SOMEONE STOP THE MAN UTD INJUSTICE - PLZ

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Barcelona's Txiki Beguiristain has refused to be drawn on the latest round of transfer speculation surrounding the club.
Barca, along with Real Madrid, were linked with a move for Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy on Wednesday with defender Carles Puyol tipped to move in the opposite direction.
Rumours over rather more probable-sounding moves for Mark van Bommel and Michael Ballack have also refused to go away, but Beguiristain would give nothing away.
The Catalans' director of sport insisted the club were focusing fully on clinching the Spanish league title and had not started to resolve their summer transfer activity.
"It's normal at this time of the season that the papers publish names that could interest us, but we are not closing any transfers," he told skysports.com.
"We are concentrated on winning La Liga.
"They are simply rumours and Barcelona only speaks about realities."


BALLACK WOULD BE GREAT - BUT PUYOL TO MAN UTD - I TELL U WHAT I THINK

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HE is the life/soul of the side, the rock - he runs that defence- such a great defender - if man utd get him - IT WOULD BE A DISGRACE - i wouldnt trade puyol for van nistelerooy/rooney/ronaldo - for all 3 i still wouldnt trade puyol. I hope cruyff steps in and does something - i so hope laporta sees sense. Inshallah puyol will refuse the move as he has done in past - but bloody man utd wont give up on him

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he is that important to us - how they could even consider it is beyond me - he would be the last player i would consider selling and yes that includes ronnyd in the list - puyol is club captain - leads from the front, very brave and is a phenom at the back - with some buys in defence we will be complete

[Geordie Ahmed]

Puyol for RVN would be criminal for Barca

[Oxy]

Sell to MAlcom Glazier...then all your woes will be gone forever...suffocating under the muntain of debt he will create!

RIP ManUre!

[Jameel]

Ruud aint going anywhere. He's already said in the past that he doesn't want to join Barca. Fergie would never sell him anyway.

I wouldn't trade him for Puyol thats for sure. If we're gonna get a defender we should aim higher than Puyol.

[Jameel]

Real Madrid are ready to offer Michael Owen as bait in a bid to land Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy.

According to The Sun, sources in Spain say Real are ready to offer the former Liverpool hitman in a bid to prise Dutch ace van Nistelrooy away from Old Trafford.

The Spanish giants are confirmed long-term admirers of van Nistelrooy, who has struggled to regain top form since returning from an Achilles injury in February.

And now they are poised to test the waters again, this time with Owen offered as part of the deal.

The England ace has not been a first-team fixture at the Bernabeu this season, but has scored regularly when included and has played a big part in Real's recent title push.

Van Nistelrooy's agent Rodger Linse has reportedly quoted a fee of £12m for the striker, who joined United for around £19m from PSV in the summer of 2001

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These stories are bull. Are Real really stupid enough to think that we would trade Ruud for Owen?

LMAO

Puyol for RVN would be criminal for Barca

I agree totally

Real Madrid are ready to offer Michael Owen as bait in a bid to land Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy.

According to The Sun, sources in Spain say Real are ready to offer the former Liverpool hitman in a bid to prise Dutch ace van Nistelrooy away from Old Trafford.

The Spanish giants are confirmed long-term admirers of van Nistelrooy, who has struggled to regain top form since returning from an Achilles injury in February.

And now they are poised to test the waters again, this time with Owen offered as part of the deal.

The England ace has not been a first-team fixture at the Bernabeu this season, but has scored regularly when included and has played a big part in Real's recent title push.

Van Nistelrooy's agent Rodger Linse has reportedly quoted a fee of £12m for the striker, who joined United for around £19m from PSV in the summer of 2001

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These stories are bull. Are Real really stupid enough to think that we would trade Ruud for Owen?

LMAO

Personally I think it's United that want Owen and are ready to offer RVN instead of the other way round.

[Oxy]

These stories are bull. Are Real really stupid enough to think that we would trade Ruud for Owen?

Not really. I am sure if ManUre added a couple of million + Ruud for Owen, Real would agree.

