the proteas

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

great to see the GREATEST batsman in the world playing well

[Pax]

Looks like Lara will score 250+.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

67/2 off 22

lara 38*
hinds 14*

these two steadying the ship

[Raz]

And Bennet King was only saying the other day that Lara was looking rusty in the nets. Look at him now in full flow a true sign of a great batsmen and in my opinion the greatest in the world.

[Officer Barbrady]

He also has a point to make ...and tends to play better when that is the case.

[Raz]

Yeah thats when he got that 400*! When the pressure was really on!

[DM]

Zondeki looks like a good pacer for SA

Mid and sometimes high 80s mph so far.
One was timed at 94.3mph but im convinced that was an error as it didn't look much different and the was 10mph faster than what he was normally bowling

[Rob H]

Lara looking supreme

[Raz]

Windies 71-2 after 36 overs at lunch.

Lara 41* (Looking in superb touch)
W Hinds 15*

[Rob H]

Lara on course for a big score

[sajjad]

yup...lara looking in fine form

[sajjad]

past 50 now. will he get another hundred here

[sajjad]

2 beautiful boundaries..
what class

[sajjad]

hinds gone...wonder how thisll effect Lara

[Rob H]

Lara'll carry on. He is a man on a mission

[Raz]

Latest score 124-3. Lara on 74 :)

[Rob H]

Lara could get 400 the way he's batting

[Amjid Javed]

LARA is at his majestic best i hope he gets a really big hundred

[Amjid Javed]

West Indies 140/3

rain stopped play - early tea being taken

[Rob H]

Hope it's not raining for long

[Fawad]

There's only one Lara! He is at his vintage best, there's no better sight in cricket than watching Lara in full flow. Without a shadow of doubt the greatest batsman in the world 2day.

Best batsmen in the world:

1) Lara





























2) Tendu

[Saj]

Theres no sight quite like it is there, those Trinny possie girls, oops I mean Brian Lara at his best.

He reminds me of a magician who has a wand in his hand, just waves the wand and the ball disappears to the boundary in a flash.

[Awesome Anjum]

lol@Saj

[Amjid Javed]

West Indies 162/3

lara hammering kallis around the park...

[Amjid Javed]

lara now decides to give zondeki a beating

lara onto 94 now...

[DM]

Lara is performing genocide

[Juggy D]

SA's attack is toothless. Can see Lara getting a big one here. :)

[Amjid Javed]

chanderpaul playing well, seems hes jusy countinued from guyana...

[sajjad]

another good batting wicket...bowlers cannot do anything at the moment

plus, lara has always played well here. is he aiming for 500 this time..hehe!

almost at the century mark

[DM]

the wicket is pretty dead i wouldnt blame it all on the bowlers

i remember we came here and but for the genius of Akram, it looked mighty impossible to get someone out

[Amjid Javed]

this is laras 1st match for 3 months... wish i had his touch!

[Amjid Javed]

thumping cut shot for 2 runs by lara

now onto 98

[DM]

i wish i could touch HIM!

[Rob H]

i wish i could touch HIM!

:O

[Oxy]

DM...now I am worried!

[Rob H]

me 2 Oxy. Is DM gay?

[Amjid Javed]

100 for lara

his 27th test ton

[Rob H]

great knock by BCL

[Fawad]

Scintallating knock by the one and only Brian Charles Lara!
:D>

[Raz]

What an innings from the great man!

[Amjid Javed]

chanderpaul gone c&b boje

w.i 203/4

[DM]

Brilliant batting by Lara, really pummeling them now!


And i'm sorry to dash your hopes RH, but i'm not gay at the moment. But who knows, maybe down the line my mum'll suddenly start wanting me to draw her naked or i'll have some other experience strong enough to rewire my orientation. Never lose hope :**

[Rob H]

No, not for me DM. I was asking for Amjid

[Raz]

Chanderpaul gone! And he was looking so good! Lets see what Pagon can do. Hes got a good reputation so hopefully he can stick around with Lara.

