The 'Abdul' Razzaq - Out of Retirement' Thread! [Merged]

[ebikhan]

I watched Abdur Razzaq taking back his retirement news on Aaj TV. They also showed Abdur Razzaq talking to the news anchor. The news was aired in 5pm local time news.

This can also be confirmed from:
http://content-eap.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/317325.html

[Usman Chadda]

He is kidding himself if he thinks that he is going to get selected anytime soon

[aussie-pak]

:))) this guy is a total joke! i bet he said something along the lines as "i feel pakistan cricket team still needs me, i have seen them struggle in the ODI series against SA, i should be back in the team. pakistan still needs me"

:))) @ raazaq

but i still think he should be in the team lol

[Boi]

lol!!

this just shows how pakistan cricket is its an uncertain

[Momo]

He is needed in the middle order for the Indian tour though.

[Boi]

He is needed in the middle order for the Indian tour though.


id oubt it hell be brought in to the squad now

[Nice-N-Fresh]

He can be named in the squad as a bench-warmer :)

[MIG]

If Inzi can be allowed a special game then Razzaq can be allowed back - the rule with Pak cricket is that there are NO rules!

Expect him to be back for India series

[nitrous]

Can anyone confirm this?

[Hash]

Razzaq :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

[Easa]

Hilarious stuff by the Razzler! :)))

[harrybeg]

Lol that guy is drunk but there's gotta be link about it ?

[Plasma]

i knew this was coming!! :))) :))) :)))

[Boi]

but on the serious note i still do feel pakistan need his batting in odis

[nitrous]

confirmed:

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/317325.html

[inzidabest]

ha ha..sucked up mango must have realised he is suddenly short of cash

[hussain_0216]

He is a dope, but I still belive he has alot to offer pakistan, especially as a ODI player

[Toony™®]

razzaq will be useful as third seamer who can 'bat' and he is partnership breaker more than often.

[Hash]

Has Razzaq finally grown up?

Or did he watch the T20 world cup and the series against SA and realise that it isn't Pakistan cricket which needs him but him who needs Pakistan cricket? Missing it are you Abdur?

[Zaad]

he will be picked... for the ODI Series

gurenteed!

[Sultan Yusuf]

Good it's better for him to be forcefully retired than voluntarily....lazy g1t

[in_cutter]

Good! I hope he gets picked :11:

[pak4life]

This isnt the local grocery store where you can pick and choose when you wish to work. Wearing the green should be seen as a honour and this spoilt brat should be made an example by the pcb. Hope he isnt picked again. we have moved on and should continue in that way.

[inzibhai]

haha...little too late...team is already picked for india....he might still have a chance in ODI but no chance in test matches....

he messed it up himself....they had only dropped him for t20 and now odi...he had the contract from pcb.....and i m sure he would have been pick by IPL but he was in hurry and called it a day....and sign with ICL....

come on dude, everyone gets dropped ....even the likes of Rashid Latif/Waq/Inzi bhai got dropped at some point...

[Hash]

he will be picked... for the ODI Series

gurenteed!

definitely not for the India ODI series

[Cryin Out Loud]

I have also taken back my retirement and am ready to play for Pakistan.

The fact that I have never played international cricket, never retired and am not Pakistani is neither here nor there.

Seriously though, I always expected the guy to do much more. He had some potential.

[Ali Azam]

Has Razzaq finally grown up?

Or did he watch the T20 world cup and the series against SA and realise that it isn't Pakistan cricket which needs him but him who needs Pakistan cricket? Missing it are you Abdur?

agree,

[Ronnyy]

The Razzler is back and although quiet a few of u dont seem to like the guy im pleased hes taken back his decision 2 retire, u all are so besotted with Afridi who flatters to decive most of the time. Razzaq is a useful ODI player and ive missed those late order sixers.

[Shahid A]

his lower ending batting is very useful especially if afridi opens

[Hash]

The Razzaq story is such a tragic one for Pakistan cricket.

He could have been so good....I wish this was a more common sight....

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/66000/66087.jpg

[Luton Bad Boy]

Can Razzaq join those counselling sessions with Shoaib, as they are clearly not all there?

