PakPassion Premier League Main Thread (Fixtures etc now Updated)

[FAM]

This is the main thread for PakPassion Premier League which will be played on cricsim - The Cricket Simulator. In this thread you can ask any questions you have about the league or cricsim. This thread will also contain the fixtures, points table, link to the completed matches, commentary, and player averages.

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Fixtures

Round 1

1st Match
Lahore Lightning Leopards v Karachi Khanjars
(Lahore. August 12, 2008)
2nd Match
Multan Mughals v Peshawar Princes
(Multan. August 13, 2008)
3rd Match
Rawalpindi Rustums v Punjab Panthers
(Rawalpindi. August 14, 2008)
4th Match
Lahore Lightning Leopards v Multan Mughals
(Lahore. August 15, 2008)
5th Match
Karachi Khanjars v Peshawar Princes
(Karachi. August 16, 2008)
6th Match
Rawalpindi Rustums v Lahore Lightning Leopards
(Rawalpindi. August 16, 2008)
7th Match
Punjab Panthers v Karachi Khanjars
(Faisalabad. August 17, 2008)
8th Match
Lahore Lightning Leopards v Peshawar Princes
(Peshawar. August 18, 2008)
9th Match
Karachi Khanjars v Multan Mughals
(Multan. August 19, 2008)
10th Match
Rawalpindi Rustums v Peshawar Princes
(Peshawar. August 20, 2008)
11th Match
Punjab Panthers v Multan Mughals
(Faisalabad. August 21, 2008)
12th Match
Rawalpindi Rustums v Karachi Khanjars
(Karachi. August 22, 2008)
13th Match
Punjab Panthers v Lahore Lightning Leopards
(Faisalabad. August 23, 2008)
14th Match
Rawalpindi Rustums v Multan Mughals
(Rawalpindi. August 24, 2008)
15th Match
Punjab Panthers v Peshawar Princes
(Peshawar. August 25, 2008)

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POINTS TABLE

Team Played Won Lost Tie Points NRR
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lahore 4 4 0 0 8 -
Peshawar 4 3 1 0 4 -
Karachi 4 2 2 0 4 -
Punjab 3 1 2 0 2 -
Multan 4 1 3 0 2 -
Rawalpindi 3 0 3 0 0 -

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MATCH RESULTS

Round 1, Match 1:
Karachi Khanjars vs Lahore Leopards
Thread Link: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=60629
Scorecard Link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m1s.TXT
Commentary Link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m1c.TXT


Round 1, Match 2:
Multan Mughals vs Peshawar Princes
Thread Link: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=60663
Scorecard Link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m2s.TXT
Commentary Link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m2c.TXT


Round 1, Match 3:
Rawalpindi Rustums vs Punjab Panthers
Thread Link: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=60679
Scorecard Link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m3s.TXT
Commentary Link: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m3c.TXT

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PLAYER AVERAGES
(Updated after every match)


Rawalpindi Blasters: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Rawalpindi.txt
Lahore Lightning Leopards: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Lahore.txt
Karachi Khanjars: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Karachi.txt
Multan Mughals: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Multan.txt
Punjab Panthers: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Punjab.txt
Peshawar Princes: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Peshawar.txt

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FAQ

General Questions

What is PakPassion Premier League?
PakPassion Premier is a fictional cricket league just like Indian Premier League in real life.

How the matches are played?
All the matches are played on Cricsim - The Cricket Simulator. For more information visit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cricket_Simulator

How the simulator decides runs scored by a batsman/wickets taken by a bowler?
For batsmen, it takes things like batting average of the batsman, bowling average of the bowler batsman is facing, condition of the ball, pitch type, and a random factor under account to decide the runs. Same way for the bowlers.

How can I see a match?
Every match will have its own thread. You can go to that thread and check out the commentary link to read live ball by ball commentary of that match. After the match has ended, the complete scorecard and commentary of that match is posted in the thread.

How much time it takes for a match to finish?
Approximately 1 hour 30 minutes.

I see you also play in a team. How do I know you are not cheating???
You have to believe me. I am a very honest person.

How many times do you simulate a match?
If it’s my team’s match, then I play a few tryout matches to decide a competitive XI, then I tell myself, “The next match I am going to play will be the official match. No matter what happens I won’t play the match again”. Then I play the official match and do not play the match again.

Don’t you think that’s unfair?
Absolutely not. You can also download Cricsim and pick the starting XI for your team the same way I do. Also, by doing above, it doesn’t mean that my team will win all the time. For example: Against Karachi Khanjars in the last season, I played a few tryout matches to see how I can win against them, then I selected my starting XI, and played the official match, which we lost, but I didn’t go to the previous results or played another match.

What are the starting averages for new domestic players?
If you are a specialist bowler: your average is 30 bowling, 15 batting
if you are a specialist batsman: your average is 99 bowling, 35 batting
Batting All rounder: 30 batting, 40 bowling
Bowling All rounder: 25 batting, 35 bowling

How to join PakPassion Premier League?
Too late for that now. Wait for Season 3.

Who won Season 1?
Lahore Lightning Leopards. Karachi Khanjars were runner ups.

Manager Questions

What is the best strategy to pick my starting XI?
For batting, it’s always better to open with your international players, because even if they get out cheaply, their averages will remain the same. Probability of getting out is higher when facing the new ball and good bowlers, and lower when facing the old ball and not so good bowlers, so if you want to increase someone’s average, then it’s better to send them at 5 or even lower. But that’s especially when you are playing on a normal or bowling track. On a flat track, it doesn’t make much difference.

For bowling, their must be 6 bowlers in the team, because the simulator rarely picks only 5 bowlers. Sometimes it can even go beyond the 6th bowling option and picks up one of your batsmen to bowl an over or two if the team desperately needs a wicket or your main bowlers aren't helping much.

If you are playing on a flat pitch, then make sure that your bowlers don’t have an average of 80 or else they can go for a lot of runs!!!

Fast bowlers don’t take many wickets with the old ball, especially on flat and normal tracks, so it’s always good to have a spinner in your team.

What is the difference between an international player and a domestic player?
International player’s average remains the same throughout the league. Domestic player’s average fluctuates depending on his performance.

How many international players can be in the starting XI?
Max are 5.

How many ODI’s an international player needs to play to be eligible to play in the PakPassion Premier League.
5 ODI’s/10 List A matches

One of my international players has played more than 5 ODI’s, but his averages are poor, because he didn’t get a consistent run in his team, but he has potential and I want to play him in my team. Can I use his List A averages?
Yes. But you can’t do the opposite (Using someone’s ODI averages, because their List A averages are poor, and they have played less than 5 ODI’s).

[iZeeshan]

Great job FAM! Wonderful stuff. Great to see others taking interest into this. sadly, laziness has prevailed me.

