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29th January 2005, 20:41
Kaneria is a world class proven leg spinner who can dimiss the best batsmen in the world. Afridi isnt! People said Qadir couldnt play odis or Mushy, both who were a lot more attacking than Danish. lets see how they done:

Qadir:

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 02/11/1993)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 104 68 26 641 41* 15.26 75.50 0 0 21 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 850 54 3454 132 26.16 5-44 4 2 38.6 4.06

Mushy:

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 03/10/2003)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 144 76 34 399 34* 9.50 57.24 0 0 30 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 1257.1 51 5361 161 33.29 5-36 3 1 46.8 4.26

Saqlain:

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 07/10/2003)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 169 98 38 711 37* 11.85 49.58 0 0 40 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 1461.4 66 6275 288 21.78 5-20 11 6 30.4 4.29

Afridi:

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 28/01/2005)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 195 186 9 4246 109 23.98 104.32 3 25 70 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 1252.2 43 5765 155 37.19 5-11 1 2 48.4 4.60

Danish:

ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 17/07/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 10 5 4 4 3* 4.00 28.57 0 0 0 0

O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 90.2 9 382 9 42.44 3-31 0 0 60.2 4.22

Danish has more wkts a game and better eco rate!

29th January 2005, 21:23
bump

Geordie Ahmed
29th January 2005, 22:57
Amit why dont you look at Afridi's recent stats, say the past 15/20 games! its no point looking at his career stats because they are from a broad time period and its really recently when he has done well with the ball AND he is bowling like a specialist spinner at the moment!

29th January 2005, 23:00
so a bit of good form makes him better than Kaneria who is one of the best spinners in the world? Look, the value of a specialist spinner is there for all to see. And I looked at the other guys over their career! so i am not changing it to suit Afridi. It seems he has to be in the team at all costs.

Geordie Ahmed
29th January 2005, 23:03
Gary dont forget that Afridi is much better than Kaneria as a fielder! he concedes many runs whilst Afridi saves a lot, in TESTS you can get away with it BUT in ODI's every run is crucial!

29th January 2005, 23:04
i dont care. i want the best bowler. danish can work on fielding.

dan hudson
29th January 2005, 23:04
Different forms of cricket requires different cricketers.

Afridi is currently justifying his place with some excellent performances.

Geordie Ahmed
29th January 2005, 23:21
i dont care. i want the best bowler. danish can work on fielding.

Gary i and most ppl do care though, the ODI game is different to TESTS! you need players who can field , atleast half well, Danish unfortunately doesnt. this is another reason that Kamal doesnt play for the ODI side!

Geordie Ahmed
30th January 2005, 06:11
The "bits and pieces" aint doing too bad is he Gary?????

Geordie Ahmed
30th January 2005, 20:42
*bump*

30th January 2005, 20:44
yes GA. Like SA, they get u so far but when u need that little bit extra to win the really really big games they come up short. Woolmer's tenure as Pak coach is same as when he was with SA.

pakistani pride
30th January 2005, 20:48
sorry gary but afridi is doing a really good job with the ball ! in odi cricket !

Funny how you forget his spell in holland and in india for the jubilee game. Also in this series he has done well. not to mention the way he has batted last few games.....

30th January 2005, 20:50
funny how u forget how good qadir, mushy and saqi were, they were deadly for Pakistan! Harmison was like this in tests and u all jumped on the bandwagon but I held my ground! thats the nature of me PP.

pakistani pride
30th January 2005, 20:54
True but afridi is doing the job mate !

30th January 2005, 20:56
few games dont make me change my opinion drastically to be honest.