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MIG
17th September 2008, 18:53
Amazing what a few daring moves can make in todays world....

From AFP news.



http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5je5QI0FcaPBImqU6gvhd33Z6dt3A

Top US commander reassures Pakistan over sovereignty
7 hours ago

ISLAMABAD (AFP) US military chief Admiral Michael Mullen Wednesday reiterated Washington respects Pakistan's sovereignty after a row sparked by recent cross-border raids by US forces based in Afghanistan.

Mullen held talks with Pakistan's top army official and the prime minister amid tensions over US raids on tribal areas bordering Afghanistan, known hideouts of Taliban and Al-Qaeda militants.

"Admiral Mullen reiterated the US commitment to respect Pakistan's sovereignty and to develop further US-Pakistani cooperation and coordination on these critical issues that challenge the security and well-being of the people of both countries," a US embassy statement said after talks.

Mullen, who flew in to Islamabad on an unannounced trip late Tuesday, met General Ashfaq Kayani and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani, who was accompanied by several top government officials including defence and foreign ministers.

"The conversations were extremely frank, positive, and constructive," the embassy said and added that Mullen "appreciated the positive role that Pakistan is playing in the war on terror and pledged continued US support to Pakistan."

"The ongoing war against terrorism and the situation on the Afghan border came under discussion," a Pakistani official said, without giving further details.

Security sources in Islamabad said Pakistan conveyed to the US military chief that unilateral cross-border strikes and raids by ground forces based in Afghanistan would be counter-productive.

"Such raids will be a setback to our efforts against the militants' network," the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told AFP.

It followed anger in the country over a September 3 ground attack by US commandos in tribal South Waziristan district in which 15 people were killed.

Kayani, in a strongly worded statement, previously warned Pakistani armed forces would protect the country's sovereignty and territorial integrity "at all cost."

Military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said that Pakistan's policy of defending its borders was very clear.

"We have repeatedly said we will defend our territory and we reserve the right to retaliate in case of any aggression," Abbas told AFP ahead of the talks on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates told reporters in Kabul that his country will work with Pakistan to address the problem of terrorist sanctuaries in the border tribal areas.

Gates said he was encouraged by recent Pakistani military operations which had put pressure on extremists.

the Great Khan
17th September 2008, 18:59
lol..thats all most of us wanted our previous ruler to do...these guys need us as much as we need them!

Momo
17th September 2008, 20:03
^^ Unfortunately our previous ruler lost a couple of his balls in one of his many life-endangering commando actions "in the line of fire".

the Great Khan
17th September 2008, 20:58
^^ Unfortunately our previous ruler lost a couple of his balls in one of his many life-endangering commando actions "in the line of fire".


:)) :)) :)) :mush :poodle

:)))

but but...we were enlightened for a few years at least!!..and it was all the beards fault..

Geordie Ahmed
17th September 2008, 21:05
from bbc.co.uk


At least four people have been killed after a US drone fired missiles at a village in the north-west of Pakistan, local intelligence officials said.

The officials said missiles hit the village of Baghar in South Waziristan region, close to the Afghan border.

The missiles are reported to have struck a militant training camp.

The attack comes as the top US military commander met Pakistani officials to discuss increasing tensions over US attacks along the border.

At least three people were injured in the attack, a security official told Agence France Presse.

A Pakistani army spokesman said the military was investigating reports about the incident.

Mohsin
17th September 2008, 21:41
from bbc.co.uk

Ina illahi wainnalillahi rajioun

Was about to post that.

OK so lets get things in perspective.
A few daring moves scares the US and ruins their experiment. Whats the experiment? The very same as it was after 9/11 when America asked :mush us to agree to their terms in invading Afghanistan (just as they tried with Turkey but they rejected it and that was that!). They wanted to see if we have any backbone and if would really retaliate if there was any US action on Pak Sar Zameen. The answer? THE HELL...THERE DEFO IS! Now? They cant invade so they'll continue missile attacks (until we show more serious backbone together with unity!)

I'm not saying this is good, but its better then what was on the table just a few days ago!

Wiji
17th September 2008, 21:59
This has gotten out of hand. We are technically justified to go on an all-out war with the US now.

If a war does break out, I see two outcomes from it. Either:
1. The 'coalition army' will be defeated and forced to leave Afghanistan; or
2. Pakistan will be finished.

