Ian Chappel calls Ramiz's 'theory' rubbish

[Momo]

You have probably seen these six deliveries 60 times or so, but I guess it won't hurt to watch once more.

For those not interested in another viewing, please tune in at 02:45.
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Note: In case you are wondering, this is Asia Cup and therefore before Dravid and Yuvi et al sorted out the Mendis mystery once and for all. :inzi

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[Poison]

You have probably seen these six deliveries 60 times or so, but I guess it won't hurt to watch once more.

For those not interested in another viewing, please tune in at 02:45.
:raja

Note: In case you are wondering, this is Asia Cup and therefore before Dravid and Yuvi et al sorted out the Mendis mystery once and for all. :inzi

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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. Rameez got pwned.

[PlanetPakistan]

actually i agree with Rameez and i am not sure if Harsha explained it too well..

If you play Mendis like a fast leg spinner then you have a much better chance because the off spinner is quite easy to pick.

[sehsan]

actually i agree with Rameez and i am not sure if Harsha explained it too well..

If you play Mendis like a fast leg spinner then you have a much better chance because the off spinner is quite easy to pick.

he hardly bowls offspinner.

[Afridirocks]

ramiz is right...its ian chappell who doesnt know nething

[Momo]

actually i agree with Rameez and i am not sure if Harsha explained it too well..

If you play Mendis like a fast leg spinner then you have a much better chance because the off spinner is quite easy to pick.
In that case, it makes sense (in that case Bhogle did Ramiz a disservice).

Similar thing happened with Kumble. He played cricket for close to two decades and with a few exceptions, most batters (to their peril) kept treating him like a leg spinner, while in reality he was a medium pacer with 95 percent of his deliveries going on straight, and 3 percent coming in.

Moral of the story: Thy shalt not take the initials written after the bowler's name too seriously.

[PlanetPakistan]

he hardly bowls offspinner.
yeah but its quite obvious and any good batsman should pick it.

Main weapon is his carom ball.

[Bailan]

Actually Ramiz didn't say that play him as an off spinner.

His theory was that play him as ONE kind of a bowler ala Younus Khan's idea of playing Kumble as a medium pacer.

[PlanetPakistan]

In that case, it makes sense.

Similar thing happened with Kumble. He played cricket for close to two decades and with a few exceptions, most batters (to their peril) kept treating him like a leg spinner, while in reality he was a medium pacer with 95 percent of his deliveries going on straight, and 3 percent coming in.

Moral of the story: Thy shalt not take the initials written after the bowler's name too seriously.
Actually that was IND's main problem against Mendis.

They thought that Mendis was very similar to Kumble but forgot about the fact that Mendis spins the ball.

p.s i remember Younis Khan saying that he plays Kumble like an inswing bowler and we all know about :yk 's record against IND.

[IronMan2009]

You can't play Mendis as anything. You have find your own game plan. Because he can spin both ways with different actions. It is not like all indians sucked. Mostly the fab 4 struggled. Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni played him better. Yuvraj generally struggles against most spinners though he has improved slightly against other spinners.

And also you have to take into account that there were referrals. So batsmen had to invent new ways to avoid the ball hitting the pad and also tackle Mendis on slow-low SL pitches.
In the IPL he didn't actually bamboozle anyone. This is his first overseas Test series. We will know what he is made of.

[Cheguvera]

Ramiz as usual talking out of his ass...Mendis is a leg spinner (bowled with finger instead of wrist) who bowls a very conventional googly with the back of his hand...whoever classifies him as an offspinner knows little to nothing about cricket and knowing ramiz's record as a player even at the domestic level leads me to believe he should keep his mouth shut when it comes to cricketing matters...

Kudos to Chappell for calling Ramiz rubbish...

[PlanetPakistan]

You can't play Mendis as anything. You have find your own game plan. Because he can spin both ways with different actions. It is not like all indians sucked. Mostly the fab 4 struggled. Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni played him better. Yuvraj generally struggles against most spinners though he has improved slightly against other spinners.

And also you have to take into account that there were referrals. So batsmen had to invent new ways to avoid the ball hitting the pad and also tackle Mendis on slow-low SL pitches.
In the IPL he didn't actually bamboozle anyone. This is his first overseas Test series. We will know what he is made of.
there weren't any referrals in the Asia cup

[ehjaz]

well, the song at the end of this video is for mendis....mehndi ki raat aai ...

[IAJ]

What is MEHNDI KI RAAT doing here hehe? :-)

[natalia]

That was a memorable video.
But what the hell is that weird song doing at the beginning and end of it?

[DHONI183]

I like Ian Chappell but not his arrogance:26:. He could have put it in much better words.

[IronMan2009]

there weren't any referrals in the Asia cup

That is why from 2nd match onwards they played him relatively easily. But in Tests they played 6 innings still some players had issues right through.
Against freakish bowler like Mendis you need atleast couple of matches to see what kind of bowler he is. Remember Sehwag went out of the crease blindly, Mendis threw a wide one. This was Asia cup. But Dhoni played him well in Asia cup as well as SL ODis. Some adapt immediately. Some take a couple of matches. It is natural.

[Savak]

Glad to see someone finally tell Ramiz Raja what his opinions are worth really. And Chappel is right, Ramiz's theory is rubbish.

In fact i would advice the Pakistani players to be vary of his carrom ball most of the times, Mendis isnt a huge spinner of the ball. But Mendis is a smart bowler. He has a conventional offspinner and then he has a googly which bounces and spins more. So no guarantee of perfect reading there.

The only solution is to play him as much as possible.

[McBoom]

Rameez didn't came off as a smart operator there. :raja

[pak_lions]

I can't wait til Pakistan play this trundler Mendis.. Afridi and Younis will school him! :)) Indians just can't play him.. lol

[IronMan2009]

I can't wait til Pakistan play this trundler Mendis.. Afridi and Younis will school him! :)) Indians just can't play him.. lol

Well that theory will be accepted if Warne and Murali don't have oustanding records against Pakistan.

[Iqbal'sh]

What a pointless thread. Let's see:

We have a veteran, no make that legendary cricketer Bhogle (how many matches did he play for the U-5's?) coming out with a remark that he attributes to Rameez. He himself is not even sure if he has got it 100% correct.

Don't see why Rameez gets vilified for Bhogle's lack of understanding about the game.