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Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 12:00
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Welcome to the offical thread where all the news of the Multan Mughals team will be discussed.
The owner of this franchise is buntylover_2000.
Player averages: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Multan.txt
Legendary_Sage
12th June 2008, 12:37
1st of all i would like to appreciate the dedication and passion of Mr.SB for taking our team this far and handling all the matters with ease.
2nd thing the team looks very balanced.
InshaALLAH we will be the winners.
Well done SB
Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 12:56
thanks, it's been my pleasure.
lets hope we can go out and win this thing now!
Hari Sombar
12th June 2008, 14:59
The best team by far :19:
Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 15:07
The best team by far :19:
haha, had to make sure you were one of your picks!
Hari Sombar
12th June 2008, 15:29
Hey, just been looking through the cricsim threads, sorry for not signing up, and thx for picking me :)
I'll try be more active in that and I hope the team do well
iZeeshan
12th June 2008, 16:04
Buntyluver is on the team!
Managers are players too!
Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 16:33
Hey, just been looking through the cricsim threads, sorry for not signing up, and thx for picking me :)
I'll try be more active in that and I hope the team do well
Hari, what role and position do you play?
Hari Sombar
12th June 2008, 16:34
Hari, what role and position do you play?
batsman, opener normally, but I can come in anything higher than 6
Legendary_Sage
12th June 2008, 16:50
Hey, just been looking through the cricsim threads, sorry for not signing up, and thx for picking me :)
I'll try be more active in that and I hope the team do well
welcome hari.
its really nice to have you in the team.hopefully our team will do well and emerge as winners.
Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 16:54
hey bunty, what position do you want to play?
and I'll put you down as aswell Captain, do you want a Vice Captain or not?
Hari Sombar
12th June 2008, 17:03
welcome hari.
its really nice to have you in the team.hopefully our team will do well and emerge as winners.
Thx bunty, looking forward to the matches
Savak
12th June 2008, 18:44
allrounder. Consider me as a unique talent lol. An opening pinch hitter Afridi mold and opening 90 mph bowler in Akhtar mold. I can bowl in the middle as well, 90 mph reverswingers. Lol such an allrounder is what our team guinenly lacks atm. btw thanks for selecting me. Appreciated.
Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 18:52
get in, I knew we picked the right guy, we have waqar younis and saeed anwar in one now! We're bound to win the competition!
Savak
12th June 2008, 19:56
So how will this thing play out? How does cricsim work? I am totally new to this.
Straight Bat
12th June 2008, 20:28
So how will this thing play out? How does cricsim work? I am totally new to this.
Same here to be honest...
The legend, who set up all this will be simulating it on the cricsim website I guess but I'm not sure of the technical details of it all and what factors will judge who the best players are from PP (or maybe it will just be random)
SB, got your PM and sent it onto the guys you asked me to.
I wasnt aware that I was part of this. Put me down for number 5/6 in batting and I can bowl some medium pace too :)
siddharth
12th June 2008, 21:34
What is the nature of this game ? I am a middle order batsman,usually .
Wazeeri
12th June 2008, 22:29
i am a sifarishi bits and pieces player who has recently come out of a drug and methi addiction caused by my gambling problems. I also am rumoured to be dating a bollywood superstar
Mithun chakrapati.
iZeeshan
13th June 2008, 01:16
SB, got your PM and sent it onto the guys you asked me to.
I wasnt aware that I was part of this. Put me down for number 5/6 in batting and I can bowl some medium pace too :)
Saj bhai could yo do that for me too? The places in my sig?
I'll PM them to you.
Legendary_Sage
13th June 2008, 05:09
hey bunty, what position do you want to play?
and I'll put you down as aswell Captain, do you want a Vice Captain or not?
I would like to play as left arm fast bowler.who can bat a bit.more like wasim akram role in the team.i will play lower down the order at about 7 or 8.
I think you should become captain as what i think you have battrick experience as well so it will be good for our team.
if you like you can have the vice captain of your liking.
The Legend
13th June 2008, 05:56
I think so far this i sthe strongest team:)
Hari Sombar
13th June 2008, 10:28
I would like to play as left arm fast bowler.who can bat a bit.more like wasim akram role in the team.i will play lower down the order at about 7 or 8.
I think you should become captain as what i think you have battrick experience as well so it will be good for our team.
if you like you can have the vice captain of your liking.
Bunty, I think you deserve to be Vice Captain
Saj bhai could yo do that for me too? The places in my sig?
I'll PM them to you.
send me a PM of what you want sending on and I'll sort it for you.
Savak
13th June 2008, 11:59
So will i be sent as an opener in order to do some pinch hitting and to either open the bowling or bowl first at 90 mph plus? I knew this guy in my school, who could pinch hit and bowl really fast as well ( he was the main star), but he has settled abroad now. But honestly it will be dreamy if our national team can find such an allrounder.
Straight Bat
13th June 2008, 13:50
So will i be sent as an opener in order to do some pinch hitting and to either open the bowling or bowl first at 90 mph plus? I knew this guy in my school, who could pinch hit and bowl really fast as well ( he was the main star), but he has settled abroad now. But honestly it will be dreamy if our national team can find such an allrounder.
I think it'd be best if we made sure all the PP players were our priorities and then the international stars could just be used as fillers... this would make sure everyones happy!
I'm not sure who is in charge of picking the team though, we'll see if it's up to bunty as the owner or me.
I'll post my XI later on though and then bunty can swap an change players as he likes and that will become our first team!
Straight Bat
13th June 2008, 14:55
Line Up
Savak
Hari Sombar
Misbah Ul Haq
Straight Bat(capt)
Siddharth
Saj
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Bowling Orders
1st Bowler:Abdur Rauf
2nd Bowler:Sohail Tanvir
3rd Bowler:Buntylover_2000
4th Bowler:Saj
5th Bowler:Savak
6th option: Wazeeri
Reserves:
Chris Gayle
Shane Watson
Khanz
What do you guys think of that for a starting line up for the first match?
If people don't perform then we have Shane Watson, Chris Gayle and Khanz (if he replies) :16:
The only problem I see with it is that Misbah will be wasted by coming in at number 7, but he can help prevent a collapse if we fail.
Btw, looking at all the pace we have on show, does everyone agree we should play on a Green pitch?
Straight Bat
13th June 2008, 14:57
So will i be sent as an opener in order to do some pinch hitting and to either open the bowling or bowl first at 90 mph plus? I knew this guy in my school, who could pinch hit and bowl really fast as well ( he was the main star), but he has settled abroad now. But honestly it will be dreamy if our national team can find such an allrounder.
Look at the line up, don't fail on us!
We expect 100 from 30 balls and with you coming in as 5th bowling change, you should get plenty of reverse swing and clean up the batting side.
Savak
13th June 2008, 19:04
Look at the line up, don't fail on us!
We expect 100 from 30 balls and with you coming in as 5th bowling change, you should get plenty of reverse swing and clean up the batting side.
I wont, all for the team. Just a suggestion but the team management decision is final and accepting ofcourse. I am more than willing to open. But i think i can be used wisely in the manner just as Ponting used Shaun Tait in the 2007 WC. I could open as well, depending on how many runs are there to defend, if its a low total then we need to go gung ho from the first ball and blast wickets at the beggining. But yes, i understand my priority is to bowl 90mph reverseswinging yorkers at the death.
Straight Bat
13th June 2008, 19:35
I wont, all for the team. Just a suggestion but the team management decision is final and accepting ofcourse. I am more than willing to open. But i think i can be used wisely in the manner just as Ponting used Shaun Tait in the 2007 WC. I could open as well, depending on how many runs are there to defend, if its a low total then we need to go gung ho from the first ball and blast wickets at the beggining. But yes, i understand my priority is to bowl 90mph reverseswinging yorkers at the death.