[adi 101]

i dout ruud is going but puyol is a top top top defender!!!!! and i dont think michael owen is in the same league as ruud anymore

"and i dont think michael owen is in the same league as ruud anymore"

Owen and Ruud are a class apart

[Jameel]

Real Madrid are ready to offer Michael Owen as bait in a bid to land Manchester United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy.

According to The Sun, sources in Spain say Real are ready to offer the former Liverpool hitman in a bid to prise Dutch ace van Nistelrooy away from Old Trafford.

The Spanish giants are confirmed long-term admirers of van Nistelrooy, who has struggled to regain top form since returning from an Achilles injury in February.

And now they are poised to test the waters again, this time with Owen offered as part of the deal.

The England ace has not been a first-team fixture at the Bernabeu this season, but has scored regularly when included and has played a big part in Real's recent title push.

Van Nistelrooy's agent Rodger Linse has reportedly quoted a fee of £12m for the striker, who joined United for around £19m from PSV in the summer of 2001

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These stories are bull. Are Real really stupid enough to think that we would trade Ruud for Owen?

LMAO

Personally I think it's United that want Owen and are ready to offer RVN instead of the other way round.

Please tell me why United would want Owen when we already have enough class strikers? Owen would struggle to make the United bench.

Real have wanted Ruud for ages, but he has told them he doesn't want to join them. They can't take a hint.

[Jameel]

These stories are bull. Are Real really stupid enough to think that we would trade Ruud for Owen?

Not really. I am sure if ManUre added a couple of million + Ruud for Owen, Real would agree.

Yeah I know Real would agree to that, but United wouldn't. Owen is not fit to tie Ruud's boots. To swap them would be criminal for United.

[ImranR]

Ruud should go nowhere!!!!!!!

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jameel - i just cant believe u dont rate puyol - he is one of the best in the world - has shown that for sometime now - playing with a couple of muppets at the back like gio/beletti(defensively). I wouldnt want ruud anyway - we need more defenders

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if puyol was to join man utd - that defence would be soooo good, i hope he rejects them again, ferguson is desperate but i hope puyol stays true to his roots

[Assara K]

imo ferguson needs to build up the whole team...from scratch!

realistically in the next 2/3 years there will be no giggs, keane, silvestre, fortune, saha, smith, ferdinand, neville bros, scholes, fletcher, miller etc....we need to rebuild the team entirely!-maybe with some current players stil ie. rvn, rooney etc

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LOL - i agree, aint it funny seeing utd in turmoil - couldnt happen to a nicer/bigger club

[Assara K]

LOL - i agree, aint it funny seeing utd in turmoil - couldnt happen to a nicer/bigger club

for you maybe but for us this is just destressing! >:|

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WELL IM LOVING IT - especially as barca are now showing their true pedigree

[Abdul Qadir 236]

when will people remove the blinkers?

FERGIE LOST IT THE DAY HE SOLD JAAP STAM.

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I AGREE GARY - SELL STAM FOR £18M - of which u still havent received £10m!!!!! LOL so in effect so far £8m for stam - he was brilliant against inter - truly top class!!

[HAFRIDI]

realistically in the next 2/3 years there will be no giggs, keane, silvestre, fortune, saha, smith, ferdinand, neville bros, scholes, fletcher, miller etc....we need to rebuild the team entirely!-maybe with some current players stil ie. rvn, rooney etc

Assara, why wont there be no smith, fletcher, ferdie miller?? theyre young! i agree no giggs keane nevilles, they will be finished !

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smith - not being given a chance - may leave

fletcher - PLZ PLZ CARRY ON PLAYING HIM - LOL

miller- in one long word - hahahahahahahahahaha

ferdinand - when he is tired of underachievement he will leave

[Abdul Qadir 236]

HAFRIDI u remind me of Alan Hansen in 1995 when he said:

"You'll never win anything with kids"

lol but seriously Ferdinand and Miller i wouldnt want at Crusaders never mind ManUtd!

FERGUSON HAS TO GO
ARE U ALL BLIND?
BRING IN ALLARDYCE

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ALLARDYCE - LOL - can imagine him going up against likes of ancelotti in europe - LOL.

