Tyson vs Ali

[Mercenary]

Ali relied on his long reach, lightning reflexes and deceptive power to beat his opponents whereas Tyson relied on brute strength and all out attack. Both were exciting to watch in their own way but who would win a fight between the two when they were both at their best?

I know most of us here have a soft spot for Ali but think about the question carefully before you vote.

Tyson tended to excel against taller opponents whilst the 6' 3" Ali found it hard to comprehensively beat the shorter Joe Frazier in any of their fights together. Ali's main strength was to use his speed to expose the oppopnents defence and use that split second to send in a blistering uppercut to knock the guy flat on his back. Tyson being much shorter than Ali wouldnt be as easy to uppercut and Ali would have to rely on wearing him down rather than finishing him off earlier on.

Tyson on the other hand has enough power to make Ali's rope-a-dope style tactics work against him. Ali could normally take a lot of punishment but how would he cope against a rampaging Tyson at his peak whose every punch is a potential knockout blow? There's punishment and then there's demolition.

Tyson was a one man wrecking crew and i think if Ali went for the rope-a-dope tactic, Tyson would win the match but if Ali managed to make Tyson burn himself out by extending the match past the 7th/8th round and then land one of his magic blows then Ali would win.

The key to the match would be space, if Ali managed to maintain some distance between himself and Tyson in the early rounds then he could tire him out. Also Ali's long reach wouldnt be of much use if Tyson got too close, thats when Tysons shorter arms and power packed blows would come into play!

So who do you think would win?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

muhammad ali all the way - tyson was ruthless in his prime but Ali could adapt - he faced foreman in his prime who was a wrecking machine at that time and ali employed his"dope on the rope" technique where he stood there like a dope and withstood punishment and then a flurry at end gave him a KO. Now tyson punches very very hard but so did foreman who was huge at the time and had immense power.

Mike in his prime would always use good lateral movement but Ali can adapt to an opponent - mike was a little bit more mechanical - ali would toy with him.

Merc i disagree with u about ali would get KO'D if he used dope on rope startegy as he did it with foreman who was about 21 and ali was 32 i think at the time so past his prime!!!!! yet he still could withstand the punishment and tyson has never thought anyone with such good footwork

Also Ali did like to fight at a distance but he was vastly underrated for the work he did on the inside - he was brilliant there too.

No soft spot but ali would toy with tyson in his prime - barring ali - mike tyson would hold his own against any other fighter in history

[nufc]

ali anyday but tyson is sick. Both of them are good my 2 favourite boxers

[HAFRIDI]

tyson!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

tyson wouldnt stand a chance - ali was great - the best heavyweight ever - tyson wouldnt stand a chance - ali would take him in 5

[nadeem]

Merc, when Ali fought Frazier he was nowhere near his peak. If we r discussing a hypothetical scenario at their peaks then lets just dwell on that. TYson had lightning reflexes too. He was never a sitting target at his peak. THe side to side head movement from waist up was equal in effect to Ali's lightning speed of foot. Most of their assets would cancel each other out except two. Ali had a tougher jaw and had a more dominating will. Except Ali to scar him with a humiliating defeat. Normally when bullies are put in their place they go into hiding : read Foreman. Tyson would never get close enough to try his lethal combos. Patterson was trained by same trainer as Tyson's i.e., Cus D'amato and on both occasions Patterson was emasculated infront of a world audience.

[HAFRIDI]

hardly saw ali fight..just seen a few clips here and there, u guys know better...

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

well put nadeem! - i couldnt agree more

[Mercenary]

I agree that Ali would beat Tyson but i think it would be a much closer match than you guys are making out. When Ali fought Frazier he wasnt at his peak but I feel he would still have struggled against Frazier even if he was. We have to remember that he fought Frazier 3 times but never won by a knockout.

