View Full Version : Inzi was interested to take Ajmal to ICL
Legendary_Sage
4th July 2008, 09:48
Just read it in the Jang News and really surprised to see that Inzi was very impressed with Ajmal and was interested him to take to ICL team.
Ajmal is included in the squad on the recommendation of Misbah.Who backed the Offsipnner inclusion in the team.
Good decision by Ajmal to turn Inzi down.
Legendary_Sage
4th July 2008, 09:59
Yes its good for Pak cricket.As abdul Rauf mentioned he was also approached by ICL so if both of these players would have decided to play there we would been two players short for todays match.
cars112
4th July 2008, 10:03
For once I have to say the big man would have been wrong in something
Geordie Ahmed
4th July 2008, 10:15
For once I have to say the big man would have been wrong in something
not necessarily - financially the ICL would have been rewarding for Ajmal BUT fortunately he did turn it down and now he has been picked. Lets hope he is atleast given a run in the side
cars112
4th July 2008, 10:16
not necessarily - financially the ICL would have been rewarding for Ajmal BUT fortunately he did turn it down and now he has been picked. Lets hope he is atleast given a run in the side
Fair enough mate but playing for your country, for Team Pakistan, as opposed to some Indian dollars...
Geordie Ahmed
4th July 2008, 10:19
Fair enough mate but playing for your country, for Team Pakistan, as opposed to some Indian dollars...
I agree BUT as a 30 year old spinner who is hardly known, chances are slim that you will make it into the side, have to put your family first
Its a lot different to someone like Razzaq who has earned plenty of money, still at a decent age and is well known and has plenty of fans
BUT obviously it has paid off for Ajmal since he has 1 match to his name now, hopefully it will be the first of many
If Inzi though Ajmal was such a talent .. shouldn't he have recommended him for the national team ?
Ahh the great and honorable Inzi ...
I agree BUT as a 30 year old spinner who is hardly known, chances are slim that you will make it into the side, have to put your family first
Its a lot different to someone like Razzaq who has earned plenty of money, still at a decent age and is well known and has plenty of fans
BUT obviously it has paid off for Ajmal since he has 1 match to his name now, hopefully it will be the first of many
Agree with that. Razzaq and Yousuf only joined the ICL because they were throwing tantrums which is different.
Sohaib
4th July 2008, 10:32
Was Inzi sleeping when he was the captain of Pakistani team?!!!!
Sultan Yusuf
4th July 2008, 10:32
What is inzi? The ICL pimp or something?
What is inzi? The ICL pimp or something?
:)) sorry Inzi fans (that includes me) but this made me laugh
cars112
4th July 2008, 10:43
If Inzi though Ajmal was such a talent .. shouldn't he have recommended him for the national team ?
You have a point there
feather
4th July 2008, 12:31
He is captain of the Pakistani team within the ICL. It's in his best interest to win so is ours. IPL may have had stars and music...some big names but the matches were just as interesting in ICL who came up with the concept in the first place.
There are 100's of kids wanting to play for Pakistan...not everyone will get a chance...sooner or later they have to make a choice so Inzi offering them something...isn't a bad thing.
SameerM
4th July 2008, 12:33
inzi knew this guy had potential and pcb will mess him about. great great INZI !!!!
Inzi, when u gonna hve a kid? we need NEW Inzi of 21st century !! cmon inzi get busy
Country First
4th July 2008, 12:34
Inzi should keep his trap shut...both front and back
Further he stays away from Pak cricket the better
Country First
4th July 2008, 12:38
So what did he actually do?
Count me youngsters he nurtured into serious talents
Savak
4th July 2008, 12:40
bro after wot Inzi did for Pakistan.. i think ur comment is WELL OUT OF ORDER!
It was a loving joke. I have nothing personal against Inzi. I love him as the batsman, i just dont think he was a good captain and he made mistakes. But i have given him credit always when its due.
SameerM
4th July 2008, 12:43
its not his job to NURTURE .. its his job to pick from the BUNCH he is offered.
WIN with the sh!t, wild talent he had.. he did a GREAT JOB.
youngsters talents nurting is the job of the Board/management/coaches/u19 academies etc...
