Pak V WI Test 1 - Day 3 discussion thread [28/5/05]

[MIG]

WI 164/4 - Total Lead = 364 !

Ok I know we all fear the worst but could Day 3 be when Pak turn the match on its head ? ( dont bet on it but worth a thought !)

Anyway, place your updates/thougts on todays play in this thread.... Good Luck Pakistan....

[tahaqureshi]

I personally think we can and we will (Inshallah) turn this match on its head..

Just watch....

[tahaqureshi]

But I still maintain that we can win this test match. I doubt we can draw it, the game has progressed to quickly for a draw, there will only be an definitve result..

If we restrict them to 450 or less, then our batsmen should have enough time to chase. And as waheed mentioned, the track seem sto get better and better for batting, so no reason why we should crumble again. These collapses happen, but not ALWAYS, the same way MIRCALES dont happen always. Inshallah the second innings will be played much more resonsibly..

[Hash]

If we can restrict their lead to 450 odd.....

we will need a classic Afridi innings

Plus probably two centuries. Who is 'capable' of scoring a century?

Butt
Hameed
Younis Khan
Kamran Akmal
Asim Kamal

We will need two of these to click (most likely to be Butt and Khan saab)

Then we will need three or four the rest (Bazid, Razzaq, Rana, plus the other three from above) to chip in with 50s.

It is a long shot.........highly improbable. But the pitch is not showing any signs of crumbling, the windies have no spinners, their bowling traditionally gets knackered out in the 2nd innings, there is plenty of time and I would hope our batsman would have at least learnt something from the first innings.

As I said, highly improbable. But I just have a gut feeling. Something deep down tells me we are going to win this match.

[Faisal Akhtar]

Keep it simple and not lose wickets.

- Afridi should be sent lower down. 30 - 50 quickfire runs would be good.

- Salman Butt needs to stay at the wicket and score big. Needs to start converting his 20's - 30's into 100's.

- Yasir Hameed...... needs to get rid of his fishing rod. A solid 60 - 80 is required from this man.

- Younis Khan needs to show more responsibilty in his batting, needs to learn from his mistakes - get rid of the pull shot. Needs a big partnership with someone, atleast a 100 required from him.

- Bazid Khan, show us what ur made of. A 50 from him would be useful.

- Asim Kamal, if theres anyone who can save this match then its this man. Show the rest how its done Asim. Needs to get his maiden test century.

- Abdul Razzaq, unlucky in the 1st innings. Was undone by Shep rather than good bowling. Needs atleast a 50.

- Kamran Akmal, a 30 odd would be usefull. Anything more would be a bonus.

Salman > 100
Yasir > 70
Younis > 100
Bazid > 50
Asim > 100
Razzaq > 50
Afridi > 40
Kamran > 30

If they all score well, then were looking at a score of 540 :D

[adi 101]

hmmmmmmmm to be honest i dout we will win or draw but if we had inzamam, yousuf and malik in the team then i would have said we stand a chance. Although westindies are in the habit of losing so maybe they will make more mistakes and hopefully we will win!!!!!

[karachiite]

I think we are looking at a target round about 450. We should be in to bat by tea time at the latest. That leaves us with half of the test match to get the runs.

There is a lot of reverse swing around and how edwards performs in the second innings would hold the key to how the windies perform. He seemed to pick up a niggle in the first innings. Lets hope he does a shoaib and sits out the send innings.

[adi 101]

we need the experience of inzy and yoyo in this situation a quick fire of 30 from afridi wont do everyone will need to contribute big time

[MIG]

I think Afridi should do what he almost did in Bangalore - go in and score those quick runs which sets panic in the WI camp ... hold him back and he wont be that successful.

[karachiite]

We cant exactly hold afridi back. I think best thing would be to open with him. Windies will attack early so most fielders would be close in and he might get away with a few miscues. Dont expect anything from him. Anything he does should be a bonus.

Post afridi, all our batsmen should be looking to bat 2 sessions each and if 3 of them can do that then we WILL win the game.

