Offical Thread (day 2) - 2nd test WI v Pak @ Jamaica [4/6/05]

[MIG]

Place all updates here.....Allah Bachaay Pakistan Ko !!!

[zushy_786]

Place all updates here.....Allah Bachaay Pakistan Ko !!!Miggy,

What do you think is a good total for pakistan ?

[Amjid Javed]

Place all updates here.....Allah Bachaay Pakistan Ko !!!

:L? :L? is this an unoffical thread?

[MIG]

AS Official as you like....

[Rob H]

where is the anagram?

[MIG]

Too busy at work man !! - My weekend is now reduced to 1 day :((

[Rob H]

ok bro

[khizer]

How long before the match starts?

[Farhad]

We should realistically expect 400-425. Anything above would be a bonus considering the brittleness of the batsmen to come.

[z10]

We should realistically expect 400-425. Anything above would be a bonus considering the brittleness of the batsmen to come.really?...i thort 375 was a realistic target

[161]

the first innings average is here is 288 - so whatever we get we should be well placed.

[Amjid Javed]

i hope razzaq actually plays some shots tmoz....!

play to resume in 2 mins time...

[Amjid Javed]

collymore starts off bowling 2 razzaq

[whyhkk]

Razzaq out

[Amjid Javed]

razzaq goes plumb lbw....!

pak 336/7

hopefully this is razzaq last ever test match!

[Raz]

It pitched outside the line of offstump and shouldnt have been given!

[Amjid Javed]

Raz, it was plumb!

akmal off the mark today with straight drive for 2

akmal needs 2 play some shots here...

[whyhkk]

It doesnt matter if it pitches outside off it matters if it hit the pad outside off

[Officer Barbrady]

It pitched outside the line of offstump !

That is fine it depends on whether it hit him in line and whether it was going on to hit the stumps? Pitching outside off is well within the rules.

[mumtaz]

its ok for the ball to pitch outside offstump, however once it pitches outside legstump, there is no chance of an lbw.

[whyhkk]

is akmal hurt

[Amjid Javed]

akmals been shot in the balls....

:))) :))) afridi laughing his balls off....

[Raz]

The rules state that if it pitches outside the line it shouldnt be given, although umpires do still give them kind of decisions. It probably would have hit the leg stump yes id agree with that.

[Shoaib A]

lol

[ImranR]

91.3 Powell to Kamran Akmal, no run, short ball, goes for pull, misses
and ball hits on the guard, Kamran is laying down on the ground

[Raz]

Damn! That gotta hurt!

[Amir]

everybody is laughing at AKmal, including myself, remember inzi was injured for one game when this happen to him from a spinner!

[whyhkk]

is akmal coming off

[PakPassionate]

Stupid Tony and his Comments on Kamran's Injury

[Amir]

Cozier is cracking me up with his comments!

[Raz]

Tell Tony Cozier to shut up! Hes getting impatient about Kamran taking his time to recover.

[Officer Barbrady]

The rules state that if it pitches outside the line it shouldnt be given, although umpires do still give them kind of decisions. It probably would have hit the leg stump yes id agree with that.


No Raz, the rule is if it pitches outside leg stump it shouldn't be given. Outside off is well within the rules. THe two things to look at are whether it hit within the line of the stumps and whether it was going on to hit the stumps.

[Daoud]

Raz, the pitching outside the line rule only applies to legstump. It doesnt matter if it pitches outside offstump

Akmal is taking a very long time I must say

[Raz]

The rules state that if it pitches outside the line it shouldnt be given, although umpires do still give them kind of decisions. It probably would have hit the leg stump yes id agree with that.


No Raz, the rule is if it pitches outside leg stump it shouldn't be given. Outside off is well within the rules. THe two things to look at are whether it hit within the line of the stumps and whether it was going on to hit the stumps.

Sorry my mistake

[whyhkk]

wat is coziers problem

[Amir]

AKmal is strugglign alot, maybe best if he calls a runner? Pad up malik?

