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Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 13:32
NatWest Series

England v Australia (http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/NEW/LIVE/frames/AUS_ENG_NWS_ODI5_23JUN2005.html)
Match start scheduled for 14.30 local time (13.30 GMT)
5th Match: England v Australia at Chester-le-Street, 23 Jun 2005

Mercenary
23rd June 2005, 17:49
Australia havent won a match and England havent lost a match in this tournament so far.

Is the tide about to turn? Are the Aussies going to find their feet?

There are doubts over the fitness of the England captain which will cause some unrest in the England camp and if anything was going to disrupt their good form, this will be it.

The Aussies will see the return of two sorely missed match winners in Brett Lee and Andrew Symonds! Will that be enough to kick the Aussies back into touch or will their recent encounters with the 'other side' affect their form even more?

There's only one way to find out! So what are your predictions?

MIG
23rd June 2005, 17:51
Aussie revival on the cards.... see Clarkes comments in the forum ... if Aussie lose this then chances of their revival are bleak...

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 18:07
If Aussies don't win today then the panick button will really be pressed. England are playing good cricket so Aussies have to be on top of there game too. I am sure a plan for Peiterson must have been devised by now.

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 18:17
even aussies lose today u can never write them off. they'll definiltey be back to winning ways sooner rather than later.

nufc
23rd June 2005, 18:18
England are on great form but i think aussies have had enough now, i think big aussie win today! Is lee playing?

MIG
23rd June 2005, 18:20
even aussies lose today u can never write them off. they'll definiltey be back to winning ways sooner rather than later.

I think the issue with Aussie losing today is not that they wont have any fight left in them - rather its the English and their momentum - that will roll over the Aussies in the finals.

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 18:29
theres a thread on this already.... delete this one!

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 18:31
bump

MIG
23rd June 2005, 18:33
No need to delete, we will merge them.

Big Mac
23rd June 2005, 18:33
Vaughan still struggling with injury so let's hope he fails a fitness test and Ian Bell gets a chacne to play :cool:

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 18:34
Australia will win.

nufc
23rd June 2005, 18:36
is lee playing? i hope vaughan plays cause hes rubbish

Big Mac
23rd June 2005, 18:36
Lee and Symonds should be back for today I think

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 18:49
australias seam attack is all of one pace and thats ease for batsmen 2 adjust to, the lack of variation is hindering australia. the bowlers which are causing most problems are hogg, clarke and symonds the so called "spinners" in the side. also inclusion of lee will give aussies added pace but how effective that is depends on how accurately lee bowls...!

Prince
23rd June 2005, 19:01
Vaughan is out

nufc
23rd June 2005, 19:04
Vaughan is out

noooooooooooooooo now its going to be harder the aussies to win!

zaf1986
23rd June 2005, 19:19
Solanki probably in, with his average of 26 LOL

Big Mac
23rd June 2005, 19:29
They'd better bring Bell into the side

Big Mac
23rd June 2005, 19:46
England win the toss and bowl first

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 19:56
Australia team: +AC Gilchrist, ML Hayden, *RT Ponting, DR Martyn, A Symonds, MEK Hussey, SR Watson, GB Hogg, JN Gillespie, B Lee, GD McGrath.

England team: *ME Trescothick, AJ Strauss, VS Solanki, A Flintoff, PD Collingwood, +GO Jones, KP Pietersen, AF Giles, J Lewis, CT Tremlett, SJ Harmison.

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 19:59
gough to start bowling 2 hayden

alghazzali
23rd June 2005, 19:59
Y do u guys want an Aussie win, I want their reign 2 finish, they've been at the top 4 too long, and i hope guys like Mcgrath, Gillespie, Hayden, Langer, Gilchrist, Martyn all show signs of aging.

Put it this way, If England whitewash the Aussies using this fluke momentum, then most of the Aussie team will consider retirement(i hope), this way England will "dominate" the cricketing arena.

So they'll go to Pakistan as the No1 side brimming of confidence. And believe me when I say all of their key batsmen such as Strauss, Pietersen, Flintoff, Trescothick are weak against spin...............KANERIA!!!! Yep that guy comes into the equation big time!! With Afridi and now Malik whos cleared, we'll be major favourites.

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:02
Y do u guys want an Aussie win, I want their reign 2 finish, they've been at the top 4 too long, and i hope guys like Mcgrath, Gillespie, Hayden, Langer, Gilchrist, Martyn all show signs of aging.

Put it this way, If England whitewash the Aussies using this fluke momentum, then most of the Aussie team will consider retirement(i hope), this way England will "dominate" the cricketing arena.