Frazier ended Ali's undefeated record in their first fight, the second fight went the distance and Ali won it marginally. In the third fight Ali took some punishment before he got one of his magic second winds and brutalised Frazier. Frazier troubled Ali mainly because he was a close-in fighter and whilst Ali could hold his own close in he would still come off worse against a shorter fighter in close-in situations. When he could keep a fighter at a distance he could use his long reach, swing and leverage to do some real damage whilst Frazier could only take wild swings at him which fell short due to his more diminutive stature and more importantly wasted huge amounts of Fraziers energy with no result.

Foreman was a brutal fighter but mentally Ali had got to him before he even stepped in the ring. Whether Foreman was prepared to admit it or not he was in awe of Ali and Ali used that by allowing himself to take a beating and then coming right back in Foreman's face. Foreman became frutsrated and began to think Ali was unbeatable so when Ali got his second wind again he finished Foreman both mentally and physically.

I believe the difference between Tyson and Foreman when it comes to rope-a-dope lies in the height factor. Ali could afford to lie back as Foreman was of a similar height and Ali could fend him off without Foreman getting close enough to do any real damage. Tyson at 5' 10" is shorter than even Frazier and more powerful than Foreman. Whilst ALi could absorb the blows of Foreman, i think Tyson's blows would be more telling and the fact that Tyson could get in closer would mean that the referee would step in more often and Ali wouldnt be able to keep Tyson swinging away for as long as Foreman did to tire him out.

Overall i agree with you guys that Ali would find some way to outsmart Tyson and that despite Tyson's brute strength he is mentally both unstable and weak. Ali would have beaten him mentally long before either of them stepped into the ring. Ali would have made him look like a bumbling fool and made Tyson's rage overtake his skill and technique. Ali would have beaten Tyson comprehensively but at the same time an even more enraged Tyson would have been one combination away from knocking Ali to the canvas!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

tyson more powerful than foreman then?? i would contest that strongly as foreman was an animal and had immense strength.

U talk about Ali having won a huge mental battle againt foreman- i mean tyson - one doubt about him was his mental toughness - Ali would find any weakness and focus on that - he would have tyson aimlessly swinging. Ali did win alot of his fights through his mental toughness - tyson has never fought someone like Ali

[Mercenary]

U talk about Ali having won a huge mental battle againt foreman- i mean tyson - one doubt about him was his mental toughness - Ali would find any weakness and focus on that - he would have tyson aimlessly swinging. Ali did win alot of his fights through his mental toughness - tyson has never fought someone like Ali

isnt that what i said...

Overall i agree with you guys that Ali would find some way to outsmart Tyson and that despite Tyson's brute strength he is mentally both unstable and weak. Ali would have beaten him mentally long before either of them stepped into the ring. Ali would have made him look like a bumbling fool and made Tyson's rage overtake his skill and technique

...or were u agreeing with me?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

i was agreeing with you

[Mercenary]

it makes sense now :)

[Fessal]

Ali>>> Kill Him!

[Mercenary]

Ali bomayai

[Rob H]

No contest Ali would win easy. He is more cunning and his agility is superb.

[Schiller]

the good old q

who would have won??

[HAFRIDI]

man is that a question or what?!

i didnt see much of Ali, but from what i have seen he was very quick at his peak, and tyson at his peak was very strong, lot of power, and quick. It would have been a close contest no doubt. I reckon Tyson would have just edged it, some would argue but thats from what i have seen personally, i dont think ali was as powerful as tyson in his prime.

[zushy_786]

Muhammad Ali no doubt...

[Schiller]

give detailed reasons guys, i havent seen a lot of tyson

[HAFRIDI]

Mike tyson, ferocious monster, once known for saying " i want to eat his heart- i want to eat his children" in an interview after a fight referring to the opponent goes down as a legend in the boxing world. He may not have been the tallest around but he sure had that one punch that can send the opponent onto the canvas in a split second. Remarkable fighter, will always be remembered for his quick combos and devastating knockdowns, one of few like him to embrace the boxing world. The youngest heavyweight champion at the age of 20. Says it all really.