[mooz]

tony coier himself just related the story of adam's holding up play for a long time in order to get some stitches on the field, and he wants akmal to get off the field as soon as possible !!
The irony.

[Raz]

At least Slaters understanding about it. Cozier is just so impatient

[Amjid Javed]

akmal gets 4 thru vacant 3rd slip area

pak 345/7

[whyhkk]

Akmal edged for 4

[Amjid Javed]

single now for akmal

pak 346/7

keep going kami...

[mooz]

it may be in pakistan's interest to have akmal retire hurt and rest up for his wicket keeping duties.
I don't wanna see YK keep.

[Amjid Javed]

leg glance for 4 by rana banana

350 up now...

[mooz]

why doesn't kamran get a runner?
If only to put shoaib to some use.

[Raz]

Rana used to be a hockey player? Thats according to Slater

[Daoud]

At least Slaters understanding about it. Cozier is just so impatient

Maybe he cant relate to the matter?

[mooz]

seems like kamran enjoys being hit in the balls.

[whyhkk]

Akmal get struck in the same area as before

[Monsee]

At least Slaters understanding about it. Cozier is just so impatient

Maybe he cant relate to the matter?


Maybe he is missing a pair of things somewhere ;-) :D

[Amir]

I know it sound silly, but seriously it sounds like Powell is targetting his crotch with that ball, adn the ball after Kamran got up, he aimed for the same area.

[CrickFan]

I wish ..Naved plays a nice little cameo here ..he was touted as an allrounder ..

[Bailan]

yea ... rana was used to play hockey till in his early 20s and then he realized that there was no future in hockey and started playing cricket thereafter, I heard him say that during one of his quick interviews off the field .... when someone asked him about his late debut

[pakistani pride]

inshallah we can get 375 atleast !

[Amjid Javed]

pak 352/7 now

[Amir]

You gyus remember Shabbir interview on CricInfo? HE said he use to be a batsmen so we still got him :P

[Raz]

Cozier still crying

[mooz]

why doesn't kamran retire already? remember he can't just stay off the field in the west indian innings, he needs to keep.

[Amjid Javed]

single for rana

pak 353/7

[Daoud]

Well maybe the voice of the Carribean should shut up

Kamy probably thinks he'll manage, and if he can he should stay out there

[Raz]

Close call for LBW!

[Amjid Javed]

another single this time for kami, then rana

pak 355/7

KA 36* Rana 7*

[mooz]

Well maybe the voice of the Carribean should shut up

Kamy probably thinks he'll manage, and if he can he should stay out there

To me he looks very uncomfortable out there, he may aggravate his injury.

[AsimL8]

Rana for opener. hasnt done worse than the other clowns!

[Raz]

Rana should go for his shots. Hes not luking comfortable when defending.

[Amjid Javed]

Rana hit on the hand now....

[Daoud]

When struck in that area, generally the pain remains for a while, but it starts to get better. It cant really get aggrivated

[mooz]

is the ball keeping low, or is rana totally out of his depth out there?

[Raz]

Kamran still struggling. Hes lying down on his front while Rana's getting treatment.

[Raz]

Rana retiring hurt. Shabbir in

[mooz]

When struck in that area, generally the pain remains for a while, but it starts to get better. It cant really get aggrivated

Consider my previous post as a professional opinion. I am a medical doctor. These things can get bad, he needs an ice-pack.

[Amir]

Thet are trying to injure our layers, good move by Rana, we need him as a bowler

[Daoud]

The pain will remain for a while. It should be OK after a little time though

Rana injured?
Doesnt look good

Well it appears that theres variable bounce. Looks perfect for Razzaq and Afridi

[Raz]

Even mota tidd came out to check if Rana was ok when he was returning to the pavillion.

[Amir]

Shabbir, batsmen fo 15 avg! :P His avg is higher than Bazid!