[Mohsin]

Good job FAM!!
If ANYTHING needs doing dont hesitate to contact me ya?!:)

[Straight Bat]

Doing a great job FAM.

The Multan team for tomorrows match Vs Punjab is:

Savak
Hari Sombar (VC)
Misbah Ul Haq
Straight Bat (capt)
Siddharth
Saj
Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
Wazeeri
Sohail Tanvir
Buntylover_200
Abdur Rauf

Bowling Orders


1st Bowler:Abdur Rauf (Fast-Medium bowler)
2nd Bowler:Sohail Tanvir (Fast-Medium bowler)
3rd Bowler:Buntylover_2000(Fast bowler)
4th Bowler:Saj (Medium paced bowler)
5th Bowler:Savak (Fast bowler)
6th option: Wazeeri (Spin Bowler)

[Straight Bat]

BTTW FAM, tomorrows match is being played at Multan's ground and our groundsmen have prepared a green pitch. Try and incorporate that into the CricSim thing, thanks!

[The Blazer]

What happened to The Legend? :))

[Mohsin]

Team for tomorrow's game against Multan:

1.Graeme Smith (Opening batsman)
2. MCMLXXXII (Opening batsman)
3. Plasma(vc) (Middle-order batsman)
4. Geordie Ahmed (wk) (Middle-order batsman)
5. Andrew Symonds (Middle-order batsman)
6. Mohsin_Pak786 (c) (Fast bowling all-rounder)
7. Andrew Flintoff (Right arm fast bowler)
8. Boi (Left handed fast swing bowler, lower order batsman)
9. Veggito1 (Left arm fast bowler)
10. Goldbrain (Right arm fast bowler)
11. Dale Steyn (Fiery opening fast bowler)

1st Bowler: Dale Steyn (to bowl last 3 overs of innings)
2nd Bowler:Andrew Flintoff
3rd Bowler: Mohsin_Pak786
4th Bowler: Plasma
5th Bowler: Veggito1
6th Bowler: Goldbrain
7th bowler Boi

Plasma the players dropped are 12thMan, Mercenary and kashif were given a rest to give Goldbrain, Veggito1 and MCMLXXXII a game and see how they do.

Is the team/bowling fine?:) 7 bowlers? I'd like to see a fast leftie bowling (Boi) and he bowled OK today?? A green pitch, would you like to have a bowl or should it be pure pace attack?
__________________________________________________ ________

btw FAM, wat time is tomorrow's game scheduled to start?
Its a school day tomorrow btw:)

[FAM]

Plasma is given rest too? But he's in the team...

Yaar, there is no fixed time. The match only takes 15 seconds to play. Lol. I can play it like right now. Only thing which takes time is writing match updates. :)

But it's 23rd for me, and your match is actually supposed to be played now, but I played two matches on 22nd this time, so let's say after 24 hours from now, the 3rd match will start.

[Mohsin]

^^Oh no my bad, i tried to direct the sentence at Plasma and tell him about the players dropped. I see now it was confusing

OK thats no problem mate, tomorrow evening is good (stops it from being 'overdone' if you just simulate the matched like that!:) )
I love the writr up btw, they are great!:)

[FAM]

Haha. I did think that you might have directed the sentence toward Plasma, but I didn't want to take any risks. lol.

Thank you. ^_^

[Boi]

Team for tomorrow's game against Multan:



Plasma the players dropped are 12thMan, Mercenary and kashif were given a rest to give Goldbrain, Veggito1 and MCMLXXXII a game and see how they do.

Is the team/bowling fine?:) 7 bowlers? I'd like to see a fast leftie bowling (Boi) and he bowled OK today?? A green pitch, would you like to have a bowl or should it be pure pace attack?
__________________________________________________ ________

btw FAM, wat time is tomorrow's game scheduled to start?
Its a school day tomorrow btw:)

Come on Mohsin ive got best bowling average for team and you are questioning if i should bowl or not!!

I did brilliant today!!! :wasim :wasim :wasim

but if its a chance to see how the others are like i dont mind!!!

[Boi]

Thanks alot FAM for this PPL simulation tournemant!!!!

[Plasma]

My post from the other thread.



I think Geordie should be promoted to one down, he is in form. I will move to two down.

1.Graeme Smith (Opening batsman)
2. MCMLXXXII (Opening batsman)
3. Geordie Ahmed (wk) (Middle-order batsman)
4. Plasma(vc) (Middle-order batsman)
5. Andrew Symonds (Middle-order batsman)
6. Mohsin_Pak786 (c) (Bowling all-rounder)
7. Andrew Flintoff (Right arm fast bowler)
8. Boi (Left handed swing bowler, lower order batsman)
9. Veggito1 (Left arm fast bowler)
10. Goldbrain (Right arm fast bowler)
11. Dale Steyn (Fiery opening fast bowler)

1st Bowler: Dale Steyn
2nd Bowler:Andrew Flintoff
3rd Bowler: Mohsin_Pak786
4th Bowler: Plasma
5th Bowler: Veggito1 (2 overs)
6th Bowler: Goldbrain (2 overs)

and thats only 44 overs. How about we rest Steyn? His average is 35 while Boi's is 29?

Discuss.

[Boi]

I dont care if i dont play as long as we win and if u lot want to test the full squad out first then so it be i do not mind!!

[Geordie Ahmed]

I hope i can make another decent knock - its good to get in a run of form BUT the team comes first, a win is the priority

Go PANTHERS :batman: :batman:

[iZeeshan]

This is good fun. Seriously.

[Geordie Ahmed]

At first i was lost as to what this was BUT this is brilliant

[The Legend]

Hi guyz sorry for being late:(. I was admitted in hospital as my malaria was very severe. I am here from hospital via my laptop. This tournament is well going. I will be simulating the semi-finals and final. Please no body will simulate semi finals and finals.
That will be my job. Legend will be back ;). I will be discharged today evening.

[Legendary_Sage]

Legend.nice to have you here.wish you get well soon.

[FAM]

Get well soon Legend.

[FAM]

Since most people have questions about how I've allocated averages, this is how it's done (credits to The Blazer):

Batsmen: 35 batting average, 99 bowling average
Bowler: 15 batting average, 30 bowling average
Batting allrounder: 30 batting average, 40 bowling average
Bowling allrounder: 25 batting average, 35 bowling average

Means if you are a batsman and playing your first PPL match, then it's been assumed that you have already played a match in your career, and scored 35 runs, hence 35 average, and for example if you score 25 runs in the next match, then your average after 2 matches will become (35+25)/2=30.

Also, the above is for PP members only. International players' averages don't get affected after every match.

The max average for a batsman is 99, and the max average for a bowler is 80.