[Amjid Javed]

pagon gone for a duck

clean bowled by ntini

w.i 204/5

s.africa on top

[DM]

:D

[Raz]

And just i was talking about Pagon he goes! Bravo really needs to prove himself here. I feel he hasnt done complete justice with the bat either at ODI or Test level.

[Officer Barbrady]

You guys were saying the pitch is very flat. So it has been poor batting mainly?

[Amjid Javed]

The pitch isnt flat, there is some bounce and grass aids swing and seam early on. every dismissal has been self-induced.

[Officer Barbrady]

So it's another very good inning for Lara?

[Raz]

Yeah i agree. Gayle and Sarwans was very disappointing!

[Rob H]

So it's another very good inning for Lara?

Yup ;)+

[Raz]

Bravo gone now! Wickets are falling like leaves here!

[sajjad]

lara will end up not out

[Amjid Javed]

w.i 225/6

browne almost goes aswell... looked plumb

not given

[sajjad]

just outside off man

and he was well forward

[Amjid Javed]

just outside off man

and he was well forward

i agree after seeing replays... looked plumb on 1st impression, watching replays can change ur view thou.

[sajjad]

yeah imagine how tuf it is for the umpires...they get one shot and if theyr wrong as u wud have been there, had u been the umpire..theyr dead meat.
its just so tuf for them to compete with the high tech gadgets out there

[Amjid Javed]

if i was the bowler i wud have been screaming LBW.

yes umpires get things wrong but thats made worse beacuse off 10,000 diff replays...!

i think players shud be made to umpire at some point to see how hard it is

[pak_all_the_way]

just got hold of remote at work

i could watch lara bat forever man

[pak_all_the_way]

aleem dar stamping his authority on bowler

GO ALEEM

[dan hudson]

Brian Charles Lara...God.

[Officer Barbrady]

i could watch lara bat forever man

same here...

Anyone recording his inning and posting later or something??

[DM]

ALEEM DAR IS ACTUALLY WAQAR YOUNIS!!

[Sheikh_Ji]

where are tino best, fidel edwards and jeramine lawson??
these 3 were until recently regarded by WI experts as the future of WI bowling..... :|

[sajjad]

lara doint it once again.
he score like 60%+ of the total runs.
truly amazing

[Uzi]

West Indies 318/7 (97.3 ov)

Lara 171*

[Uzi]

97.4 Ntini to Powell, OUT: Gone! good come back delivery from Ntini!
from wide of the crease, angling in and keeps low, Powell unable
to digs it out, ball hits the middle stump

[Officer Barbrady]

The West Indian buffoons should be ashamed of this performance --except for King Lara of course.

[Uzi]

100.4 Nel to Collins, OUT: pitches outside off and swings in, Collins
goes back and tries to play across the line, ball hits on pad
plumb infront of middle stump, shout for lbw, finger goes up in
flash

[Uzi]

104.4 Nel to Lara, OUT: Gone! from round the wicket, slower ball, pitches
on middle stump and shapes away, Lara tries to defend it on the
frotn foot, gets beaten, ball clips the bail on the top of off
stump on the way to keeper, a great innings comes to an end


Lara just missed put on double century. 196

[Uzi]

WI 347 AO

[DM]

WOWWWWW!!! DID ANYONE SEE THAT DELIVERY!!!

I was watching the match hoping to see 200 from Lara then OUT OF NOWHERE WOW!!

ABSOLUTELY UNPLAYABLE FROM NEL!! FREAK DELIVERY!

[Rob H]

Yeh what a great delivery by Nel

[Raz]

Current score 113-2 with Smith on 50 and Kallis on 15.

CH Gayle (OB) 9 6 7 0 0.78 (0nb, 0w) Pavilion End

Gayles current figures! Hes so underrated as an off spinner and underused at Test level.

[hasan316]

Did anyone recorded Lara's inning. he is truely the best batsman in test cricket

[MIG]

Hasan316:

Welcome to PP!

hope to see some good posts on other topics as well.

Do you think Lara will be the only big threat for Pak in their tour ?