[Amir]

Rana leavign would not cause much harm, while Akmal is our last recgonized batsmen. we need Rana to bowl too!

[Daoud]

When struck in that area, generally the pain remains for a while, but it starts to get better. It cant really get aggrivated

Consider my previous post as a professional opinion. I am a medical doctor. These things can get bad, he needs an ice-pack.

Fair enough, you'd be more knowledable than me. I was just talking form personal experience. lol

[mooz]

finally common sense prevails.

[Raz]

Just imagine if it had been Ambrose that had bowled them deliveries to Kamran and Rana

[whyhkk]

Akmal 4

[mumtaz]

finally common sense prevails.

have both batsmen retired hurt off the same ball??

[mooz]

When struck in that area, generally the pain remains for a while, but it starts to get better. It cant really get aggrivated

Consider my previous post as a professional opinion. I am a medical doctor. These things can get bad, he needs an ice-pack.

Fair enough, you'd be more knowledable than me. I was just talking form personal experience. lol

You have been hit in the box by powell?
;-)

[Raz]

Shabbir gone for a duck

[whyhkk]

Shabbir out sorry

[mooz]

whats up with the three finger wave from collymore?
its freaking annoying.

[Amir]

Crap our star batsmen gone, now to rely ont he second best in Pakistan...Danish Kaneria

[Raz]

Excellent bowling from Collymore once again, tight off stump line made the batsman play, inducing the edge and a simple catch for Courtney Browne

[Shoaib A]

8 down now!

[z10]

das our cahnce of 500 gone....

[Amjid Javed]

danish off the mark with 4

[Raz]

Danish with a 4 first ball!

[Amir]

Danish 100? It is a possibiilty!

[Daoud]

Collymore thinks hes Tupac or John Cena. Enough already

Mooz, not Powell, but you know how it is playing cricket. Its bound to happen ;-)

[Amjid Javed]

shabbir seems to have been watching s malik/hameed....

[Saj]

a nothing shot from Shabbir, just stood there and gave the keeper catching practice.

400 should be the minimum target here. Hopefully Rana can come back and bat.

[Amir]

What a leave from Danish!

[Shoaib A]

let Kamran do the work, Danish have to help him...... come on...... bundsai!

[whyhkk]

Akmal 4

[whyhkk]

Akmal on a roll

[Raz]

2 balls 2 fours from Kammi

[Daoud]

What a leave from Danish!

Maybe Yasir and Malik should watch Danish play :))

[Amjid Javed]

2 fours for kami, 1st a glide to 3rd man then a pull shot

pak 372/8

kami onto 49*

[Amir]

What a pull! One short of a brillaint 50

[Amjid Javed]

end of the over pak 372/8

[Monsee]

No 50 thread please...remember yesterday Amjid :D :P

[mooz]

daoud dude ur man is on fire
maybe he did do the right thing by staying on the field.
I guess i am just influenced by all those big hematoceles I have seen.

[Raz]

Kaneria should just go for it and not hang around

[Amir]

No 50 thread please...remember yesterday Amjid :D :P

Please do not mention that, I am still traumized by that :P

[Daoud]

No 50 thread please...remember yesterday Amjid :D :P

:))
Yes, no congratulation threads Emperor Palpatine. Done even join in

[Amir]

Is it me, or does Danish have the same bat as me? I feel so honoured!

[whyhkk]

What happened yesterday?

[mumtaz]

amjid has already made a 49* thread

[mooz]

Its not about what bat you have, its about how u use the bat.

[Amir]

What happened yesterday?

Everytime he made a thread wehn a guy scored 50 or 100, they got out shortly after that(as the scorecard shows)

[Daoud]

daoud dude ur man is on fire
maybe he did do the right thing by staying on the field.
I guess i am just influenced by all those big hematoceles I have seen.

Ignorance is bliss :D

[Amjid Javed]

lovely shot for 2 by kaneria...

pak 374/8

[Amjid Javed]

akmal gone.... ball runs along the floor...

hes out for 49....!

