Shoaib files petition against ban

[ehjaz]

Shoaib Akhtar has filed a writ petition in the Lahore High Court seeking to overturn the original five-year ban imposed on him by the Pakistan board that was later reduced to 18 months by an appellate tribunal.

Even though Shoaib's ban was reduced after an appeal, he wasn't happy with the tribunal's decision. "I want to play for Pakistan as soon as possible," Shoaib told PTI. "I was disappointed with the tribunal's decision on my appeal."

"We feel the decision of the PCB in the first place to ban him for five years was illegal and unjustified," Abid Hasan Minto, Shoaib's legal counsel, said. "We believe he is being prevented from playing cricket for his country by an illegal decision of the board. The ban itself is very harsh. We are contesting the entire ban."

Nasim Ashraf, the Pakistan board chairman, had said Shoaib was free to appeal in court. "That is his decision to make," Ashraf had said. "The tribunal's verdict has nothing to do with the PCB. I can't overturn the reduced ban on him. The decision made by Justice Aftab Farrukh is final and it can only be challenged in the court."

Shoaib was banned for five years in April by a disciplinary committee of the PCB for violating the players' code of conduct after he was charged with publicly criticising the board for offering him a retainership instead of a contract. The ban prevented him from playing in the IPL until it was suspended for one month which facilitated Shoaib's participation in the Twenty20 tournament.

Shoaib appealed against the five-year ban and it was reduced to 18 months along with a fine of Rs 7 million (approximately $105,000) by a PCB-appointed appellate tribunal, headed by Justice (retd) Aftab Farrukh, on June 14.

© Cricinfo

[Pak_mystery]

C'mon pcb overturn the bloody ban and let him play...

[Mohsin]

^^i can garentee you 100% that Shoaib's ban will be overturned (taking into account our state at the moment)

Why am i not excited?



















He'll get injured after 2 overs, thats why!

[12thMan]

This ban means more than playing for Pakistan national team. It also affects IPL etc so he might not play for Pakistan or just used by Paksitan when needed but he will be able to do other things

[Savak]

^^i can garentee you 100% that Shoaib's ban will be overturned (taking into account our state at the moment)

Why am i not excited?



















He'll get injured after 2 overs, thats why!

Give it a rest will you. Injured, Injured, Injured. Umar Gul also got injured for the 4rth time in a matter of 8 months even though he has had plenty of rest. Even Asif is also injury prone. We cant keep our best bowlers out due to fear of injury all the time. We need them back. Period

[Inswinger]

Give it a rest will you. Injured, Injured, Injured. Umar Gul also got injured for the 4rth time in a matter of 8 months even though he has had plenty of rest. Even Asif is also injury prone. We cant keep our best bowlers out due to fear of injury all the time. We need them back. Period
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We need him back to revive out bowling attack before its too late. I would even have Sami back before turning to guys like Rao.

[Mohsin]

Give it a rest will you. Injured, Injured, Injured. Umar Gul also got injured for the 4rth time in a matter of 8 months even though he has had plenty of rest. Even Asif is also injury prone. We cant keep our best bowlers out due to fear of injury all the time. We need them back. Period

Dont get me wrong, i'd love to see him comeback. WE NEED HIM!

But c'mon man, every time he comes back there's some kind of injury. The guy's banned for 4/5 months (plenty of time to get fully fit)............he gets injured. At least Gul plays cricket for a solid amount of time before getting injured (also take into account the injury itself, a stress fracture in his back! You dont come back to cricket 100% fit no problem after that mate)
Akhtar gets injured because of the unnecessary weight he is carrying.

But i do want him back, we need him at the moment and i'll love it if he proves me wrong abut the injury!!

[Savak]

Dont get me wrong, i'd love to see him comeback. WE NEED HIM!

But c'mon man, every time he comes back there's some kind of injury. The guy's banned for 4/5 months (plenty of time to get fully fit)............he gets injured. At least Gul plays cricket for a solid amount of time before getting injured (also take into account the injury itself, a stress fracture in his back! You dont come back to cricket 100% fit no problem after that mate)
Akhtar gets injured because of the unnecessary weight he is carrying.