Zeenix
18th September 2008, 09:17
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By Rauf Klasra

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told Admiral Mike Mullen and other US Army generals in their meeting on Wednesday that President Bush had personally made a commitment to respect democracy and the sovereignty of Pakistan and so should the US Army.

Talking to The News hours after his meeting with the US military officials, Gilani narrated details of how President Bush had made the commitment to honour two things in Pakistan its democracy and sovereignty.

Gilani said he had reminded the visiting US admiral on Wednesday that in his closed-door meeting during his recent trip to the US, President Bush had asked him to make two wishes which Bush was ready to accept in front of the media to please his guest from Islamabad.

"I had told him that the first wish was to respect Pakistan's sovereignty and the other was to respect Pakistan's democracy," Gilani told The News.

After his meeting with Mullen, he told this correspondent that Bush, accepting his wishes, repeatedly said in his joint press talk that the US would back democracy in Pakistan and would not attack Pakistani territory.

The prime minister said the recent attacks had come as a surprise to him as the US president himself had publicly said that his country would respect the sovereignty of Pakistan.

Gilani reminded Mike Mullen and narrated the story of the two wishes during his meeting with President Bush.

This timely reference by Gilani turned the meeting around with Mike Mullen agreeing to reiterate his government's stance that it would respect the sovereignty of Pakistan.

Gilani said he had asked the visiting American admiral in clear terms that he should reiterate President Bush's public commitment and from now onwards, there should be no attacks inside Pakistan.

Gilani said he had told Mullen that if the Americans had any information about the Taliban, they should formally share it with our Army which would launch an operation in those areas.

Gilani said he had also told Mike Mullen that the US attacks on the Pakistani areas would only help the Taliban to get the sympathies of the local tribesmen. "The same tribesmen are now happy with the Pakistan military because it had challenged the US operations."

Gilani was talking to The News at an Iftar which he had hosted in honour of Commander of National Guards of Bahrain, Shaikh Mohammad Bin Isa.

Meanwhile, sources said Gilani, who had a frank talk with the visiting US admiral, was of the view that the American attacks inside Pakistani territories would simply worsen the situation and might affect the war on terror.

Gilani is said to have told the American general that such attacks in the tribal areas would simply benefit the militants. These attacks would unite the Taliban and other tribesmen.

He said: "We should not alienate the tribesmen who are now backing the military operation in the tribal areas by the Pakistani Army."

The sources said Mike Mullen was reluctant to reiterate the statement to respect the sovereignty of Pakistan but a determined Gilani firmly demanded that the Americans should fulfil their public commitments which were made with him during his trip to the US. At this, Mullen finally agreed.

The aides of both the sides quickly agreed to issue a statement in which the US once again reiterated its commitment to respect the sovereignty of Pakistan.

moumotta
18th September 2008, 09:26
Bush is granting wishes now. Ginii is truly out of the bottle.

MIG
18th September 2008, 10:23
Ok I spoke too soon - another unmanned strike. Next move, Pakistan? Crumble and rollover, play dead or bite back ?

Keith
18th September 2008, 12:51
"The conversations were extremely frank, positive, and constructive," the embassy said and added that Mullen "appreciated the positive role that Pakistan is playing in the war on terror and pledged continued US support to Pakistan."

Keith says: Beware now more than ever pakistan. This is the same rhetoric used over and over by this terrorist state.

Poison
18th September 2008, 12:54
This has gotten out of hand. We are technically justified to go on an all-out war with the US now.

If a war does break out, I see two outcomes from it. Either:
1. The 'coalition army' will be defeated and forced to leave Afghanistan; or


Yo, we dont want war to break out, but if it does, PP'ers think China will help us ?

b0wld
18th September 2008, 14:35
Kiyani's look says it all

our c*****a defense minister is also there

Khabri420
19th September 2008, 10:34
By Rauf Klasra

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani told Admiral Mike Mullen and other US Army generals in their meeting on Wednesday that President Bush had personally made a commitment to respect democracy and the sovereignty of Pakistan and so should the US Army.

Talking to The News hours after his meeting with the US military officials, Gilani narrated details of how President Bush had made the commitment to honour two things in Pakistan its democracy and sovereignty.

Gilani said he had reminded the visiting US admiral on Wednesday that in his closed-door meeting during his recent trip to the US, President Bush had asked him to make two wishes which Bush was ready to accept in front of the media to please his guest from Islamabad.