[whyhkk]

Akmal out

[mooz]

u think kamran's decision to not shield kaneria from the strike was the right one?

[Amir]

What a good thing to do from Akmal. How unselfish from him, he refused to take a single so he can stay on strike, instead of getting 50!

[Amir]

And now out, so unlucky...i hope Rana comes

[Nauman]

Akmal gone for 49, so that prooves it AJ is jinxed.

[mooz]

u think kamran's decision to not shield kaneria from the strike was the right one?

Never mind
akmal just answered my question.

[Shoaib A]

whats happened?

[Amir]

Can we ban AJ during match time? :P

[mumtaz]

is rana coming out??

[mooz]

i thought the ball was going down the leg side, though he was on the back foot.

[Amjid Javed]

pak 374/9

[Monsee]

akmal gone.... ball runs along the floor...

hes out for 49....!


It is official, Amjid has caused Pak innings to fold rather immaturely...Pak was all set for a 500+ score if not for Amjid and his Jinxy posts :P :D

[deviously~fading~away]

no rana is not coming out

[Amir]

He is out there right now, what match you watching? I think these two should just slog, because they are getting nowhere just defending the ball.

[Nauman]

Can we ban AJ during match time? :P

We did that once after the second ODI against India and it definately had a positive effect as we thrashed India in the next match.

[Daoud]

Rana has come out

Kamy should have looked for a personal milestone >:)

[Amjid Javed]

kaneria now fishing like s malik...

[mumtaz]

no rana is not coming outthats strange, cricinfo must be giving fictituous commentary of powell bowling to rana :P

[Amjid Javed]

kaneria gone....!

collymore gets 7 wkts....

[whyhkk]

All over 374
Collymore 7

[deviously~fading~away]

Sorry, my mistake. I think rana bats well. 400 will be good

[Raz]

Colly gets 7!!!! What a performance!

[Amir]

We should have got 400, to be honest, none of the West Indies bowlers were good. Only Collymore, superb effort from him for 7, but Pak should have got more.

[Monsee]

Can we ban AJ during match time? :P

We did that once after the second ODI against India and it definately had a positive effect as we thrashed India in the next match.


HaHaHa Good One Nauman :))) :))

So how long will he be banned for, this time :P ;-)

[deviously~fading~away]

Our bowlers better bowl like Colly but for some reason they make the best bowling pitch look like a flat pitch

[Shoaib A]

yea gr8 bowling by him...Pakistan struggled against him....end to some crappy batting for the day!!

[whyhkk]

How long is an innings break

[Daoud]

How about Amjid congratulate the Windian batsmen when they're near any achievement. Yes, double figures are also a major landmark

[mumtaz]

How long is an innings break

10 minutes

[Amir]

Dauod, what if has a reverse effect ? :S

[Amjid Javed]

pakistan shud have got 400...

i blame monsee....!

[whyhkk]

Yes Dauod i think it will have reverse effect with our luck

[pakistani pride]

Well how is this wicket ?

374 is decent score first up

[Daoud]

Worth a try. We'll know if they start getting better wont we

[tahaqureshi]

you know whats strange, cricinfo says naved got 7 off 18, although the partnership between him and kaneria was only 1.1 overs and no runs were scored.

[whyhkk]

This is not a bad score considering the pitch has uneven bounce and lot of swing . It could help spinners and escpecially razzaq

[mumtaz]

you know whats strange, cricinfo says naved got 7 off 18, although the partnership between him and kaneria was only 1.1 overs and no runs were scored.

naved got retired hurt and then came back at the fall of the 9th wicket!!

brilliant observation though :D> :D>

[whyhkk]

Commentators saying that this is a good score

[Raz]

HUSH! The Gayle force has arrived!

[pakistani pride]

Well how is this wicket ?