[adi 101]

no one in the world can hold afridi back but he should bat with some inteligence

[Hussain]

i have said it before on PP
tht Afridi Rana Kaneria and Shabbir
are all capable of getting quick wickets so if they get WI out for under 200 (as their batting minus Lara and Chanderpaul is fragile )
then we can expect our team to chase 400

considering tht Younis, Asim , Afridi are all in gud form
and if supported by Hameed, Butt ,Razzak and Kamran
we do get a formidable bating line up

[arsal_pakfan]

its good to read the optimistic post here!

but persoanlly i dont feel we will cross even 175-200 mark chasing the Westindies total in the 2nd total

[Hussain]

WI still have a weaker bowling line up on paper
and i personally feel tht wht happened yesterday was just a one time phenomenon ( or we choked under the favourite tag)

and i dont expect it to happen again so Pakistan can even now give WI a real scare

[DM]

We should give Afridi and Kaneria prolonged spells this morning if we're planning to take the new ball as soon as it's available (30ish overs)

[Hussain]

is nt the ew ball due after 80 overs ?

[tahaqureshi]

I think they got the new ball when the windies second innings started...

And they played 46 overs yesterday..so add 30ish today and you get 80

[z10]

lol...its gr8 2 c optimism here....but....i wud jus like 2 say dat butt, afridi and hameed r 1 day batsman....they dont have the temperament to last two whole sessions

bazid is new so more than likely will not stand the pressure and that leaves only two recognised batsman of whom a lot was expected in the first innings but neither y.khan or asim delivered.

after them we have the two heroes from mohali....but surely lightning can;t strike twice

and remember 400+ scores have only been chased twice successsfully b4

optimism is gud...but perhaps we need a reality check

altho i hope im proven wrong :)

[MIG]

I think we should bowl Afridi now and then give him the new ball as well ( to bowl bouncers)

[The_Cricket_Devil]

i donno why but i feel its a plan that if we can get windies out before the end of today with them having a lead of 500 at best then we will have ample time to just defend and get our eyes in and easily get the runs its a plan i tell ya guys its a plan by woolmer chacha :P

[Hussain]

we need to get the WI out for 200 podd runs to keep ourselves in a fighting chance in the game

[zzzzzz]

Possible but highly unlikely

[deviously~fading~away]

Afridi needs to bowl to the tail!!! This was a big mistake YK made in the 1st inning. He can wrap them up with his faster one. Remember how he bowled kumble in his 1st over 2nd ball in Banglore when the whole team was unable to get him out!

In batting i am sure afridi will open. I think we need another magical knock like his 141 against India to win this. Afridi should know that he is a senior in the team and needs to perform weather he bats at 1 or 8 position! He gave us the breakthrough by his bowling but now he has to perform in the 2nd inning.

[DM]

Afridi needs to bowl to the tail!!! This was a big mistake YK made in the 1st inning. He can wrap them up with his faster one. Remember how he bowled kumble in his 1st over 2nd ball in Banglore when the whole team was unable to get him out!
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Agreed 100%

[DM]

I think we should bowl Afridi now and then give him the new ball as well ( to bowl bouncers)I love it! >:) :D

[Amir]

Hah, Afridi bowls at 80, so does Razzaq, maybe Akmal should stand up to the stumps for Razzler and Back to Afridi :P

Moroever, I can bet there will not be much discussion today seeing how bad Pak is doing. Oh well, we just have to get Chanderpaul early.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

plz keep all score updates here :D

[z10]

we jus have to get one of these two then we can wrap up the tail for within 40-50 runs

[MecnunK]

what's currently happening? why has'nt it started yet?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

just about to start - pitch report at minute


pak have never totalled above 350 when batting in 4th innings

highest 341-9 pak vs windies in 1988

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

rana has started - first bowl outside off

[tahaqureshi]

shouldn't we have used the spinners first?

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

there is some swing early in morning

had swing early on first day

had swing early on second day(fidel edwards)

it seems little overcast - and rana is getting a little movement

[z10]

here we go...three balls, no runs gud so far

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

at end of first over of day 168-4 - lead by 369


commentators say it is humid/muggy

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

shabbir on fom joel garner end

[Amir]

Manjy claims warmest day in the test match, so looks like rain will not help us here.

[tahaqureshi]

commentators say it is humid/muggy

That means our bowlers should get a lot of swing..