TOO MANY MAN UTD FANS IN 1 PLACE - AAARGH -

[Abdul Qadir 236]

yes best manager in the league along with Moyes.
look what they have done with buttons, incredible.

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moyes - i like but allardyce - LOL

[Abdul Qadir 236]

he has turned bolton into a top6 team on nothing - that is incredible. if he was foreign he would be at a so called big club.

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WERENT U THE ONE THAT WAS SAYING PPL SHOULD B TREATED equally no matter what - so in a way now ur saying his achievemnts are greater because he is english - LOL, irony overload

[Abdul Qadir 236]

i am saying that there is a greater affinity towards foreign managers in the game when there are homegrown managers who can do as good a job if not better.

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well ur implying something totally different - which u cannot deny

[Abdul Qadir 236]

i told u the point i am making!!! be happy with that.
u ever worked with alistair campbell?

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LOL _ NO - but u must be careful when trying to make a point that u dont end up making another completely different - which is what u did there. U see in a debate u lock onto the negative aspect of words said - u fell in a hole!

[Abdul Qadir 236]

sorry i think i know what i am saying.

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well i know what ur implying do u?

[Abdul Qadir 236]

i just told u what i meant by the comment and u are saying u know better.

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all im saying is that ur implying something else

[Abdul Qadir 236]

i am not - i told u what i meant.
what planet are u on? the same one as blair?

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nope - a planet that is known as truth - one which phoney blair and right wingers are as bad as one another

[Abdul Qadir 236]

everyone will agree there is a trend to plump for a foreigner for the reason that people here think our managers are not up to it. yet there are some great homegrown managers like george graham - he is tops. allardyce and curbs are also fantastic.

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IT ISNT THE SAME - if curbs was in charge at man utd or arsenal - who is to say that they would be a success - if anything they would fail to cope with it

[Abdul Qadir 236]

u can manage or u cant.

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aint that simple - LOL

[Geordie Ahmed]

Some Managers are good with a small budget, lots of money and they may well waste it

[sy]

yeah true.

One man I'd LOVE to see succeeding SAF is ....


... Gerrard Houllier

[HAFRIDI]

lol bet u would

lol

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he isnt that bad - has some good ideas - but is maybe too defensive to succeed - after all he won the treble for lpool first up - not bad - helped france go through the golden period - bring through likes of henry, trezeguet and co through clairfontaine

Maybe he should replacr Riijkard then. lol

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now hang on a minute!!! LOL, i wouldnt go that far - only a handful of guys that i would like to see repalce riijkard and probably none of them would be available!

Who are they?

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Johan cruyff
arsene wenger
RAFA!


would be my 3 ideal managers for barca - anyone 1 of them

"Johan cruyff"

Neva heard of him

The latter 2 would never leave theirclubs. They're the genuine commitment kind

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U KIDDIN AINT U HITMAN - about cruyff

Nope. Can't recall the name

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JOHAN CRUYFF - came up with the cruyff turn, dutchman, great player - coached barca an led them to europen cup - devised theory of total football

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Barcelona striker Samuel Eto'o has revealed he turned down an offer to sign for Liverpool last summer.
The Cameroonian has proved a smash hit at Barca this term following his transfer from Mallorca.
He has notched 21 goals for the Catalans and spearheaded their push for a first league title in five years.
His move to Camp Nou last summer was initially blocked by former employers Real Madrid who were loathe to see the hit-man switch to their arch rivals.
However, Eto'o has now claimed that Liverpool also made an attempt to hijack Barca's bid by tabling a lucrative offer to take him to Anfield.
The African star is adamant, though, that he could not have been swayed from the switch to Barca that his heart desired.
"Although they (Liverpool) offered me €6 million a season, there are more important things than money," he told El Mundo Deportivo.
"Happiness does not have a price. You can't buy someone's happiness.
"I know because I left a place in which I did not laugh much, where everything seemed grey (he added in reference to Real Madrid)."
The striker revealed light-heartedly that another factor in his decision had been England's unpredictable climate, concluding: "Everyone knows about the weather they have in England!"



interesting

JOHAN CRUYFF - came up with the cruyff turn, dutchman, great player - coached barca an led them to europen cup - devised theory of total football

Honestly, never heard the name before.