But i do want him back, we need him at the moment and i'll love it if he proves me wrong abut the injury!!

All i can implore you to do is keep faith, If Akhtar is allowed to play cricket like Gul is for a consistent period of time, his fitness, stamina, rhythem and bowling speeds will get better.

[Plasma]

Pakistan cricket is lifeless without Shoaib. It is suicidal, dumb, and unjust to keep him out of the team. We should somehow over turn the PCB and create a new cricket Board.

[Pak_mystery]

Havnt seen batsmen getting broken heads and toes for a while now..bring back shoaib!

[cars112]

Pakistan cricket is lifeless without Shoaib. It is suicidal, dumb, and unjust to keep him out of the team. We should somehow over turn the PCB and create a new cricket Board.

Shoaib Akhtar needs to be playing for Pakistan - no ifs and buts about it. Get him back in the side. Why, forget Pakistan, the global game is being undermined by the forced removal of the quickest man on this planet.

[pakistanbest]

bring back SHOAIB AKHTAR AND M. ASIF ASAP our team is looking worse than bangladesh with our bowling and currently no bowler from our team would go in to an asia XI let alone a world XI. we need them two back with gul, pakistan cricket since the T20 world cup has been appaling and has very much dented my confidence which i had in the team but Insh'allah this will soon change under a new cpatain and coach and with the arrivals of akhtar and asif and also raazaq as we miss his big hitting and economical mid-innings bowling

[Atif]

cant for the guy to return in pakistan colours again, without him and asif in team we just aint strong enough

[Savak]

Good to see some sensible posts in a thread regarding Shoaib Akhtar for a change. Sad it took such a pathetic Pakistani bowling attack of 76-77 mph speedsters to make everyone aware of the ground realities. This ban has just been a waste of everyone's time including Akhtar's, he could have played those zimbabwe, Bangladesh ODI's, matches of IPL and could have gained some match fitness by now, but no DNA just loves to play musical chairs. I am all in favor of lifting the ban on Akhtar but he must not be rushed into the side like he was in the past, Akhtar must for god sakes, train, excercise, play as much domestic cricket as possible and only then come back into the national team after having done all this (hoping the ban is lifted ofcourse).

[lollol]

I just hope WHEN he comes back, he can actually bowl more than 4 overs..

When he played in IPL, i tought he would be able to prove that he can bowl these pathetic 4 overs. But even that was too much for him.

[W63L35]

Akhtar must for god sakes, train, excercise, play as much domestic cricket as possible and only then come back into the national team after having done all this (hoping the ban is lifted ofcourse).

What are the chances of that happening - even if the ban was lifted?

[KB]

Shoaib is more hassle than he is worth now. He is not in the first flush of youth and is unlikely to have the fitness to complete many Tests. So his disruptive influence is simply not worth the bother.

Yes, he bowled some magnificent and influential spells in his prime. I won't forget that stunning effort at Colombo when he ripped through Australia with one of the greatest spells ever witnessed. But it is time to move on and leave the megalomaniac to find pastures new.

[161]

what do we need shoaib for ... aren't we doing just fantastic without him ?

[Savak]

What are the chances of that happening - even if the ban was lifted?

I hope he does it if he is serious about his final years.

[Zeenix]

Let me find out the judge's name..

It will indeed be a black day in Pakistani cricket if he gets exonerated. Lets hope it takes a usual 5 years to complete the hearings and another 3 for the judgment. Add 10 more years for the appeal in Supreme Court.

I hope that His Honor decides on reason..

[Savak]

Let me find out the judge's name..

It will indeed be a black day in Pakistani cricket if he gets exonerated. Lets hope it takes a usual 5 years to complete the hearings and another 3 for the judgment. Add 10 more years for the appeal in Supreme Court.

I hope that His Honor decides on reason..