About the bowling orders: I have no control over the bowling orders. The simulator decides that, and I think it's doing a pretty good job. The simulator first choice seems to be the bowlers, who have less averages, unless they go for runs, so if you have more than 6 bowlers in your team, then it's likely that not everyone will get to bowl.

[iZeeshan]

What happens after round 2?

[FAM]

Same... Your second round score is added to your total runs and is divided by 3 to get your new average.

[iZeeshan]

So when do we have like quarterfinals or something.

Btw, next season, we should try and get more teams into this.

[FAM]

We only got 5 teams this time, so having semi finals will be a joke. I think we should just have best of 3 finals.

[SameerM]

FAM/Legend quick question...

My bowling average after 2 games is 83!!!

that means i must have leaked 90 runs in EACH of my two games.. which is not true!

Last game was 48 runs.. and 1 practice game 30 odd.. so my avg should be about 45.. not 83!!!

I think ur formula is a bit broken.. can u check? or is this the ICC final word ;-)

(i dont want to do an Akhtar, and take the PPL to court or anything - lets sort it internally!)

[FAM]

No, you leaked only 83 runs.

1) A practice game - 35 runs, 1 wicket. 35 average.
2) PPL match - 48 runs, no wicket, no average

Bowler average = Runs given/wickets taken = 48+35/1=83/1=83. I hope my math is correct. Never been good at it.

90 is the max, means if your bowling average gets greater than 90, for example 100, then it will be lowered to 90.

For example Geordie's batting average is 103, but the simulator only accepts digits from 1-99, so his average is 99.

[SameerM]

so u dont count the practice game? i'm sure u do otherwise my avg would be just 48!

no problem, just thought i'd check

[FAM]

Yes, I do count the practice game. =) Otherwise your average would have been infinity. lol.

[iZeeshan]

We only got 5 teams this time, so having semi finals will be a joke. I think we should just have best of 3 finals.
:)) Yes, I just realized that.

[Mohsin]

Match to start in 30 mins...................CANT WAIT!!:D

[Plasma]

Match to start in 30 mins...................CANT WAIT!!:D
Me neither!

[Geordie Ahmed]

20 mins to go - getting nervous now

A win here would be fantastic - would set us up nicely

GO PANTHERS :batman:

[Straight Bat]

Good luck guys

[FAM]

Just a note:
If I go poof = loadshedding. :P

[Mohsin]

Wat about the floodlights for the game? We haven't got generators to invest in, in the PPL!:D:P

[FAM]

:))

[Hari Sombar]

Good luck plasma and mohsin

5 mins to go

[Straight Bat]

5 mins to go, can we find out who won the toss?

Hari I hope you get a big 100 today!

[Mohsin]

Cheers Hari, u too!

[iZeeshan]

I love how everyone is enjoying this, even the mods.

Make them seem like they're human.

:P

[Geordie Ahmed]

I love how everyone is enjoying this, even the mods.

Make them seem like they're human.

:P

Ofcourse im enjoying it - we are kicking :butt

PANTHERS ARE AWESOME :batman:

[McBoom]

FAM what is the official starting time (in GMT) of tomorrow's match between Karachi Khanjars v Lahore Lightning Leopards ??

[FAM]

Hmm... I am not sure. I would be a bit busy tomorrow, but the match will happen. What time suits you guys?

[McBoom]

I think any time between 9 & 10 GMT would suit most of the players.

[FAM]

IMPORTANT EVERYONE!

From now on make sure that your team has at least 6 bowlers! No less than that, because I've noticed that the simulator never uses 5 bowlers, it always uses 6 with two bowlers with high averages sharing 5 overs each. Also in the few posts above, I said that the max average for a bowler will be 90, but I am lowering it to 80 (so SameerM you have 80 bowling average now), because anything above 80, and the simulator might not consider that bowler, and instead pick someone with 99 average, which would be a disaster. Good thing that I found this bug before simulating the next match, otherwise The Blazer's team would have got completely owned. :))

[Straight Bat]

FAM, the link to the multan averages and scorecard of the last match won't open!

[iZeeshan]

IMPORTANT EVERYONE!

From now on make sure that your team has at least 6 bowlers! No less than that, because I've noticed that the simulator never uses 5 bowlers, it always uses 6 with two bowlers with high averages sharing 5 overs each. Also in the few posts above, I said that the max average for a bowler will be 90, but I am lowering it to 80 (so SameerM you have 80 bowling average now), because anything above 80, and the simulator might not consider that bowler, and instead pick someone with 99 average, which would be a disaster. Good thing that I found this bug before simulating the next match, otherwise The Blazer's team would have got completely owned. :))
Oh man, now Sameer has to bowl

Only joking :P

[FAM]

Haha. No, your lineup is fine IZee. I've put SameerM's average 99, so he won't bowl in this match.

SB: It's working for me. Averages: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/Multan.txt Scorecard: http://faraz.frihost.net/ppl/r1m3s.TXT

[FAM]

Another important thing about the bowlers:

If you are confused how the simulator chooses bowlers, then the formula is simple: Whoever has the less bowling average will get to bowl first, unless he is a spinner. Spinners don't bowl with the new ball, I've noticed.

Example of Multan Mughals lineup:

Their Bowlers:
Savak
Bunty
Rauf
Tanvir
Wazeeri
Saj

The simulator will pick them in the following order:
1) Rauf (10 overs) (15 bowling average)
2) Sohail (10 overs) (29 bowling average)
3) Wazeeri/Savak (10 overs) (35 bowling average)
4) Wazeeri/Savak (10 overs) (35 bowling average)
5) Saj (53 bowling average)
6) Bunty (78 bowling average)

5th and 6th bowler will share the 10 overs among them.

[McBoom]

When will today's match start ? Or is it an off day ?

[FAM]

Sorry. I was just waiting for The Blazer to confirm the sixth bowling option. I didn't know you were vc, otherwise I would have started it, but we are already a day ahead of the schedule anyway, so no damage done. =)

The match will start at 6pm GMT today.

[McBoom]

Sorry. I was just waiting for The Blazer to confirm the sixth bowling option. I didn't know you were vc, otherwise I would have started it, but we are already a day ahead of the schedule anyway, so no damage done. =)

The match will start at 6pm GMT today.I am not the VC, no one is vice captain in our team so I claimed it pakistani style. ;-)

[Savak]

Do they list down bowling speeds? Any mention of the speeds generated?

[FAM]

No, it doesn't mention the speed. You can read the commentary files to see what it mentions and what it doesn't.

[The Blazer]

Imran as sixth bowler would be fine.

[iZeeshan]

SO, FAM...since we missed yeseterdays game, then are we going to do it today? And then todays game? Or just move the entire schedule one day ahead?