Yeah I mean bunty has the final decision on things so we'll see what he thinks.
But I though because we have specialist fast bowlers such as bunty and Rauf, they might prefer the new ball. But that doesn't mean that you won't get to touch the new ball in other games. I'm going to keep changing things around and bunty might have his plans from game to game so even if you bowl later on in the innings in one game, in the next you might have the new ball.
And this XI which has been picked is just a stab in the dark to let everyone see what the team is shaping up as.
After we see how punjab pantehrs play in their first game (as they are then playing us) we can adjust our players and try and exploit their apparent weaknesses.
Hari Sombar
14th June 2008, 13:58
Green pitch is good, most of our bowlers are pace
Straight Bat
14th June 2008, 14:22
Current positions filled are:
Owner: Buntylover
Capatin: Me
Vice Captain: ???
Wicket-keeper: Sangakkara.
Who should we have as Vice Captain? I think Hari would be good because I know that he is active and he has good battrick experience and also I can contact him easily.
Bunty what do you think of nominating Hari as VC?
iZeeshan
14th June 2008, 14:25
Dude, bunty is captain. He's the team owner. Right?
Straight Bat
14th June 2008, 14:27
Dude, bunty is captain. He's the team owner. Right?
yep but bunty nominated me as captain.
He can still reverse the decision if he wants.
I would like to play as left arm fast bowler.who can bat a bit.more like wasim akram role in the team.i will play lower down the order at about 7 or 8.
I think you should become captain as what i think you have battrick experience as well so it will be good for our team.
if you like you can have the vice captain of your liking.
iZeeshan
14th June 2008, 14:28
Right didn't see that, I didn't see that he was in your team.
SB, have a look at my line up. It looks, dare I say it, rather beastly?
Hari Sombar
14th June 2008, 14:50
Right didn't see that, I didn't see that he was in your team.
SB, have a look at my line up. It looks, dare I say it, rather beastly?
Nahh, more like measly :P
Hari Sombar
14th June 2008, 14:51
Line Up
Savak
Hari Sombar
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat(capt)
Siddharth
Saj
Misbah Ul Haq
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Bowling Orders
1st Bowler:Abdur Rauf
2nd Bowler:Sohail Tanvir
3rd Bowler:Buntylover_2000
4th Bowler:Saj
5th Bowler:Savak
6th option: Wazeeri
Reserves:
Chris Gayle
Shane Watson
Khanz
SB, is that the final line-up ?
Straight Bat
14th June 2008, 14:56
Not final, thats just a draft I've come up with.
The final decision lies with bunty about the line up aswell as my proposal for you to be VC.
Hari Sombar
14th June 2008, 14:59
aright, we'll see how it goes then, looking forward to this :19:
Legendary_Sage
15th June 2008, 10:49
Current positions filled are:
Owner: Buntylover
Capatin: Me
Vice Captain: ???
Wicket-keeper: Sangakkara.
Who should we have as Vice Captain? I think Hari would be good because I know that he is active and he has good battrick experience and also I can contact him easily.
Bunty what do you think of nominating Hari as VC?
I have few points over here to mention
1-Hari is good choice off course as VC.As you are captain and i would like to give you 100% authority on the field and i will respect your decisions.because i believe that a captain should be given free hand if team has to perform at its best.
2- thing is your idae of using savak at death is wonderful more like Umer gull used in T-20 and is successful.
we can change our plans according to how match goes on and other team batting line ups.considering Right hand / Left hand batsman in opposition line up.
I can swap myself with Savak according to match situation in future and can bowl at death and savak will use new ball and see how things work.
Message to Savak : i appreciate your atitude towards better interest of the team.dont feel that players dont have say in anything regarding their role in the team .you know we are just starting things up and things will become clear as the games goes on.
3- we should go for green top pitches as our strength is fast bowling so we should play according to our strength.
4- regarding team composition the line up looks pretty good.my suggestion is that we should send misbah one down instead of sangakara and bring sanga at misbah place and see how thing goes.but we will do it in later games.to start with it looks pretty good.
Straight Bat
15th June 2008, 11:04
Great reply bunty, a lot of insight in there which I agree with!
Your idea of swapping Misbah and Sanga makes sense, I'll swap that around and see how it goes in the first match.
And also, in the second or 3rd match we can even have you and Savak opening the bowling if we need a destructive start with the ball to topple over some of the opposition star players. Then we can use Saj Rauf Tanvir Wazeeri all to consolodite and pick up handy wickets later on aswell.
Legendary_Sage
15th June 2008, 12:45
Great reply bunty, a lot of insight in there which I agree with!
Your idea of swapping Misbah and Sanga makes sense, I'll swap that around and see how it goes in the first match.
And also, in the second or 3rd match we can even have you and Savak opening the bowling if we need a destructive start with the ball to topple over some of the opposition star players. Then we can use Saj Rauf Tanvir Wazeeri all to consolodite and pick up handy wickets later on aswell.
Its good that we both are on the same page.I want to see our team as one unit because without unity success can't be achieved.
Regarding Misbah and Sanga thing.I think both are equally good in terms of bringing flexibility to batting order and can become destructive and defensive according to match situation.
Savak
21st June 2008, 06:42
Allright guys, whens our first game and how do we know the results? I think are side is wonderful and should we play to even 70-80% of our potential, no reason why we shouldnt emerge victorious. I hope i click as a bowler most of the times because getting wickets is most important, would be amazing if i can click with the bat too but we have plenty of guys who can consolidate in case i do too many Afridi's.
iZeeshan
21st June 2008, 12:17
Hari, excited about opening with the Sangakarra?
Because if you are, then lose it.
Raz is opening with the goat.
Hari Sombar
21st June 2008, 12:25
Hari, excited about opening with the Sangakarra?
Because if you are, then lose it.
Raz is opening with the goat.
Then it will be 2 golden ducks then won't it ? ;-)
iZeeshan
21st June 2008, 12:51
Then it will be 2 golden ducks then won't it ? ;-)
:))) Clever. No.
Afridi and Raz shall take your puny little bowlers to the kill.
Straight Bat
21st June 2008, 13:40
Edit,
Mohsin
21st June 2008, 16:28
Multan in disarray and the tournament hasn't even started!:O
There has also been news of in house fighting between the players of Multan with various separate groups set up by some of the senior players...
:D:P
Straight Bat
22nd June 2008, 17:39
Our first game tomorrow guys, lets start with a bang!
All set :)
Been drinking lassi by the jug to get my strength.
Here are your team stats. Please let me if you have any questions:
Savak
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 30
Bowling: Right arm fast
Average: 40
Hari Sombar
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 35
Bowling: Right arm leg spin
Average: 99
Misbah Ul Haq
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 34
Bowling: Right arm leg spin
Average: 99
Straight Bat
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 35
Bowling: Right arm off break
Average: 99
Siddarth
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 35
Bowling: Right arm off break
Average: 99
Saj
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 30
Bowling: Right arm Medium
Average: 40
Kumar Sangakkara
Batting Hand: Left
Average: 35
Bowling: Keeper
Average: 99
Wazeeri
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 25
Bowling: Right arm leg break
Average: 35
Sohail Tanvir
Batting Hand: Left
Average: 8
Bowling: Left arm fast medium
Average: 29
Buntylover_200
Batting Hand: Left
Average: 25
Bowling: Left arm fast
Average: 35
Abdur Rauf
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 01
Bowling: Right arm fast medium
Average: 15
Savak
22nd June 2008, 20:58
Savak
Batting Hand: Right
Average: 30
Bowling: Right arm fast
Average: 40
k first of all how do stats influence how we will play. Second i think a 90mph bowler should have a bowling average around 25-30. Batting average is fine. Btw i am working flat out in the gym and have been sprinting, jogging and drinking up energy drinks. Will be ready to kiss some @@@@ tommorow.