Nope its has been a black day for Pakistani Cricket ever since he got banned, its been a black day since we have 77-78 mph bowlers opening the bowling for Pakistan, its been a black day since we punished Akhtar for his poor fitness by dropping him from the team, central contracts while promoting equally injury prone Asif and Gul to central contracts, it is and it will continue to be a black day for Pakistani cricket when guys like you are willing to see Pakistan lose for the foreseeable future and to see us with a pathetic, girly bowling attack just because your eternal, unwavering and biased hatred towards the best bowler in the country. Inshallah His Honor will exonerate him and also order DNA to pay Akhtar in damages for wastage of time and orders DNA to stay clear of Akhtar and not to go on a witch hunt against him. Knowing the beautiful legal system in our beautiful country, i have no doubts Justice will be served and Akhtar will be back.

[Zeenix]

Nope its has been a black day for Pakistani Cricket ever since he got banned, its been a black day since we have 77-78 mph bowlers opening the bowling for Pakistan, its been a black day since we punished Akhtar for his poor fitness by dropping him from the team, central contracts while promoting equally injury prone Asif and Gul to central contracts, it is and it will continue to be a black day for Pakistani cricket when guys like you are willing to see Pakistan lose for the foreseeable future and to see us with a pathetic, girly bowling attack just because your eternal, unwavering and biased hatred towards the best bowler in the country. Inshallah His Honor will exonerate him and also order DNA to pay Akhtar in damages for wastage of time and orders DNA to stay clear of Akhtar and not to go on a witch hunt against him. Knowing the beautiful legal system in our beautiful country, i have no doubts Justice will be served and Akhtar will be back.

Emotional are we. Ever thought there is a reason behind the "So called hatred".. Ever pondered on those reasons.. No....

[Savak]

Emotional are we. Ever thought there is a reason behind the "So called hatred".. Ever pondered on those reasons.. No....

I just wish i knew, why cant people just keep it all aside and just let him play and just let him take wickets and make Pakistan win in the end. Why do we have to stop him from doing that? i admit the bat hitting incident was Shoaib's mistake and he has to blame himself for that but every other problem after that was just all caused by the PCB and it is the PCB which has wasted his time and prevented him from playing. I just wish i knew why so much hatred?

[Zeenix]

I just wish i knew, why cant people just keep it all aside and just let him play and just let him take wickets and make Pakistan win in the end. Why do we have to stop him from doing that? i admit the bat hitting incident was Shoaib's mistake and he has to blame himself for that but every other problem after that was just all caused by the PCB and it is the PCB which has wasted his time and prevented him from playing. I just wish i knew why so much hatred?

Who the hell is stopping him from that.. Care to tell.. Are the fans stopping him or is his character, his attitude, his living in a state of denial, his self-phobia, his off the field antics are standing in his way..

Did we ask him

to hit Asif..

to consult a dodgy Hakeem

him to give an undertaking

to hit Woolmer

to violate team discipline

to be perpetually injured.

[Savak]

Who the hell is stopping him from that.. Care to tell.. Are the fans stopping him or is his character, his attitude, his living in a state of denial, his self-phobia, his off the field antics are standing in his way..

Did we ask him

to hit Asif..

to consult a dodgy Hakeem

him to give an undertaking

to hit Woolmer

to violate team discipline

to be perpetually injured.

Nope but you sure supported the PCB decision to give him this ban even though it was totally unjust when he could still be playing out there. You and i know about our country and how many people follow the rules, regulations, procedures, codes of conduct, blah blah, When did he slap and hit Woolmer please explain? Asif case is done over with, both have made up, only Akhtar and Afridi need to make up now? Injuries come under discipline? In that case Flintoff is the most undisciplined player in the world. Injuries are part and parcel of fast express bowling, violating team discipline is not such a big deal in a country like Pakistan, the main aim should be get him on the field, not go on a witchhunt against him to satisfy our egos, this is where Tauqir Zia excelled in comparison to everyone else.

[Zeenix]

Nope but you sure supported the PCB decision to give him this ban even though it was totally unjust when he could still be playing out there. You and i know about our country and how many people follow the rules, regulations, procedures, codes of conduct, blah blah, When did he slap and hit Woolmer please explain? Asif case is done over with, both have made up, only Akhtar and Afridi need to make up now? Injuries come under discipline? In that case Flintoff is the most undisciplined player in the world. Injuries are part and parcel of fast express bowling, violating team discipline is not such a big deal in a country like Pakistan, the main aim should be get him on the field, not go on a witchhunt against him to satisfy our egos, this is where Tauqir Zia excelled in comparison to everyone else.