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

chanderpaul drives for 4 - a half volley from shabbir

[Amir]

Some good away movement fromt he left hand batsmen, but does not look that threatening.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

shabbir now coming round the wicket

[tahaqureshi]

they never learn!!!!

[Amir]

Four runs for Chanderpaul, looks like they are in a positive mode.

[Amir]

I feel coming around is a defensive tatic to stop runs, we are not going to get Chanderpauls wicket this way.

[w4s1m786]

4 by chanderpaul

[tahaqureshi]

So far from what I know, both the bowlers have bowled a very wide of off stump line...

not good

[z10]

perhaps dey don't wqant to get the batsman out

it makes sense...if windies bat all today....and it rains 2moro...we only ahve to survive fifth day

:))

[pakmandanish]

hmm...
so real no chance for rain!?
of not it will be close..

[tahaqureshi]

Rana trying different things to bowl to lefty

[tahaqureshi]

Rana bowling well 2 hinds....

2 maidens today for him...out of 2 overs

[z10]

like i sed....if u frustrate them they get out...and in the mean time u waste time....

[pak_all_the_way]

shabbir bowling offline

dont know wot the plan is

[pak_all_the_way]

crowd more interesting than cricket

[Amir]

Yeah, very defensive bowling...

[pak_all_the_way]

no ball by rana

[pak_all_the_way]

rana bowling well, very full looking for swing

[pak_all_the_way]

cut by shiv for 4

[Amir]

Looks like Pakistan is trying to slow things down and hold the runs back, so it takes Windies time to get runs and then giving pak less time to bat, but still, pak will bat 2 days no matter what which is difficult.

[z10]

wat r the conditions like...im not watching the match 2day.....

[pak_all_the_way]

dont look like anything in the pitch

no ball by shabbir

[Shayan]

wouldn't it be awesome if Afridi won us this match with a crazy innings.

[tahaqureshi]

wouldn't it be awesome if Afridi won us this match with a crazy innings.


It certainly would.....

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

that is the dream shayan - but afridi would have to provide a herculean effort

[pak_all_the_way]

186-4

[tahaqureshi]

poor fielding costs 2 runs!!!!!!

this is unacceptable

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

afridi loosening up!!!!!!!


and is on to bowl


THE AFRIDI IS ON

[pak_all_the_way]

windies lead by 367

afrdi on

[Shayan]

AFRIDI BOWLING!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

afridi is on, first ball was a no ball but he followed through and was 2 feet away from batsman and glared at him!!!

[tahaqureshi]

2 noballs already!!!!!!!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

loud shout - close to underedge - NOT OUT and rightly so - close

[Shayan]

big appeal.. not given by Shep.. didn't look out on replay, good decision for once.

[Shayan]

excellent first over by Afridi.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

afridi beats hinds a couple of times]


THE AFRIDI IS OTHE ONLY ONE OUT THERE SHOWING FIGHT!

[tahaqureshi]

tosses up, outside off, goes for the drive, misses it, huge shout for catch behind, looks like a faint inside edge through to keeper, karman takes a it after 3rd attempt, appeal declines

[DM]

OOOOH, CLOSE BY AFRIDI!

[pak_all_the_way]

afridi fired up

reminds me of bagalore
come on you pathan!

[Shayan]

50 for Chanderpaul.. another good solid innings by the captain.

[tahaqureshi]

excellent first over by Afridi.


2 no balls........NOT excellent

[DM]

Great bowling by Shahid

[Shayan]

excellent first over by Afridi.


2 no balls........NOT excellent

You know what i mean. ;)+

[pak_all_the_way]

i dont want to be to harsh

but shabbir looks harmless

[DM]

lol, the keeper's calling Afridi 'lala' in this test, which is what Noddy calls him :))2


And it was a good over - beat the bat several times

[pak_all_the_way]

big appeal turned down by hair

very close!!

maybe height saved him

[Shayan]

big appeal from Shabbir.. umpire thought it pitched outside leg.

[pak_all_the_way]

fat sheppard signing camera

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

full toss by afridi - goes for 3

and hinds back on strike!!