We are going with the following:
Batsman: 35 batting average, 99 bowling average
Bowler: 15 batting average, 30 bowling average
Batting Allrounder: 30 batting average, 40 bowling average
Bowling Allrounder: 25 batting average, 35 bowling average
Your averages will of course change after every match depending on the peformance. The above is just a starting point.
Savak
23rd June 2008, 06:25
We are going with the following:
Batsman: 35 batting average, 99 bowling average
Bowler: 15 batting average, 30 bowling average
Batting Allrounder: 30 batting average, 40 bowling average
Bowling Allrounder: 25 batting average, 35 bowling average
Your averages will of course change after every match depending on the peformance. The above is just a starting point.
Ok. Then i must be a bowling allrounder then because my main role is off a bowler as i have to blast the tail out with 90mph reverse swingers, and i am a pinch hitter who has to get the team off to a good start. I think i should be a bowling allrounder instead of a batting allrounder.
Legendary_Sage
23rd June 2008, 09:15
Come on gyys.lets start the wining streak.
btw at what time the match is going to start?
Straight Bat
23rd June 2008, 09:37
I think it was mentioned that it would start 7pm GMT
Legendary_Sage
23rd June 2008, 09:45
SB how are you.I have read your post.do you want to step down as captain?
i thought you are the best choice as captain in our team.
Legendary_Sage
23rd June 2008, 09:45
7 pm will be too late for ppl in pak.as it will be midnight in pakistan.
Straight Bat
23rd June 2008, 09:55
SB how are you.I have read your post.do you want to step down as captain?
i thought you are the best choice as captain in our team.
hey I'm ok bunty, you?
I thought about giving it up because I didn't think I'd be able to give enough time to it but I did a younis khan x2 and decided I'd be good to stay if you'd still have me. It won't take that long to discuss teams etc with you and I was blowing the time issue out of proportion so it should be ok!
Legendary_Sage
23rd June 2008, 10:04
I am fine.Its a pleasure to have you as captain.Lets hope we will win our match and carry this till end of final.
Hari Sombar
23rd June 2008, 15:26
FAM, what time are you simulating our match ?
I hope you can do 4:30pm onwards
If you can't, or it is a bad time for any others then no problem at all, choose your own time :)
It will start at 7pm GMT. =)
Hari Sombar
23rd June 2008, 16:29
Ok, I will try my best to be there :)
Legendary_Sage
24th June 2008, 04:18
Though we lost the match but even then we take the positives out of this match and can turn the tables on opposition in the coming matches.
Our team didnt give up and went down fighting which is the best thing.
If LBW's would have given in our favor and cathes were taken the result would have been different.
Every one played well but good and bad days are part of life.
So cheer up guys and gear up for coming encounters.SAJ dont take too much tension because the drop catches were not your fault.Its simulation flaw and could have gone against any one name.:)
Savak
24th June 2008, 07:20
Alright guys, i strongly suggest a change in tactics. I am dissapointed i was not given a bowl, i am the 90mph bowler here. So i have come bowl at first or second change atleast and in case the situation is critical, should take the new ball.
If we fix our batting, we should be able to fight back and avenge this defeat. Excellent fighting spirit, we fought till the end. But definately need a slight change in tactic. Hope i dont fined, or face disciplinary action for my outburst against the captain, coach and MM management lol, thought a few mistakes should be pointed out.
Straight Bat
24th June 2008, 09:07
Impressed with how we fought to defend the total. I'm going to look at the averages and scorecard and come up with my XI for the next match and bunty can chop and change that as he wishes.
Straight Bat
24th June 2008, 09:51
Savak
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Bowlers:
Savak
Bunty
Rauf
Tanvir
Wazeeri
Saj
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Savak, we can't decide who bowls however many overs. It's up to the simulator to decide that. However, FAM, if it's possible, can you try and make sure Savak gets a fair share of overs please? Thanks
BTW, there have been no changes to this team, only Sangakkara has been moved up the order. And this team will change when we find out what pitch Lahore have, this is just my idea now and i've done this early so bunty and hari and co have ample time for feedback before the next match starts.
With the above lineup, the simulator will choose the bowlers in the following order:
1) Rauf (10 overs) (15 bowling average)
2) Sohail (10 overs) (29 bowling average)
3) Wazeeri/Savak (10 overs) (35 bowling average)
4) Wazeeri/Savak (10 overs) (35 bowling average)
5) Saj (5 overs) (53 bowling average)
6) Bunty (5 overs) (78 bowling average)
The formula is simple: Whoever has the less bowling average will get to bowl first. And since Wazeeri, Bunty, and Savak had the same bowling average in the last match, the simulator picked first and second change bowler at random, and Savak missed out. =) But he would have bowled at least 5 overs in the last match if there were more runs on the board.
Savak
24th June 2008, 11:23
With the above lineup, the simulator will choose the bowlers in the following order:
1) Rauf (10 overs) (15 bowling average)
2) Sohail (10 overs) (29 bowling average)
3) Wazeeri/Savak (10 overs) (35 bowling average)
4) Wazeeri/Savak (10 overs) (35 bowling average)
5) Saj (5 overs) (53 bowling average)
6) Bunty (5 overs) (78 bowling average)
The formula is simple: Whoever has the less bowling average will get to bowl first. And since Wazeeri, Bunty, and Savak had the same bowling average in the last match, the simulator picked first and second change bowler at random, and Savak missed out. =) But he would have bowled at least 5 overs in the last match if there were more runs on the board.
The best case scenario in a normal match scenario would be for me to bowl first change for a spell of 4 overs, then i can come back for a spell of 2-3 overs to break a partnership and then finally bowl out at the death. Anyway we can get the simulator to use me or any other good bowler in this manner? But its cool if its not possible, all i am saying is we need to make sure that the weaker bowlers dont have to bowl at the death.
It's not possible unles I control a team, but that would be cheating, because you canonly control one team, but I think the simulator does a decent job of picking and rotating the bowlers. If you look at the scorecards of all the three matches, you will see that not every main bowler has finished off his quota, because either they weren't taking any wickets, or were going for runs.
Hari Sombar
24th June 2008, 15:21
Savak
Hari Sombar (VC)
Misbah Ul Haq
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
Saj
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Bowlers:
Savak
Bunty
Rauf
Tanvir
Wazeeri
Saj
This is a goos lineup, but can I suggest a few things ?
- If we are going with the same minefield we played on last time, I think we should open with lesser batsman. I don't know who but maybe someone like Wazeeri.
- I think Sanga and Misbah should swap places
Thats just a few suggestions ....
Oh yeah ..... and this time, bowl first :)
Straight Bat
24th June 2008, 16:08
I didn't get a choice if I could bowl or bat first, thats up to the simulation.
And we're playing away from home so we got to see what pitch lahore want before we can make those tactical decisions.
About Misbah and Sangakarra, lets see what bunty says on that because he was keen on misbah playing up the order in the last match
Hari Sombar
24th June 2008, 16:15
I didn't get a choice if I could bowl or bat first, thats up to the simulation.
And we're playing away from home so we got to see what pitch lahore want before we can make those tactical decisions.
About Misbah and Sangakarra, lets see what bunty says on that because he was keen on misbah playing up the order in the last match
Ah, I thought you actually did choose to bat :))
Lets see what Bunty says
Savak
25th June 2008, 05:21
Allright guys, i suggest everyone hits the nets and work on all the flaws, mistakes we made in the previous game. Also hit the gym, we need to hit as many sixes as possible. Our fielding must be top notch and lets get to RUUUUMBBBLLLLLE.
Savak
25th June 2008, 05:21
And after all the work. LETS GO PARTY TONIGHT.