Ok.. it was a push..

Unjust, care to tell me... how.. My employer is going to kick me out if i speak against them in the Media, without any explanation.. Not only this, i'd find myself landed in Jail.. He should consider himself lucky that DNA (on political pressure) took back the defamation case otherwise he would have been screwed for good..

[iZeeshan]

All i can implore you to do is keep faith, If Akhtar is allowed to play cricket like Gul is for a consistent period of time, his fitness, stamina, rhythem and bowling speeds will get better.
What do you mean? No one was stopping him from playing the IPL games...he himself died out.

[Zeenix]

What do you mean? No one was stopping him from playing the IPL games...he himself died out.

You don't understand, He isn't fit enough to play 20-20, but yet he is fit enough to play Test Cricket..

[Savak]

Ok.. it was a push..

Unjust, care to tell me... how.. My employer is going to kick me out if i speak against them in the Media, without any explanation.. Not only this, i'd find myself landed in Jail.. He should consider himself lucky that DNA (on political pressure) took back the defamation case otherwise he would have been screwed for good..

I am sure there is a lot more to what really happened. Its funny really how he wasnt even willing to accept an appology from Shoaib and was hell bent on seeing him in court. Then we see the two in a meeting with Rehman Malik the interior minister and PPP strongman, DNA withdraws suit against Akhtar. Now Sarfraz says DNA promised Rehman that Akhtar will be allowed to return to the team. Now what prompted DNA to withdraw a really powerful case against Shoaib when he wasnt willing to even accept Akhtar's apology. No smoke without fire guys, DNA in my view is not above board, we will only hear of his transgressions as soon as Mushy is out and DNA leaves PCB.

The PCB is a public organization, the public has every right to know what goes on in the PCB. Akhtar has every right to criticize the PCB in the media especially if the PCB pays no heed to its cricketers and their concerns and impose their policies on them. Too bad but this media thing is not even a charge, ludicrious charge and deserved no penalty.

As far as the push thing is concered, Woolmer never mentioned it. He never spoke of it, if Shoaib indeed ever slapped or pushed Woolmer do you think Woolmer would have accepted it and taken it face down? No he would have resigned and protested. But he didnt thus these are all rumours nothing else.

[Savak]

You don't understand, He isn't fit enough to play 20-20, but yet he is fit enough to play Test Cricket..

He deserves every chance to play for Pakistan and you all know he hadnt had any match practice for the last 2-3 months before the IPL thanks to the PCB witch hunt and ban.

[siddharth]

He deserves every chance to play for Pakistan and you all know he hadnt had any match practice for the last 2-3 months before the IPL thanks to the PCB witch hunt and ban.
why didn't he play in pentangular cup before that ?

[Savak]

why didn't he play in pentangular cup before that ?

He did, then he criticized the PCB for preparing a third class, pathetic, doormat of a wicket for his match and then next day the Islamabad Cricket Association banned him from the team and his further participation in the Pentangular cup (bet under pressure from the PCB and DNA).

[siddharth]

He did, then he criticized the PCB for preparing a third class, pathetic, doormat of a wicket for his match and then next day the Islamabad Cricket Association banned him from the team and his further participation in the Pentangular cup (bet under pressure from the PCB and DNA).
How many matches he played?

[Zeenix]

I am sure there is a lot more to what really happened. Its funny really how he wasnt even willing to accept an appology from Shoaib and was hell bent on seeing him in court. Then we see they two in a meeting with Rehman Malik the interior minister and PPP strongman, DNA withdraws suit against Akhtar. Now Sarfraz says DNA promised Rehman that Akhtar will be allowed to return to the team. Now what prompted DNA to withdraw a really powerful case against Shoaib when he wasnt willing to even accept Akhtar's apology. No smoke without fire guys, DNA in my view is not above board, we will only hear of his transgressions as soon as Mushy is out and DNA leaves PCB.


So you believe in sarfaraz now.. Good going.. If DNA is bad does that automatically exonerate Akhtar.. What logic..