[Amir]

Lead appraoching 400 and slowly Pakistani hope, you can see the head and shoulders dropping.

[Nauman]

lol, the keeper's calling Afridi 'lala' in this test, which is what Noddy calls him :))2


And it was a good over - beat the bat several times

Lala means brother.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

full toss by afridi - goes for 3

and hinds back on strike!!

afridi beats him first ball!!!!


hinds is struggling to afridi

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

he beats him again but another no ball!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

the offspinner last ball - OOO - slid off bat and dropped short of keeper - not a chance

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

we need chanderpaul out

[Amir]

Afridi trying too hard and putting alot into his run up. He is bowling too many no-balls.

[DM]

Afridi again beating the bat - looking dangerous. Ramiz has just said that Afridi's looking more potent than Kaneria

[z10]

we jus need one ned to open up...chanderpaul cant do nething without partners

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

blame shep - he was in afridis way when he was measuring his run up - even slater said so!

[Amir]

Todays special: more overthrows!

[Shayan]

Rameez saying that Pakistan have let themselves down in many departments in this match.

[z10]

[QUOTE="Waqarfrom which side? :)) :)) :))

[DM]

lol, the keeper's calling Afridi 'lala' in this test, which is what Noddy calls him :))2


And it was a good over - beat the bat several times

Lala means brother.
:))2 all along i was thinking it was a reference to his loopiness

[Amir]

In every department, the extras haev been atrocious and today our fielding is just absolute torrid.

[DM]

I want to see Kaneria with Afridi operating

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

200-4


windies 401 ahead

[Amir]

lol, the keeper's calling Afridi 'lala' in this test, which is what Noddy calls him :))2


And it was a good over - beat the bat several times

Lala means brother.
:))2 all along i was thinking it was a reference to his loopiness

Lala is Afridi's nick name, everybody calls him that. There is this one guy at my club who idolize's Afridi so we call him Lala

[Shayan]

400 lead now

[pak_all_the_way]

shiv playing risk free

[Amir]

He has the lisence too with a 400 run lead, I still cannot believe Pakistan screwed this up, this was our chance to win a test series.

[pak_all_the_way]

over bowled

lead by 402

[pak_all_the_way]

razzy on

[z10]

wheres kaneria?

[pak_all_the_way]

masking the ball lookin for reverse
swing with 1st delivery
promising

[Shayan]

I still have faith in our team, I think we can hold out for a draw when we bat, especially since Windies don't have a proper spinner.

[tahaqureshi]

but they have Fido

[Amir]

For 2 days long? HEck even Australia could not do that.

[z10]

too much time 4 draw...we can only win or lose

[DM]

but they have Fido
if i was manager, i'd have played Akhtar, Sami, Irshad, Yasir Ali. 4 90mph bowlers. Eat that Edwards. You fast and destructive bowler you

[Shayan]

i still think we'll do it [-(

[tahaqureshi]

if i was manager, i'd have played Akhtar, Sami, Irshad, Yasir Ali. 4 90mph bowlers. Eat that Edwards. You fast and destructive bowler you

:)) :)) :)) You really DO hate it when the oppostion bowlers out pace us dont u??

:))) :))) :)))

[pak_all_the_way]

comparison chart come up
sami vs shoaib

[tahaqureshi]

do you guys think drying up the runs will induce a wicket...or will the west indian batsmen not be fazed by that?

[DM]

lol taha, it's my 2nd worst feeling in cricket (behind Afridi getting dismissed)!

[tahaqureshi]

razzler bowling excellent?

thats what it seems like from cricinfo commentary

[DM]

do you guys think drying up the runs will induce a wicket...or will the west indian batsmen not be fazed by that?
it seems unimaginable that Chanderpaul is going to be fazed - he gives the impression that he'd happily bat at a snail's pace for weeks

[DM]

interestingly Ramiz has just mentioned that we should have played faster bowlers!

[DM]

Great fielding by Afridi

[tahaqureshi]

WE DONT HAVE ANY AVAILABLE!!!!!

IRSHAD WOULD HAVE SPRAYED IT ALL AROUND, HE SUCKED IN THE 'A' TOUR

[tahaqureshi]

their runs are drying up...

lets pray for a wicket here...