[hasan316]

well Lara, Gayle, Powell and Sarwan will take care of batting. there bowling is weak. with only Collins and Dillion. Lara can do anything in test Cricket. I hope we can spot a 500 by LARA VS PAK when we visit WI.

[hasan316]

If we want to win in WI we need an opening partnership of 100 runs at least. what do u think? Lara can make 60% of what WI scores.

[firebelly]

did you see at what rate SA is playing its around 2.75
Smith is really master in kiling the time
atleast they should play faster so that a result can be had

[hasan316]

That's true. WI really need a good strike bowler.

[Rob H]

Play under way after a short rain break

[DM]

Zondeki still battling it out (nightwatchman)
5 off 15 so far

[Rob H]

Smith got his 100 (a while ago)

[Nawazb]

good century from smith

[Rob H]

Zondeki still in there on 11. He is doing what he did at Headingly 2 years ago. just sticking around frustrating the bowlers

[Assara K]

West Indies 347

South Africa 238/4 (92.0 ov) South Africa trail by 109 runs with 6 wickets remaining in the 1st innings

South Africa RR: 2.59


Minimum overs
remaining today: 65.0

[Rob H]

play resumes now after the lunch

[sajjad]

Sa are playing so slow...apparently they either want a draw or dont wanna bat in the 2nd innings..its slow and boring stuff

[Raz]

Latest score 286-5 South Africa with Gibbs and Prince batting.

[hasan316]

Collins to Gibbs, OUT: round the wicket, shortish, stays low, can
not get the bat down in time, off stump is knocked back

[sajjad]

KING bowling to PRINCE....man these teams are obsessed by royalty

[Hash]

serves Gibbs right. He was batting as if his life depending on him breaking the record for slowest ever innings.

This SA team seems very negative, boring and defensive to me. I suppose it is all Woolmer's fault.

[Oxy]

...and the PCBs!

[Khalil]

It's the same old Saffie mentality.

Play for a draw. Let the opposition play for a draw. A draw away from home is as good as a win.

zzzzzzz . Yawwwwwwwwwwwwn. Those guys are boring

[MWH]

I am currently unsubscribed from Sky Sports so I am somewhat deprived from watching this " entertainment".

By the looks of it, Saffies seem to want to " bore" the other team into defeat - quite like the tactics England used to win that Karachi 2000 test.

[sajjad]

GAYLE GOBBLES UP THE TAIL

SA 398 all out

WI 14/1 Gayle out for 1

wi trail by 37 runs

[Rob H]

Slow stuff from the Windies now. Especially Wavell Hinds

[Officer Barbrady]

I am currently unsubscribed from Sky Sports so I am somewhat deprived from watching this " entertainment".

By the looks of it, Saffies seem to want to " bore" the other team into defeat - quite like the tactics England used to win that Karachi 2000 test.

We were as much at fault as were the English in that particular series.

[Khalil]

Gayle looked like a crap batsman in this game but he bowled like a specialist bowler

Windies now 47 for 1 and this game seems to be heading towards a very dull draw

[hasan316]

does anyone know about any good forum for west indies.

[nufc]

omg lara bowled

[Assara K]

chanderpaul OUT!!!-wasnt out though....a bad decision by sheperd

[hasan316]

this sucks now. But still Lara is the best. next inning inshallah we will see him hitting 500.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

SA still using the woolmer way. when will they ever learn?

WI look to have improved, cricket needs a good WI team.

how are u miss karim?

[sajjad]

the woolmer way is da best way....its worked for us so far!

[Rob H]

This sort of run rate and send anybody to sle zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Khalil]

Windies now 86 for 4 with a lead of only 35 runs.

The Carribean boys have a long tail and so I cannot see them setting S.A a big target.

I predict 1-0 series lead to S.A

[Abdul Qadir 236]

sajjad, it will take u so far but teams like Aus willing to take risks will always win out.

funny how the team that played attacking cricket in the bangalore test was the one who got the result!