The PCB is a public organization, the public has every right to know what goes on in the PCB. Akhtar has every right to criticize the PCB in the media especially if the PCB pays no heed to its cricketers and their concerns and impose their policies on them. Too bad but this media thing is not even a charge, ludicrious charge and deserved no penalty.



Sorry this is ridiculous. I am in a public sector organization. Does that mean, i can pretty much sprout all types of rubbish i can.. No sire, i will find my **** cartwheeled to the prision.


As far as the push thing is concered, Woolmer never mentioned it. He never spoke of it, if Shoaib indeed ever slapped or pushed Woolmer do you think Woolmer would have accepted it and taken it face down? No he would have resigned and protested. But he didnt thus these are all rumours nothing else.

Well there was a good video on it. If you call that rumour then what would be fact then..

[Zeenix]

He deserves every chance to play for Pakistan and you all know he hadnt had any match practice for the last 2-3 months before the IPL thanks to the PCB witch hunt and ban.

Good, PCB fault really that he being a sportsman forgot his basic duty i.e to keep himself fit, and despite the fact that he was wailing and pleading to be released to ICL, he didn't keep himself fit.. Probably he thought ICL was all about Cheer leaders.. and getting hugged by those Indian actresses..

[Savak]

So you believe in sarfaraz now.. Good going.. If DNA is bad does that automatically exonerate Akhtar.. What logic..

No smoke without fire as always. If DNA is bad, he is a hypocrite and has no right to be making moral and disciplinary judgements on others sorry but thats how it is. This was a decision filled with a personal grudge all over it. Its not just Akhtar, the way DNA went out of his way to get Yousaf back from the ICL even when Yousaf signed a contract with the ICL people, but should no concern for Razzaq and treated him like a toilet paper. This man has no principles sorry and is just another nepostic administrator, probably the worst since the last decade.


Sorry this is ridiculous. I am in a public sector organization. Does that mean, i can pretty much sprout all types of rubbish i can.. No sire, i will find my **** cartwheeled to the prision.

Prison for talking to the media? Did Akhtar reveal corporate secrets? Deals? Figures? Confidential info? No he rightfully criticized the PCB authorities for preparing a pathetic pitch with nothing in it for fast bowlers and a pitch where some one like Butt scores 300 must have nothing in it for the bowlers. Akhtar wasnt even a centraly contracted players and any PCB regulations with regards to the players talking to the media about not talking to the press did not even apply to him (technical point). Anyways dont agree with this crap about players beeing kept mum forcefully by their boards, if there is something wrong with the cricketing affairs, the senior players have every right to criticize the board and we all know how the PCB listens to its cricketers so for them to talk to the PCB is like talking to a wall. This is Pakistan not the West, this is how our cricket has always been and no one has ever in the past been fined, baned for talking to the media with exception to match fixing whistleblowing and what Akhtar said was neither wrong nor did it put the PCB at any risk whatsoever.

Well there was a good video on it. If you call that rumour then what would be fact then..

I have even seen the video, and the video clearly showed they were joking and messing around. The slapping incident was a rumor, just think of it Akhtar hits Asif with a bat and is called back. But Akhtar slaps Woolmer, pushes Woolmer yet nothing happens to him. Thus none of that ever really happened. Period.

[Savak]

Good, PCB fault really that he being a sportsman forgot his basic duty i.e to keep himself fit, and despite the fact that he was wailing and pleading to be released to ICL, he didn't keep himself fit.. Probably he thought ICL was all about Cheer leaders.. and getting hugged by those Indian actresses..

There is no substitute for match practice. You can do all the excercising, weight training, running but it is in real match conditions when the pressure is on and you have to run in and bowl accordingly. He didnt have that, no fault of his own, all thanks to this ludicrous PCB ban.

[Zeenix]

No smoke without fire as always. If DNA is bad, he is a hypocrite and has no right to be making moral and disciplinary judgements on others sorry but thats how it is. This was a decision filled with a personal grudge all over it. Its not just Akhtar, the way DNA went out of his way to get Yousaf back from the ICL even when Yousaf signed a contract with the ICL people, but should no concern for Razzaq and treated him like a toilet paper. This man has no principles sorry and is just another nepostic administrator, probably the worst since the last decade.