Heard about Eto'o. Wise move. Don't blame him

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am surprised hitman - cruyff is one of the greatest players ever!

I too am surprised.

Cryuff kick?

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cruyff turn

What is it?

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right - difficult to explain - i will try - u run at defender - u then stop - have ur back to defender - u fake to swing in a cross then back hell and cross it in 1 motion

right - difficult to explain - i will try - u run at defender - u then stop - have ur back to defender - u fake to swing in a cross then back hell and cross it in 1 motion

OK :L?

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wait - i will find a link for u

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sportacademy/hi/sa/football/skills/newsid_2071000/2071794.stm

ok

Amjad, I'm off now, I'll check this thread 2moz

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allah hafiz bhai - take care

Thanks. Saw it. Good creativity!

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he is a footballing genius!!!!

[Oxy]

Johan Cryff...who is he? I'll tell you...

He was the proud father of Jordi Cryff...until Jordi went off to ManUre...and Johan Cryff disowned him!!!

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LOL - hitman knows his footy so i was shocked he didnt know who johan cruyff was

[Oxy]

Cruyff (Johan)...when the greatest footballers of all time!

Hitman(and anyone else)...get hold of the 1974 World Cup. Sheer master class.

And THAT turn...WOW...many have tried to emulate..but could not match the genius.

Jordi Cruyff (ManUre for a bit) on the other hand goes to the top of the WORST EVER PLAYERS/BUYS in the Premiership.!

Didnt he change his name to just Jordi (not Geordie!!!) as he couldnt live with the pressure of being a 'Cryuff???'

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yes plus his middle name was johan as well

[Jameel]

jameel - i just cant believe u dont rate puyol - he is one of the best in the world - has shown that for sometime now - playing with a couple of muppets at the back like gio/beletti(defensively). I wouldnt want ruud anyway - we need more defenders

Who said I don't rate Puyol? He is a decent defender no doubt about it. But there are much better defenders out there than him. If we get him, I don't want us to spend more than 15 mill on him. Besides its not our defence that needs urgent improvement. Its the midfield.

If we do end up getting him, I would love to see the Barca defence without him. They will look like headless chickens. Your whole team will fall apart hopefully. :)) :))

Johan Cryff...who is he? I'll tell you...

He was the proud father of Jordi Cryff...until Jordi went off to ManUre...and Johan Cryff disowned him!!!

:)))

[nufc]

lol

[nufc]

hitman how did u get ur liverpool logo on without the white backround.

just put the link there and it came out like that.

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jameel - if we lose puyol - WE WILL HAVE NO DEFENCE - the guy has been immense these past two years - we need to keep him badly - him and marquez next season will be good at centreback - then we just need a left back as we are likely to get van bommel or ballack to partner xavi in midfield

[Jameel]

jameel - if we lose puyol - WE WILL HAVE NO DEFENCE - the guy has been immense these past two years - we need to keep him badly - him and marquez next season will be good at centreback - then we just need a left back as we are likely to get van bommel or ballack to partner xavi in midfield

:)) :)) :))

I hope we get him cheap then. I'd love to see your so called great team crumble thanks to United. :))) :)))

If he goes Barca are finished by the sounds of it (your words not mine). Talk about a one man team. I hope he leaves. Then I can sit back and watch them conceede 3-4 goals a match. Oh wait, haven't they been doing that already lately. :)) :))

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By finished i mean in defensive terms - he is that good - unless we replace him. One man team? oK GREAT TO HEAR THAT JAMEEL - forget about likes of ronnyd and co. HEY JAMEEL HERE IS A CONCEPT OR MAN UTD - IN FOOTBALL U DO WIN A GAME IF U OUTSCORE THE OPPOSITION - it doesnt matter if u keep a cleansheet or conced 1 and then not score more than that - SOMEONE SHOULD TELL MANURE THAT!.