[nadeem]

DM bro what i dont understand is if u're a revert how come u jus refer to PAK as "US" or "OUR TEAM" but not so with Bangla. AS muslims we are all brothers.

P.S. Edwards is indeed very very fast. His fastest so far is 94.2 mph but surprisingly powells fastest was 94.7 mph.

[DM]

but apparently irshad and yasir ali are 90+mph

if that was true i'd play them immediately! - the accuracy can come later

eg when edwards started he bowled the odd magic delivery that shattered the english batsmen's stumps

same with Zahid, same with Hayward, Ngam, Akhtar initially, same with Lee when he started (remember his 5-haul Vs India -sprayed the ball, taking wickets from full tosses etc)


When the raw fast bowler then masters the accuracy the results are devastating eg Akhtar, Waqar.

[pak_all_the_way]

razzaq doing well

[tahaqureshi]

full ball, just outside off and nips back a lot, left alone, ball just misses the off stump on the way to keeper

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why the unluckiness????

[tahaqureshi]

61.3 Abdul Razzaq to Hinds, no run, going away and its really clever bowling by Razzaq while installing two slips and two gully


Atleast someone is passionate out there...

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

DM - yasir ali is very quick - i remember gary's friend - a certain taimur khan said he was unplayable when he faced him earlier this season - he was too fast for him and he commented that ali was 90+. Now taimur khan isnt a bad batsman by any stretch of the imagination but ali got him in both innings

[tahaqureshi]

3 maidens in a row!

[DM]

DM bro what i dont understand is if u're a revert how come u jus refer to PAK as "US" or "OUR TEAM" but not so with Bangla. AS muslims we are all brothers.

P.S. Edwards is indeed very very fast. His fastest so far is 94.2 mph but surprisingly powells fastest was 94.7 mph.Yep that Powll delivery was a bit strange - might have been an error because he didn't bowl near that for his other deliveries (from what i saw only)

Edwards has also bowled at least 96.2mph Vs South Africa last month. As for not calling Bangla "we" but only Pakistan, i think it's just that i consider myself a diehard Pakistan cricket team supporter and have followed them for years now so i feel a strong attachment to them. But in a non-cricketing sense i use 'we' with any muslim.

[DM]

DM - yasir ali is very quick - i remember gary's friend - a certain taimur khan said he was unplayable when he faced him earlier this season - he was too fast for him and he commented that ali was 90+. Now taimur khan isnt a bad batsman by any stretch of the imagination but ali got him in both innings
I love that piece of news! Taimur Khan is a very competent batsman - used to captain Pak A too and for him to say he was 'too fast' is amazing.

COME ON SELECTORS!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

nadeem if u have followed a team so closely u will stick by that team!!! good on you DM!

[tahaqureshi]

kaneria bowling a ***** line

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

it is true DM - i was shocked when i was listening to that convo - here is taimur khan, ex a team skipper and peshwar player who is still a good all rounder saying that a bowler was unplayable! ali wiped the floor with his side i think in dept cricket. taimur has faced a lot of fast bowlers in his time and to say someone was too good was good to hear

[pak_all_the_way]

c and b missed by danish

[Shayan]

the bowlers do seem to be working hard... just need the fielders to make sure they back them up and take any opportunities that come their way.

[Shayan]

NOOO!! Easy catch dropped.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

danish missed a sitter - i just saw reply and it was so simple!

[tahaqureshi]

WAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!

dropped!!!!!!!!!!! fool!!!

[pakmandanish]

danish needs punches

[pak_all_the_way]

eash chance for danish missed

[pak_all_the_way]

gone thru slips on the bounce

things happening now

[tahaqureshi]

they are trying to up the runrate..

first he tried to charge down the wicket and given second chance, now the other plays and misses...

[Usman]

This match is reminding me of the first match in India, we were given a severe pounding, catches dropped, misfields, irrational shots. Seems Pakistan, like the windies progress a bit and then takes a huge step back.

[tahaqureshi]

kaneria hasn't displayed much skills as yet...

being hit for runs easily..

[Usman]

Kaneria getting turn

[Usman]

shout declined, seems things are speeding up now!