Again, if DNA is all evil, does that exonerate Akhtar.. This is what you would want to believe. Razzaq and Yousuf are alltogether a different matter, Start another thread on it and i'll respond there.. Don't try to compare Fresh Apples to Rotten oranges..



Prison for talking to the media? Did Akhtar reveal corporate secrets? Deals? Figures? Confidential info? No he rightfully criticized the PCB authorities for preparing a pathetic pitch with nothing in it for fast bowlers and a pitch where some one like Butt scores 300 must have nothing in it for the bowlers. Akhtar wasnt even a centraly contracted players and any PCB regulations with regards to the players talking to the media about not talking to the press did not even apply to him (technical point).


Ever know what confidentiality is.. You should if you want to have a Job..

He shoots his mouth with stuff he can't substantiate.. He says that DNA wanted to extort money from him.. He comes up saying that Inzi and Moin were match fixers.

An Eye opener for you..

http://www.wellpitched.com/2008/04/war-is-on-shoaib-akhtar-rips-apart-pcb.htmlhttp://www.wellpitched.com/2008/04/war-is-on-shoaib-akhtar-rips-apart-pcb.html

You write


You and i know about our country and how many people follow the rules, regulations, procedures, codes of conduct, blah blah,


On one hand you want Akhtar to be let scott free because according to you nobody follows the rules in Pakistan. On the other hand you want the same freedom for him practiced in Law Abiding Countries.. Isn't it contradictory.



I have even seen the video, and the video clearly showed they were joking and messing around. The slapping incident was a rumor, just think of it Akhtar hits Asif with a bat and is called back. But Akhtar slaps Woolmer, pushes Woolmer yet nothing happens to him. Thus none of that ever really happened. Period.

Acha.. Never knew that.. Don't know why Woolmer playfully push Akhtar back preferably from a high building and get rid of this prankster..

[Savak]

Again, if DNA is all evil, does that exonerate Akhtar.. This is what you would want to believe. Razzaq and Yousuf are alltogether a different matter, Start another thread on it and i'll respond there.. Don't try to compare Fresh Apples to Rotten oranges..

Well this situation is far from just DNA getting away with all his pathetic, dictatorial decisions, we all know about the NCHD auditing scandal, the PCB financial scandals but Akhtar beeing punished on the basis of a personal grudge by DNA and on pathetic charges really. No Yousaf and Razzaq are not a different matter, all these cricketers combined just go to show the double standards of the doctor and his pathetic man and player management from the beginning.

Ever know what confidentiality is.. You should if you want to have a Job..

He shoots his mouth with stuff he can't substantiate.. He says that DNA wanted to extort money from him.. He comes up saying that Inzi and Moin were match fixers.

An Eye opener for you..

http://www.wellpitched.com/2008/04/...-apart-pcb.html


Yep saw that, like Moin Khan said Akhtar was disoriented and needed the right guidance to deal with high pressure situation. Besides that was a very small allegation he made, DNA in court will face more pressure in case he ever gets summonded for the missing unaccounted for Rs 1 billion when he was the chair of NCHD by NAB, also for the misuse of PCB funds when he was chairman. Now that is certainly much bigger in comparison to the small, meager IPL cuts we are talking off here.

Akhtar never accussed Inzi, Moin of match fixing on tv, i never saw a clip of him saying so. I will only believe once i see a clip and if he did say it, why havent they taken legal action against him yet.


On one hand you want Akhtar to be let scott free because according to you nobody follows the rules in Pakistan. On the other hand you want the same freedom for him practiced in Law Abiding Countries.. Isn't it contradictory.

Well in my view Akhtar has already served for his past punishments and this latest disciplinary charge for speaking to the media was all crap and hogwash and not even a charge in my view. So yes he should be given a break and let off. No contradiction here, and its not fair someone like Shoaib to be punished so seriously for cricketing transgressions when so many corrupt never see the jail bars in their life, people who broke the country up are still living unchallenged. So why this hell bent fixation of punishing Shoaib so heavily for a game of cricket?

