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Amjid Javed
28th March 2007, 12:52
Now many PPers will have differing views on how Inzamam did a job as pakistan
skipper. As a batsmen he was the key player in the side and when in form
he would lead from the Front with bat in Hand. As a wise and experienced
player he could have been seen by all as Father figure and mentor. Am sure
you ask any pakistan player whose played under inzamam and they would have
respect for him. However, one thing apparent thru the whole Bob/Inzi reign
was inzamam always called the big shots and not to many would dare to
question his authority. It is well known that Inzamam like any captain
will have his personal favourite players who he would give extra support to.

My question thou is was the pakistan dressing room united because all players
got on etc.. or was there a factor of fear From Inzamam? basically you fall in line
with what inzamam say or you get booted out of sqaud. I realy hope we never
get a situation again where pakistan captain is given so much power interms of overall
standings of pakistani cricket. To many players where picked on non-merit reasons
and the team pretty much acted like the skipper. when in form the team looked hot, but
alot of time team look decoid of ideas and the sheer lack of inspiration pretty much portraying Inzamams
character.

I feel not many if any pakistan players at all would have spoken out against inzamam
and the way he ran the team simply because there career could have been ended.

snazir6
28th March 2007, 13:26
When the world cup squad was picked..most people agreed that the players selected where the best available..the only thing questioned was that no left handers were in the squad..the other major thing about pakistani cricket in last 4-5 years is that we have stopped giving young players a chance at an early stage.
6-10 years ago people like fawad alam, khurram manzoor,shahid yousaf, najaf shah, akhtar ayub, adnan raza would have been given a chance to prove themselves on the big stage.

Serendipity
28th March 2007, 14:11
When the world cup squad was picked..most people agreed that the players selected where the best available..the only thing questioned was that no left handers were in the squad..the other major thing about pakistani cricket in last 4-5 years is that we have stopped giving young players a chance at an early stage.
6-10 years ago people like fawad alam, khurram manzoor,shahid yousaf, najaf shah, akhtar ayub, adnan raza would have been given a chance to prove themselves on the big stage.


A wholeheartedly agree with you!

We have become a county team, without passion, no calculated risks and into a buisness.

Usman Chadda
28th March 2007, 14:29
When the world cup squad was picked..most people agreed that the players selected where the best available..the only thing questioned was that no left handers were in the squad..the other major thing about pakistani cricket in last 4-5 years is that we have stopped giving young players a chance at an early stage.
6-10 years ago people like fawad alam, khurram manzoor,shahid yousaf, najaf shah, akhtar ayub, adnan raza would have been given a chance to prove themselves on the big stage.

The reason they weren't tried was because there weren't any places available in the team. Maybe in the bowling department but the batting order, apart from the openers, was pretty much the same for all the games. Fawad isn't an opener so he wouldn't have found a place in the team before the World Cup, same with the likes of Hasan Raza, Bazid Khan, Shahid Yousufetc etc

I do believe however that the likes of Akhtar Ayub, Najaf Shah, Mohammad Irshad, Anwar Ali should have been given a chance to prove themselves. They couldn't have done any worse than Rana, Razzaq or Sami

Gunner786
28th March 2007, 14:30
simple answer,
when you speak out or dont adhere to inzi's religious demands you end up like shoaib akhtar

Raza Sohail
28th March 2007, 14:50
simple answer,
when you speak out or dont adhere to inzi's religious demands you end up like shoaib akhtar

doped up and injured? now thats a stretch! :20:

Monsee
28th March 2007, 14:55
simple answer,
when you speak out or dont adhere to inzi's religious demands you end up like shoaib akhtar



So you start taking drugs, get injured, and start putting your foot in the mouth...

Man that is terrible :21:

midwicket
28th March 2007, 15:01
So you start taking drugs, get injured, and start putting your foot in the mouth...

Man that is terrible :21:

I think in Akhtar's case he had a strong following wind!!