Puyol is top notch only moronic manure fans cant see that - am sure tone would change if he joinedx u. ALL PUNDITS across europe can see he is in yop 3 defenders in europe - but moronic know it all manure fans think they know better - well stick with buying likes of kleberson, miller and carry on missing out on likes of robben and ronnyd!!!

We need a leftback at barca and a holding midfielder so marquez can return to centre half.


OH BTW GIVE MY REGARDS TO ZTE IN QUALIFYING ROUNDS OF CL - NEXT SEASON - lolllllll

[Amjid Javed]

By finished i mean in defensive terms - he is that good - unless we replace him. One man team? oK GREAT TO HEAR THAT JAMEEL - forget about likes of ronnyd and co. HEY JAMEEL HERE IS A CONCEPT OR MAN UTD - IN FOOTBALL U DO WIN A GAME IF U OUTSCORE THE OPPOSITION - it doesnt matter if u keep a cleansheet or conced 1 and then not score more than that - SOMEONE SHOULD TELL MANURE THAT!.


Puyol is top notch only moronic manure fans cant see that - am sure tone would change if he joinedx u. ALL PUNDITS across europe can see he is in yop 3 defenders in europe - but moronic know it all manure fans think they know better - well stick with buying likes of kleberson, miller and carry on missing out on likes of robben and ronnyd!!!

We need a leftback at barca and a holding midfielder so marquez can return to centre half.


OH BTW GIVE MY REGARDS TO ZTE IN QUALIFYING ROUNDS OF CL - NEXT SEASON - lolllllll

:))) :))) :))) :)))

[Jameel]

By finished i mean in defensive terms - he is that good - unless we replace him. One man team? oK GREAT TO HEAR THAT JAMEEL - forget about likes of ronnyd and co. HEY JAMEEL HERE IS A CONCEPT OR MAN UTD - IN FOOTBALL U DO WIN A GAME IF U OUTSCORE THE OPPOSITION - it doesnt matter if u keep a cleansheet or conced 1 and then not score more than that - SOMEONE SHOULD TELL MANURE THAT!.


Puyol is top notch only moronic manure fans cant see that - am sure tone would change if he joinedx u. ALL PUNDITS across europe can see he is in yop 3 defenders in europe - but moronic know it all manure fans think they know better - well stick with buying likes of kleberson, miller and carry on missing out on likes of robben and ronnyd!!!

We need a leftback at barca and a holding midfielder so marquez can return to centre half.


OH BTW GIVE MY REGARDS TO ZTE IN QUALIFYING ROUNDS OF CL - NEXT SEASON - lolllllll

Puyol in the top 3 defenders in Europe.

Excuse me one minute.

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

I think you missed a zero next to the 3.

I can name plenty of defenders better than him. Nesta, Stam, Cannavaro, Rio, Terry (and plenty more) are all ahead of him.

And by the way, I said Puyol was decent, what more do you want??? You make him sound like a Pele-type player.

And if he goes, your defence is finished. At the moment they concede 3-4 goals a match. If he leaves they'll concede 5-6 goals a match.

:)) :)) :))

I can't wait.

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U CAN WAIT FOR AS LONG AS U WANT

IMO

nesta
cannavaro
puyol/stam
ayala
campbell
rio
terry

5/6 - AHAHAHAHAH - keep dreaming son - enjoy hungary or whatever mupper east european team u draw - i hear it is lovely that time of the year

[Jameel]

Amjid Arsenal will be the ones giving the regards. What you getting chuffed about? You think finishing second is a massive achievement?? Man you Arrse fans have got some pretty low expectations.

If United finished second I'd still consider it a failure. Anway, if you do finish second, CONGRATS. Don't party too much Amjid.

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WELL THEY WOULD HAVE FINISHED ABOVE THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE WORLD !!!!

[Jameel]

Yes, but weren't they supposed to be the "invincibles". If they were so invincible they would have won the title at least.

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JAMEEL - i will help u out here - that term was used for the team last year - hint hint to you jameel, they went unbeaten last year in the league i.e. not losing

hope that helps

[Jameel]

Invincible is a term used when talking about long term. You cant be invincible one minute and not be the next.

Hope that helps, but judging by your IQ i doubt it will.