Acha.. Never knew that.. Don't know why Woolmer playfully push Akhtar back preferably from a high building and get rid of this prankster..

Sorry dont know what you are trying to imply here. But fact is fact, the Akhtar-Asif incident came out immediately when it happened while the Woolmer-Akhtar alleged pushing and slapping incidents were never taken seriously. Makes for obvious reading.

[Zeenix]

The Link had been starred out. Check this one..

LINK TO SHOAIB AKHTAR BAKWAAS (http://www.wellpitched.com/2008/04/war-is-on-shoaib-akhtar-rips-apart-pcb.html)

[Savak]

The Link had been starred out. Check this one..

LINK TO SHOAIB AKHTAR BAKWAAS (http://www.wellpitched.com/2008/04/war-is-on-shoaib-akhtar-rips-apart-pcb.html)

Mate i have seen that link as well. :D As long as Akhtar himself does not come forward and say this verbally in his own words in front of the camera to the media, Inzi and Moin cant do anything to Shoaib because they have no proof whether Shoaib said it or not. At times Hamid Mir tends to play things up and if this was a serious thing, i am sure he would have gone and done some research. It was Hamid Mir who brought up matchfixing links and was reporting that Pakistani players were guilty and suspected in Woolmer's murder. So Hamid Mir has no credibility in these matters. Thus Shoaib is in the clear :D

[Zeenix]

Well this situation is far from just DNA getting away with all his pathetic, dictatorial decisions, we all know about the NCHD auditing scandal, the PCB financial scandals but Akhtar beeing punished on the basis of a personal grudge by DNA and on pathetic charges really. No Yousaf and Razzaq are not a different matter, all these cricketers combined just go to show the double standards of the doctor and his pathetic man and player management from the beginning.



They are indeed different. No point in trying to push that. Stick to the actor.



Yep saw that, like Moin Khan said Akhtar was disoriented and needed the right guidance to deal with high pressure situation. Besides that was a very small allegation he made, DNA in court will face more pressure in case he ever gets summonded for the missing unaccounted for Rs 1 billion when he was the chair of NCHD by NAB, also for the misuse of PCB funds when he was chairman. Now that is certainly much bigger in comparison to the small, meager IPL cuts we are talking off here.

Akhtar never accussed Inzi, Moin of match fixing on tv, i never saw a clip of him saying so. I will only believe once i see a clip and if he did say it, why havent they taken legal action against him yet.


Did you read what Hamid Mir said about his off the record statements.. Actor didn't sue Hamid Mir for that. did he.. If he didn't say those, why not sue Hamid Mir..



Well in my view Akhtar has already served for his past punishments and this latest disciplinary charge for speaking to the media was all crap and hogwash and not even a charge in my view.


Thats your view.. stick to it and be happy..



So yes he should be given a break and let off. No contradiction here, and its not fair someone like Shoaib to be punished so seriously for cricketing transgressions when so many corrupt never see the jail bars in their life, people who broke the country up are still living unchallenged. So why this hell bent fixation of punishing Shoaib so heavily for a game of cricket?


And your point is .....




Sorry dont know what you are trying to imply here. But fact is fact, the Akhtar-Asif incident came out immediately when it happened while the Woolmer-Akhtar alleged pushing and slapping incidents were never taken seriously. Makes for obvious reading.


Acha, it wasn't taken seriously right... Fact is that Woolmer being the good person that he was, didn't push it. And its not Just that, Akhtar had slapped Moin and Inzi a couple of times too (by his own self admission).. The whole freaking world is hell bend upon proving that Akhtar is an evil person.. The ICC, the PCB, the players, the greats of the game etc etc.. Even his own fitness is plotting against him. He is fit but surprisingly when he bowls his fitness conspires with his enemy and breaks down..

What a laugh.. Do you really read those long posts that you type, or do you just type without reading them.