Legendary_Sage
25th June 2008, 06:52
Hi guys,
yes i think we should swap misbah and sanga cuz in last match misbah was clueless and unable to perform at the top.
its good that you ppl are giving feedback and suggestions regarding team changes.
In next match i hope that we will finish the game as winners.
Savak
25th June 2008, 10:47
so how long does the whole match simulation take? Does it happen ball by ball? Our next match is on the 27th, time to show improvement and play to our potential. I am going to play the Afridi role, keeping everyone on their toes and telling people off in case of failures and mistakes.
Savak
25th June 2008, 10:48
Lets develop a team logo, brand. I would suggest lol "Lets Kill em".
Savak
25th June 2008, 10:49
:)) :))) "Kya fuzool, bekaar kee divein maar rahe ho yaar". Afridi telling a fielder off when he unnecessarily dived to field a ball which just needed a simple stop. Lol trying to show unnecessary over efficiency.
Savak
25th June 2008, 10:55
"Fielding to sahe kar, Daant bahar nikaal ke kya dikha raha hai". Shoaib Akhtar to Yasir Hamid. Shoaib was building pressure on Ganguly who hadnt scored for some time against Shoaib and got two runs courtesy a Hamid Misfield. Shoaib Furious, gives Hamid a piece of his mind. Hamid says "Koi baat nahin Shoaib Bhai". Shoaibs response "Koi baat nahin? Koi baat nahin". :))) :))) :)) :)) .
Straight Bat
25th June 2008, 19:07
So this is our current line up:
Savak
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
But I'm just watching the latest Lahore game and Akhtar Lee and crazul have torn up the Karachi top order on a batting pitch and whats worse is that we'll be playing at Lahore against that bowling attack on a green pitch.. thats why I think we need to shuffle the batting order.
Wazeeri
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Siddharth
Straight Bat (capt)
Misbah Ul Haq
Savak
Saj
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
I think with this line up, if wazeeri, hari and kumar can weather the storm from the lahore bowlers in the first 10 overs, then we can use the strong middle order of siddharth, myself and misbah to try and get as many runs as possible on the green pitch and then we can rely on Savak and Saj to either blast us some quick runs or try and prevent a collapse if we are in a sorry situation.
What do you guys think?
Edit: Also, as we can now have 5 international players, I was thinking of maybe bringing in Shane Watson for Wazeeri (who is a spinner), this would mean that on a green top we would have 2 Fast bowlers 3 Fast mediums and 1 medium paced bowler - thats a decent attack on a green pitch.
So actually another option for the XI could be:
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Shane Watson
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
SB, maybe open with Sanga and Misbah at 4?
Sanga has the technique to handle any bowler on any wicket.
Savak
25th June 2008, 20:03
So this is our current line up:
Savak
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
But I'm just watching the latest Lahore game and Akhtar Lee and crazul have torn up the Karachi top order on a batting pitch and whats worse is that we'll be playing at Lahore against that bowling attack on a green pitch.. thats why I think we need to shuffle the batting order.
Wazeeri
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Siddharth
Straight Bat (capt)
Misbah Ul Haq
Savak
Saj
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
I think with this line up, if wazeeri, hari and kumar can weather the storm from the lahore bowlers in the first 10 overs, then we can use the strong middle order of siddharth, myself and misbah to try and get as many runs as possible on the green pitch and then we can rely on Savak and Saj to either blast us some quick runs or try and prevent a collapse if we are in a sorry situation.
What do you guys think?
I fully support the MM management. I agree, i should not be opening on a green top, i have no choice but to come bat later on. Lol dont know whether i will prevent any collapse. But i am licking my lips bowling on this green top, time to head to the gym and ground for a workout and prep for tommorow.
Straight Bat
25th June 2008, 20:48
SB, maybe open with Sanga and Misbah at 4?
Sanga has the technique to handle any bowler on any wicket.
Yeah I was thinking about opening with KS aswell, but the only thing is if he falls cheaply to Akhtar or Lee then our middle order will be in trouble.
Lets see what bunty and hari have to say about this
Straight Bat
25th June 2008, 20:49
I fully support the MM management. I agree, i should not be opening on a green top, i have no choice but to come bat later on. Lol dont know whether i will prevent any collapse. But i am licking my lips bowling on this green top, time to head to the gym and ground for a workout and prep for tommorow.
Na man, I want you to live in a bubble untill the match - don't risk injury by going to the gym!
Geordie Ahmed
25th June 2008, 21:29
I think Saj should be dropped after his fielding performance against us :21: :21:
Straight Bat
25th June 2008, 23:11
Also, as we can now have 5 international players, I was thinking of maybe bringing in Shane Watson for Wazeeri (who is a spinner), this would mean that on a green top we would have 2 Fast bowlers 3 Fast mediums and 1 medium paced bowler - thats a decent attack on a green pitch.
So actually another option for the XI could be:
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Shane Watson
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Savak
26th June 2008, 07:29
Also, as we can now have 5 international players, I was thinking of maybe bringing in Shane Watson for Wazeeri (who is a spinner), this would mean that on a green top we would have 2 Fast bowlers 3 Fast mediums and 1 medium paced bowler - thats a decent attack on a green pitch.
So actually another option for the XI could be:
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Shane Watson
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Agreed, lets get em.
Hari Sombar
26th June 2008, 14:09
I dont think its a good idea to open with sanga, I think we should try saj, but hey ..... your the captain :)
Straight Bat
26th June 2008, 14:47
and hari you're the vice captain!
so post your XI that you want to see and bunty you do the same and we'll work something out from there!
Hari Sombar
26th June 2008, 14:49
Hari Sombar (VC)
Saj
Straight Bat (capt)
Sangakkara (wk)
Misbah Ul Haq
Siddharth
Shane Watson
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Savak
26th June 2008, 16:38
What time does the match start Pakistani time?
Straight Bat
26th June 2008, 17:03
not sure Savak sir, but I think it will be around 7pm GMT.
Also FAM, by what time tomorrow do you need Multan to confirm the line up?
Pak time will be 12am-1am.
Legendary_Sage
26th June 2008, 17:42
I've a suggestion that why not drop misbah and bring in gayle.He will be used as opener and we will have option of a spinner as well.Other then that team looks fine to me.What do you guys think?
Is there a limit on number of professional players that can play?
Savak
26th June 2008, 17:46
I've a suggestion that why not drop misbah and bring in gayle.He will be used as opener and we will have option of a spinner as well.Other then that team looks fine to me.What do you guys think?
I dont forsee an issue but who has more chances of surviving on a greentop Gayle or misbah? But will Gayle's offspin be really needed on a seaming pitch. But personally feel its worth the gamble. Final decision as always with the MM management.
Straight Bat
26th June 2008, 17:54
FAM, could you tell me the batting and bowling averages of both Shane Watson and Chris Gayle please? Thanks
iZeeshan
26th June 2008, 17:54
Its in the main thread.
Straight Bat
26th June 2008, 17:54
I've a suggestion that why not drop misbah and bring in gayle.He will be used as opener and we will have option of a spinner as well.Other then that team looks fine to me.What do you guys think?
Thats a thought but like Savak said, his effectivness might be nullified on a green pitch.
Lets see how his averages match up against Misbah and Shane Watson though.
Straight Bat
26th June 2008, 17:56
Its in the main thread.
The averages of the last startting XI are in the main thread, Watson and Gayles aren't in there and those are the ones I need
Shane Watson - 34 bat, 33 ball
Chris Gayle - 38 bat, 32 ball
Straight Bat
26th June 2008, 18:00
Looking at those averages, I say we go with this team:
Chris Gayle
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
We don't need both Watson and Gayle to play, because we only need 6 bowlers and with this team we have Rauf, Bunty, Savak, Tanvir, Gayle and Saj who can all bowl. Also, it sorts out the opening issue and ensures that Middle order is solid as Misbah is retained. What do the rest of you guys think?