Its not the job of an INTERNATIONAL CAPTAIN!!
therefore after Imran, the W's, Inzamam is the man..
ps. savak, good to hear u appreciate is good side
Country First
4th July 2008, 12:45
Imran nurtured Ws....turned them into superstars
Inzi did jack shiet...and it's showing now
I am senior manager in my company, and I not only pick employees but am constantly nurturing this raw talent into tomorrow's managers
Legendary_Sage
4th July 2008, 12:54
Wasim nurtured Saqlain,Abdul Razzaq,Afridi,Azhar mehmood and took some stunning performances from them during his captaincy.
Savak
4th July 2008, 12:57
its not his job to NURTURE .. its his job to pick from the BUNCH he is offered.
WIN with the sh!t, wild talent he had.. he did a GREAT JOB.
youngsters talents nurting is the job of the Board/management/coaches/u19 academies etc...
Its not the job of an INTERNATIONAL CAPTAIN!!
therefore after Imran, the W's, Inzamam is the man..
ps. savak, good to hear u appreciate is good side
Imran was different, Imran had the charisma, personality and the fact that he was an allrounder automatically meant he was obviously going to have more of an impact on his players like in comparison to Inzi. Imran loved pace and bowlers who could hit the deck so that is why he offered all the support in the world to Wasim, Waqar and Aqib. Imran practically taught them what to bowl, how to react in difficult situations, he used to absorb all the pressures for them, was ready to take the blame for them, be in the firing line and that is why he was very well respected, he never looked to make anyone a scapegoat.
Inzamam couldnt do that because he was always a laid back individual, the good thing inzi did is that he tried to make up for his poor communication, tactical abilities, strategies, reactive captaincy in the field by trying to lead by example with the bat. When he did that, his team responded but as we say towards the end, as inzi's batting took a hit so did the team's fortunes. While it is commemdable Inzi got the best out of the talent we had at that time, i also feel he made mistakes like his very poor relationship with Shoaib Akhtar, his overthe top selection powers, giving a very limited role to Woolmer in the squad. But he was a better captain than Shoaib Malik i feel.
But thats all in the past now, we will miss Inzi the batsman for quite a while but all good things come to an end. I wish Inzi all the best and implore him not to make any anti unwarranted Shoaib Akhtar statements anymore.
Country First
4th July 2008, 12:57
Wasim nurtured Saqlain,Abdul Razzaq,Afridi,Azhar mehmood and took some stunning performances from them during his captaincy.
One more example of a nurturing/caring captain
Unlike the selfish, insecure inzi...who kept Misbah away cuz his own position would've been at stake
So inzi, stick to your ICL, you belong with those misfits/degenerates
Savak
4th July 2008, 12:59
Wasim nurtured Saqlain,Abdul Razzaq,Afridi,Azhar mehmood and took some stunning performances from them during his captaincy.
Yes after Imran, Wasim Akram was the best captain Pakistan had. He was very proactive, always trying different things, he got the best out of the lot you mentioned, used Shoaib Akhtar aggressively, was very cool and calm. He knew when to love and care for his team mates and when to abuse and insult them at the same time :D . Perfect approach in my view.
Country First
4th July 2008, 13:01
He knew when to love and care for his team mates and when to abuse and insult them at the same time :D .
You do know what you are talking about.
Very articulate and succint. Good one.
feather
4th July 2008, 13:05
I am senior manager in my company, and I not only pick employees but am constantly nurturing this raw talent into tomorrow's managersIt shows from your posts.
Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 13:14
One more example of a nurturing/caring captain
Unlike the selfish, insecure inzi...who kept Misbah away cuz his own position would've been at stake
So inzi, stick to your ICL, you belong with those misfits/degenerates
You can say the same about Inzamam. Under his captaincy, he gave pakistan Younis Khan, Mohammed Asif, Umar Gul, the best of Shahid Afridi, Salman Butt.
If Inzamam retired after the 2003 World Cup, imagine that star studded line up! People need to stop hating Inzamam, I agree Inzamam the captain was okay at best....but Inzamam the batsmen was great.
Monsee
4th July 2008, 13:16
One more example of a nurturing/caring captain
Unlike the selfish, insecure inzi...who kept Misbah away cuz his own position would've been at stake
So inzi, stick to your ICL, you belong with those misfits/degenerates
Misbah never played under Inzi and last time when Misbah was dropped, he failed in a few games and was rightly dropped!
During Inzi's tenure, we had one of the best middle order's in the world: YK, MoYo, and Inzi; where do you think Misbah would have fit in?