[Amir]

Razzaq :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

I hope he gets served with a legal notice by ICL but PCB don't protect him. We all know he will get selected soon since the selectors are like chamchas but I hope he doesn't get selected. He is not needed.

[tauseefm]

Great news :D
i think its good decision by razzaq and now he will work harder to get his place back. i hope he comes back to pakistani team cuz he can change the game single handedly.

[tauseefm]

I hope he gets served with a legal notice by ICL but PCB don't protect him. We all know he will get selected soon since the selectors are like chamchas but I hope he doesn't get selected. He is not needed.

as long as he performs nobody has anything against him. right i have a gut feeling he will come back harder.. inshallah

[Boi]

Lets see what he can do in the first class arena now !!!

[161]

surprise surprise ???

who will be the next drama queen to retire then unretire ?

[iZeeshan]

Oh man! Now the PCB will consider him!

[Mohsin]

So his little plan backfired! O well give him some credit for holding out as long as he did!
Sallahudin Sallu doesn't seem to keen on a Razzaq comeback. Salahuddin Ahmed, chief selector, said Razzaq would need to show that he was back to his bristling best. "Let him play first-class matches first and prove his form and fitness there. After that, the doors are always open for every first-class cricketer in the country," Salahuddin told Cricinfo.
I doubt we'll se him back so soon.

[Raz]

Razzaq was dropped primarily because of a lazy and negative attitude, which has contributed significantly to his loss of form. Reversing his decision he says Pakistan still needs me? What nonsense is this? That stinking attitude is still there, he has learned absolutely nothing whilst he has been away.

He needs to learn that until he start showing more commitment to his cricket generally, (bowling and fielding definately) then he should never make it back into the national team.

[PlanetPakistan]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65889.html
this is what he was capable of. 173/2 to 196 all out

but now this guy has become a laughing stock. He needs to realize that he doesn't have a divine right to be in the PAK team so if he really wants to come back then he must go back and perform in domestic cricket!

[Raz]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65889.html
this is what he was capable of. 173/2 to 196 all out

but now this guy has become a laughing stock. He needs to realize that he doesn't have a divine right to be in the PAK team so if he really wants to come back then he must go back and perform in domestic cricket!

PP, even if he performs in domestic cricket his attitude needs to change before he comes back to the team. It might be all well and good getting wickets jogging in and bowling 75mph-80mph, but at international level he will be eaten alive as he has been for the last few years.

He needs to run in with a purpose. If you look at 1999-2001 he was running in much quicker and his action was completed a lot faster. That resulted in him reaching speeds of 87mph, getting movement and destroying bowling lineups for fun. At present that seems like a world away.

[salman24]

I hope he returns to the team ASAP
We need him thats for sure!

[Mohsin]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/65889.html
this is what he was capable of. 173/2 to 196 all out

but now this guy has become a laughing stock. He needs to realize that he doesn't have a divine right to be in the PAK team so if he really wants to come back then he must go back and perform in domestic cricket!

To be fair PP this was when he was the next big thing, especially with the ball. But now after the laziness and taking his place for granted, he barely troubles tail-enders. Are you telling me that you would expect him to get even the 2/3 wickets if he were to come back?
He will need to really really show his commitment to Pakistan cricket, with the bat, ball and in the field. I would like to see him back, but thats mainly because of the batting.

[PlanetPakistan]

PP, even if he performs in domestic cricket his attitude needs to change before he comes back to the team. It might be all well and good getting wickets jogging in and bowling 75mph-80mph, but at international level he will be eaten alive as he has been for the last few years.

He needs to run in with a purpose. If you look at 1999-2001 he was running in much quicker and his action was completed a lot faster. That resulted in him reaching speeds of 87mph, getting movement and destroying bowling lineups for fun. At present that seems like a world away.
I agree- the difference is so obvious.
I remember he not only consistently bowled in the mid 80s but also had this effort ball which would invariably trouble some of the elite batsman(Sachin being the prime example).

[the_game]

We still need his lower order hitting in ODI's, but with this kind of attitude ("Pakistan still needs me"), I think he should simply not be picked again unless he performs exceptionally well in the domestic circuit.