So they'll go to Pakistan as the No1 side brimming of confidence. And believe me when I say all of their key batsmen such as Strauss, Pietersen, Flintoff, Trescothick are weak against spin...............KANERIA!!!! Yep that guy comes into the equation big time!! With Afridi and now Malik whos cleared, we'll be major favourites.

malik is a ****** poor spinner and england arent that poorer side of playing spin!

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:03
Aus 3/0 (1)

tremlett to open other end bowling 2 gilchrist

alghazzali
23rd June 2005, 20:04
malik is a ****** poor spinner and england arent that poorer side of playing spin!

Course they are, watch how they struggle against Symonds.

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:11
Aus 17/0 off 3 overs now... goodish start...

waquas_uk
23rd June 2005, 20:11
Australia 8/0 (1.4 ov)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:13
Course they are, watch how they struggle against Symonds.

england have always struggled against spinners in odis, wether it be v pakistan, australia or sri lanka...

why? because england dont have a set game plan 2 attack the batsmen either poke around or go for slogs...! thats what happened in the odi series in pakistan last time... however, in test england batsmen will just sit in and wait for the bad balls etc....

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 20:18
prediction: aus 330/4
england 270 AO
Pieterson 0 of 1 ball ;)

alghazzali
23rd June 2005, 20:19
england have always struggled against spinners in odis, wether it be v pakistan, australia or sri lanka...

why? because england dont have a set game plan 2 attack the batsmen either poke around or go for slogs...! thats what happened in the odi series in pakistan last time... however, in test england batsmen will just sit in and wait for the bad balls etc....

U really, honestly think they'll pick Kaneria's wrong'un, even Brian Lara misread a few, Sachin, Laxman, Ganguly, to name but a few of the batsmen.

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 20:27
Someone kindly post score updates as I am at work and canít browse too much

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:28
Someone kindly post score updates as I am at work and canít browse too much

Aus 42/0 off 7.1 overs

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:30
U really, honestly think they'll pick Kaneria's wrong'un, even Brian Lara misread a few, Sachin, Laxman, Ganguly, to name but a few of the batsmen.

lara cained kaneria most of the series, the other 3 u named where all mainly out of form during last series....!

kaneria will do damage in tests however if england are 150/1 etc all time do to are pop gun seamers not been able 2 take wickets etc... the kaneria will have to graft and graft...

shikari
23rd June 2005, 20:36
Any streaming video available for this game ?

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 20:36
Aus 42/0 off 7.1 overs

Thanks

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:36
Aus 44/0 (9)

australia seem 2 be playing conservatively at moment

275-300 is a minimum here i think...

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:37
gichrist gone! tremlett bowls short gilly cuts and jones drops it but catches the ball on rebound... very good catch

aus 44/1 (9.1)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:39
pointing off the mark with 1

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 20:47
pointing off the mark with 1

Ponting has a different fishing technique to Yasir..or is Ponting just a one legged dancer.?

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:49
pointing has a similar style to yasir yes, early on pointing tends 2 shuffle across his stumps to much and can be a huge lbw candidate as he tends 2 be off balance and his head out off line, once hes in thou there are few better batsmen off fast bowling

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:50
aus 61/1 (12)

hayden trashes tremlett thru sqaure leg and then thru point

10 runs off over

harmison on now...

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:53
pointing smashes harmison thru covers for 4 what a shot

aus 69/1

hayden 32 pointing 11

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:54
pointing goes past 8000 odi run mark.....

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 20:54
flintoff now onto bowl

aus 69/1 (13)

right am going gym fessal bhai, will update in about hour or so...

Fessal
23rd June 2005, 21:14
Thanks np.. I am here till 5pm and then will watch it at home.

shikari
23rd June 2005, 21:20
84/1 (18 overs)

Hayden 33
Ponting 23

Prince
23rd June 2005, 21:21
wheres michael clarke?

shikari
23rd June 2005, 21:22
Not playing Symonds replaced him

shikari
23rd June 2005, 21:35
Ponting gone
caught giles off Harmison

96/2 in 21

shikari
23rd June 2005, 21:43
Hayden departs

103/3

Rob H
23rd June 2005, 22:05
132/3

Rob H
23rd June 2005, 22:06
Please change the thread title to the 5th ODI

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:14
Australia innings (50 overs maximum) R B 4 6
+AC Gilchrist c Jones b Tremlett 18 31 2 0
ML Hayden c Jones b Flintoff 39 56 5 0
*RT Ponting c Giles b Harmison 27 40 4 0
DR Martyn not out 15 31 0 0
A Symonds not out 25 38 1 0
Extras (lb 10, w 5, nb 4) 19
Total (3 wickets, 32 overs) 143
FoW: 1-44 (Gilchrist, 9.1 ov), 2-95 (Ponting, 20.2 ov),
3-96 (Hayden, 21.1 ov).