[FAM]

We are a day ahead already (did first 2 matches on the same day), and today is 25th, and according to the fixtures, your match is today, and the next match is tomorrow, so we are ok. :)

Match will start in 1 hour.

[Mohsin]

FAM, do you simulate the matches before hand or is it done at the time?:)

[FAM]

Before hand. :) So I can plan/write updates before hand too.

[iZeeshan]

Ok sweet. Sounds great.

[McBoom]

Before hand. :) So I can plan/write updates before hand too.Must say that you are a wonderful tournament organizer, you should work in PCB ! :dna

[Geordie Ahmed]

POINTS TABLE

Team Played Won Lost Tie Points NRR
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Punjab 2 2 0 0 4 +2.08
Karachi 2 1 1 0 2 +0.54
Rawalpindi 1 1 0 0 2 +0.22
Multan 1 0 1 0 0 -0.78
Lahore 2 0 2 0 0 -2.06


Ah thats not bad - i thought Karachi's run rate would be closer to ours

[iZeeshan]

What time is the game?

[Straight Bat]

FAM, by what time do you need Multan to confirm the line up tomorrow for the match? in GMT please.

[FAM]

iZee: Your match will start in an hour.

SB: Tomorrow before 12pm GMT please.

[iZeeshan]

Coolio!

[FAM]

Ok, this thing takes a lot of time of my day, specially writing updates, and yesterday there was no one supporting their teams, which was kinda disappointing, so I am not doing them anymore. But that's one reason. Another reason is that I am graduating soon, and will be moving out in a week or so, so I wouldn't have Internet access for a few days, so I was just thinking to finish this as soon as possible (2/3 matches a day). It doesn't take much time to simulate the match. Next time we can organize it better by including more people (if we are writing match updates), cuz it's hard for one person to do it every day.

So from now on, I will do it in a cricsim.com way, like I will post one innings at a certain time, and then you can discuss about the performances and stuff, and then I will post the second. And you can always read the crcsim commentary to entertain yourself.

[Saj]

FAM, what happened to user The Legend who was supposed to be running this and wanted a separate forum etc?

[FAM]

No idea, Saj. He was sick and in the hospital last time I heard.

[Saj]

Thanks for all the work you are putting in FAM. I agree that in the next competition we have, we should have a team of people working on it, like the Battrick league.

[The Blazer]

BTW Saj- You got owned by Mohammad Sami in the last match. :P

[Savak]

BTW Saj- You got owned by Mohammad Sami in the last match. :P

So did i. :6: I feel like banging my head on the wall.

[iZeeshan]

Its ok FAM, you did a great job with the effort so far, and I was also disappointed to see that no one was "coming" to the games.

Inning updates are completely fine.

[Legendary_Sage]

FAM you are putting a lot of effort in making this cricsim in to a success.Hats off to you man.I dont know why people are not coming and participating in the match threads.

[Saj]

BTW Saj- You got owned by Mohammad Sami in the last match. :P
Yes very true. After about 5 years he finally put in a decent performance :)

[FAM]

New rule:

If you don't post your team for your next match within 24 hours after my asking, then I will go ahead and select the same team that you played in the last match and play the match.

[iZeeshan]

That's a brilliant rule.

And again, FAM bhai, I want you to know, you are doing a terriffic job. I can simulate matches too, if you send me the file, so I don't have to redo squads. But how would i update averages or anything? If you can teach me, I am willing to do it.

[Plasma]

That's a brilliant rule.

And again, FAM bhai, I want you to know, you are doing a terriffic job. I can simulate matches too, if you send me the file, so I don't have to redo squads. But how would i update averages or anything? If you can teach me, I am willing to do it.
But the question is, are the rest of us willing to let you do it?

[FAM]

That's awesome! May be you can simulate round 2 matches, because I might go away for a few days, because of my moving out. :) I will send you complete details through a pm in a couple days.

[FAM]

lol Plasma.

[Straight Bat]

But the question is, are the rest of us willing to let you do it?

you asked the right question :))

[The Blazer]

Yeah, let Zeeshan do round two.

P.S. What happened to the net run rate?

[Straight Bat]

FAM, whats the deadline for submitting teams for the Multan Vs Karachi game? GMT please, thanks

[FAM]

The Blazer: I will do them if a need arises. I was doing them a wrong way earlier.

SB: I would appreciate it if you can send them before 12pm gmt tomorrow, but you got till 8pm gmt.

[Saj]

FAM, yar once again thanks for all your hard work in this.

If you do need any PMs forwarding to any of the captains then just send it onto one of the staff members :)

[FAM]

Saj bhai, it's every captain's responsibility to keep track of their team threads, and if someone doesn't have time to do that, but have time to look up the rest of the forum, then it means that that person is not interested, and I wouldn't bother sending pm to the person, who is not interested and holding things off for others. No offence to anyone, but I like punctuality, and any delays **** me off BIG TIME. :)

[iZeeshan]

Yes, but how long does it take to check the PP Leagues thread if you are on PakPassion anyway?

[Easa]

As I have mentioned in two other threads already, I was indeed on PakPassion for bits and pieces (just because I'm online doesn't mean I'm browsing the site) but I was oblivious to our upcoming fixture and thus never bothered to check the thread which is of course my mistake but a genuine, honest one at that.

[Saj]

well FAM has made it crystal clear that its each of the captains and vice captains responsibilities to keep an eye on the fixtures etc etc. :)

If any of the captains are going to be busy, then maybe they can delegate some of the work to their vice captains.

[FAM]

So the first round is done, and the tournament is going well, and it wouldn’t have been possible without all your support and appreciation. Thank you.

By now I am sure everyone has got an idea about how the cricsim works, and how they should go about selecting their teams. I will just post what I have learned about the simulator, and give some tips:

Batting:
It’s always better to open with your international players, because even if they get out cheaply, their averages will remain the same. Probability of getting out is higher when facing the new ball and good bowlers, and lower when facing the old ball and not so good bowlers, so if you want to increase someone’s average, then it’s better to send them at 5 or even lower. But that’s especially when you are playing on a normal or bowling track. On a flat track, it doesn’t make much difference.

Bowling:
Their must be 6 bowlers in the team as you know, because the simulator rarely picks only 5 bowlers. But sometimes it can go beyond the 6th bowling option and picks up one of your batsmen to bowl an over or two if the team desperately needs a wicket, and your main bowlers aren't helping much.

If you are playing on a flat pitch, then make sure that your bowlers don’t have an average of 80 or else they can go for a lot of runs!!!

Fast bowlers don’t take many wickets with the old ball, especially on flat and normal tracks, so it’s always good to have a spinner in your team.

[iZeeshan]

I don't think I can handle this.

I don't even know how to transfer scorecards, and have them in such neat order.

I am sorry, I volunteered too early. I really don't think I can do it.