[tradecars]

what a suprise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a good u turn though with a liitle more application he can still be the man for pakistan.
if he was in the 20/20 world cup we would have had the trophy in pakistan anyway lets look to the future

[Isolation]

The Razzaq story is such a tragic one for Pakistan cricket.

He could have been so good....I wish this was a more common sight....

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/66000/66087.jpg

Edgebaston 2006. I remember this moment. The stands started rocking

[Showman]

Good. I think he'll work harder now to regain his spot in the team. He may be picked for the Indian test series as a seamer who can bat. But not for the ODIs.

[Wazeeri]

I wouldn't mind having him back in the team if he really gets back to his old days, the guy can turn it on in ODIs.

[12thMan]

I guess no one bought it and it has been taken off the ebay.
He should take his cricket career seriously because he will need it for the leagues and county too

[harrybeg]

Since mr.Razzaq has comfirmed that he not retiring any more

which I'm not suprised :P , do you think he'll be in the squad vs India?

is it risky ? or is he deserved or worth it

I think we should TEST him out for one of them , we'll see the improvements and the problems and the fitness problems he has ...

since he's been playing for English county lol


what do you guys think ? will he be picked for the tour of India even though it's announced .

[octavian]

good for Razzi now he needs to go back to domestic cricket and show us he can bowl like he used to back in 99-2000.

i was one of the biggest fans of his but he has really let alot of people down.

[Gunner786]

well the squad is already announced for indian matches
my bet is that he'll get recalled aganst india or zimbabwe later on this year

[Wazeeri]

Is Razzaq the new Afridi?

Will we see a hundred threads of him on the front page now?

[salman24]

YEs i Hope he gets selected for India iA

[Mohsin]

Has everyone forgotten the ICL here?

[Caved12]

May be I am old school, but Razzaq still has a lot to offer to our pakistani cricket team. He can single handedly win the game for us( making this comment by looking at the potential of our new players and youngsters), which is, to me, is bleak.

[SUPERSAMI]

What the hell man! You know he'll be back and PCB will probably cover his ICL bill.

[mkexpress]

As Ian chappel said by not having razzler in the team pak hav lost 50% of their hitting power!!! I believe he still has alot to offer, you just have to look at few of his inns last year.... Afridi had a terrible 2006 but we persisted with him, and look at the results in 2007. It was stupid of him to retire, he should have taken it as a challenge and show what he can do for the team....But anyways i think sense has prevailed and the man needs to score runs in domestic and somehow get back in the green colours!

[Tay'yab-Ali Malik]

Has everyone forgotten the ICL here?
it did'nt stop inzi playing for pak

[the true passionist]

As Salu(selector) said, he will have to prove himself in the domestic competitions to earn a recall. Let him do that before asking questions about his selection.

[Boi]

He'll probably be bak by the zimbabwe series well i hope so

[ebikhan]

As Ian chappel said by not having razzler in the team pak hav lost 50% of their hitting power!!! I believe he still has alot to offer, you just have to look at few of his inns last year.... Afridi had a terrible 2006 but we persisted with him, and look at the results in 2007. It was stupid of him to retire, he should have taken it as a challenge and show what he can do for the team....But anyways i think sense has prevailed and the man needs to score runs in domestic and somehow get back in the green colours!


There was a big difference between Afridi & Razzaq attitude. Razzaq, seems not to enjoy the game while he was in field. Afridi had on other being axed on number of occassions whenever he has not performed. Afridi maybe arrogant sometimes but overall his attitude is very fine. Specially when you compare it to Abdul Razzaq. I would love to see AR performing in first-class and making a come back. That is the why great players announce their arrival. Good luck to him :19:

[ebikhan]

As Ian chappel said by not having razzler in the team pak hav lost 50% of their hitting power

Not everything Ian Chappel will say will be correct. There are also many different things to look in Abdur Razzaq case. Also, we all saw what happened to Ian Chappel prediction about India and pakistan before T20 world cup.