A short video, of tyson as an amateur.....http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3OCQYYZL4LIMR2WHU374GPE0RQ

[zushy_786]

give detailed reasons guys, i havent seen a lot of tyson

Pound for pound, Muhammad Ali was the toughest, most confident fighter, and Mike Tyson would look like a chump against him......Ali was more consistent, and has defended his title more than one occasion and held on to his championship more times in boxing history apart from Foreman.......Same can't be said for Tyson who fell on his face when he got famous.....

[HAFRIDI]

Pound for pound, Muhammad Ali was the toughest, most confident fighter, and Mike Tyson would look like a chump against him......Ali was more consistent, and has defended his title more than one occasion and held on to his championship more times in boxing history apart from Foreman.......Same can't be said for Tyson who fell on his face when he got famous.....

he may have fell on his face, but that doesnt mean he was not devastating at his prime.

Mike tyson in his prime V mo Ali in his prime

i think its a lot closer than u think, calling mike tyson a "chump", u just need to watch him at his prime and u will see how he could finish a game before the opponent knew it, taking nothing away from Ali superb boxer, aint seen much of him though, but certainly tyson is not that far away than Ali. however, Ali was the better of the boxer if u want to rate the whole of his career V tysons whole career, Tyson just lost it later on, but u cant take the fact that he was lethal in his younger days.

[HAFRIDI]

A reminder of how much of an "in your face" boxer, tyson was.

http://s58.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2G92JJECOBF2I0S3T7B8HCHI3U

[Raz]

Thanks for the videos Haroon bhai. He sure was a beast. Id probably agree with you and say Tyson as well but only just.

[nufc]

as much as i like tyson u cant compare him 2 ali

[Oxy]

Mohammad Ali no doubt for me!

Ali happened to fight in the greatest era of the heavyweight division. He tamed the likes of Patterson; Ellis; Frazier; Norton and Foreman.

Foreman was a beast-he murdered Frazier...he physically LIFTED Frazier off his feet - and Ali fought 3 epic/brusing 15 round battles v Frazier .

Ali out-fought and out-thought Foreman in the 1974 'Rumble in the Jungle' using his 'rope-a-dope' tactics....and I would contest that the closest any fighter came to a 'Tyson' is George Foreman.

Put it this way, Foreman didnt fight for 2 years after the beating he got from Ali, such was his depression

Ali would absorb anything Tyson could throw at him and tire him out.

I am a huge Ali fan-even more so since he retired - I have all his fights on video; posters; artwork; collection cards; an autographed glove...I simply think he is the greatest modern day human on earth.

Tyson was a great fighter, but has a nasty streak to him that I find unpalletable.

As for my earliest EVER sporting memory....sitting wth my dad to watch Ali fight Leon Spinks (poss 1976)...he lost; I cried...and my support for the great man began.

ALI to beat Tyson by Knock Down in the 9th round.

[z10]

if anyone here has seen Mike tyson wipe the floor with Frank Bruno they will agee with me that it is closer than most think

[Oxy]

if anyone here has seen Mike tyson wipe the floor with Frank Bruno they will agee with me that it is closer than most think


With all due respect, Frank Bruno wasnt fit enough to LICK Ali's boots, let alone tie them!

Tyson murdered Bruno...twice...but Bruno could (and should) have knocked him down-just couldnt follow up!

Arguably the best fighter in the Tyson era was Michael Spinks...who Tyson humiliated in about 90 seconds!!!

[DM]

Hmm, good question. My initial thoght was 'Tyson no doubt', but with more consideration, it certainly isn't as clear cut.

Ali was an exceptionally talented, mentally astute, uniquely quick heavyweight and against all odds, he beat his own beast of the time - George Foreman in the 'Rumble in the Jungle'. Only after having watched a documentary on it did i realise what a remarkable achievement it was by Ali. If any of you haven't seen George Foreman, you should watch some of his matches at his prime when he would literally knock people off their feet or even just watch him punch a punch bag (you can witness this chilling spectacle in the documentary 'When We Were Kings') - Mike Tyson was ferocious and an animal yes, but George Foreman was a violent, savage monster with absolutely murderous force in his punches - he was a behemoth of the boxing ring, razing to the ground anyone who dared invoke his interest and it was expected he would simply vaporise Ali. Genuine concern was even voiced about Ali's potential well-being.