[iZeeshan]

But the question is, are the rest of us willing to let you do it?
Screw you.

[Goldbrain]

Bowling:
Fast bowlers don’t take many wickets with the old ball, especially on flat and normal tracks, so it’s always good to have a spinner in your team.

I have taken 4 wicket in Punjab's second match giving only 25 runs, so It can't be right and rest of the 2 matches I have taken 5 more wickets :D
Remember I am RFM :P

[FAM]

Fast bowlers don’t take many wickets with the old ball, especially on flat and normal tracks, so it’s always good to have a spinner in your team.

You took those 4 wickets on a bowling track, and you bowled with the new ball in the other two matches. ;-)

[Goldbrain]

You took those 4 wickets on a bowling track, and you bowled with the new ball in the other two matches. ;-)

Damn: why you are so crul, let me enjoy my victories :P
Gooo Goldy Gooo

Wish I will be the most wicket taker in this tournament ;-)

[Legendary_Sage]

FAM our match will be today or tomorrow?

[FAM]

Tomorrow.

[The Blazer]

Brilliant stuff as always FAM. You said your workload was increasing, so I think it's only fair if Round Two duties are delegated to someone else. I'll try once again and see if this can work on Vista!

[FAM]

Let me know if it does. I have no problems simulating first few round 2 matches, but in a few days, I will be moving out.

[The Blazer]

If it doesn't work out on my laptop, I can always use the family computer which has XP. For team averages and such, do I just consult the text file from the Main Thread?

[FAM]

I will send you the files. Give me a day. I will pm you.

[The Blazer]

Bro, I've got the game working on the other computer. Just send me the files via my email address which you can view from my profile.

I'd be more than happy to start the Round Two matches immediately- And I have a few ideas on match presentation!

[The Blazer]

Just let me know when you want me to take over.

[FAM]

I will do two more, I guess. Expect my email sometime today.

[The Blazer]

I will do two more, I guess.
Well sure, if you want. I thought perhaps with the lack of detail in match threads these days, you were looking for a quick departure.

[FAM]

The lack of details have to do with the participation of people...

[FAM]

Anyways, I've emailed you. If you think you are ready to do Match 13, then let me know.

[The Blazer]

Yep, ready. I'll need some way to edit the Main Thread though to update the table!

[FAM]

I will do that. Don't worry. If I am not around, you can ask Saj or Geordie to do that.

[Mohsin]

Blaze you doing tomorrows game?

Wat time is the game gonna start?:)

[FAM]

And good luck! Can't wait to see your match presentations!

[FAM]

Yeah, Blazer is taking over, and I think he might do it today, since both captains have posted their teams.

[Mohsin]

Ah right cool!
Firstly a hearty thanks for your work so far, excellent stuff mate thanks!

Thanks Blaze and good luck mate!

[The Blazer]

Cheers Mohsin. Match will kick off at 20:00 BST tomorrow evening.

[Plasma]

Excellent stuff FAM!! You have done a lot, without even being asked for it. Appreciate it tremendously.

and good luck to Blazer, good luck with it.

[Legendary_Sage]

FAM you have done a wonderful job.Despite lack of participation from people you have maintained your hard work and standards.Thanks a lot.
Blazer thanks for coming forward and taking responsibility. best of luck dude.

[Legendary_Sage]

When is our match today?

[The Blazer]

Starts in 10 minutes.

[FAM]

=o *twitches*

[Monsee]

iZeeshan, Why does your signature shows myn average to be 405 and then the player averages link shows it at 99?

I also better get some dough soon or I am calling my agent :P

[FAM]

It shows 99, because that's the maximum number the simulator accepts. =)

[Monsee]

It shows 99, because that's the maximum number the simulator accepts. =)



That is fine but how did iZeeshan figured mine comes to 405 i.e. highest in the league by some distance :11:

[iZeeshan]

Well its gone down now, but you had a total of 405 runs before that match, and only got out once. Hence you had an average of 405.

Amazing going Monsee!

[Saj]

Guys is the league table in one of the threads?

[Straight Bat]

Yep it's on the first page of this thread, post #3

[Mohsin]

Whens the Karachi v Lahore match, is it tonight?:)

[iZeeshan]

Should be starting...

[Saj]

POINTS TABLE

Team Played Won Lost Tie Points NRR
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Karachi 5 4 1 0 8 -
Lahore 5 3 2 0 6 -
Punjab 6 3 3 0 6 -
Multan 5 2 3 0 4 -
Rawalpindi 5 1 4 0 2 -


Karachi leading the way then.

[iZeeshan]

And that isn't changing.

[The Blazer]

Match will be tomorrow at 20:00 BST.

[The Blazer]

And that isn't changing.
We'll see about that. :P

[iZeeshan]

Yes, we will.

[McBoom]

Match will be tomorrow at 20:00 BST.Its 21:27 BST right now and no match. :batman:

[iZeeshan]

Ah come on Blazer bhai!

Forget the exotic updates. Its definetely more important to get the games in!

[Legendary_Sage]

Why the matches are not happening any more?
I hope Blazer that you are in best of your health.

[FAM]

Blazer, zip your cricsim folder, and send it to me. I will continue. The tournament should have ended by now...

[Straight Bat]

It's the curse of cricsim...

[Saj]

FAM, I've PM'd you about Cricsim.

If you guys need any help this time around or in running any future tournaments let me know and one of the PP Staff can help out.

[Mohsin]

You don’t think the Karachi Kanjar's have kidnapped Blaze do you?

The panthers are on the prowl you kanjar's :batman: :batman:

:D:D

[iZeeshan]

Why would we kidnap Blazer? We need him to continue our games! Our players are getting very rusty. In fact, Monsee, just informed me that if we don't play soon, he's backing out! And a lot of players respect him so they may follow!

[FAM]

Alright, match 14 will be posted sometime today. No updates. I will just post the scorecard and commentary, because it's been delayed so much, but I will do the updates for the finals. Next season, we will manage it efficiently, and do the updates for all the matches.

iZee has already picked his team. There should be new captain for Lahore. imranahmed_khan bhai, if you can, please? For this match only I will pick the team that played in the last game, and the poor pitch, which was the pitch in the last home game for Lahore.

[Legendary_Sage]

FAM well done for coming forward and taking the responsibility.

[Vegitto1]

where is our match?

[Mohsin]

where is our match?

Providing the matches are actually played, our match is on Saturday against Lahore in that hugely imperative match!

So start getting those lassi's down you lad!:);-)

[Saj]

POINTS TABLE

Team Played Won Lost Tie Points NRR
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Karachi 6 4 2 0 8 -
Lahore 6 4 2 0 8 -
Punjab 6 3 3 0 6 -
Multan 5 2 3 0 4 -
Rawalpindi 5 1 4 0 2 -


Lahore join Karachi at the top of the table.

