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PlanetPakistan
13th March 2008, 01:31
WEST Indies will fight any attempts to reduce their team to a 'second-tier' Test nation when the executive board of the International Cricket Council (ICC) meets in Dubai next week.

The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) are also worried about the impact of the Indian Premier League (IPL) on the game in their region, with matches in the new Twenty20 tournament, which starts next month, set to take place while Sri Lanka and Australia are touring the Caribbean.

Meanwhile, the WICB said the ICC had been "insulting'' in the way it had responded to its concerns regarding the treatment of leading West Indian umpire Steve Bucknor, who was removed from his scheduled appointment in the third Test of the recent series between Australia and India following Indian complaints about his performance in the second match of the series.

One plan being mooted to increase the competitiveness of Test cricket would see the top seven nations cut off from the bottom three with promotion and relegation between the two groups.

Under the current rankings, that would see West Indies, who've declined dramatically since the likes of Viv Richards, Michael Holding, Malcolm Marshall and Curtly Ambrose helped make them Test cricket's leading team from the mid-1970s to the start of the 1990s, with just Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to play in the five-day format.

"The WICB will never allow this to happen,'' WICB president Julian Hunte insisted in a statement from its Antigua offices.

"In most of the cricket playing countries of the world, we are the team they like most after their national team.

"However, we have to use this as motivation to get back to the top of world cricket. Our players must be mindful of this when they go out to play since if our standing in world cricket does not improve we might find our options and opportunities severely limited.''

Hunte voiced fears about the consequences of the IPL.

"We are deeply concerned about the future impact of leagues like the IPL on our cricket particularly when their seasons are in direct competition with our tours or our domestic season.

"We and New Zealand will be the big losers. Already it is clear that three of our players (Chris Gayle, Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan) will have to choose between representing teams in the IPL or representing their region.

"Given the amount of money at stake, it already seems to be a foregone conclusion. We also have the ICL (the rebel Indian Cricket League) and again the dilemma faced by our players.''

When Bucknor, Test cricket's most experienced umpire, was replaced in Australia in January, Hunte warned a dangerous predecent had been set.

Many observers accused the ICC of giving in to India, because it is cricket's economic powerhouse - a charge the world governing body denied.

Hunte, who contrasted the ICC's reaction with the way it had batted away West Indian complaints about umpiring on their 2005 tour of Australia, was unhappy with the response he'd had from Dubai regarding the 'Bucknor' affair.

"I said at the time that the ICC was setting a dangerous precedent but that before we took a decision on the matter we needed to know more. So far, I have not received the information I sought and I consider this an insult to the WICB which is a full-member of the ICC.''

The ICC executive board meeting is due to take place from March 16-18.

Agence France-Presse

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,23366987-23212,00.html

PlanetPakistan
13th March 2008, 01:34
It will be a better idea to have NZ(7th seed) join WI, BAN and ZIM in the 2nd tier.

Megadeth
13th March 2008, 01:47
Woah!..promotion and relegation each year???!!...wat are we doing??!..diggin our own grave? Ind and Pak might find ousrsevles in WI shoes as we're not the most consistent teams in int'l cricket....

jackal786
13th March 2008, 02:00
They don't deserve tier 2. They only recently beat South Africa. But Bangladesh definitely should be relegated.

muthoo
13th March 2008, 02:17
It will be a better idea to have NZ(7th seed) join WI, BAN and ZIM in the 2nd tier.NZ just beat England, and WI beat SA in SA.

sohaib17
13th March 2008, 04:07
pak deserve to be in 2nd tier don't they

Indiafan
13th March 2008, 04:12
Its not going to be a fair deal for WI. Imagine if India is sent to tier 2. imagine what a stink we will raise. BCCI will never agree to it and no one can force india. So why WI?

Matic
13th March 2008, 04:14
Promotion and relegations? Sounds like the English Premiership! It won't help Test cricket imo, WI just need a shake up on their performance coaching.

WI have it in them to match teams in Test cricket, I don't think they need to be boxed out with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

observer1
13th March 2008, 04:29
Worst idea ever.. Not like there are 30 countries...

PlanetPakistan
13th March 2008, 04:41
NZ just beat England, and WI beat SA in SA.Yeah they won 1 test but overall both NZ and WI have played poor cricket

squarecut
13th March 2008, 05:38
First 8 teams are competitive ( even though some of them have been seeing bad days).

But Bangladesh and Zimbabwe ? Frankly, they should be made to play in a first class tournament like Ranji Trophy ( plate group) or English county ( second division). One season may open the eyes of the ICC that these teams cannot even compete against first class teams,and here we are talking of these teams competing against test teams.

161
13th March 2008, 05:38
ATM .. asif, shoaib and moyo are the only 3 people keeping us from becoming a second tier team.

jackal786
13th March 2008, 05:46
ATM .. asif, shoaib and moyo are the only 3 people keeping us from becoming a second tier team.


Younis Khan will take exception to that comment.. :P . Sure Pakistan goes through rough transition But they are definitely nowhere close to tier 2. Even windies. But i am all for stripping test status of Bangladesh who really makes a mockery of Test cricket with repeated failures.

the true passionist
13th March 2008, 06:34
I have been a proponent of a two tier test setup to increase the competitive nature of test cricket.

But the relegation/promotion cannot take place more frequently than a 2 year period because a team that play 5-6 tests in a year can see itself relegated if it has only been touring abroad or has only played the number 1 and 2 teams.

I don't agree with only one of the top 8 teams joining BANG and ZIM either. To make the process fair and more competitive in both tiers we should have two teams joining BANG and ZIM.

But again to make this process work out, ZIM has to become a better test playing nation. At the current rate they would lose to a small town team in Pakistan.

muthoo
13th March 2008, 07:04
Yeah they won 1 test but overall both NZ and WI have played poor cricketNot so poor that they deserve to be classed together with Ban and Zim.

If there are 4 additional countries of similar standard to WI/NZ then it may make sense to have a tier 2.

Megadeth
13th March 2008, 07:07
If WI is pushed to tier-2..they'll nvr recover...as youngsters there are already hooked on basketball and soccer.. cricket there now is like what soccer is in india/pak