I would also like to know how Inzi kept Misbah out of the team...even when Misbah was picked again before the 20-20 WC, every Pak supporter was against his selection due to his advanced age and an average past record?
Post a comment but use your brain first!
Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 13:23
Misbah never played under Inzi and last time when Misbah was dropped, he failed in a few games and was rightly dropped!
During Inzi's tenure, we had one of the best middle order's in the world: YK, MoYo, and Inzi; where do you think Misbah would have fit in?
I would also like to know how Inzi kept Misbah out of the team...even when Misbah was picked again before the 20-20 WC, every Pak supporter was against his selection due to his advanced age and an average past record?
Post a comment but use your brain first!
Well Said!
Inswinger
4th July 2008, 13:31
When did this thread become the bashing Inzi thread????
Inzi has done great things for Pakistan and is one of the best batsmen in the histor of the game. The fact that Ajmal or Misbah never got a game during his tenure is not his fault, it's the darned selectors who only listen to sifarish rather than merit. Inzi himself got himself in the team without sifarish and purely on merit. He would never keep a deserving player out of the team.
This is the typical Pakistani fan's thinking, Hero one day and zero the next day. Just wait till Misbah gets into bad form and then he will be the overaged bum who should be taken out of the team.We go after guys like Inzi who have helped us wi n many matches but guys like Afridi get a free pass for doing nothing special.
Monsee
4th July 2008, 13:40
Well Said!
Thanks...
It is inherent in our Pakistani nature that we start calling for the head of any ex-Person (i.e. President, Captain, Manager etc.) or start to bad mouth that person and forget even an ounce of good done by him!
Under Inzi, we were literally 'Untouchable' at home for quite a while...that itself is some achievement considering before him, we lost against Zimbabwe, got whipped badly by Lanka when they were still getting better and almost lost to BD (Thanks again to the same Mottaa Aaaloo who saved our blushes)...But, no that is not good enough for anyone, since he did not nuture any new players!
Malik's best was under Inzi, ditto Afridi, same for YK, and MoYo...Gul and Asif developed under him...but who remembers all that when one can easily bad mouth him on the net!
lollol
4th July 2008, 13:59
So, the two new old boys have been asked to join ICL: Ajmal & Rauf
And they both are playing for PAK now...
thirdman
4th July 2008, 14:01
Thanks...
It is inherent in our Pakistani nature that we start calling for the head of any ex-Person (i.e. President, Captain, Manager etc.) or start to bad mouth that person and forget even an ounce of good done by him!
Under Inzi, we were literally 'Untouchable' at home for quite a while...that itself is some achievement considering before him, we lost against Zimbabwe, got whipped badly by Lanka when they were still getting better and almost lost to BD (Thanks again to the same Mottaa Aaaloo who saved our blushes)...But, no that is not good enough for anyone, since he did not nuture any new players!
Malik's best was under Inzi, ditto Afridi, same for YK, and MoYo...Gul and Asif developed under him...but who remembers all that when one can easily bad mouth him on the net!
Couldnt save our blushes against Ireland could he?
Moreover if Inzi did any good then we don't owe him anything for it. It was his job as captain and he got paid for it. And compared to previous Pakistani greats, he was an average captain at best.
Saying Malik's et al's best was under Inzi is not good enough. Give us concrete evidence on how he actually contributed to developing them.
Sultan Yusuf
4th July 2008, 14:02
Misbah never played under Inzi and last time when Misbah was dropped, he failed in a few games and was rightly dropped!
During Inzi's tenure, we had one of the best middle order's in the world: YK, MoYo, and Inzi; where do you think Misbah would have fit in?
I would also like to know how Inzi kept Misbah out of the team...even when Misbah was picked again before the 20-20 WC, every Pak supporter was against his selection due to his advanced age and an average past record?
Post a comment but use your brain first!
Duh! Instead of Inzi of course!
But on a serious note, you're right (yes u heard that correctly!). Misbah didn't really warrant a place in the line up and when he was selected for the T20, many were against it.
The problem with inzi and this ajmal thing is - if he can see some potential in him, why didn't he select him for Pakistan when he was captain??! Instead we had to bear the sight of toothless danish bowling with his bandar action every game.
Monsee
4th July 2008, 14:24
Couldnt save our blushes against Ireland could he?