Gunner786
28th March 2007, 15:29
shoaib would never have taklen drugs if inzi hadnt made his lif so stressful

Saqlain_doosra
28th March 2007, 15:35
simple answer,
when you speak out or dont adhere to inzi's religious demands you end up like shoaib akhtar


It's more like when you don't play for team. You only play for cameras ans you should get boot when you play for cameras

Saqlain_doosra
28th March 2007, 15:39
shoaib would never have taklen drugs if inzi hadnt made his lif so stressful

That is so true, Inzi told him to get fit and shoaib takes the easy route. He thought he got away with it.

RumiNYC
28th March 2007, 15:54
what's up with our ex-current fast bowler's and smoking pot habit ? any idea ?

Zeenix
28th March 2007, 16:03
So you start taking drugs, get injured, and start putting your foot in the mouth...

Man that is terrible :21:

Witch Craft Probably.. There are lots of KAALA JAADU (Black Magic) experts in Multan, Inzi would be in contact with them.. JO MERI BAAT NAI MAANE GA, KHOON THOOKE GA

Monsee
28th March 2007, 16:04
shoaib would never have taklen drugs if inzi hadnt made his lif so stressful



HaHaHa...Gambino, how old are you? Serioulsy, do tell me!\


Shoaib is a 16 year old virgin who ran in to this old dipity pimp named Inzi...who biaatch slapped him and forced him in to taking drugs, drinking, womanizing, and not paying attention to his fitness :))) :))) :)))

ammarz
28th March 2007, 18:30
HaHaHa...Gambino, how old are you? Serioulsy, do tell me!\


Shoaib is a 16 year old virgin who ran in to this old dipity pimp named Inzi...who biaatch slapped him and forced him in to taking drugs, drinking, womanizing, and not paying attention to his fitness :))) :))) :)))
:))) :))) :)))
Seriously its ok to blame inzi for the teams defeat as he was the captain, but its another thing to blame him for shoaibs drugfest. :29:

Monsee
28th March 2007, 19:44
:))) :))) :)))
Seriously its ok to blame inzi for the teams defeat as he was the captain, but its another thing to blame him for shoaibs drugfest. :29:


But seriously do try to imagine the '16 saala kanwari Kaniya Miss. Shoiab Akhtari' and 'Pimip Abbaa Inzi'...that is some image!

Yes, Inzi is such a bad man

isr
28th March 2007, 19:55
My question thou is was the pakistan dressing room united because all players
got on etc.. or was there a factor of fear From Inzamam? basically you fall in line
with what inzamam say or you get booted out of sqaud. I realy hope we never
get a situation again where pakistan captain is given so much power interms of overall
standings of pakistani cricket. To many players where picked on non-merit reasons
and the team pretty much acted like the skipper. when in form the team looked hot, but
alot of time team look decoid of ideas and the sheer lack of inspiration pretty much portraying Inzamams
character.


This may be a valid observation, but it doesn't imply anything insiduous. Teams, in any sport (or non-sport), do tend to mirror the characteristics of their leader. Particularly if that leader is particularly well respected (as Inzi was within the Pakistan team).


I feel not many if any pakistan players at all would have spoken out against inzamam
and the way he ran the team simply because there career could have been ended.

This is out of line, and is very representative of the PakPassion way - namely to concoct wild theories and imply the basest of intentions, without even the merest hint of evidence - all to salve the particular bias of the poster involved.

Show me a single, DOCUMENTATED, instance of Inzi going out of his way to harm the career of another player, for PURELY PERSONAL reasons - without any cricketing reason to back him up.

I chose my words carefully. Inzi, like any leader, is perfectly entitled to form a dislike, even distrust, of another player if he believes that the player is not to be relied upon on the cricketing field. Which therefore excludes much of the Shoaib-Inzi saga from this.

Asim2Good
29th March 2007, 05:01
I don't think there were any groups in team (atleast groups were not for long time) as they used to b in previous teams. It's all media going after ONLY Inzi after our deafeat. using words of "younger player" "source within team" which is all masala reporting.

remember the incident when YK sid " I don't wanna b dummy captain" and fans and media were calling for Inzi's head and said he wanted to select team even when Inzi was not playing. but what hapened ? PCB chairman left his job and YK accepted the job without saying a single word