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well i would say with the utmost confidence that my IQ is higher.



Again i reiterate(means to confirm or make a point again/reinforcing it) that the term was used over a whole season - hardly a minute i say

[Jameel]

And I (meaning me) retaliate (meaning respond/give an answer) by saying

This Arsenal team is virtually (as in almost) identical (as in the same) to the one from the previous (as in last) season.

If the team was invincible, they can't lose their invincibility (as in ability to be invincible) just like that.

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Actually jameel - u must take external(factors outside the club in this case) factors into consideration(TO look at carefully) as chelsea have gotten a lot better and if arsenal finish second then quite simply they were the second best team in the premiership

[Jameel]

if arsenal finish second then quite simply they were the second best team in the premiership

WOW! I am impressed. It must have taken you an eternity (as in a long time) to come up with that conclusion (as in judgement)

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NOT REALLY - just spelling it out to u - so the theory that man utd are in decline has been strengthened and to dispell( refute i.e. prove u wrong/put u right) what u said earlier

[Jameel]

United in decline? :O WOW. I've never heard that one before.

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are u sure?

[Jameel]

Positive. That came as quite a shock.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

really? so ur in decline and still the biggest?

[Jameel]

Well if we are in decline and still the biggest, it says a lot about the size of United.

p.s. I never actually said we were in decline. Are you seeing what you want to see again?

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so u dont think man utd are in decline in otherwords

[Jameel]

Maybe I do, Maybe I don't.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

that is fine - Ur lack of a positive response says it all

[Jameel]

Or my lack of a negative response says it all.

You could look at like that, but as usual you are seeing what you want to see.

[Amjid Javed]

Amjid Arsenal will be the ones giving the regards. What you getting chuffed about? You think finishing second is a massive achievement?? Man you Arrse fans have got some pretty low expectations.

If United finished second I'd still consider it a failure. Anway, if you do finish second, CONGRATS. Don't party too much Amjid.

did i say Arsenal finishing 2nd was an achievement? NO. so take it easy with ur comments as ive not made any celebration type comments.

this season has been a failure. however, realisticlaly after winning league unbeaten last year arsenal cudnt really top that achievement.

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as far as united go... there NOT in decline?

so finishing 3rd for third time in 4 seasons isnt a decline after winning the league for fun for a decade?

seems u have problems admitting that united are struggling to replicate the superb high standards they set for a decade....

To me that is a decline!

[ImranR]

calm down guys

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FIRST STAGE IS DENIAL - cmmon jameel - manure fans are usually at stage two by now - called the chelsea stage - switch allegiance!

[ImranR]

Man utd are going downhill but i am still going to support them even if they are in the conference

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we will see

[Jameel]

Amjid Arsenal will be the ones giving the regards. What you getting chuffed about? You think finishing second is a massive achievement?? Man you Arrse fans have got some pretty low expectations.

If United finished second I'd still consider it a failure. Anway, if you do finish second, CONGRATS. Don't party too much Amjid.

did i say Arsenal finishing 2nd was an achievement? NO. so take it easy with ur comments as ive not made any celebration type comments.

this season has been a failure. however, realisticlaly after winning league unbeaten last year arsenal cudnt really top that achievement.

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as far as united go... there NOT in decline?

so finishing 3rd for third time in 4 seasons isnt a decline after winning the league for fun for a decade?

seems u have problems admitting that united are struggling to replicate the superb high standards they set for a decade....

To me that is a decline!

Here we go again, people putting words in my mouth. I never actually said United are not in decline. Check the posts if you don't believe me. Whether I believe that or not is a different matter. Thats not what I came in this thread to discuss.

[Amjid Javed]

chelsea have been superb this season, yes they have spent millions. but they have shown consistancy to win the league. sumat arsena;/united havent all season.

As an Arsenal fan we cud finish league with 80+ points and still finish 2nd. just shows how good chelsea have been this season. No team whose finished 2nd has ever got more than 80 points in a 38 game prem season. However to not win league is major dissapointment

[Jameel]

FIRST STAGE IS DENIAL - cmmon jameel - manure fans are usually at stage two by now - called the chelsea stage - switch allegiance!