[McBoom]

Alright, match 14 will be posted sometime today. No updates. I will just post the scorecard and commentary, because it's been delayed so much, but I will do the updates for the finals. Next season, we will manage it efficiently, and do the updates for all the matches.

iZee has already picked his team. There should be new captain for Lahore. imranahmed_khan bhai, if you can, please? For this match only I will pick the team that played in the last game, and the poor pitch, which was the pitch in the last home game for Lahore.Yara sorry I was quite busy today and was not able to visit the website. If Blazer is not around then i'll be happy to take the responsibility in his absense.

[Mohsin]

Will out match be played today or tomorrow?:)

[FAM]

I am just playing them as I am getting the lineups. =) If Lahore post their team today, then it will be played today.

[Saj]

POINTS TABLE

Team Played Won Lost Tie Points NRR
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lahore 8 6 2 0 12 -
Karachi 7 5 2 0 10 -
Punjab 7 3 4 0 6 -
Multan 6 2 4 0 4 -
Rawalpindi 6 1 5 0 2 -

So with a few group matches still to be played, Lahore and Karachi have reached the finals. The rest still have pride to play for of course.

Congrats to both teams and best of luck for the finals.

[Straight Bat]

FAM, is the multan game going to be played today or tomorrow?

[FAM]

Depends on when Easa posts his lineup.

[Straight Bat]

FAM what are your thoughts?

As it seems the 5 current teams are keeping their owners, is there any chance of having a new franchise?

[FAM]

I will be posting in that thread in a few minutes.

[Straight Bat]

thanks

[iZeeshan]

Yea, we should deff have a new franchise. And SB, we need to have Easa and Blazer respond about their teams for the next season.

If they don't want it, then I am sure FAM or Hari or anyone that's really active would love to take control of them.

This is only fun if ALL the managers are active. I try to be active as much as possible. SB and Bunty are doing a good job. So is Mohsin. Dunno about the rest.

May imran can be the head captain of Lahore, and FAM of Rawalpindi?

[McBoom]

FAM have you updated the stats sheet after the 2nd final ?

[FAM]

Yup.

[Straight Bat]

Just wondering FAM, for intnl stars, do you use their Test or ODI averages?

[iZeeshan]

ODI, I checked.

[Straight Bat]

thanks

[Legendary_Sage]

Fam when a bowler start his season as new player.What is his bowling avg.
Same for middle order batsman about batting avg.

[iZeeshan]

Umm it goes like this

If you are a specialist bowler: your average is 30 bowling, 15 batting
if you are a specialist batsmen: your average is 99 bowling, 30 batting
Batting Allrounder: 30 batting, 40 bowling
Bowling allrounder: 25 batting, 35 bowling

[Legendary_Sage]

Izee i think you are getting it wrong.
Specialist batsman avg was high.

[Straight Bat]

I think it was 45 for specialist batsman

[McBoom]

No, I think it was 30 or 35 for a batsman.

[iZeeshan]

nope its was 35, my bad

[Legendary_Sage]

I think 35 is low avg for batsman as compare to avgs of batting allrounder with avg of 30 and 40.

[McBoom]

I think 35 is low avg for batsman as compare to avgs of batting allrounder with avg of 30 and 40.With 35 average we have had plenty of good batsmen in the 1st season who are averaging above 50 or even 100 right now so I think this shouldn't be a problem if one knows how to manage the squad properly.

[iZeeshan]

Yea, its fine. We're keeping everything the same as last time.

I mean look at Oxy, Monsee, PP, dblock...they all have averages over 70!

[iZeeshan]

Guys, I just realized, if a team is playing FIVE internationals at once, then 7 should certainly be allowed in the squad!

So therefore, I am proposing to increase the squad to 16, with 7 intl and 9 domestics.

[McBoom]

Guys, I just realized, if a team is playing FIVE internationals at once, then 7 should certainly be allowed in the squad!

So therefore, I am proposing to increase the squad to 16, with 7 intl and 9 domestics.Okay, 7 Intl. players it is then.

[pakistanbest]

guys could someone be kind enough to give me some quick info as to what this is all about please?

[McBoom]

guys could someone be kind enough to give me some quick info as to what this is all about please?http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=57818

[pakistanbest]

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=57818

thanks mate

so is it basically putting your name into a computer simulator and that will play it for u and decide who scores what, etc....?

[McBoom]

thanks mate

so is it basically putting your name into a computer simulator and that will play it for u and decide who scores what, etc....?Yup, performances are heavily dependent on the averages the players possess.

[FAM]

thanks mate

so is it basically putting your name into a computer simulator and that will play it for u and decide who scores what, etc....?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cricket_Simulator

In short, if your are a batsman, then scoring depends on your batting average, average of the bowler you are facing, pitch type, ball condition, and a random factor (luck).

[Straight Bat]

What was the minimum number of ODI games one has to paly for that average to be counted?

[Legendary_Sage]

I think it was 5 games.

[Legendary_Sage]

Does any 1 know how Fam calculates international players avg?

[Straight Bat]

uses the players ODI average

[Legendary_Sage]

After cricsim match.How he calculate avg.I mean like fawad and grant case they have played less matches so if they fail in cricsim match theire avg will affect more then experience players.What do u think sb?

[Straight Bat]

i think that would be ideal but it might be too much hard work and it could get too much for FAM to burden

[Legendary_Sage]

Can i choose domestic player who haven't made international debut?

[iZeeshan]

Yes, but the player must have played at least 10 List A Matches.

[pakistanbest]

when will the new season begin?

[SameerM]

so who won the current SEASON???? and where am i for the next season?

IZEE - have u sacked me or somthing?

[Straight Bat]

lahore won last season

izee released you, btw check the peshawar thread again

[iZeeshan]

SameerM, I had to sack you. Really sorry.

Your average had become crap, to say the least and you had also stopped being active, so I decided..ehh..

[Mohsin]

OK so the drafts should be done by tonight Insh'Allah if not early tomorrow, any ideas on when season 2 will start?:)

[McBoom]

OK so the drafts should be done by tonight Insh'Allah if not early tomorrow, any ideas on when season 2 will start?:)Depends on FAM.

[pakistanbest]

i really wish the new season starts within the next week or so

[Straight Bat]

Not seen FAM post for a while, is everything ok?

[Legendary_Sage]

I think he said that he will be busy with exam.

[Saj]

Guys who are the organisers this time around?

[iZeeshan]

FAM pretty much.

Worried though that he hasn't shown up/

[Legendary_Sage]

Saj in last season was a thought that we will add support staff from PP team for smooth running of the tournament.
Just like BT.
So is it possible this time around?
Does any 1 know anything about legend?
FAM is also away from scene.
We can also do one more thing that we can assign the managing role to different people on rotational basis.We can pick two or three ppl and then they can work on turn by turn base.Like 2 matches per person by turn on rotation.
What do you guys think?