[Shadow_786]

Seriously what the HELL IS GOING ON ???
This only can happen in Pakistan Cricket
so know that Razzaq takes back retirement decision Whats NEXT ???
This is not the first time this has happened first we wasn't sure about Mohammed Yousuf what his gonna do Comeback to Pakistan cricket team or not & also there was the ICL thing aswell,

And a while back Afridi Announced his retirement from test cricket but then took back the retirement decision,

And lets Not forget Last year in the ICC Championship Trophy Younis khan said he wount be a Tummy Captian & steped down to captain pakistan in the ICC Championship Trophy but latter changed his decision & said he would captain Pakistan! and god knows how many other things like this have happened that I haven't mentioned!

Well one things for sure the World Must be Laughing At Us!!! Am not saying this doesn't happen in other teams maybe it does but not this Often & pakistan has a recored in doing things like this how many English players , Austrailian players or even Indian players you no go into Retirement, or Step down as Captains then change there decisions well I can tell you the list is very short compared to pakistan's players

The Only Thing For Sure About PAKISTAN Is ....... Notthings For Sure!!!

[Amir]

TO be fair, I don't think the world is laughing at us. This stuff is so common with us they are probaly just thinking this is everyday news.

[Shadow_786]

TO be fair, I don't think the world is laughing at us. This stuff is so common with us they are probaly just thinking this is everyday news.
True :D but surely some must be laughing I think Pakistan Players just like to be in the news alot :P I mean Razzaq maybe thought the Pakistan cricket Board might beg for him to comeback when that didn't happen Razzaq must have said "Damn My Plan Didn't Work" :D but no doubt his a good player sometimes :13:

[Kriketer]

Pakistani cricket has become a joke! They just can't exist without embarrassing us!

[Inswinger]

Athlete's always take back retirements.
Here in the US, Roger Clemens has "retired" from baseball every year since 2003 but decides to come back in the middle of the season every year.
Nothing wrong with changing your mind

[deviously~fading~away]

Pakistani cricket has become a joke! They just can't exist without embarrassing us!
no or little education is a reason behind this

[Inswinger]

After all the comments he made about the PCB, it will take some time before he is even considered.

[deviously~fading~away]

Athlete's always take back retirements.
Here in the US, Roger Clemens has "retired" from baseball every year since 2003 but decides to come back in the middle of the season every year.
Nothing wrong with changing your mind
The 'now i retire & now i don't' is just a small part of a larger issue. Our players & board do make us into a laughing stock by commiting idiotic actions. Maliks response to why they batted 1st in Multan was a perfect example of this "we batted 1st b/c the curator told us there will be very little or no dew later in the night", i mean come on how irresponsible do you really have to be!

[daddy]

first no world doesnt follow play or watch cricket (mostly)
second why is there inferiority complex vis a vis oz pommis or hindus? why only compare against them at every instance?
how are they "better" than pakistan?

[Lara400]

Its a bloody circus!

Certainly has dimmed my passion for Pakistan cricket over the past four or five years.

Nowadays I have given up putting so much time into watching them, test cricket abroad has become predictable and we play too many Mickey Mouse ODI's.

The only sight worth hanging around is for MoYo in Tests.

[Safar55]

And lets Not forget Last year in the ICC Championship Trophy Younis khan said he wount be a Tummy Captian & steped down to captain pakistan in the ICC Championship Trophy but latter changed his decision & said he would captain Pakistan!


I thought Inzi was our Tummy Captain....sorry , couldn't resist that.... :P :))

[Monsee]

Yeah, why take the 'Tummy Captain' honor away from Inzi and give it to YK...you Inzi hater :P

So now, if the board does not call up Razzaq, after he took his retirement away...will he reverse the decision to take the retirement away and undo the un-retirement and retire finally

:20:

[Sheikh]

What a loser.

[octavian]

Athlete's always take back retirements.
Here in the US, Roger Clemens has "retired" from baseball every year since 2003 but decides to come back in the middle of the season every year.
Nothing wrong with changing your mind

lol true dude. that roger clemens is such a moron. keeps doing it every year. But this year has sealed his fate just like Joe Torre's

[Muzy]

razzler will be back for ODI's - but for now he shouldnt play at international level

get fit and start performing, then i'd love to see him back!!!