Bowling O M R W
Gough 6 0 22 0 (1nb)
Tremlett 6 0 35 1 (1nb, 1w)
Harmison 7 2 22 1 (2nb, 2w)
Flintoff 5 0 23 1 (2w)
Giles 5 1 14 0
Collingwood 3 0 17 0

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:17
Aus 151/3 (33.3)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:20
Aus 157/3 (34)

symonds looking 2 open up here...

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:23
Aus 161/3 (35)

drinks

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:34
Aus 177/3 now... symonds/martyn going well

shikari
23rd June 2005, 22:35
275 +

Aussies will win

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:41
50 for symonds off 62 balls

aus 186/3

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:44
Aus 188/3 off 39 overs

250-60 wud be minimum

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:48
Aus 191/3 off 40 overs...

its slog time...

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 22:51
6 runs of goughs over

aus 197/3 (41)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 23:03
symonds launches giles into the crowd....! 6

aus 225/3 (43) - 11 runs off the over

martyn gets to 50

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 23:06
symonds lashes another 6

hes onto 73 now...

aus 236/3 (44.5)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 23:09
symonds run out... superb fielding

aus 238/4 (45.1)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 23:23
Aus 252/5 (48.2)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 23:26
Aus 256/5 (49)

Amjid Javed
23rd June 2005, 23:30
Aus 266/5 (50)

england need 267 runs to win in 50 overs

shikari
23rd June 2005, 23:34
it is possible

England can easily win

Rob H
23rd June 2005, 23:38
man we lost this :(

shikari
24th June 2005, 00:18
Lee firing in at 90mph first over

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 00:38
england 6/2 (5.1)

lee cleans up strauss and mcgrath gets tresco caught behind!

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 00:40
england 6/3

mcgrath tears thru collingwood!

whyhkk
24th June 2005, 00:43
England are in deep trouble
Lets see if Pieterson and Flintoff could play under pressure

Amir
24th June 2005, 00:44
TO be hnest, I could see this comign last game. IT was awfulyl close and they left it til the last second. Pieterson cannot score each time. But my point is, Englands openers are playing way too slow and cautious and putting no pressure on the fielders. Een in the last game, they played so damn defensive. Tresco scored 16 off 32 last game and 0 off 15 this game. Just proves what frame of mind he is in, when he is smacking 85 off 65 against Bangladesh.

All a matter of confidence and the openers have to play with that if they want to beat Australia.

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 00:50
tresco has been exposed time and time agen by australia.... nothing new here!

mumtaz
24th June 2005, 00:55
btw why did tresco win the toss and field first when everyone knows that in england it darts all over the place in the evenings

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 01:01
eng 18/3 (10.2)

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 01:08
eng 21/3 (12)

Hash
24th June 2005, 01:12
England 21/3 after 12.1 overs! :17: :17: :108: :108:


Aus putting English back in their true place.........cleaning toilets with their tongues! GO Aus!!!!!

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 01:23
eng 43/3 -> solanki 12 flintoff 21

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 01:51
Eng 73/3

good fightback by solanki and flintoff..

zaf1986
24th June 2005, 02:01
England will lose I predict.......

Shoaib A
24th June 2005, 02:06
4 wickets down now...

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:09
cud be 5...

flintoff looks like hes out stumped...

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:11
given not out... poor decision from english 3rd umpire...

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:12
flintoff gone now... hogg strikes..

hauls out!

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:12
eng 94/5

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:35
ENG 117/5 (33)

150 needed off 17 overs

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:42
pieterson goes to symonds

eng 124/6

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 02:51
Eng 135/7

giles gone now...

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 03:00
jones gone now...

eng 145/8

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 03:15
Eng 164/9

tremlett gone to gillespie

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 03:41
Eng 195/9 (47.1)

gough on 36* playing well also

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 03:45
lee back on and gough greets him with a smashed straight drive for 4

go on goughie..

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 03:47
Eng 206/9 (49.1)

47 runs off 50 balls current partnership

need 213 for bonus point

Amjid Javed
24th June 2005, 03:52
Eng 209/9 (50)

aussies win by 57 runs...

47* for goughie...

Hashim
24th June 2005, 04:12
Thats it, Austraila is back.

Nauman
24th June 2005, 09:29
Looks like Englands short lived glory of being better then Australia has come to an end.