You might change clubs like a switch but thats not me. Seems you can't get that into your head.

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i have stuck with the one club thank you very much - it is strange - like GA said - UR OWN CLUB CAPTAIN CAME OUT AND CRITICISED THE FANS

LMAO

[Amjid Javed]

roy keane always criticises when united lose...!

he neva seems to accept any partial blame.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

GREAT CAPTAIN he is but he should shoulder more responsibility

[Jameel]

i have stuck with the one club thank you very much - it is strange - like GA said - UR OWN CLUB CAPTAIN CAME OUT AND CRITICISED THE FANS

LMAO

And you make a story out of one comment? The way you generalize all United fans are pathetic. Yes there are many glory hunters, I never denied that. Its natural with the club that is winning trophies. Now many wil start supporting Chelsea. But believe it or not, there are people who have supported United before they began winning.

[ImranR]

Jameel,Man utd have an aging midfield.Roy keanes finished,Scholes is going soon,Giggs is not as effective as he was before.We are going to finish 3rd again.We are going downhill!!!!!! just admit it

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

LOL but they are in the minority and i mean real minority

[Jameel]

What do you want Keane to say?? Its all my fault, we are losing because of me.

He never shyed away from that coward Vieira (who thought he was hard picking on GARY NEVILLE) in the tunnel at highbury did he?

[Amjid Javed]

Jameel,Man utd have an aging midfield.Roy keanes finished,Scholes is going soon,Giggs is not as effective as he was before.We are going to finish 3rd again.We are going downhill!!!!!! just admit it

;)+ a true united fan

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

ATLEAST UMER CAN ADMIT IT - those 3 were key when utd were great but it is finishing and fast

[Jameel]

Like I said before Umer, we can replace Giggs and Scholes. Its Keane we'll struggle to replace.

[adi 101]

giggs should should definatly be replaced but scholes i feel has still got someat left in him

[Amjid Javed]

What do you want Keane to say?? Its all my fault, we are losing because of me.

He never shyed away from that coward Vieria (who thought he was hard picking on GARY NEVILLE) in the tunnel at highbury did he?

he was simply telling gary neville not to swear at lil kids and not to kick the ball in their faces....!

disgusting behaviour. i feel sorry for that 6 yr old everton fan.. just went to watch football and was being abused by a so called proffesional footballed... disgusting!

neville was prob thinking he was cantona

[Jameel]

Scholes should be given one more season max. Giggs needs to go ASAP. He should retire while people still remember him as a great player.

[ImranR]

How are we going to replace keane,scholes and giggs when chelsea are buying the best players and we cant compete in the transfer market with them

[Jameel]

Chelsea can't buy EVERYONE can they? Don't worry about them. They'll have their own transfer targets and we'll have ours.

[Amjid Javed]

How are we going to replace keane,scholes and giggs when chelsea are buying the best players and we cant compete in the transfer market with them

oh dont say that united are BIGGEST and RICHEST club in the world ;)+

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

chelsea have first pick



PENALTY PENALTY FOR VILLAREAL AGAINST MADRID - CMMON VILLAREAL!!!! SCORE IT - riquelme can help us win the league here

[Amjid Javed]

goal, what a top penalty

[Jameel]

What do you want Keane to say?? Its all my fault, we are losing because of me.

He never shyed away from that coward Vieria (who thought he was hard picking on GARY NEVILLE) in the tunnel at highbury did he?

he was simply telling gary neville not to swear at lil kids and not to kick the ball in their faces....!

disgusting behaviour. i feel sorry for that 6 yr old everton fan.. just went to watch football and was being abused by a so called proffesional footballed... disgusting!

neville was prob thinking he was cantona

Yeah what Neville did was wrong. But lets not forget that the Arsenal match was in Feb way before any of this.

Face it. Vieira is a coward who tries to bully midgits like Neville. When people like Keane stand up to him he backs off.