But what transpired was as astonishing as it was unexpected, Ali wasn't vaporised, Ali's tactics beautifully vaporised Foreman, rendering him into the bumbling, stumbling cyclops that Odysseus begat after impaling his eye.


I'm going for Ali in the 10th!

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[KaSaNoVa_G]

Ali for sure...

[Stefano]

In my personal ranking, Ali is the all-time #2 (as far as Heavyweights are concerned). The only boxer who I consider superior to him is Joe Louis.

I would have problem to put Tyson among the 10 best heavyweight fighters of all times! Tyson had that great punch: of course, he could have knockouted everyone. But, Ali belonged to another planet.

These are other boxers whom I consider much better than Tyson:

Joe Louis, Ali, Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano... I think that Lennox Lewis at his prime would have defeated Mike Tyson at his prime. Tyson always had problems against tall boxers with a great jab.

For this reason, I think that Larry Holmes would have defeated Tyson if he had been at his prime. That match in 1988 doesn't count for much: Tyson was at his best, while Holmes was a 38-year-old boxer who came out of retirement after 2 years.

[khanpuria]

I think that Lennox Lewis at his prime would have defeated Mike Tyson at his prime. .

areed with everything u said apart from this

[Stefano]

As I said before. Tyson had problems with tall boxers with a great jab. Lennox Lewis was tall and had that good jab, with which he would have kept Tyson away from him.

Of course, Tyson had that tremendous punch. And Lewis sometimes lost his concentration. His defeat against McCall was due to this fact: Lewis lost attention and was hit by McCall, a boxer who was 100 times inferior to him.

In my opinion Lewis paid the price of not being a star. He was quiet! Nobody cared about his life! It would have been a great fight (Tyson vs Lewis): however, I would give Lewis the edge! And there was another boxer who could have created problems to Tyson: Riddick Bowe.

[HAFRIDI]

oxy i like ur views, i havent seem him much, its better not to compare them i think, they were in a league of their own.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Just quickly cos im at Uni!

Tyson is a beast with amazing power BUT Ali is the ultimate boxer, he had speed and stamina, also he had the ability to take big punches (as was evident against George Foreman)

Ali had a brain and thats something Tyson lacked and i think for that reason Ali would have outboxed him - in a street fight Tyson would have battered Ali BUT we are discussing in the ring!

[Oxy]

oxy i like ur views, i havent seem him much, its better not to compare them i think, they were in a league of their own.

And so you should HY!

Boxers are almost impossible to compare through the era's...but there's no harm in trying!

Having watched Ali between 1976-1981 (the saddest period), and then hwatching a promotional video on a fighter called Mike Tyson in 1985-86, I thought 'this guy is just an animal'....and I was Tyson fan from then on in.

He was well managed when under the wings of Clayton/Jacobs...all went pair shaped when he got married to that ***** Roben Givens (and her mum Ruth Roper).

An unknown alcoholic aka James 'Buster' Douglas shattered the aura and invincibility of Tyson in Japan....and the guy has just fallen as a boxer and an individual since.

As Geordie says...Ali would defeat Tyson in the ring (not in the street though!)

[HAFRIDI]

yes i agree maybe because ali had a good boxing brain and tyson didnt. i just think most people dont see how good tyson was, they always on about the neg stuff about him, he was class

[adi 101]

muhamed ali

[Oxy]

Take out the negative stuff on Tyson, and for me he is the most ferocious boxing speciment that ever fought!

[Stefano]

Tyson was a really great boxer. No doubt about that. However, there have been boxers better than him. Not just Muhammed Ali.