[Legendary_Sage]

Saj in last season was a thought that we will add support staff from PP team for smooth running of the tournament.
Just like BT.
So is it possible this time around?
Does any 1 know anything about legend?
FAM is also away from scene.
We can also do one more thing that we can assign the managing role to different people on rotational basis.We can pick two or three ppl and then they can work on turn by turn base.Like 2 matches per person by turn on rotation.
What do you guys think?
No response and no suggestion from any one. :( :(

[Mohsin]

lol i didnt come online yesterday and though i might have missed some things.............suppose not!:))

Try and keep this thing alive guys, dont just leave it to dust in the back cupboard. Obviously if FAM is not available then no problemo, just let us know you are still OK with season 2 going on and you are active:)

[Saj]

I'll email FAM for you guys later today to see whats happening.

[Mohsin]

Yep much appreciated Saj, thanks:)

[Legendary_Sage]

We need this thing in the runing.I really feel bad the way things have gone so far.
SAJ plz bring some good news for cricsim lovers.

[Legendary_Sage]

I'll email FAM for you guys later today to see whats happening.
SAJ any update or response from FAM?

[Straight Bat]

whats the latest now?

[FAM]

Just logged in to say that I am around and concerned about running Season 2. I just need to settle down at new house and get new and decent Internet connection. Give me a few days. I won't disappear. Promise.

[Momo]

Just logged in to say that I am around and concerned about running Season 2. I just need to settle down at new house and get new and decent Internet connection. Give me a few days. I won't disappear. Promise.

Such? Dekho apna waada bhoolna naheen!
Yaad rakhna koi intezaar kar raha hai.

[iZeeshan]

Its fine, we're waiting on Easa anyway.

Actually, I think I am taking Easa out of duties. He hasn't published his Final squad, and I've told him about it. He NEVER checks anything. Haven't made a final decision yet, but I think FAM will be the new captain of Rawalpindi.

[Mohsin]

If by the time FAM starts proceedings (starts to become active for the tourny etc) Easa is still not paying any attention, then i'm afraid he will have to be demoted.
Like Zee said, FAM can become captain

[Goldbrain]

Come on everyone lets start the cup, can't wait to bowl and get my first 5 wickets:D

[Mohsin]

Nothing yet?:)

[iZeeshan]

PPL is dying :(

[Momo]

PPL is dying :(

"Doctor saahab, PPL ko bacha leejiye."

"Ab dawa ki naheen, dua ki zaroorat hai."
:)

[pakistanbest]

PPL is dying :(

just when i started to get to know the rules properly and was really eager for the start of season 2 :(

[Saj]

PPL is dying :(
you saw my post regarding FAM and that he is busy at the moment.

Be patient.

[McBoom]

Geez, you guyz are a bunch of impatient teenagers. Go play with your Wii and txt sum frnds. :P

Have patience, Sabar ka phal meetha !

[Easa]

I posted my ***squad***

Ready for some "defeats" this season, guys? :127:

[iZeeshan]

Who are you?

[Plasma]

Easa! :)) :)))

[iZeeshan]

:))) :)) Just realized that too!

[Mohsin]

:))):)) Seriously 'vigilante' change it back yaar! I saw one of your posts and had no idea who you were! I saw that you were a living legend, and felt completely confused at you being such an experienced poster, yet me not remembering your name!:))

I prefer Easa man, nice and simple!

[Goldbrain]

:))):)) Seriously 'vigilante' change it back yaar! I saw one of your posts and had no idea who you were! I saw that you were a living legend, and felt completely confused at you being such an experienced poster, yet me not remembering your name!:))

I prefer Easa man, nice and simple!


100% Agreed :D

[Boi]

:))):)) Seriously 'vigilante' change it back yaar! I saw one of your posts and had no idea who you were! I saw that you were a living legend, and felt completely confused at you being such an experienced poster, yet me not remembering your name!:))

I prefer Easa man, nice and simple!

SAME THING HERE!!

I WAS LIKE HEH I HAVENT SEEN THIS GUY POST BEFORE AND THEN I WENT DOWN THE THREAD WHICH 'VIGILANTE' HAD WRITTEN AN ARTICLE ON AND IT SAYS WELL WRITTEN EASA THEN I FOUND IT HE HAS CHANGED HIS USER NAME!!!!!

CHANGE IT BACK TO EASA NICE AND SIMPLE!

[iZeeshan]

Why all caps?

[Boi]

Why all caps?

I dont know why that happened i had not switched on capital letters and when i wrote it it was lower case aswell but when it went through its all Capital letters!!

[FAM]

Around. Around. I am shifting my PC to my new house tomorrow, and get the Internet connection on Monday, so the tournament will hopefully start next week.

[Legendary_Sage]

Cheers FAM.Good News for all of us.

[pakistanbest]

thank u FAM. excellent news

[McBoom]

Take your time FAM, we are not going anywere. :)

[Boi]

What time is Tournament starting today?

Whos playing?

[pakistanbest]

we are still waiting for FAM and FAM mate take ur time, most of us lot can wait for a bit

[FAM]

Okay back fully. Expect something tomorrow. =)

[Straight Bat]

glad to have you back, hope everything with the home changing etc went well.

anyway, look forward to the news tomorrow!

[pakistanbest]

FAM, look forward to tomorrow and hope eveything went well with the house change

[FAM]

First page is updated with new fixtures and other info. All you managers make a new post in your threads with your players and their positions if you haven't done so already.

[Mohsin]

Welcome back FAM bhai!

[Mohsin]

PPL Season 2 Preview

G’day and welcome to the preview of what i'm sure in going to be another great season in the PPL! My name is Tony Grieg, and alongside me are two of the great’s Wasim Akram and Ian Chappell.

http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpg Well there has been an addition to number of teams competing this season with the Peshawar Princes joining the 5 other teams so a warm welcome to Peshawar and Peshawar’s manager, the former Multan manager funnily enough, Mr Straight Bat.
Wasim first of all yourself, who do you think is the team to watch out for this season and why?

http://www.outlookindia.com/images/akram_thumb_030210.jpg Well Tony, obviously you have last season’s champions, Lahore Leapords who funnily enough have also had a managerial change, from Mr Blazer to Mr Imranahmed_khan. They played suberb cricket last season to go all the way, especially in the final where they blew away Karachi with some phenomenal performances.
Saying that, I think in terms of new signings, you have to look at Punjab Panthers. I mean they had a good squad last season but after a wonderful start in the first round, the completely fell apart in round 2 which really cost them. During the close season a few players were bought in, which I think will really bring a heck of a lot to the Punjab team.

http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpgOK Wasim, so Lahore, the defending champions and Punjab. Ian, if you were a betting man who would your money be on and why?