Moreover if Inzi did any good then we don't owe him anything for it. It was his job as captain and he got paid for it. And compared to previous Pakistani greats, he was an average captain at best.
Saying Malik's et al's best was under Inzi is not good enough. Give us concrete evidence on how he actually contributed to developing them.
Go read Malik and Afridi's interviews from that period and you will see how they both said it was due to the confidence from the 'Captain/Coach' that they have become successful!
Speaking of concrete evedance, please do show the same for Akram and the supposed 'Talents' he nutured?
BTW, besides Imran and Akram to an extrent (initially he was a poor captain), which other past great captains are we talking about here...Inzi is one of the most successful captains we have ever had despite him bowling an 'Average Captain'...that is some achievement
Monsee
4th July 2008, 14:31
Duh! Instead of Inzi of course!
But on a serious note, you're right (yes u heard that correctly!). Misbah didn't really warrant a place in the line up and when he was selected for the T20, many were against it.
The problem with inzi and this ajmal thing is - if he can see some potential in him, why didn't he select him for Pakistan when he was captain??! Instead we had to bear the sight of toothless danish bowling with his bandar action every game.
Kaneria was part of the team before Inzi became the skipper...
This is Ajaml's record in domestic cricket:
First-class 72 13696 6383 232 7/116 27.51 2.79 59.0 15 1
I don't see any earth shattering performances in there...it looks decent at best. He only got selected due to his last 'Good Season'.
I would say it is the selectors as well as everyone else's fault that he never got a look in because up until recently, I don't remember seeing his name mentioned as a potential player for the senior team
Dhonian
4th July 2008, 14:38
Ajmal is awesome guys! Persist with him.
Geordie Ahmed
4th July 2008, 14:38
Couldnt save our blushes against Ireland could he?
Moreover if Inzi did any good then we don't owe him anything for it. It was his job as captain and he got paid for it. And compared to previous Pakistani greats, he was an average captain at best.
Saying Malik's et al's best was under Inzi is not good enough. Give us concrete evidence on how he actually contributed to developing them.
Who do you think he is? superman?
If you think we lost to Ireland due to ONE guy then you need your brain checked - we lost to Ireland cos as a team we played badly, our batting was rubbish and Inzi aint to blame for that, yes his batting can be criticised BUT it isnt his fault guys like MoYo, YK, Hafeez, Malik etc etc all got out
Sultan Yusuf
4th July 2008, 14:43
Go read Malik and Afridi's interviews from that period and you will see how they both said it was due to the confidence from the 'Captain/Coach' that they have become successful!
Speaking of concrete evedance, please do show the same for Akram and the supposed 'Talents' he nutured?
BTW, besides Imran and Akram to an extrent (initially he was a poor captain), which other past great captains are we talking about here...Inzi is one of the most successful captains we have ever had despite him bowling an 'Average Captain'...that is some achievement
Are you trying to argue that inzi was a good captain?
Geordie Ahmed
4th July 2008, 14:46
Are you trying to argue that inzi was a good captain?
he was a good captain and we would certainly love to have him here now
Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 14:58
Are you trying to argue that inzi was a good captain?
From 2003-2007, who else could have been captain? Mohammed Yusuf...uh....no. Afridi....uhhhh...no. Razzaq? Younis Khan wasn't even a regular member (during 2003) of the team.
Inzamam made the most of the team he had.
Rudi hater
4th July 2008, 14:59
Was Inzi sleeping when he was the captain of Pakistani team?!!!!
Lets just keep it civil...this is all masala news. you hear this every other day when some one does well. Old tradition in Pakistan. I bet this story is not even half true.
the Great Khan
4th July 2008, 15:01
Kaneria was part of the team before Inzi became the skipper...
This is Ajaml's record in domestic cricket:
First-class 72 13696 6383 232 7/116 27.51 2.79 59.0 15 1
I don't see any earth shattering performances in there...it looks decent at best. He only got selected due to his last 'Good Season'.
I would say it is the selectors as well as everyone else's fault that he never got a look in because up until recently, I don't remember seeing his name mentioned as a potential player for the senior team
remember these were the days of bari and co when stats mattered more...looks like someone ahs actually seen ajmal bowl and tehn asked Misbah and some others what they think!!
SameerM
4th July 2008, 15:08
a person make a decision and u stick by it.. sometimes its good, somtimes its bad.