[Master-P]

i cant believe there is even question of whos better i dont think tyson would of even beaten george foreman let alone ali.

[Saj]

Ali would be too quick around the ring for him. He'd let Tyson burn himself out and then just pick him off in the later rounds with his reach advantage and handspeed.

[Geordie Ahmed]

i cant believe there is even question of whos better i dont think tyson would of even beaten george foreman let alone ali.

I reckon Tyson v Foreman would have been a very interesting fight

[Oxy]

I reckon Tyson v Foreman would have been a very interesting fight

I've thought about that one for many a year! About 10 years ago, it nearly happpened.

Foreman was on his 'bible-bashing' comeback trail (and he won the World Title at 47 or something ridduculus)...but Tyson was in jail, and it never happened.

It wouldnt have been pretty as Tyson would have beat Foreman the Grandad up.....BUT IN THEIR PRIME.....I would have gone for a TYSON win.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

A V TOUGH QUESTION! i would still have to say mohammad Ali. A young tyson had great lateral movement and ferocious force but Ali did use the dope on a rope theory against George foreman who had as much strength as a young mike tyson. Foreman had so much strength that he absolutely destroyed joe frazier! - knocked him down 7 times i think it was and frazier is one of the all time greats!

Ali in his prime had wonderful movement and would be able to counteract tyson's power - and we all know mohammad ali had a great chin.

IMO ali would have beaten him by KO in round 7

[Oxy]

I was waiting for WIYs views on this one!

Its a shame that the great boxers of the 70s were not spread out through the era's so that we could have had some great battles.

[Geordie Ahmed]

I've thought about that one for many a year! About 10 years ago, it nearly happpened.

Foreman was on his 'bible-bashing' comeback trail (and he won the World Title at 47 or something ridduculus)...but Tyson was in jail, and it never happened.

It wouldnt have been pretty as Tyson would have beat Foreman the Grandad up.....BUT IN THEIR PRIME.....I would have gone for a TYSON win.

same here BUT thats probably cos i didnt see that much of Foreman!

[Amjid Javed]

Ali would have won!

even now ali would beat tyson!

[Master-P]

A big advantage 4 ali would of been his height it would of given him a better reach as he was tall, theres no way ali would lose 2 tyson and even ali struggled against foreman even though he won rumble in the jungle i still think ali would of not beatern foreman for the simple fact ali only won becuase of his stamina and his brains otherwise he would of lost as foreman had the killer punch, tyson has nowhere near the stamina and brains of ali 2 even beat foreman.

[Geordie Ahmed]

A big advantage 4 ali would of been his height it would of given him a better reach as he was tall, theres no way ali would lose 2 tyson and even ali struggled against foreman even though he won rumble in the jungle i still think ali would of not beatern foreman for the simple fact ali only won becuase of his stamina and his brains otherwise he would of lost as foreman had the killer punch, tyson has nowhere near the stamina and brains of ali 2 even beat foreman.


do you know how ridiculous that comment is? seriously read it again and look at what you wrote

[Schiller]

do you know how ridiculous that comment is? seriously read it again and look at what you wrote

but then how would we know master-p wrote it??

[Geordie Ahmed]

but then how would we know master-p wrote it??

huh?? you've lost me now

[Master-P]

There's noting wrong wid it, iv just got som1 esle 2 read it they dont see nething wrong either maybe u jus a lil confused newayz back 2 boxing i recken joe fraser or suger ray robinson would of been a better fight with tyson. George Foreman and Ali are 2 much 4 somone like tyson.

[Schiller]

There's noting wrong wid it, iv just got som1 esle 2 read it they dont see nething wrong either maybe u jus a lil confused newayz back 2 boxing i recken joe fraser or suger ray robinson would of been a better fight with tyson. George Foreman and Ali are 2 much 4 somone like tyson.


english pussycat english!! write English

[Schiller]

I havent seen a lot of tyson and my memories of Ali spring from an early age, so the following might not be most accurate.