374 is decent score first up

[whyhkk]

4 first ball

[whyhkk]

aNOTHER 4

[Raz]

4 second ball

[whyhkk]

Another 4
3 in a row

[Awesome Anjum]

four

[Raz]

4 third ball 3 in a row! GAYLE ON FIRE!

[tahaqureshi]

naved got retired hurt and then came back at the fall of the 9th wicket!!

brilliant observation though

Thanks for the fill in ;)+

[Awesome Anjum]

ooooooooh

[Amjid Javed]

The pitch which was uneven is now looking flat!

The ball that was swinging around had now ceased....!

as nauman said... pakistan bowlers will make this pitch look like antigua...

4 balls gone 13 runs already....!

rana bowling his usually dross!

[Daoud]

Jeebus, this looks bad

AMJID, get to work NOW

[pakistani pride]

ERRHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT IS HE DOJNG ?!!!!!!!!!

[Amjid Javed]

spear ahmed is on now... bowling to gayle

[Nauman]

AJ please start a thread congratulating Gayle maybe he can get out.

[adi 101]

shabbirs of to a good start......

[Amjid Javed]

gayle looking very good here

come on west indies score 600....

[Monsee]

AJ please start a thread congratulating Gayle maybe he can get out.

I second that...infact keep 11 threads ready for each player ;-) :D

[Raz]

Maiden from Shabbir, good start

[tahaqureshi]

stupid cricinfo is stuck again

[adi 101]

4 runs for smith of ranas first ball of his second over

[whyhkk]

They need to get Rana off
He is not bowling well
Maybe because of his injury

[Raz]

stupid cricinfo is stuck again

http://www.caribbeancricket.com/scores.html

Try that

[Amjid Javed]

rana bowls another pie....

w.i 18/0

[adi 101]

another 4 for gayle of rana

[Amjid Javed]

four more.... another half volley...

[whyhkk]

Oh my God
Rana is horrible

[Raz]

Rana getting smashed

[adi 101]

i think ranas release of the ball is being afected by his injury hopefully he can get some rhythm back

[Monsee]

gayle looking very good here

come on west indies score 600....


That's the spirit...now congrat gayle for his fours :D>

[Amjid Javed]

chris gayle looking to score 300 today just by himself....

[MIG]

Shabbir now bowling at a pristine pace of 79.9 mph - I expect his next job to be stand up comedy!

[adi 101]

run out chance for pakistan their

[tahaqureshi]

http://www.caribbeancricket.com/scores.html

Try that

Thanks

[adi 101]

two runs for gayle of shabbir this time

[whyhkk]

We need to get Gayle out quickly

[adi 101]

another four this of shabbir

[Raz]

Gayle with another 4!

[mumtaz]

We need to get Gayle out quicklyand sarwan and lara and chanderpaul too

[adi 101]

this time a six!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[whyhkk]

6 by Gayle

[Raz]

6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Amjid Javed]

w.i 35/0

gayle 29 off just 18 balls....

[adi 101]

razzaq comes on for rana

[tahaqureshi]

why oh why did the windies have to break out of their long shell against US??? what did we ever do to them?

Their re-emergence was inevitable, but why against us?????

:)) :)) :))

[mooz]

this is the point where some one starts a "why is akhtar not playing" thread.

[adi 101]

razzaq to smith
1) defended outside ofstump no run
2) defended on middle stump no run
3) short by razzaq pulled away down legside for a single
4) gayle on strike now.....outside ofstump defended for no run
5) drives it of the backfoot for no run
6) driven back for four runs bad end to the over

[whyhkk]

Another 4 by Gayle
40/0

[mooz]

why oh why did the windies have to break out of their long shell against US??? what did we ever do to them?

Their re-emergence was inevitable, but why against us?????

:)) :)) :))

I don't think they have "re-merged"
we just are not that good at this point of time.

[Raz]

Another 4 from Gayle!

[tahaqureshi]

Razzaq is really improving as a bowler..