[infamous9383]

I must admit there is part of me that misses razzaq in the odi squad. At one time he was the best batsman in the last 10 overs but has faded away lately. We don't have anybody close that matches Razzaq's late order hitting ability.

[Gunner786]

Cant the selectors call razzaq up inplace of someone like fawad alam or anyone?
the emergency sirens are ringing but noone is responding to the call

only the razzler can save us in the indian series and we canot expect skinny guys like rehman,alam,tavir to smash us 50-80 runs in the last 5 overs like razzaq can

[salman24]

Cant the selectors call razzaq up inplace of someone like fawad alam or anyone?
the emergency sirens are ringing but noone is responding to the call

only the razzler can save us in the indian series and we canot expect skinny guys like rehman,alam,tavir to smash us 50-80 runs in the last 5 overs like razzaq can

True, Razzaq is definitely needed

[sameer]

smart guy..when he saw that ICL future is bleak especially after IPL coming,saw yousuf being showered by money and indian team was about to be selected...
i am available sir...hahahaha...

[the_game]

I'm quite sure that had he been there, Razzaq would have seen us home today. The brainless presence of Afridi in the lower order will only haunt us further on the Indian tour.

[Sultan Yusuf]

I'm quite sure that had he been there, Razzaq would have seen us home today. The brainless presence of Afridi in the lower order will only haunt us further on the Indian tour.

He quite possibly would have seen us through if we needed 15 off 24 balls, but I suspect we would have been chasing 300 had he played!

[the_game]

He quite possibly would have seen us through if we needed 15 off 24 balls, but I suspect we would have been chasing 300 had he played!

:)) Let's just stick with the 15 off 24 balls situation for now Naved!

[PlanetPakistan]

He quite possibly would have seen us through if we needed 15 off 24 balls, but I suspect we would have been chasing 300 had he played!
:)) ...valid point

[Sultan Yusuf]

:)) Let's just stick with the 15 off 24 balls situation for now Naved!

In that case, get the hair straighteners out raz and pack your whites (or greens even)!!

Nah, but on a serious note, there have been (very rare) instances in the past where I've felt "If only we had razzi playing" only for him to come back in the next match to prove how crap and detrimental he is for our team!

[tradecars]

why well he's now out of retirement and should be back in the odi team. this way we can have afridi opening every match and still have the option of the razzler to do the buissnes at 7 down giving us 2 bites at the cherry.
they both cant fail every time and both bowl.

hows that !!.

incidently i was never in favour of him being booted out in the first place he just should have been better man managed in the first place and i can say quite confidently if he was in the 20/20 cup we would have won it.

[Wazeeri]

How about??


No???

[Hash]

instead of?

[tradecars]

instead of?


nazir.definantly
asif injured
just to add as asif is out we can replace him with the razzler as asif is no great wicket taker at odi level and the razzler does have a proven past.

[Wazeeri]

Yes proven to be rubbish

[Hash]

Yes proven to be rubbish

Well he wont do any worse with the bat but he will give away runs in the field and with the ball so overall Nazir probably adds more to the team

[volcyz]

we dont need him...
he can go away and eat spinach like popeye

[Pak_Pace]

Razzaq back????

how badly do you want Pakistan to lose?...or are you tired of blaming every player so now you want new players to blame...

its like the opp. is playing with 12 men and Pak is playing with 10...

[salman24]

Razzaq back in the team
All these guys against him without any facts have a baseless argument and are just haters
Just look at his Stats whether it be bowling or batting
I know his bowling is not what it used to be but its not as bad as people say, these are exagerrations
He averages about 30 , which is more than a lot of other "batsmen playing in the side"
We need him lower down the order , there is no question about it
He should be Asif's replacement as he is injured
If he was in the T 20 Wc , we would've won

[saj786]

Razzaq back in the team
All these guys against him without any facts have a baseless argument and are just haters
Just look at his Stats whether it be bowling or batting
I know his bowling is not what it used to be but its not as bad as people say, these are exagerrations
He averages about 30 , which is more than a lot of other "batsmen playing in the side"
We need him lower down the order , there is no question about it
He should be Asif's replacement as he is injured
If he was in the T 20 Wc , we would've won
no your looking at his overall career record which respectable, but over the last couple of years hes declined to mediocrity :27: :27: :27:

[salman24]

no your looking at his overall career record which respectable, but over the last couple of years hes declined to mediocrity :27: :27: :27:
He was injured for most of last year, it takes time to come back, however he still played some good innings against England and WI(the ones i recall)
:27:

[Pak_Pace]

He was injured for most of last year, it takes time to come back, however he still played some good innings against England and WI(the ones i recall)
:27:

he was talking abt last COUPLE of years, not just last year...and I totally agree with him...

and as for being against him without any facts, read what you wrote: "If he was in the T 20 Wc , we would've won"...

except for scoring that 75 against Eng and 50 or something against SL in CT, I dont remember any good innings hes played since 2005...if he did ppl would've remembered...and its not like we smash something like 100 in last 10 overs of each match, that you can say that there were good cameos by him...

so just forget abt him and move on...

[Ali Azam]

only if he's improved his bowling

[Boi]

is he playing today the the quaid e azam cup

[iafzal]

With Asif out of ODI, his chances of inclusion are there for ODIs, although he burned his bridge when he left so not sure if he will get that chance.

[KaSaNoVa_G]

Whats the news on him i know he retired or left or somthing but is there much chance of him coming back ??

Without him we seem a batsman/bowler less..

With him you get an extra batsman who we all know can hit the ball and bowl some overs !!

What you guys think do we miss him or not ?

[Lara400]

I think he can add that missing punch, I suppose I'll have no choice but to put up with the lacklustre feilding and bowing.

Go ahead you have my vote.

[Kashif]

Rameez keeps on going about too many 'one-dimensional odi batsmen' in the team and I agree with him.

With Afridi, hitting has always been hit and miss, however I was quite pleased with the way Afridi batted today....hung around for a change. We are badly missing the batting element of the explosive Razzaq for making last-minute big totals. He should be in the ODI one-day squad at least.

[KaSaNoVa_G]

Ok he aint a bowler that can run in and take 4/17 of 6 overs.. but even if he bowled the 6 didnt go for more then 5 and picked up a wicket thts more then good.. or even if he didnt pick up a wicket but kept the RR down its still good... his batting can make up for it ...

its not like we have been given a all rounder to replace him.. i would much perfer to see Razzaq walk in to bat once the 6th wicket goes down then say someone like Rehman

If Razzaq was to replace Rehmann we would have 5 batsman 3 all rounders and 3 bowlers..
What ever the case im sure with Razzaq our team looks much better ! now once the 6th wicket is gone the tail has started ..

[KaSaNoVa_G]

Rameez keeps on going about too many 'one-dimensional odi batsmen' in the team and I agree with him.

With Afridi, hitting has always been hit and miss, however I was quite pleased with the way Afridi batted today....hung around for a change. We are badly missing the batting element of the explosive Razzaq for making last-minute big totals. He should be in the ODI one-day squad at least.


True say... when our batting aint doing that good it dont help when the team knows they have to bat "extra good" because they are a batsman or all rounder less in the starting 11 ...

[salman24]

Finally people are seeing the light
Razzaq is needed
There is no doubt about it

[Mohsin]

Finally people are seeing the light
Razzaq is needed
There is no doubt about it

Amen brother!! :19: :19:
We DESPERATELY need that batsman who can add those extra 70/80 runs in the slog overs just like that, and make a difference to the total!! Today I could see him being promoted up the order and adding late valuable runs, and even causing a few problems with the ball!

[infamous9383]

without A Razzaq, there's no thunder at bottom of the order. All the others seems to care about their averages more than anything. Would love to see the old A Razzaq back who was most dangerous batsman in the world in the last 10 overs.

[Boi]

WE desperately need him as we ve got no other big hitter other than afridi and he is so unpredictable so he should comebak and he also scored a fifty aswell in the quaid e azam cup and his bowling is quite economical aswell

[P4K1 #1]

if Razzaq was to ever return to Pakistan cricket this would be the team i would have

Butt
Afridi/Akmal
Malik
Yousuf
Younis
Misbah
Afridi/Akmal
Razzaq
Akhtar
Gul
Asif/Sami/Rao/Tanvir