I think it would have been a close call. tyson was brutal from what i have seen and read, one of my bosses described him as a knockout machine. on the other hand, foreman was, as oxy said, close to what tyson was like and yet Ali knocked him.
what makes me think twice is the 'thrilla in the manila'
frazier almost had him, as did Ali but if tyson could do the same but with his more capable hands, he might have knocked out Ali
for reasons such as spirit and intelligence, id say Ali would win

[Master-P]

Im a pussycat that dont write in english yh? fine ur a BOKAT, dats a jamaican word, i dare u 2 ask a jamaican person 'someone called me a bokat wot does dat mean?" im sure he will agree with me :))) :)))

[Schiller]

Im a pussycat that dont write in english yh? fine ur a BOKAT, dats a jamaican word, i dare u 2 ask a jamaican person 'someone called me a bokat wot does dat mean?" im sure he will agree with me :))) :)))


aww muffin, resorting to jamaican? ;)

[zushy_786]

Im a pussycat that dont write in english yh? fine ur a BOKAT, dats a jamaican word, i dare u 2 ask a jamaican person 'someone called me a bokat wot does dat mean?" im sure he will agree with me :))) :)))

Easy there black wannabe :24:

[Amir]

Why must we pit these two muslim brothers against one another and why not just share the love? :P

But for me ALi any day. There was no fighter that could match ALi on his days, great as Tyson was...still no contest.

[entralinks]

I don't know much about both, but from what I know Tyson used to get heated and mad very quickly and Muhammed Ali being clever as he was would definitely have used that to his advantage. Not sure about in boxing but probably hosh would have prevailed over josh.

[entralinks]

That one vote for Tyson seems like Tyson himself. I didn't notice, when did he join?

[Geordie Ahmed]

There's noting wrong wid it, iv just got som1 esle 2 read it they dont see nething wrong either maybe u jus a lil confused newayz back 2 boxing i recken joe fraser or suger ray robinson would of been a better fight with tyson. George Foreman and Ali are 2 much 4 somone like tyson.

a visit to specsavers is needed i think :D

You said that Ali would have lost if he didnt have stamina or the brains! i mean that logic or lack of it rather can be applied to anything and it would be ridiculous! il give you a few examples

- Thierry Henry wouldnt be the best striker in the world if he didnt have that blistering pace

- Dennis Bergkamp would have been a nothing player if he didnt posses that magnificent touch

- Jonah Lomu would have been a average rugby player if he didnt have the strength and pace

- Dennis Bergkamp would have been a nothing player if he didnt posses that magnificent touch

- Wasim Akram would have not got the wickets he did if he didnt have a brain

- Waqar wudnt have been a devastating bowler if he bowled at 75mph

etc etc

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

Ali would have won!

even now ali would beat tyson!


that is v harsh on tyson! - tyson could still be a force if he actually had that desire to train hard, instead to me he seems to have drifted off and lost that desire - his killer instinct which made him a feared fighter. He used to have won fights even before he entered the ring ala ALI - just through great mental strength.

Tyson could still hack it over 4 rounds - but he cannot stand upto 12 rounds anymore - which is sad

[Master-P]

aww muffin, resorting to jamaican? ;)

Aww muffin dont you understand what i just said.

[Master-P]

Easy there black wannabe :24:

Erm sunny jim london is a lil diffrent 2ur beloved canada majority of **** whites, blacks and wot eva other people there are would know wot that means so 4 being a black wannabe ermm naaaa

[Master-P]

a visit to specsavers is needed i think :D

You said that Ali would have lost if he didnt have stamina or the brains! i mean that logic or lack of it rather can be applied to anything and it would be ridiculous! il give you a few examples

I said he would of lost against George Foreman in rumble in the jungle if it wernt 4 his brains and stamina, becuase as a fighter strength wise Foreman would of destroyed Ali, Ali won that match because of his brain not his actual boxing. If u watched the fight you would of seen that George eventually got tired thats where ali counter attacked him and stole the win. It wasnt a blow for blow fight or some easy knockout thats what made ali look so great.