IF Danish was chosen over Ajmal, then so be it
Danish was firingggggg...
ps. he has droped his bandar runup.. its nice and simple now!
Sultan Yusuf
4th July 2008, 15:17
From 2003-2007, who else could have been captain? Mohammed Yusuf...uh....no. Afridi....uhhhh...no. Razzaq? Younis Khan wasn't even a regular member (during 2003) of the team.
Inzamam made the most of the team he had.
You're making out as if Inzi was a natural captain and no-one else had a chance in hell. Yes he was the most experienced player in the team, but captain? Yousuf and Younis Khan had been talked about as future captains prior to 2003, but never inzi.
Inzi had no clue about anything but batting when he came to captaincy. His dheela nature and disregard for discipline (running between the wickets, getting fitter, actively taking part in training sessions) made him the antithesis of what a captain really is.
Personally, I think Rashid Latif should have continued as captain for about 18 months and someone like younis should have been his understudy with a view to taking over. Inzi as a captain, should never have been in the frame.
The only positive thing I can say about inzi's captaincy is that he is much better than malik. Don't know how much of a compliment that is though.
thirdman
4th July 2008, 15:52
Who do you think he is? superman?
If you think we lost to Ireland due to ONE guy then you need your brain checked - we lost to Ireland cos as a team we played badly, our batting was rubbish and Inzi aint to blame for that, yes his batting can be criticised BUT it isnt his fault guys like MoYo, YK, Hafeez, Malik etc etc all got out
"Who do you think he is? superman?" - STRAWMAN
"If you think we lost to Ireland due to ONE guy" - STRAWMAN
"you need your brain checked" - AD HOMINEM
Those were just the first two lines. Sorry, can't be bothered to read on. Learn how to debate before you respond to my posts.
And the fact that you're an "Administrator" just makes this even more ironic.
Country First
4th July 2008, 15:55
Inzi is ofcourse NOT a superman
Look at the state he left us in...if he were we'd be in a better position...init?
Inzi
Dont bother with Pak cricket anymore...stay away from our future please!!
SameerM
4th July 2008, 16:00
future can only happen ON the basis of history!
so u throwing historical heroes on the fire, is not the way forward
Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 16:08
Personally, I think Rashid Latif should have continued as captain for about 18 months and someone like younis should have been his understudy with a view to taking over. Inzi as a captain, should never have been in the frame.
The only positive thing I can say about inzi's captaincy is that he is much better than malik. Don't know how much of a compliment that is though.
I'm not saying Inzi was the natural captain, I'm saying he was the best person available for the job. Latif was suspended, he was done...I dont believe he's played a game since that catch against Bangladesh.
I recall us only having 5 seniors left in the team. Inzi, Shoaib, Mohammed Yusuf, Shahid Afridi (he was not a permanent member of the team at that time), and Abdul Razzaq. I dont know what Shoaib or Razzaq would have brang to the table. I'm just thankful Mohammed Yusuf wasn't made as captain...he's far far far worse than Inzi and Captain.
SameerM
4th July 2008, 16:11
Inzi's era.....all captains were batsmen or extra-gooood allrounders
Only Pak have chosen Malik, a mediocre batsmen as captain hopeing he will LEARN and develop..
PAST captains have already learnt and developed so can use their experience
from autocratic to democratic styles
Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 16:17
Inzi is ofcourse NOT a superman
Look at the state he left us in...if he were we'd be in a better position...init?
Inzi
Dont bother with Pak cricket anymore...stay away from our future please!!
What state did Inzimam leave us with? When Inzi retired, he left Pakistan cricket with a bowling attack of Shoaib, Asif, Gul and Kanieria. With a middle order of Younis Khan, Shoaib Malik and Mohammed Yusuf.
I believe a lot of the problems began when Younis rejected the captaincy, Malik does not merit a spot in the test team. Is Inzimam to blame for Shoaib Akhtar's poor discipline? Is Inzi responsible for Mohammed Asif and his druggie problems?
Country First
4th July 2008, 16:26
Inzi was a poor leader and still is...period
Blaming a mouse for not protecting the house while the owners are away is unreasonable
He was average, run of the mill, khalas...time to move on
Geordie Ahmed
4th July 2008, 18:30
"Who do you think he is? superman?" - STRAWMAN
"If you think we lost to Ireland due to ONE guy" - STRAWMAN
"you need your brain checked" - AD HOMINEM
Those were just the first two lines. Sorry, can't be bothered to read on. Learn how to debate before you respond to my posts.