[sajjad]

yeah WOOLMER guided us PERFECTLY...

[Rob H]

108/5

[Abdul Qadir 236]

Bob is doing what he did with SA with Pak.
Maybe Sachin could learn from this approach!! then we wouldnt have had to yearn for the times he took bowlers apart at will!

[sajjad]

Bob has turned the pakistani team around.
we're almost EVEN with india in India....wow....even aus wud be proud of that

woolmer zindabad!!!

[Awesome Anjum]

woolly rox !

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

we did well in india - must build on it

[Rob H]

great point amjad. Pak now need to carry on their form to the Windies

[Abdul Qadir 236]

inzi did admit that india going into their shell handed it to Pakistan however they deserve a lot of credit for how they hung on in there.

turned the team around? well........u should wake up and smell the coffee. not even winning satisfies Aus, they are always looking to better themselves!

[Rob H]

129-5, Sarwan on course for a century

[Abdul Qadir 236]

great stuff - nice to see him back, he is a quality batsman. very nice to watch. sadly he and bashar are compulsive hookers and it costs them many dismissals indeed.

[Rob H]

What's Bashar got to do with Windies v SA?
See contradicting is very fun

[Rob H]

Sarwan on 74

[Rob H]

Ntini looking pacey

[Abdul Qadir 236]

just saying these are the 2 batsmen in world cricket who get out time after time playing hook shot.

[Rob H]

Well there are plenty more. Can you name them all?

[Abdul Qadir 236]

maybe but these are the 2 who stick out in my mind!

[Rob H]

http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/PICTURES/DB/042005/059598.jpg
Sarwan takes a tumble

[Khalil]

West are now leading by 104 runs. Sarwan must carry his bat to the end. South Africa are still favourites though

[Rob H]

SA should win this if they get Sarwan.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

200 could be very tricky on this pitch, even 180.

[Saj]

very easy chance dropped by Rudolph a couple of hours ago. If he'd caught Bravo, the Windies could have been in serious trouble.

Still not out of the woods yet though.

[Abdul Qadir 236]

yeah shows how important fielding is - as if Pakistani cricket fans needed reminding

[razzler]

yeah shows how important fielding is - as if Pakistani cricket fans needed reminding

I am sorry to say but didn't Yuvraj dropped a catch the other day? ;)+

[Amjid Javed]

ntini has knocked over 2 early wkts on day 5 and nel gets 1

w.i 190/8

sarwan unbeaten on 100+

[Khalil]

South Africa will win this game

[Amjid Javed]

12 wkts for home track bully ntini...

w.i 190/9

[Amjid Javed]

w.i 194 all out

13 wkts for ntini

s.a need 145 to win....

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

wow - i know SA like to go slow but they have 76 overs - who knows - maybe collins may run through them.

[Amjid Javed]

0 wkts in 1st test

13 wkts in 2nd test

for ntini!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

LOL, this pitch is a minefield at the minute! cracking up all over the place, uneven bounce - so hard for the batsman

[Amjid Javed]

1st ball off s.a inns with a new ball

banged in half way down the pitch and rolls along the floor

2nd ball de villiers smashes it away for 4

[Fessal]

Sa will win. I am going to watch it now as nothing else to do.

[Amjid Javed]

S.A 42/0

3 dropped catches already, a catch off a no ball, buffet bowling

w.i laying it on a plate here...

[sajjad]

SA will win this one. better side overall!

[Fessal]

Sorry post edited. I thought they won seeing cricinfo headline but I am wrong as it is refering to Pak India match. Whoops my mistake.

[Fessal]

Ok SA havent won yet but it's 45 for no wkts. DeVilliers 31 and Smith on 7 with plenty of time left.

[Rob H]

I just watch some highlights of Ntini's spell earlier. That man was on fire

[Rob H]

60/0

[Rob H]

14 to win for the saffies

[umerz]

so Lara's another ton going in losing cause

[Rob H]

Saffies win by 8 wickets

[Rob H]

Great effort by all the Saffies esp Ntini. They deserved to win the game.