[tahaqureshi]

it doesn't matter that things speed up....

it will all be declined !!!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

that was a close lbw shout but benefit of doubt to the batsman and rightly so


razzaq is bowling well, reversed it nicely

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

chanderpaul slog sweeps kaneria for a huge 6"!!!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

went out of the ground!

[pak_all_the_way]

i think its fair to say









GAME OVER!

[Usman]

I say time for the Afridi!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

smacks kaneria for a four next ball


they are picking it up now

[deviously~fading~away]

Windies attacking now, looks like they want to declare soon

[Usman]

don't froget whenever the a batsmen gets into the slog mode there is always a chance of getting him out

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

we need some wickets now, restriction is also key

[Usman]

No matter what everyone says about Inzi's captaincy, I have to say he almost always makes the right bowling changes. I critisism for Younis is that he has really, really underused Afridi who plays more as a bowler than a batter.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

100 partnership is up - kaneria getting smacked now

hinds charged him for 4

he wouldnt do that to afridi

[pak_all_the_way]

kaneria disappointing in this match!

we needed him to deliver

another from a long hop and followed by a no ball

[Usman]

Arrrrrrrrr! when Kaneria is getting hit around and Razaq is bowling well, younis gets razaq out of the attack and keeps Kaneria in so he gets hit even more. Arrrrrrrrrr!

[tahaqureshi]

so can we say KANERIA SUCKS??????????

[Uzi]

Well I wouldn't say he sucks, he is having a bad game.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

he is having a poor game

another 4 from hinds

[Usman]

AFRIDI HAS TAKEN MORE WICKETS THAN ANY OTHER BOWLER WE HAVE, AND THAT TO THE BIGGEST WICKETS WINDIES HAVE AND HAS BEEN THE BOWLED THE LEAST OVERS, WHY??????????

[Usman]

Whats Younis doing, letting them make as many as they want so he can make sure we loose???

[Usman]

Finally he listens to me!!!

[tahaqureshi]

are you watching the game live Usman?????

[tahaqureshi]

when will they declare????????????????????????

[PapaBear]

Rameez is saying Pakistan has the same type of medium pacers with not striking ability. He is right. None of them is threatening to do anything, just going through the motions.

WI have 6 left hand batsmen and leg spinners are ineffective against them.

But remember, bowlers need runs to play with and we have none.

This game is over!!!!!!!!

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

danish gets hinds - clean bowled - through the gate

[PapaBear]

W Hinds bowled by Kaneria!

[Usman]

Finally he listens to me!!!

Not anymore, was earlier at a friends house, just following it on cricinfo now.

[tahaqureshi]

little too late....

[Usman]

are you watching the game live Usman?????

sorry quoted the wrong one!

[Usman]

Hinds gone as luch is called, Windies will probably declare once they reach 500-550

[MIG]

Everyone Ok ? Cmon people - one double hundred and we could be on our way to a historic win - also dont count on WI bowling well in both innings...

[Amir]

that is a bit too optmisitc, lets face it, we lost this test and will be laughing stock for a while.

[Hussain]

well WI have nt gotten 20 wickets in a test for the past 3 yrs now

does this make any one feel lighter

[tahaqureshi]

Everyone Ok ? Cmon people - one double hundred and we could be on our way to a historic win - also dont count on WI bowling well in both innings...

thats the main reason iv been optimistic all along...

[Hussain]

perhaps we might be in for a Younis Khan special for tonite

[Amir]

Everyone Ok ? Cmon people - one double hundred and we could be on our way to a historic win - also dont count on WI bowling well in both innings...

thats the main reason iv been optimistic all along...

Yep double hundreds are very eeasy to get, any batsmen or tailender can achieve them

[tahaqureshi]

perhaps we might be in for a Younis Khan special for tonite

agree, last time he scored a double century when almost everyone in pak cricket was calling for his head after an abysmal performance in the first test...

Inshallah the same trait will follow here...

[deviously~fading~away]

Will we see a afridi 141 again after so many years??? He did help us win the match in India with his 141!

Did u guys see afridi's last over before luch. he was talking to hinds a lot. + he threw another bouncer to hinds!!!