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 01:50
I agree with you SB.the team that you have listed is a balanced team.Lets hope that our batting click this time around on a green top.
Savak
27th June 2008, 04:39
All right guys, show time soon. Let us offer nafals for a good day and a change in fortunes. Finally lets sock it to them. All out attack.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 05:59
Savak today hopefuly we will see abdul razzaq kind of hitting from you to finish off in style.
Savak
27th June 2008, 07:26
Savak today hopefuly we will see abdul razzaq kind of hitting from you to finish off in style.
I am more in Afridi mould as a batter but yeah would love to do a Razzaq. I hope i can do my job as the 90mph spearhead most importantly. How come the match hasnt started yet? Its already 1:30 pm here.
So the above team for today's game? Confirm please.
Savak
27th June 2008, 08:21
I think its fine. It will do.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 09:44
Yes FAM this is the confirmed team:
Chris Gayle
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Misbah Ul Haq
Saj
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Bowlers: Bunty, Savak, Rauf, Tanvir, Saj, Gayle
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 11:00
Come on guys howz the practice session going?
Please dont do like malik to turn your ankle while playing football and get injured.
Goldbrain
27th June 2008, 11:55
Ok. Then i must be a bowling allrounder then because my main role is off a bowler as i have to blast the tail out with 90mph reverse swingers, and i am a pinch hitter who has to get the team off to a good start. I think i should be a bowling allrounder instead of a batting allrounder.
:))) :))) :)))
You must be very hungry for fame. I haven't heard anything from anyone how good bowler you are accept yourself. :)))
Talk less and show what you have got. Don't be real time Pakistani players. Just talk no action :mush
By the way good luck :) Lets see what have you got :P
Savak
27th June 2008, 13:11
:))) :))) :)))
You must be very hungry for fame. I haven't heard anything from anyone how good bowler you are accept yourself. :)))
Talk less and show what you have got. Don't be real time Pakistani players. Just talk no action :mush
By the way good luck :) Lets see what have you got :P
I will do my best for the team, pray for me and wish me luck. Every team should have one aggressive, over the top and arrogant character to give more life to the team.
Goldbrain
27th June 2008, 13:50
Not bad Savak
10 overs 40/0
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 13:51
Our bowling is getting hammered.Need to find a way out.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 14:02
You're right bunty, we need to make some changes for the next game. I'll see how we chase this total and then will introduce my plan to you which you can change.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 14:05
The main thing is our bowling has failed to produce results on green picthes.I am wondering whats going wrong.
Savak
27th June 2008, 14:06
Not bad Savak
10 overs 40/0
Thanks, i am glad i didnt get hammered but thats not good enough, as a 90mph strike bowler my job is to take wickets, get breakthroughs and be a partnership breaker. Sorry i failed in that regard.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 14:17
Savak well bowled buddy.
Saj dont worry you were doing good but in death overs any 1 can go for runs.
The main thing is our bowling has failed to produce results on green picthes.I am wondering whats going wrong.
Yaar problem is that other teams played their first match on batting track, hence a few of their batsmen got high averages, and that's why your bowlers failed to get results. Oxy got 91 average, and The Blazer got 53 average going into this match, and they both scored heavily.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 14:52
Back to the drawing board. Forget about todays match, we were outplayed by a team because of their higher batting averages.
I propose that in the next game we play (which is a home game) we play on a flat pitch, this will help improve our averages. That means we should try and depend on international bowlers as their averages will not change and will play better on a flat pitch.
I'll post my team later.
Savak
27th June 2008, 14:55
I am too ashamed and depressed to post any further about my performance. But we need to play better than this, i hope we arent out of this tournament already? We now really need to win our final two games and hope of a better net run rate. But why are our batters not clicking?
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 14:58
Chris Gayle
Hari Sombar (VC)
Sangakkara (wk)
Straight Bat (capt)
Khanz141
Shane Watson
Saj
Savak
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf
Notes: 7 bowlers, Rauf, Bunty, Tanvir, Savak, Saj, Watson and Gayle. This is important on a flat pitch because if one is getting hammered then we have another one who can try and change things around
Also FAM, Khanz141 is a debutant but he hasn't replied to the thread so I'm going to assign him the role of a pure batsman as that is what we need.
Thoughts on the team?
Hari Sombar
27th June 2008, 15:07
Looks quite strong, we need a batting pitch, out batting is weaker then our bowling
Next match against Rawalpindi is on Rawalpindi's ground, but the match against Karachi will be on your ground. Check the fixtures.
Got to start winning chaps. 2 defeats in 2. We can turn this around though.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 15:23
Next match against Rawalpindi is on Rawalpindi's ground, but the match against Karachi will be on your ground. Check the fixtures.
argh sorry, do you have any idea what their pitch is?
I will ask him. They played their last match on a normal pitch though.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 15:40
I think our plan to play on green wicket 1st up backfired on us.But it doesn't matter its a learning curve.Things are getting clear so hopefuly we will make a strong come back in remaining matches.We always give our 100% and every one is sincere with the team success thats what matters at the end of the day.SB the changes you have made are good.Lets hope we will play our next match on batting paradise and will win it.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 15:45
I think our plan to play on green wicket 1st up backfired on us.But it doesn't matter its a learning curve.Things are getting clear so hopefuly we will make a strong come back in remaining matches.We always give our 100% and every one is sincere with the team success thats what matters at the end of the day.SB the changes you have made are good.Lets hope we will play our next match on batting paradise and will win it.
Yes it was really unfortunate that we lost our game on the green wicket, and that has set us back.
I'm not making excuses though, lets just keep playing the games at 100% and we're bound to get lucky soon.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 15:57
SB i am not putting the blame on you.It was my decision as well to choose a green top.We were just unlucky and thats it.So cheer up guys.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 16:13
Any one can please lay down the avgs of our batsman after two matches.It will help us to make batting order in next matches.
Savak
27th June 2008, 16:14
I find this simulation a bit unfair. I mean how come the computer decided on a green pitch they could score 270 plus but we could get out for 100 runs. Its not fair, the computer should have made it a close match atleast.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 16:30
Any one can please lay down the avgs of our batsman after two matches.It will help us to make batting order in next matches.
I've been using the averages, here is a link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Multan.txt
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 16:50
Thanx SB for the info.I want to suggest that we should make the batting order considering current batting avgs.Because during simultaion cricsim will give importance to current avg.So we can change order with one good avg batsman with one low batting avg batsman.It might help us to stablize batting.Its a gamble and can back fire as well.What do u guys think?
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:01
Here are the batting averages of the team I suggested earlier on for the next match.
Chris Gayle - Batting average 38
Hari Sombar (VC) - Batting average 12
Sangakkara (wk) Batting Average 35
Straight Bat (capt) Batting Average 19
Khanz141 Batting Average 45
Shane Watson - Batting Avg 34
Saj - Batting Average 11
Savak - Batting Average 24
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
As you can see, the averages of international stars like Gayle, Watson, Sangakarra and the debutant average of khanz means we've got enough strength. And it's important for myself, hari, saj and to an extent Savak retain our places so we can try and improve our averages for latter matches. This team in my opinion should be ok as the international players can carry us and hopefully us domestic players can also improve our averages.
If the pitch is normal then I will be dissapointed if the domestic players do not improve their batting averages, we need to sort that out.
Abdur Rauf
Hari Sombar
27th June 2008, 17:01
Thanx SB for the info.I want to suggest that we should make the batting order considering current batting avgs.Because during simultaion cricsim will give importance to current avg.So we can change order with one good avg batsman with one low batting avg batsman.It might help us to stablize batting.Its a gamble and can back fire as well.What do u guys think?
Good idea, even if it means me being dropped
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:02
No Hari, I think it's too early to drop start dropping players - i'm a fan of sticking with players and helping them get through the drought and the only way you can improve in this game is by carrying on playing.