Neways wot im trying to say is that Tyson isnt even on Foremans level as there wasnt that much between foreman and ali if anything on another day foreman could of killed ali.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

I said he would of lost against George Foreman in rumble in the jungle if it wernt 4 his brains and stamina, becuase as a fighter strength wise Foreman would of destroyed Ali, Ali won that match because of his brain not his actual boxing. If u watched the fight you would of seen that George eventually got tired thats where ali counter attacked him and stole the win. It wasnt a blow for blow fight or some easy knockout thats what made ali look so great.

Neways wot im trying to say is that Tyson isnt even on Foremans level as there wasnt that much between foreman and ali if anything on another day foreman could of killed ali.


tyson was definitely on foremans level or even higher - would foreman had been able to challenge ali like that if it wasnt for his strength/punching power?

[Oxy]

A big advantage 4 ali would of been his height it would of given him a better reach as he was tall, theres no way ali would lose 2 tyson and even ali struggled against foreman even though he won rumble in the jungle i still think ali would of not beatern foreman for the simple fact ali only won becuase of his stamina and his brains otherwise he would of lost as foreman had the killer punch, tyson has nowhere near the stamina and brains of ali 2 even beat foreman.

:13: I have read this a dozen times, and it still makes NO sense to me!

That's like saying Imran Khan only took 350+ wkts because he had 2 arms ; or that Pele would only scored 1000+ goals because he was lucky to have feet; or that Micheal Jordon was lucky because he could breath!!!!!!!!

Boxers typically have no brains...Ali out-thought and out-fought his opponents.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

I said he would of lost against George Foreman in rumble in the jungle if it wernt 4 his brains and stamina, becuase as a fighter strength wise Foreman would of destroyed Ali, Ali won that match because of his brain not his actual boxing. If u watched the fight you would of seen that George eventually got tired thats where ali counter attacked him and stole the win. It wasnt a blow for blow fight or some easy knockout thats what made ali look so great.

Neways wot im trying to say is that Tyson isnt even on Foremans level as there wasnt that much between foreman and ali if anything on another day foreman could of killed ali.


tyson was definitely on foremans level or even higher - would foreman had been able to challenge ali like that if it wasnt for his strength/punching power?

[Oxy]

tyson was definitely on foremans level or even higher - would foreman had been able to challenge ali like that if it wasnt for his strength/punching power?

Master-P says:

init da foreman was had the puncing power like that ali not have but strenght yes foreman have but ali lucky because have brain init? so there

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

:))) and i actually understood that - i must be losing my mind!

[nafajafam]

Master-P says:

init da foreman was had the puncing power like that ali not have but strenght yes foreman have but ali lucky because have brain init? so there

:))) :))) Its like i have learnt a new language

[Hussain]

no one can match the grace and class of ALi

[Master-P]

Master-P says:

init da foreman was had the puncing power like that ali not have but strenght yes foreman have but ali lucky because have brain init? so there

Are u dishabled in da deek?

[Oxy]

Are u dishabled in da deek?

das ryt like init

[Master-P]

das ryt like init

:)) :))

[HAFRIDI]

threads been hijacked by master p's new language , innit? :)))

[Master-P]

It seems like manz chat is more big on ere den mo ali im da greatest alie?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

It seems like manz chat is more big on ere den mo ali im da greatest alie?

ok now u lost me - its just sounds weird now :D

[HAFRIDI]

It seems like manz chat is more big on ere den mo ali im da greatest alie?

how old are u if u dont mind me asking? i thought ur over 16ish( the age where most of this black talk normally digests)

[Master-P]

how old are u if u dont mind me asking? i thought ur over 16ish( the age where most of this black talk normally digests)

:))) :))) :))) :)))

This man is a badman :24:

[HAFRIDI]

:))) :))) :))) :)))

This man is a badman :24:

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