[DM]

true Shez, and importantly, he was bowling threateningly

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

A BEAUTY OF A LEG SPINNER FROM AFRIDI TO BROWNE FIRST UP - beat bat - leg spinner - wow!

[tahaqureshi]

I think they have come back thinking they have a chance......

good to see

[Hussain]

this wht i think


Kamal will get his first 100

Younis will get another 200
'
Razzak , Akmal, Butt , Afridi ,Bazid & Yasir wid 50 each

Rana wid a 30
Shabbir and Kaneria with 10 each

total scoring potential of Pakistan = 650

Total lead of Wi = 472

hence WI need = 650 - 472 = 178 more runs to win


:D

[Hussain]

this wht i think


Kamal will get his first 100

Younis will get another 200
'
Razzak , Akmal, Butt , Afridi ,Bazid & Yasir wid 50 each

Rana wid a 30
Shabbir and Kaneria with 10 each

total scoring potential of Pakistan = 650

Total lead of Wi = 472

hence WI need = 650 - 472 = 178 more runs to win


:D

[Fessal]

Realistically Pak have no chance to save the game and should make about 250 in second innings.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

AFRIDI GETS BROWNE - NICKED TO AKMAL


NICE LEG SPINNER

[tahaqureshi]

OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jameel]

To little too late.

[Hussain]

WI need 178 more to win wid 4 wkts in hand now


we are the favourites

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

A LOUD LBW SHOUT AGAINST POWELL - last ball

shep says no - picthed on - LITTLE INSIDE EDGE SAVED HIM!

[Usman]

this wht i think


Kamal will get his first 100

Younis will get another 200
'
Razzak , Akmal, Butt , Afridi ,Bazid & Yasir wid 50 each

Rana wid a 30
Shabbir and Kaneria with 10 each

total scoring potential of Pakistan = 650

Total lead of Wi = 472

hence WI need = 650 - 472 = 178 more runs to win


:D

It's nice to dream.

[tahaqureshi]

78.5 Shahid Afridi to Powell, no run, pushed to gully region Slips, silly mid-on and silly mid-off fielders have sorrunded Powell


LOL !!!!! :))) :)))

[Usman]

4 for chanderpaul, on 99 now

[Usman]

theres his hundread

[Uzi]

Well it's Chanderpaul's maiden hundred against Pak.

Congratz Turtlepaul.

[Shayan]

i maintain my belief that we will not lose this game......

[tahaqureshi]

theres his hundread

WHERE?? :))) :))) :)))

[Usman]

6!!!

[Usman]

another 5 runs and we will probably see the declaration, man its the first time i've seen the windies dominate like this.

[tahaqureshi]

Well there's a first time for everything..

And I dont think they will declare so soon...they probably will wait to get all out, because they will still have more than enough time to get pak all out.

[Shayan]

we seriously need a better pace attack fo the next test match.. bringing back Shoaib would not be a bad idea, even if he's not at his quickest. He gives us a psychological edge over the opposition batsmen. Lara will definitely be wary of another bouncer. I think the management has to make this bold move for the next test, and our batting should automatically look better with Inzi in the middle order.

[Usman]

unbelivable how one man makes the difference, for the windies its undoutably Lara, when he performs so does the rest of the team and for Pakistan its Inzi. Any of these men absent and the team will crumble as we saw with the windies in the odi's and now with the Pakistanis in the test matches

[MecnunK]

and the torture continues!!

[Shayan]

commentators think Kaneria is over-appealing

[tahaqureshi]

How will we ever replace Inzi??????????

[Big Daddy]

u all think the pitch has eased its demons out ?

[tahaqureshi]

meaning it maybe good for us????

Afridi needs to get his first double century today...and that too in quick time....

[tahaqureshi]

score not being updated on cricinfo....

have they declared??????

[Usman]

How will we ever replace Inzi??????????

You see thats what I admire about Australia, yes they have greats but on the whole they win as a team, in the absence of a major player someone else will step up and make the major players absence feel almost unnoticed. That is why they won't struggle in the future. I feel once Inzi and Yoyo retire Pakistan will seriouly need to rebuild and I haven't seen anyone of their class as of yet in Pakistan.