Hari Sombar
27th June 2008, 17:04
If the domestic players need to improve averages, maybe the internationals can protect us. This meaning, internationals open against the good bowlers, the domestics bat against the lesser bowlers.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:07
Hari, I want myself to face as many balls as possible for the next match. I really want to play well. How about I swap positions with you or open with you? Which one do you prefer?
Chris Gayle - Batting average 38
Straight Bat (capt) Batting Average 19
Sangakkara (wk) Batting Average 35
Hari Sombar (VC) - Batting average 12
Khanz141 Batting Average 45
Shane Watson - Batting Avg 34
Saj - Batting Average 11
Savak - Batting Average 24
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Rauf
How about this? Or do you want to open another innings?
Hari Sombar
27th June 2008, 17:09
Nope, Im fine coming down the order :)
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:09
Right cool, so bunty, Saj, Savak etc, what do you guys think of this new line up? I think we need to make sure we get this just right and make sure we get a win.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 17:12
Hari i am not asking for people to be dropped.We will just change the batting order in case we all agree.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:19
Chris Gayle - Batting average 38
Straight Bat (capt) Batting Average 19
Sangakkara (wk) Batting Average 35
Hari Sombar (VC) - Batting average 12
Khanz141 Batting Average 45
Shane Watson - Batting Avg 34
Saj - Batting Average 11
Savak - Batting Average 24
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Rauf
What do you tihnk of this bunty?
Savak
27th June 2008, 17:27
Right cool, so bunty, Saj, Savak etc, what do you guys think of this new line up? I think we need to make sure we get this just right and make sure we get a win.
I will support any decision taken. I feel i should do some pinch hitting at the top especially on flat tracks but given i got out to Sami, i should be shot. But with my average as it is now 24, will it be a risk to open with me?
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:31
I will support any decision taken. I feel i should do some pinch hitting at the top especially on flat tracks but given i got out to Sami, i should be shot. But with my average as it is now 24, will it be a risk to open with me?
Yea thats mainly the reason why you aren't opening this time, because your average is higher than mine, hari's and saj's. I've got myself opening and the others above you just so we can try to improve our average to around your level or higher. This will be better for the team in the long run and help us hopefully win matches in the latter rounds.
If all our averages were equal then you'd probably be in contention for coming in as opener, but this way we can try and improve and also if you stay not out at the end of the innings, your average should also improve.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 17:35
I think you should swap urself with hari at the top.If SAJ dont mind then savak and myself should be promoted ahead of shane watson and saj.Saj should come ahead of watson.In this case he'll get a chance to improve his avg.In batting i've seen domestic players are better performers then int players.
Guys make the decisions that are best for the team - supporting you gents all the way.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:39
So you want to field this team bunty:
Chris Gayle
Straight Bat (capt)
Sangakkara (wk)
Hari Sombar (VC)
Khanz141
Savak
Buntylover_200
Saj
Shane Watson
Sohail Tanvir
Rauf
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 17:44
Exactly.But the final authority is with you guys.If you think its workable.Because in our two matches once a batting collapse occure then we can't recover from it.So thats why i come up with avgs thing to try and see if we can avoid batting failures in this way.
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 17:46
Yeah lets try it out, I don't think we will collapse this time because with the international players and the injection of khanz, we should score big. But this way, hopefully the domestic players can improve the averages which is vital for later matches.
Legendary_Sage
27th June 2008, 17:54
I want to thank every one for playing a positive role in getting our through this rough patch.Lets get ready to thrash the rawalpindi bowling.
Guys how many games does each team play?
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 18:52
There are 2 rounds, in each round we play 4 games
Straight Bat
27th June 2008, 18:54
FAM, this is our team for the next game:
Chris Gayle
Straight Bat (capt)
Sangakkara (wk)
Hari Sombar (VC)
Khanz141
Savak
Buntylover_200
Saj
Shane Watson
Sohail Tanvir
Rauf
Notes: Khanz141 makes debut as a batsman
Bowling options: Rauf, Tanvir, Watson, Saj, Savak, Bunty, Gayle.
Savak
27th June 2008, 20:46
So have been the stand out players in our squad so far? I admit i have been crap as of date. Need to raise performances of our team.
Legendary_Sage
28th June 2008, 06:00
Savak we are struggling just because of nature of pitches we played on so far.Dont worry we will bounce back hard very soon.
Legendary_Sage
28th June 2008, 06:51
When is our next match by the way.
Savak
28th June 2008, 07:09
Savak we are struggling just because of nature of pitches we played on so far.Dont worry we will bounce back hard very soon.
That we will inshallah, back to the nets and gym for me.
Legendary_Sage
28th June 2008, 07:44
I think we should have our match today.what do you guys think?
Savak
28th June 2008, 07:50
I think we should have our match today.what do you guys think?
Yeah man, anyplace, anywhere, anytime i say.
Legendary_Sage
28th June 2008, 08:03
I dont know what are FAM views on this.
If Easa posts his team today, I will do it today.
Legendary_Sage
28th June 2008, 08:07
Thanks FAM for your support.You are a wonderful guy.
Savak
28th June 2008, 09:20
So whats the scene? Are we playing today?
Straight Bat
28th June 2008, 09:44
if easa posts his team then yep
Savak
28th June 2008, 11:14
FAM, this is our team for the next game:
Chris Gayle
Straight Bat (capt)
Sangakkara (wk)
Hari Sombar (VC)
Khanz141
Savak
Buntylover_200
Saj
Shane Watson
Sohail Tanvir
Rauf
Notes: Khanz141 makes debut as a batsman
Bowling options: Rauf, Tanvir, Watson, Saj, Savak, Bunty, Gayle.
So is this going to be our team? Where is Easa? I am so hungry for revenge.
Straight Bat
28th June 2008, 20:13
We won guys.
Next match is against Karachi at home. As it's tomorrow we don't have much time to discuss tactics etc so I need quick feedback.
Karachi have a very very strong line up. I suggest we go with a normal pitch as karachi have strengths at both bowling and batting and also I suggest we keep the same line up as last time:
Chris Gayle
Straight Bat (capt)
Sangakkara (wk)
Hari Sombar (VC)
Khanz141
Savak
Buntylover_200
Saj
Shane Watson
Sohail Tanvir
Rauf
Savak
28th June 2008, 20:21
The team won, that is all that matters to me. Great that we turned the corner now lets hope this is the turning point and we carry our form from here on.
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 00:08
Cograts guys,
i went to sleep last night and i just woke up.Really happy that we won.Every one played well which is a good sign.
SB i agree that we should keep the same line up.Lets hope that we will make it two in a row.
BTW which type of pitch are we going use for the match?
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 01:46
FAM i've a question that apart from avgs of batsman do you give strike rate to batsman or not.Or rather assign him batting style like attacking batsman or innings builder.Because i've seen some batsman in other teams have very good strike rates and some like MCM play test cricket.Like savak mentioned he wants to be a pinch hitter but thus far his strike rate is like YK one.
iZeeshan
29th June 2008, 03:41
Nah, its just done randomly. There are no strike rates, or aggressive batsmen and such.
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 04:22
Zeeshan,Thanks for info.
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 06:40
When is our match scheduled to start?
So the above lineup, and a normal pitch? Confirm please.
FAM i've a question that apart from avgs of batsman do you give strike rate to batsman or not.Or rather assign him batting style like attacking batsman or innings builder.Because i've seen some batsman in other teams have very good strike rates and some like MCM play test cricket.Like savak mentioned he wants to be a pinch hitter but thus far his strike rate is like YK one.
It depends on the opposition's bowling combined with the pitch. If it's good, then it's really hard to score runs. Batsmen also try to play according to the situation I've noticed, so when the wickets fall quickly, they go defensive.