And the fact that you're an "Administrator" just makes this even more ironic.
So you refused to answer any of my points?
Why am i not surprised?
me being an admin has nowt to do with it - if you cant respond then dont bother, no need for these smart **** posts
Monsee
4th July 2008, 19:37
;-) So you refused to answer any of my points?
Why am i not surprised?
me being an admin has nowt to do with it - if you cant respond then dont bother, no need for these smart **** posts
Not to forget that he conveniently not see my post either where I refuted his uselss rantings!
Arm Chair Critics are dime a dozen...they come and go like the seasonal insects
Sultan Yusuf
4th July 2008, 21:01
What state did Inzimam leave us with? When Inzi retired, he left Pakistan cricket with a bowling attack of Shoaib, Asif, Gul and Kanieria. With a middle order of Younis Khan, Shoaib Malik and Mohammed Yusuf.
I believe a lot of the problems began when Younis rejected the captaincy, Malik does not merit a spot in the test team. Is Inzimam to blame for Shoaib Akhtar's poor discipline? Is Inzi responsible for Mohammed Asif and his druggie problems?
exqueeeze me? He left us with an attack of shoaib, asif and gul. He done more to undermine shoaib's position in the team than any other preceding captain. Wasim left us with shoaib and all the others inherited him, formed a working relationship etc - it was inzi who didn't.
Asif and Gul maybe, but are asif's injuries due to inzi overbowling him?? who knows.
And Kaneria??? :))) :))) Is that something to be proud about? Kaneria was an upcoming newbie with a lot of potential when he took over. By the time inzi was done, danish had become a completely toothless bowler.
Sami who was an aggresssive, fiery prospect and feared the world over before inzi took over became a useless, meek little trundler after inzi worked his magic on him.
In fact, I don't think anyone has done more to take our bowling attack back 20 years than inzi.
Disclaimer: I know all of it is not solely inzi's fault, but I'm just putting your comments in some sort of perspective.
It might have escaped a few people's attention but perhaps Ajmal was not good enough in the past to make it into the Pakistan team?
His domestic stats are hardly earth shattering are they and quite a few people have commented on how he is a "late blossomer".
I blame Inzi for the record levels of the price of oil too :)
Country First
4th July 2008, 21:18
Bottom line: inzi was an insecure lil' fella...for him to nurture a raw batting talent would've meant axing his own foot
As they say what goes around comes around, by the time he was kicked out on the curb, he was in shambles, team was in shambles...neither one of his exits from ODI or tests were graceful
He came into the (cricket) world as a cryin whimpering baby...and left like one as well
Now he needs to fade into oblivion for our sake, as they say: out of sight outta mind as well
Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 21:23
exqueeeze me? He left us with an attack of shoaib, asif and gul. He done more to undermine shoaib's position in the team than any other preceding captain. Wasim left us with shoaib and all the others inherited him, formed a working relationship etc - it was inzi who didn't.
I dont understand how anyone can blame Inzi for Shoaib's attitude problems. Shoaib has hurt his own body, his own career. An athlete has to take care of their own heath. Shoaib has not....Shoaib has killed his own career, no one else.
Asif and Gul maybe, but are asif's injuries due to inzi overbowling him?? who knows.
And Kaneria??? :))) :))) Is that something to be proud about? Kaneria was an upcoming newbie with a lot of potential when he took over. By the time inzi was done, danish had become a completely toothless bowler.
Sami who was an aggresssive, fiery prospect and feared the world over before inzi took over became a useless, meek little trundler after inzi worked his magic on him.
Who do you blame for the decline of Saqlain? The decline of Razzaq's bowling? The decline of Azhar Mahmood?
In fact, I don't think anyone has done more to take our bowling attack back 20 years than inzi.
I disagree on this point as well, Inzamam is a batsmen...what does he know about spin bowling? Fast bowling? You need a bowling coach for that.
Disclaimer: I know all of it is not solely inzi's fault, but I'm just putting your comments in some sort of perspective.