[Shayan]

lead is 500 but no declaration.. Shabbir isn't looking threatening at all.

[Shayan]

we seriously need a better pace attack fo the next test match.. bringing back Shoaib would not be a bad idea, even if he's not at his quickest. He gives us a psychological edge over the opposition batsmen. Lara will definitely be wary of another bouncer. I think the management has to make this bold move for the next test, and our batting should automatically look better with Inzi in the middle order.

Anyone agree / disagree with me?

[DM]

why on earth has Shahid Afridi been taken off the attack?

Give him his haul YK!

[tahaqureshi]

I haven't seen anyone of their class as of yet in Pakistan.

There is the main problem....there suddenly seems to be a quality gap between the 90's and today...

even when players like waqar younis and wasim played their initial test matches, they looked far better than any debut/young player we have had in the last 2 years

[Usman]

we seriously need a better pace attack fo the next test match.. bringing back Shoaib would not be a bad idea, even if he's not at his quickest. He gives us a psychological edge over the opposition batsmen. Lara will definitely be wary of another bouncer. I think the management has to make this bold move for the next test, and our batting should automatically look better with Inzi in the middle order.

Anyone agree / disagree with me?

Shayan, yes it would be great to have someone of his pace on the team but to be honest, when the going gets tough like for instance today, I think he would be sitting in the dressing rooms with some sort of injury.

[DM]

Shayan, i agree, i'm very firm believer in pace.

I'd have played Akhar, Sami, Yasir Ali and Irshad together

[Shayan]

Rameez saying Mohammad Irshad should have toured

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

RAMIZ BIGGING UP MOHAMMAD IRSHAAD - saying he should have been on this tour - that he is 90mph and yasir arafat should have been here - skiddy bowler




DM - R U RAMIZ?

[DM]

A Ramiz gem:
(they're talking about batting to draw, camera pans to Afridi)
"He'll be looking to draw. To draw guns."
:))2

[adi 101]

lol

[DM]

lol WIY, i hope i'm not!

[Fessal]

Irshaad should have been called up but not sure about Yasir Arafat from what I have seen off him. Hasn't really done much for Scotland either in the odi national league in england.

Pity also we havent got many batsman with a good technique especially playing a seaming/moving ball.
We should have had Hassan Razza in the squad.

[Usman]

lol, yeah but really if we are even to draw then Afridi has to be a little sensible this time round.

[Fessal]

lol WIY, i hope i'm not!

If u r Ramiz then doesnt your employers pay u enough so that u can afford a hair cut ? :P Go and get a haircut and stay in the new millenium (not the 70's) :P

[Usman]

I agree that the player we are looking for is Hasan Raza, I was a bit shocked to hear Bazid chosen ahead of him but seriously Hasan desrves a chance, even Steve Waugh said on the tour of Australia.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

a bit coincidental DM - isnt it!

[tahaqureshi]

I think the west indians want to marr us so bad psycologically, that we totally screw up our second innings, making their victory all the more sweeter.

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

rana cleans up powell!!! full away swinging ball!

THE NEW BALL SWINGS QUITE A BIT WHICH IS WORRYING

[Usman]

new ball taken by Younis. I don't think its a good idea because now the ball wil come even quicker onto the bat

[salmanbuttfan]

usman ur a fool:P

[catwoman]

Damn when are they declaring?!!

[Usman]

Naved finaly gets his first wicket

good ball by rana

[Waqar's inswinging yorker]

usman - seems a bit familiar to me

[Awesome Anjum]

rana should try to attack edwards. smash him up etc...

[Hussain]

lead of over 500 now

one odd double century for Pakistan will not help our cause


we need atleast two for victories


Any candidates :D

[Usman]

usman ur a fool:P

I spoke to soon!

[Khalil]

88.5 Naved-ul-Hasan to Edwards, no run, outside off, ball kept bit low


Balls seems to keep low as low. This is not good for us

[Bailan]

Rana is bowling really nicely right now ... so no need to drop him.

Shabir looks out of place in this test ... fyi ..i didn't see him bowl when he picked up the wickets ... but right now he is garbadge ...

i feel if pak batting collapses it time to send them homw and take some ppers