This is your great captain who leads from the front.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

JAMEEL U DONT REALISE - man utd just dont have the lure as they as they used to - clubs like chelsea, ac milan, juve, barca, real all i would say have first pick

[Amjid Javed]

What do you want Keane to say?? Its all my fault, we are losing because of me.

He never shyed away from that coward Vieria (who thought he was hard picking on GARY NEVILLE) in the tunnel at highbury did he?

he was simply telling gary neville not to swear at lil kids and not to kick the ball in their faces....!

disgusting behaviour. i feel sorry for that 6 yr old everton fan.. just went to watch football and was being abused by a so called proffesional footballed... disgusting!

neville was prob thinking he was cantona

Yeah what Neville did was wrong. But lets not forget that the Arsenal match was in Feb way before any of this.

Face it. Vieira is a coward who tries to bully midgits like Neville. When people like Keane stand up to him he backs off.

This is your great captain who leads from the front.

vieira has been rubbish this season and shud have gone 2 real mad thats a diff matter

[Jameel]

Lets see who they get in the summer then.

I don't care if they don't get big names if they can get players like Heinze. Everyone laughed at him before he even played for United but he has been our player of the season.

It's not all about attracting big names. Big names like Veron were supposed to be great for us.

Besides, I think we can still attract top players.

[Amjid Javed]

I agree with jameel here. its not about always signing big names. its about getting players who are gud enuf to do job.

[adi 101]

united need a decent keeper to start with they are most likely to get frey because he has said he will be leaving his club at the end of the season. They should also get rid of the $hity players for e.g giggs, fletcher, bellion etc etc

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

yeah but it is very hard to - as likes of miller, kleberson, djemba djemba were supposed to do jobs

[Amjid Javed]

yeah but it is very hard to - as likes of miller, kleberson, djemba djemba were supposed to do jobs

WIY, every club buys the odd rubbish player by accident

[Jameel]

united need a decent keeper to start with they are most likely to get frey because he has said he will be leaving his club at the end of the season. They should also get rid of the $hity players for e.g giggs, fletcher, bellion etc etc

They should get Carlos Kameni. I have seen this guy and he is quality.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

that is true - i am just saying buying more high profile sometimes guarantee's success - veron was a failure but others havent been

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

JAMEEL - THAT GUY IS AMAZING - very young - did u watch catalan derby which finished 0-0 - kameni was simply amazing - singlehandedly saved them on a number of occasions - i heard man utd may go for barca reject jose manuel reina

[Amjid Javed]

that is true - i am just saying buying more high profile sometimes guarantee's success - veron was a failure but others havent been

not always, look at players arsene wenger has bought that have been sucsess... most of them where unknown to footballing world when 1st bought.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

henry? was at juve
vieira? was at milan


i take exception to those two as their talents were obviously evident - that is why they were playing for these clubs - wenger moulded them though

[Jameel]

Yeah I saw that game and he was amazing. I think he's saved 3 penalties in a row recently.

United are being linked with nearly every keeper around. I doubt they would go for Reina.

[Amjid Javed]

look at players now - toure, senderos, van persie, owusu obeye etc..

all players who are young and cheap and can be moulded for years to come rather than spending loads on just 1 player.

[Jameel]

Anelka came from PSG who aint a massive club

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

kameni has saved 4 of the 6 penalties he has faced this season.


Anelka had been earmarked at clairfontaine for greatness but all credit to wenger for acting on it

[Geordie Ahmed]

FORLAN is a canny player like, he has done very well at Villareal! deserves some credit for the way he has recovered from the dissapointing time he had in the Prem

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

a lot down to riquelme who has been exceptional this year - slick rick showed his talent this year

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

MADRID DRAW LEVEL - damn

1-1
great play from zizou and ronaldo heads in a simple header

[Geordie Ahmed]

Hopefully Villareal can avoid defeat!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

WALTER SAMUEL SENT OFF - YES!!!!

[Geordie Ahmed]

Samuel has been Cr@p

[nufc]

goal salgado!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

DAMN


SALGADO SCORES

OH WELL BARCA WILL WIN IT ANYWAY

[nufc]

2-1 to real now!

[Geordie Ahmed]

I hate Salgado with a passion! the guy thinks he's IT