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/img/2006/ep28/chappell03.jpg Well Tony, as you know I’m not a betting man (little chuckle) but the team i would back is Karachi all the way. The way they performed last season was especially excellent with a couple of stand out performances, especially Monsee who averaged a whopping 405! HE IS the player to watch out for this season, definitely top batsman of PPL along with Goldbrain and Viggito of Punjab Panthers as PPL’s top bowlers.

http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpgJeez-lewease, so Wasim the teams for you are Lahore and Punjab and Ian the team to back is Karachi. Interesting! Well I have to say, we must keep an eye on Multan and Rawalpindi. Both teams have done some serious shopping during the off season and will definitely be looking dangerous and rejuvenated this time around. As for the new comers Peshawar, it’s kind of tough in regards to them. They are a new team with new players but wow, what a bunch of players! You’ve got the Zulu himself, Lance Klusener making his PPL bow as well as the spin wizard himself, Saqlain Mushtaq! No doubt we’ll be seeing plenty of sixes and Doosra’s!
So fella’s we’re running out of time, are there anymore new international signing’s you’re looking forward to seeing this season?

http://www.outlookindia.com/images/akram_thumb_030210.jpgWell Tony just the one for me, and that is Ajanta Mendis, and just can’t wait for the magic he’ll be weaving upon the opposition batsman, it really is mouth watering!

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/img/2006/ep28/chappell03.jpgWell actually for me it has to be a person who isn’t that entirely well known mind you, but seems to have quite a lot of potential, Mudassar Bukhari. I haven’t seen much of him to be honest, but he may well turn out to be a surprise package for the opposition.

http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpgWasim, Ian thanks to both of you for your thoughts, much appreciated.
Well folks, there you have it, a little taste to what to expect and look forward to in the coming season, I hope you’ll all join us throughout the season.
The first match in in August 12th at Gaddafi stadium, Lahore with last years finalists Karachi, battling it out in the curtain raiser, so watch that but until then it’s a goodbye from Wasim, Ian and myself.

[pakistanbest]

^^^great preview, Mohsin mate, very well written

[Straight Bat]

great stuff Mohsin, enjoyed that a lot!

[iZeeshan]

First page is updated with new fixtures and other info. All you managers make a new post in your threads with your players and their positions if you haven't done so already.
FAM, all positions are in the Final Squads thread...and the PPL Announcement thing.

Not sure about the allrounders though, that might be a little hard to sort out, but purebreds are easy.

[iZeeshan]

FAM, averages are being reset?

I don't think that was the plan?

[McBoom]

Hey where did the averages files go ?

[Mohsin]

So tomorrow's the big day, cant wait!:D

[iZeeshan]

Hey where did the averages files go ?
He's prolly just resetting the squads and such, I really hope they're not being reset. I'd hate to lose my middle order's combined average of 256!

[McBoom]

He's prolly just resetting the squads and such, I really hope they're not being reset. I'd hate to lose my middle order's combined average of 256!Wait till you face Akhtar, Lee & Bond. It would be reduced to 25 for 6! :P

Well yeah the averages from the last season must be carried or else there is no point. I'd do a one man riot!

[Mohsin]

Lahore vs Karachi Game 1
Match Preview


http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpg G’day, I’m Tony Greig and welcome to the preview of the very first match of PPL season 2. It’ll be taking place between both finalists of the inaugural tournament, Lahore Leopards and Karachi Kanjars so no doubt a top class contest in store for viewers. Alongside myself to have a look at this mouth watering clash are two cricketing heavyweights themselves, Waqar Younis and Dean Jones.

Well then, lets have a look at the past records between these 2 teams. Altogether they’ve played 4 games with Lahore coming out on top winning a whopping 3 with Karachi’s lone win coming during the group stages, so Karachi will be looking for revenge straight away this season, with Lahore looking to better that record and maintain their dominance over Karachi.
So Waqar you must be looking forward to this season, new teams, new expectations and a fair few new players too!


http://www.rediff.com/wc2003/2002/nov/19tig.gif Well Tony, definitely i mean the inaugural edition was axcellent with quite a few close matches, just a shame that in the finals Karachi didn’t turn up at all. Saying that, i’m quite sure Karachi will be looking to go all the way this time around and to be honoest I see no reason why not. They’re not the strongest team in terms of big names on paper, but they play their cricket with no fear what so ever and of course, when you’ve got a player like Mosee paa jee scoring runs almost at will you know you’ve got some batting firepower!

http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpgI see, well Deano first of all welcome back nice to have you here! Waqar’s saying that Karachi is the team for tomorrow’s game, what about you, do you agree?

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/11/30/th_jones_dean_index-thumb__60x40,0.jpg Hah!! I think Waqar’s been at it again I mean just look at their records against Lahore! Lahore have come to be the dominating side over and over again and I see no reason what so ever why that wont be the case once again tomorrow. I mean, jeez-leweez just have a look at their performances last season, they didn’t get off to a flying start but the slowly and more importantly at the right time, pushed on and did their job. What was the result? Winning those important crunch games, those pressure games when it really mattered and because of that late winning streak, they could use the momentum in the final to blow away the opposite, which they did!!!!! And talking of pressure, just look at how Karachi dealt with the pressure last season……….HAH!! Wilted like a pack of cards, to be honest at times Lahore played cricket like Pakistan. Ruthless, brave and explosive! The only similarity between Karachi and the Pakistan national team? PRESSURE! They both can’t play under pressure, and I sure hope for their sake that they would have addressed these pressure issues, or else………its one heck of a pounding for Karachi! Forget Karachi Kanjars, everyone’ll say Karachi COWARDS of they continue like they did last season!!!!!!!!!!!

http://img.cricinfo.com/awards-tonygrieg_50x50.jpgWOW! Deano really laying into Karachi there, giving them no chance what so ever! (Deano interrupts) They’re useless Waqar, USELESS!
(back to TG) OK Deano, you’ve had your say, ha ha ha.
Waqar, Deano are there any player we should especially look forward to seeing tomorrow?

http://www.rediff.com/wc2003/2002/nov/19tig.gifWell i’m glad you asked that Tony, i mean i mentioned him before and i’ll mention him again, Monsee! This man is a legend, average a phenomenal 405 in the first season and no doubt he’ll be looking for more runs this season. He’s Karachi’s main key, if he fires then the rest can fire. I suppose he’s the Inzi of the team, the rest will be looking to him and looking to bat around him. BUT it Lahore get him early, then who knows.
In regards to international players, to be honest I don’t see any special stand out performers in there. You’ve maybe got Murali, maybe he’ll be able to wave his wand but I doubt it.