Straight Bat
29th June 2008, 09:17
Bunty, our next match is today and I think we should use a normal pitch because there isn't an obvious weakness in the Karachi team which we can exploit through a pitch type. So with a normal pitch, all we have to do is make sure everyone works hard and that could be enough to generate a win.
FAM, yep it's confirmed.
Straight Bat
29th June 2008, 09:21
Also, what time is kick off today?
thanks again yaar
Straight Bat
29th June 2008, 12:00
So thats our campaign in the first round over, 4 games and 1 win.
The only way from here is up and I hope thats the way my batting average goes in the next round!
Straight Bat
29th June 2008, 12:04
Lets take a trip down honesty road guys, tell me what everyone is thinking. This is the only way we can hit back in the next round.
My thoughts are baisically that I messed up the teams chances from the first game when I went for the green pitch. I didn't understand the simulation etc and so didn't realise our batsman were going to be ruined for the rest of the tournament because their averages would be so low after that game. I see that as the pivitol point of why we lost our first couple games, but after we packed out the batting with the international stars who had better averages, I was suprised to see us still lose the last game.
Your thoughts?
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 12:25
Another loss,but dont worry guys we will improve as the games go on.
SB yes you are right we got it wrong from the word go but all we can do now is wait and see.Today sanga and shane watson did well so i think in next match we can promote watson.
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 12:30
Only thing that we can do now is batting order can be done with batsman with high avgs and then lower one's because as FAM mentioned when a wicket falls the batsman become defensive to avoid or try to avoid that thing by avgs thing what do you guys think?
Straight Bat
29th June 2008, 12:43
you mean something like order?
Batting Average Bowling Average
38 Gayle 32
35 Sangakkara
34 Watson 33
20 Hari
15 Straight Bat
28 Khanz
22 Savak 80
21 Bunty 80
09 Saj 46
08 Tanvir 29
01 Rauf 15
Hari Sombar
29th June 2008, 12:49
As Im lower down the order, I see Im starting to get more runs
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 13:56
Yes i think its good batting order.But nothing is final.If you guys think its ok then we will go ahead.
Savak
29th June 2008, 14:06
I am ready to be dropped. I have been a liability so far.
Legendary_Sage
29th June 2008, 14:13
Savak even i have not done any thing special.If SB think that he has a better replacement even for me then i've no objection at all.Because what matters at the end of the day is win for the team.I appreciate your atitude.
Straight Bat
29th June 2008, 14:26
Guys, I thought about dropping myself aswell - what type of specialist batsman has an average of 15? But the thing is, the only way we can improve is if we keep on playing. If we start dropping players who had one or two poor games, they will always remain at that level because they haven't had a chance to redeem themselves - I say we carry on playing this team untill everyone is up to a good level.
Hari Sombar
29th June 2008, 17:42
I understand what sb is saying, if all our averages stay low, we will have no chance in the important games to come
Hari Sombar
29th June 2008, 17:51
If any of the captains are going to be busy, then maybe they can delegate some of the work to their vice captains.
Let me know if u need help SB
Savak
29th June 2008, 20:23
Arent we already out of the tournament?
Geordie Ahmed
29th June 2008, 20:26
Arent we already out of the tournament?
dont think so
Round 1 games have finished - Round 2 starting now, so thats another 4 games to go
No yaar. You guys can still fight back, or can at least try to improve your stats for the next season.
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 08:23
So the first round is done, and the tournament is going well, and it wouldn’t have been possible without all your support and appreciation. Thank you.
By now I am sure everyone has got an idea about how the cricsim works, and how they should go about selecting their teams. I will just post what I have learned about the simulator, and give some tips:
Batting:
It’s always better to open with your international players, because even if they get out cheaply, their averages will remain the same. Probability of getting out is higher when facing the new ball and good bowlers, and lower when facing the old ball and not so good bowlers, so if you want to increase someone’s average, then it’s better to send them at 5 or even lower. But that’s especially when you are playing on a normal or bowling track. On a flat track, it doesn’t make much difference.
Bowling:
Their must be 6 bowlers in the team as you know, because the simulator rarely picks only 5 bowlers. But sometimes it can go beyond the 6th bowling option and picks up one of your batsmen to bowl an over or two if the team desperately needs a wicket, and your main bowlers aren't helping much.
If you are playing on a flat pitch, then make sure that your bowlers don’t have an average of 80 or else they can go for a lot of runs!!!
Fast bowlers don’t take many wickets with the old ball, especially on flat and normal tracks, so it’s always good to have a spinner in your team.
I think this strategy will help us.
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 08:26
I think if we send batsman based on avgs.it will help our batting to click.
On a side note.Is it possibel that FAM can change me to a leg spinner.Because we are lacking a spinner in the team.As FAM mentioned it is good to have a spinner in the side to take wickets with old ball.
What do you people think?
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 10:13
We have Gayle and also there is Wazeeri waiting in the wings but if you want to become a spinner aswell then thats your choice
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 10:16
We have Gayle and also there is Wazeeri waiting in the wings but if you want to become a spinner aswell then thats your choice
I thought in later overs as FAM has mentioned spinners are more effective then fast bowlers when ball is soft.thats just a suggestion.if you guys think its ok then i we should go a head otherwise its ok.
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 10:18
I don't think anyone else should have a say in it bunty, it should be your own personal choice as to what you think you can do best for yourself and also best for the team. I'd say the same if Savak or Saj wanted to change their bowling side.
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 10:23
We do have only one spinner in playing 11 and that is gayle.so it will be better if i can bowl some leg spin.i am thinking it might help the team cause.because right now with high bowling avg i am not getting any chance of bowling.but in case cricsim turns up to me if one bowler is getting hammered then i think it will add variety to the attack.Our attack will look one dimensional with way to many fast bowlers but no spinner on batting tracks.
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 10:59
That makes sense, so lets see if FAM thinks its possible
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 12:16
Thanks FAM for your support.
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 18:26
SB in our next game we should go for batting pitch.We have seen in the last match that our batsman struggle on normal pitch and we lost the match.So we can open with international pair then move watson lower down the order as last game and give batting practice to our domestic players on batting paradise.I know in the process we might end up loosing the match but right now we are in deep trouble.So have to find a way out.KK team used this strategy and they were successful in getting the avgs of batting going up.So we can try it as well.What do you guys think?
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 18:34
yea the game we play next is away but the next home game i'll make sure we go for a batting pitch, it makes sense but we also need to make sure we play as many international bowlers as possible to ensure our domestic bowling averages dnt get hurt too much
Hari Sombar
30th June 2008, 18:36
sb, who are the internationals we have ?
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 18:46
Do you have any idea what will be type of pitch we will play tomorrow?
If they choose normal or bowling pitch then we should move watson up and see off the new ball with top three international players and then give domestic players to play with old ball and improve batting.If they go for batting pitch then we should open with sanga and gayle followed by domestic players.
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 19:31
they say they are going to probably go for a normal pitch, so:
Gayle
Sangakkara (wk)
Watson
Hari (VC)
Straight Bat (capt)
Khanz
Savak
Bunty
Saj
Tanvir
Rauf
The Blazer
30th June 2008, 20:53
Thanks SB.
The Blazer
30th June 2008, 21:12
And your six bowling options mate?
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 21:19
Savak
Bunty
Saj
Tanvir
Rauf
Gayle
Watson
can all bowl.
cheers for your work blazer
The Blazer
30th June 2008, 21:53
Alright, thanks a lot.
Legendary_Sage
30th June 2008, 22:13
SB , Savak and mine bowling avg is 80 and we both can go for runs.But we dont have any one else in the team to share the load of sixth bowling option.Lets hope it didnt cost us the match.
Blazer please change my bowling style from left arm fast to leg break bowler if it is not done by FAM.