[DM]

Destruction by Gayle. Well at least i hope a certain beast's inferiority complex is activated by this Gayle onslought ;)

[whyhkk]

Is this an ODI game or test?

[Raz]

Devon Smith helping himself as well

[Amjid Javed]

4 for smith now....

w.i 44/0

[Saj]

some poor stuff from the Pak bowlers. Neither the line or the length has been right.

There is enough in this wicket for them, but not if you bowl wide of the stumps or too full. They are bowling a Pak length instead of a West Indian length.

[mooz]

afridi to replace shabbir?

[in_cutter]

GAYLE FORCE at sabina park! Pak bowlers gettin battered

[adi 101]

shabir to smith
1) FOUR RUNS, driven straight down the field
2) NO RUN, short and wide but left alone
3) TWO RUNS
4) what a ball smith had no clue completly beaten no run
5) defdend for no runs on the ofstump
6) ONE RUN, down the legside and hit way to third man

[Shoaib A]

pak bowlers can't handle this.....not looking good at all

[Shoaib A]

run rate sky high for windies!

[adi 101]

wicket razzaq strikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gayle goes

[Amir]

Alot relies on Razzaq to find some sort of breakthrough..AJ we need one of your threads!

[Amjid Javed]

razzaq gets gayle.....

[whyhkk]

Yes Gayle is out
Razzaq caught behind

[Raz]

GAYLE GONE!

[shan]

gayle goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[adi 101]

aj do you support pakistan?

[Bailan]

GAYLE GONE

[Amjid Javed]

aj do you support pakistan?

yeah why?

[Amir]

RAZZZZZZZZZZY....this si why we need him in the test team. His expierence is so valuable with such young bowling attack.

[Nauman]

Finally,

[Amir]

aj do you support pakistan?

yeah why?

We need one of your miracle threads :P

[DM]

Gayle makes the same score as Afridi :D

[mumtaz]

thats wat i was saying b4 the match....agreed razzaq wont be our 3rd best seamer when shoaib and co are back but atm he is our best seamer and you cant leave him out.

[adi 101]

no its just that you are a bit hyper when gayle is smashing pakistan around and when he is out " razzaq gets gayle....." is not much of a erm a overly happy quote

[tahaqureshi]

Razzaq has not given a bad performance with the ball for a while..lets hope he continues to improve

[adi 101]

appeal for edge down the legside not given but excelent take by akmal

[adi 101]

kaneria in to the attack and almost strikes first ball

[adi 101]

huge appeal on the second ball no shot offered but sheperd gives it not out

[Amjid Javed]

kaneria starting well!

[mooz]

kaneria needs to stay consistent.
He needs to bowl 6 good balls an over, not 3 looseners that take the pressure of the batsmen.

[adi 101]

four runs of razzaq

[Amir]

I missed it, did it look out so I can rant?

[Usman]

Salam all, hmmm West indies starting well here, can anyone tell me what happened to Naveed??? Will he bowl at all???

[tahaqureshi]

He got injured, which is why I think his release of the ball is being disturbed....

[shan]

good seasion for wendies

[Saj]

Time for Woolmer to earn his cash and get the bowlers working this pitch out.

Short of a length is the length to bowl and things happen.

[Usman]

man!!! who was the stupid bowler who caused that injury???

[adi 101]

thats it lunch time i think or tea time which ever one it is

[Nauman]

man!!! who was the stupid bowler who caused that injury???

It was Rana's own well doing.

[Amir]

No it was not, the, Powells bal kicked out of nowhere and hit him in the hand. Would hit any batsmen!

[Nauman]

No it wouldnt have, he was playing like he has never held a bat, poking at the ball as if its the first time he is out there facing the ball.

[Fessal]

We need to pick some quick wickets after lunch or this game will slip away by the end of the day.

[mooz]

unplayable

[mumtaz]

well we have got one!! razzaq strikes straight away.