[Zeenix]

Mate i have seen that link as well. :D As long as Akhtar himself does not come forward and say this verbally in his own words in front of the camera to the media, Inzi and Moin cant do anything to Shoaib because they have no proof whether Shoaib said it or not. At times Hamid Mir tends to play things up and if this was a serious thing, i am sure he would have gone and done some research. It was Hamid Mir who brought up matchfixing links and was reporting that Pakistani players were guilty and suspected in Woolmer's murder. So Hamid Mir has no credibility in these matters. Thus Shoaib is in the clear :D

Ok.. Now Hamid Mir has No credibility.. Thats why Shoaib sued him for a million dollars.

Once again you are contradicting yourself. Hamid Mir has no credibility but he was credible enough to be able to conduct a research..

You do understand how empty and repetitive your arguments are becoming..

Any person speaking against the Actor is an evil person..

Go take a walk, sometimes too much typing does bring out schizophrenic tendencies.. You start believing What you THINK happened..

[Savak]

They are indeed different. No point in trying to push that. Stick to the actor.

Sorry but i will bring up any cricketer who i feel have been wronged by the PCB and testify to the PCB's pathetic player management and hypocricy. You dont see it that way, for that i am sorry.

Did you read what Hamid Mir said about his off the record statements.. Actor didn't sue Hamid Mir for that. did he.. If he didn't say those, why not sue Hamid Mir..

I did, was wierd and breathtaking but no one is paying attention to that stuff anymore, if this thing is raised in the media again i am sure Akhtar will respond appropriately. So far both Inzi and Moin have done nothing against Akhtar.


Thats your view.. stick to it and be happy..

Dont worry, lol. I will

And your point is .....

You know my basic point, why punish Akhtar for small, unimportant cricketing transgressions when people responsible for treasonous, unforgivable, life affecting and destoying actions in our country are allowed to roam scott free.

Acha, it wasn't taken seriously right... Fact is that Woolmer being the good person that he was, didn't push it. And its not Just that, Akhtar had slapped Moin and Inzi a couple of times too (by his own self admission).. The whole freaking world is hell bend upon proving that Akhtar is an evil person.. The ICC, the PCB, the players, the greats of the game etc etc.. Even his own fitness is plotting against him. He is fit but surprisingly when he bowls his fitness conspires with his enemy and breaks down..

Moin and Inzi have denied it, Trust me no one likes beeing slapped. Woolmer wasnt a sissy who would take it lovingly and nicely beeing slapped and pushed around especially by Akhtar. If it was true i would lose all respect for him. Hamid Mir plays things up as we all know. When has the ICC ever supported Asian Cricketers? Fitness is not the issue and is not a disciplinary matter.

What a laugh.. Do you really read those long posts that you type, or do you just type without reading them.

As if thats possible. I mean each and every letter i write. I will go to any lengths to defend anyone whom i feel has been wronged and hard done by even if the whole world is against him.

[Savak]

Ok.. Now Hamid Mir has No credibility.. Thats why Shoaib sued him for a million dollars.

Once again you are contradicting yourself. Hamid Mir has no credibility but he was credible enough to be able to conduct a research..

You do understand how empty and repetitive your arguments are becoming..

Any person speaking against the Actor is an evil person..

Go take a walk, sometimes too much typing does bring out schizophrenic tendencies.. You start believing What you THINK happened..

Did anyone take Hamid Mir's allegations seriously? Is it beeing mentioned in the media right now? Has someone taken Akhtar to court over it? Has Hamid Mir brought up the issue again? Did Mir conduct a research? We all know the allegations he made against the team about them beeing involved in match fixing and them beeing suspects in Woolmers murder. Did anyone take legal action against him then? I have no views on Hamid Mir he is just a journalist and journalist can play things up, i was just repeating his history to u.

Your arguements are no better than mine my friend, the only way you win an arguement is when the other person agrees with some undisputable points raised by the other person and totally convinces the other person that his stance is wrong.

Oh so doesnt it work this way too, those who support Akhtar are blind and just like him drama queens, attention seekers, idiots e.t.c. e.t.c. It works both ways buddy.

Lol i know you would love to see me walk out of here but that aint happening i will say it as i see. And so far DNA, PCB, Our bowling attack, the ban on Akhtar, Razzaq is all crap at the moment and a huge change and roll of heads is the order of the day.