Yeah, I've done that. Blazer got the updated roster.
Straight Bat
30th June 2008, 22:16
SB , Savak and mine bowling avg is 80 and we both can go for runs.But we dont have any one else in the team to share the load of sixth bowling option.Lets hope it didnt cost us the match.
Blazer please change my bowling style from left arm fast to leg break bowler if it is not done by FAM.
Yep I know about your avgs but the only way those will go down is if you guys get to bowl more often so i hope you get to bowl in the next match
Legendary_Sage
1st July 2008, 04:41
Thanks FAM.
siddharth
1st July 2008, 17:26
why i am not in the team :pissed:
McBoom
1st July 2008, 17:31
why i am not in the team :pissed:Because you are not fit enough, but don't worry Shahrukh Khan loves you! :akhtar
siddharth
1st July 2008, 19:35
I am fatter( oops spelling mistake) fitter than ever .I am raring to go,i never let down my team .
Straight Bat
1st July 2008, 19:39
Siddharth I'll try and fit you in the next match! I remember starting you for a couple games but took you out to try and experiement after we were allowed 5 internationals, I'll try and put you in the next match though if bunty and co agree
Straight Bat
3rd July 2008, 21:03
Theres going to be a party in Multan tonight!!!!
Straight Bat
3rd July 2008, 21:08
We're in the big time now!! This win is going to set us up well for our remaining matches and will help us put up a challenge for that spot to the final!
But back to business, for the next game bunty, I suggest we replace khanz with siddharth
Yes congrats to my fellow Mughals.
A hard earned but crucial victory :)
Mohsin
3rd July 2008, 21:19
You were lucky this time get it!
BUT U WILL NOT GET THROUGH BELIEVE ME!!!!!!!!!MUHAHAHAHAHA
:pissed :pissed
:D
Savak
4th July 2008, 04:06
What a fantastic last over. I am so glad i bowled it. Well done boys.
Legendary_Sage
4th July 2008, 05:13
Well done every one.Though i went for runs with bowling but apart from me every 1 did well.Savak your last over was breathtaking.
SB we will play the next match on batting wicket so why not replace gayle with siddarth and let khanz imrove his avg.Gayle looked out of sorts at the top.I don't why didnt he get to bowl in the last match.
What do you think regarding my suggestion?
Straight Bat
4th July 2008, 08:44
The only problem with is that we lose Gayle the bowler as well and he has a decent average of around 30.
Legendary_Sage
4th July 2008, 09:45
The only problem with is that we lose Gayle the bowler as well and he has a decent average of around 30.
SB.its fine we can drop Khanz and bring in Sid.its done.
Straight Bat
4th July 2008, 10:22
Thanks bunty, I'm sticking my neck out with this recommendation and hopefully it will pay off!
Hari Sombar
4th July 2008, 14:48
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH !!!!!
We Won !!!
Great match !!
Savak
4th July 2008, 18:15
Well done every one.Though i went for runs with bowling but apart from me every 1 did well.Savak your last over was breathtaking.
SB we will play the next match on batting wicket so why not replace gayle with siddarth and let khanz imrove his avg.Gayle looked out of sorts at the top.I don't why didnt he get to bowl in the last match.
What do you think regarding my suggestion?
Thanks but no wickets :pissed: which means no improvement in average.
Select your team for your match against Lahore. 5 International players are allowed. Mention at least 6 bowlers, and the pitch type. Post it within 24 hours, please.
Straight Bat
9th July 2008, 10:51
Gayle
Sangakkara (wk)
Watson
Hari (VC)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Savak
Bunty
Saj
Tanvir
Rauf
Raugf Tanvir Saj Bunty Savak Watson Gayle all bowlers
Flat pitch
Select your team for your match against Rawalpindi. 5 International players are allowed. Mention at least 6 bowlers, and the pitch type. Post it within 24 hours, please.
Legendary_Sage
10th July 2008, 09:52
Another loss but never mind.Our batting failed again and i think it was due to very good bowling attack of lahore team consisting Lee and Akhtar.
So SB what do you think about next pitch condition.Rawalpindi team is almost like us i mean no bowling demons so why not try to play on flat pitch again and hope the batting will click.what do you say?
Straight Bat
10th July 2008, 09:53
yea falt pitch,
what about the starting XI bunty?
I'm gutted to see myself get a duck in the last match and I don't think I should have a say in the next match XI.... so I'll leave it up to you.
Legendary_Sage
10th July 2008, 10:11
Our line up for Rawalpinid Match
Gayle
Sangakkara (wk)
Watson
Hari (VC)
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Savak
Bunty
Saj
Tanvir
Rauf
Pitch : Flat pitch
Bowlers
Raugf Tanvir Saj Bunty Savak Watson Gayle
Legendary_Sage
10th July 2008, 10:13
SB its allright.Our team is unable to recover ever since we deciede to play to Poor conditions.But we have to try and get our batsman in good batting form.
Getting duck in a match is not a bad thing.this can happen to any one my hopes are on you to get your form back.
Savak
11th July 2008, 08:01
We need to improve our averages, we should try to, its the only thing which will guarantee us some success in the future.
Team needed for your last match against Karachi.
SameerM
11th July 2008, 09:18
make it a strong team, since we (KK) need to lose one game atleast !! ;-)
Legendary_Sage
11th July 2008, 17:53
I dont understand why the hel Cricsim underestimates our batting.
Straight Bat
11th July 2008, 19:37
Team needed for your last match against Karachi.
Same line up as the one against Rawalpindi I think
Straight Bat
11th July 2008, 21:45
Thats this season done!
Not a good season for me personally by getting 2 ducks in the last 3 matches.
Anyway, we can only build onwards from this season.
Straight Bat
11th July 2008, 22:36
Ok bunty, it's the end of our season and I think it's only right for you, as the franchise owner to be able to swap things around. So I relinquish captaincy after a season in charge so now it's up to you to decide on the next captain (either myself again, yourself or any of the other players in the team).
As the franchise owner this decision should be yours because it's pivitol in forming the team in which effectively you own.
Thanks anyway for this season.
Savak
12th July 2008, 09:07
So when is the next season?
Legendary_Sage
12th July 2008, 09:54
You are welcome SB.
Every one in our team has put efforts and thats a very good sign.We struggled due to our batting.So we have to add a few more domestic batsman and an international spinner because in middle overs our team struggle to take wickets and those teams who have got international spinners have done pretty well.
We will how the auction will go and what will be the role to get new players in the pole.
You have done a very good job as captain.I will stick with you.
But i have a suggestion that we will redefine or in other words fine tune few things so that next time around we get good results.
I want to thank every one our team for the support and spirit they have showed.
I think why not we should go for cricket captain instead of cricsim in next season.
Straight Bat
12th July 2008, 10:03
Yeah, the thing is I'm not sure how the auction will work. Maybe we will have to sacrifice a current international player for a new one. If thats the case, what do you think we should do? I think we should swap Gayle with Vettori (sort out the middle overs problem) or Kallis (which would sort out the batting problem) or do you have any other suggestions?
For domestic batsmen, I know a person on PP who wants to join in and he is a batsman so I will make sure he will sign up to Multan. That way we can have a new batsman in the team with an average of 35 or 45 (whatever the starting average is)
Hari Sombar
12th July 2008, 11:52
Yeah, the thing is I'm not sure how the auction will work. Maybe we will have to sacrifice a current international player for a new one. If thats the case, what do you think we should do? I think we should swap Gayle with Vettori (sort out the middle overs problem) or Kallis (which would sort out the batting problem) or do you have any other suggestions?
For domestic batsmen, I know a person on PP who wants to join in and he is a batsman so I will make sure he will sign up to Multan. That way we can have a new batsman in the team with an average of 35 or 45 (whatever the starting average is)
I think Vettori is a good idea
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