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Mapleleafs
4th July 2008, 21:25
Bottom line: inzi was an insecure lil' fella...for him to nurture a raw batting talent would've meant axing his own foot
As they say what goes around comes around, by the time he was kicked out on the curb, he was in shambles, team was in shambles...neither one of his exits from ODI or tests were graceful
He came into the (cricket) world as a cryin whimpering baby...and left like one as well
Now he needs to fade into oblivion for our sake, as they say: out of sight outta mind as well
woah...woah...now you are pushing it. 1992 WC Semi-Final.
Bottom line: inzi was an insecure lil' fella...for him to nurture a raw batting talent would've meant axing his own foot
As they say what goes around comes around, by the time he was kicked out on the curb, he was in shambles, team was in shambles...neither one of his exits from ODI or tests were graceful
He came into the (cricket) world as a cryin whimpering baby...and left like one as well
Now he needs to fade into oblivion for our sake, as they say: out of sight outta mind as well
Utter rubbish.
Inzamam can retire knowing full well that he served his country well. He saved our sorry backsides from humiliation time and again. He almost singelhandidly saved our team on a number of occasions. He hardly ever had the luxury of coming in to bat with the score on 100 for 2, rather it was 10 for 2 when he usually found himself coming into bat.
I suggest you go and do some research and find out exactly when and in what circumstances Inzi came to the cricketing world - 1992 World Cup semi final anyone :D - perhaps Country First wasnt born then?
Country First
4th July 2008, 21:36
Mind re-reading my post again -- did i question his batting ability?? huh? yea don't think so
My beef with him is his sense of insecurity...boys what imran, wasim and waqar turned into battle-hardened men, he single-handedly converted them into puny fairies
Where do you think MoYo, YK, Razzaq, Afridi learned to behave like lil' girls? inzi provided them with an estrogen-filled role model...always known for his emotional outbursts and whimpers
Boys_played_well
4th July 2008, 21:40
What is inzi? The ICL pimp or something?
:)))
Mind re-reading my post again -- did i question his batting ability?? huh? yea don't think so
My beef with him is his sense of insecurity...boys what imran, wasim and waqar turned into battle-hardened men, he single-handedly converted them into puny fairies
Where do you think MoYo, YK, Razzaq, Afridi learned to behave like lil' girls? inzi provided them with an estrogen-filled role model...always known for his emotional outbursts and whimpers
No cricketer has been perfect, even the 3 so called batlle hardened men yo uhave mentioned had their problems and issues during their careers.
The other cricketers you have named are grown men, not children. Inzi was not their father who forced them to act in the way they have done.
feather
4th July 2008, 21:47
Country first stop taking cheap shots at someone who isn't here to defend himself. You must have been day dreaming when you said you held a senior management position. I suggest you stop abusing a legend..if you got a point to make...do so without being cheap...have a good stay at PP until it lasts.
Mind re-reading my post again
I've never even read any of your posts before, never mind replying to one, so why the use of the word again.....interesting.
Geordie Ahmed
4th July 2008, 22:47
Mind re-reading my post again -- did i question his batting ability?? huh? yea don't think so
My beef with him is his sense of insecurity...boys what imran, wasim and waqar turned into battle-hardened men, he single-handedly converted them into puny fairies
Where do you think MoYo, YK, Razzaq, Afridi learned to behave like lil' girls? inzi provided them with an estrogen-filled role model...always known for his emotional outbursts and whimpers
So you wasnt question his batting ability?
so pray tell what did you mean by this comment?
He came into the (cricket) world as a cryin whimpering baby...and left like one as well
It seems like you are question his ability as a cricketer BUT then again what would i know, im not a senior manager like yourself :miandad :miandad
Manish26
4th July 2008, 23:22
Well as a neutral fan am quite appalled or stunned at the response of some posters who are getting after one of the most respected,talented middle order batsmen legend and an astute captain that we Indian fans have seen for a long period of time.Comparing him to Imran may be unfair but please do not compare him to Wasim(match fixer) at all...
Rudi hater
5th July 2008, 00:25
Inzi was 1000 times better than Malik both as a player and a captain.
Eagle Eyes
5th July 2008, 01:11
Everyone who goes to the ICL clown picnic is going to destroy its career.
McBoom
5th July 2008, 01:35
Everyone who goes to the ICL clown picnic is going to destroy its career.Really? Thats a remarkable revelation.
I am flabbergasted.
Monsee
5th July 2008, 13:11
what happened to my last post...did it got deleted for some reason?
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