"I had told him that the first wish was to respect Pakistan's sovereignty and the other was to respect Pakistan's democracy," Gilani told The News.

After his meeting with Mullen, he told this correspondent that Bush, accepting his wishes, repeatedly said in his joint press talk that the US would back democracy in Pakistan and would not attack Pakistani territory.

The prime minister said the recent attacks had come as a surprise to him as the US president himself had publicly said that his country would respect the sovereignty of Pakistan.

Gilani reminded Mike Mullen and narrated the story of the two wishes during his meeting with President Bush.

This timely reference by Gilani turned the meeting around with Mike Mullen agreeing to reiterate his government's stance that it would respect the sovereignty of Pakistan.

Gilani said he had asked the visiting American admiral in clear terms that he should reiterate President Bush's public commitment and from now onwards, there should be no attacks inside Pakistan.

Gilani said he had told Mullen that if the Americans had any information about the Taliban, they should formally share it with our Army which would launch an operation in those areas.

Gilani said he had also told Mike Mullen that the US attacks on the Pakistani areas would only help the Taliban to get the sympathies of the local tribesmen. "The same tribesmen are now happy with the Pakistan military because it had challenged the US operations."

Gilani was talking to The News at an Iftar which he had hosted in honour of Commander of National Guards of Bahrain, Shaikh Mohammad Bin Isa.

Meanwhile, sources said Gilani, who had a frank talk with the visiting US admiral, was of the view that the American attacks inside Pakistani territories would simply worsen the situation and might affect the war on terror.

Gilani is said to have told the American general that such attacks in the tribal areas would simply benefit the militants. These attacks would unite the Taliban and other tribesmen.

He said: "We should not alienate the tribesmen who are now backing the military operation in the tribal areas by the Pakistani Army."

The sources said Mike Mullen was reluctant to reiterate the statement to respect the sovereignty of Pakistan but a determined Gilani firmly demanded that the Americans should fulfil their public commitments which were made with him during his trip to the US. At this, Mullen finally agreed.

The aides of both the sides quickly agreed to issue a statement in which the US once again reiterated its commitment to respect the sovereignty of Pakistan.

He must have used his magic...and spoken the way he did during his visit to the US. :D

http://www.cfr.org/publication/16877/

Savak
19th September 2008, 11:54
Gillani is an idiot if he thinks Bush will actually listen to his meek calls of "Please sir, please respect our territory, our democracy". Lol its funny how this guy even communicated with Bush, given his lovely speaking skills. God, i have never seen any Pakistani Politician let alone PM ever disgrace himself and his country like that before.

Gillani's interview on the conference by a press individual was a disgrace. He just could not express himself properly and couldnt even answer the questions properly. Lol People were even snickering and laughing in the crowd as he spoke and the Pakistani's in the crowd were so embarrassed. Man if you cant speak English, use a translator for god sakes.

Zeenix
19th September 2008, 12:11
Gillani is an idiot if he thinks Bush will actually listen to his meek calls of "Please sir, please respect our territory, our democracy". Lol its funny how this guy even communicated with Bush, given his lovely speaking skills. God, i have never seen any Pakistani Politician let alone PM ever disgrace himself and his country like that before.

Gillani's interview on the conference by a press individual was a disgrace. He just could not express himself properly and couldnt even answer the questions properly. Lol People were even snickering and laughing in the crowd as he spoke and the Pakistani's in the crowd were so embarrassed. Man if you cant speak English, use a translator for god sakes.

Oh really. Then what should have gillani done on his visit to the US. Smuggle in a suicide jacket.

Savak
19th September 2008, 12:18
Oh really. Then what should have gillani done on his visit to the US. Smuggle in a suicide jacket.

WTH. Please read my post again. What i implied was he should grow some balls like Ashfaq Kiani who has vowed to fire on US forces if they entered Pakistani territory instead of giving cowardly statements like "We wont fight the US forces, we will engage diplomatically with them not to attack our territory"

Second, yes i criticized him for his embarrassing performance in the US visit especially every time he opened his mouth trying to speak in English and the fact he could not even answer a single question to the point.

Sheikh
19th September 2008, 12:20
Gillani is a suit. Nothing more, nothing less. He's just a suit.

Keith
19th September 2008, 13:57
Gillani is a suit. Nothing more, nothing less. He's just a suit.

An expensive suit too. One paid for by his countrymen ....