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Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 21:20
U like Schiller, my German teacher loves him. i heard of him while reading "Der Besuch Der Alten Dame" for my AS German. Do u like Friedrich Durrenmatt? u read Les Justes by Albert Camus?

Schiller
10th February 2005, 21:39
well i havent read the german version
but in english have read
the robbers (which kickstarted Sturm und Drang)
,aesthitcal education of man
on naive and sentimental poetry

all excellent works

others - Rilke, Heine and ofcoure Goethe

Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 21:46
thats him! My German teacher says Schiller is the one guy better than Goethe. Have you read Graham Greene? I will check now which Schiller play is mentioned in Der Besuch! I felt sorry for Ill, but it was inevitable! The funniest bit is Koby and Loby! I love how Claire always says the unexpected like the "herzanschlag" (heart attack) to the coroner and asking Der Turner (gymnast) if he strangled many people. And that was how Alfred died, a further symobilsation of how the Gullener were embracing Claire's ways!

Schiller
10th February 2005, 21:53
"thats him! My German teacher says Schiller is the one guy better than Goethe."

If Schiller had lived longer like Keats he might have oudone Goethe probably. Keep in mind their freindship is almost legendary.

"Have you read Graham Greene? "

Only "The end of the Affair"


Read Rilke's poems or Heine, quite quite good

Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 21:55
it was Wallenstein. there was a quotation from the prologue of it:

"Ernst ist das Leben, heiter die Kunst"

ernst is serious. serious is life, cheerful is art.

schiller also wrote maria stuart and william tell. he wrote historical plays i think.

Schiller
10th February 2005, 21:59
Schiller qas quite the historian, his 30yrs of Netherland war or something is heavily influential

never been intrested in those plays of his to be honest.
willem tell mary...

Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 22:06
its clear u cant do the umlaut on ur keyboard :)
Umar, can u speak German at all?
where did this interest in literature come from?
u like tolstoi and the other russian bloke lol?
wrote books:

war and peace
brothers (something)
anna karennina
crime and punishment

Schiller
10th February 2005, 22:15
"Umar, can u speak German at all? "

Other than Achtung, gutenmorgen and

Freude Schoner Gotterfunken
Tochter aus Elysium
Wir betreten feuertrunken
Himmlische dein heligtum
Deine Zauber binden wieder,
Was die Mode streng geteilt;
Alle Menschen werden Bru"der,
Wo dein sanfter Flu"gel weilt

I dont know german

"where did this interest in literature come from? "

read a lot in my childhood, plus being a poet i guess adds to it.

"u like tolstoi and the other russian bloke lol? "

Tosltoy and the other is Dostoevsky the one you mentioned

however

Tosltoy:
war and peace
anna karennina

Dostoevsky:

crime and punishment
Brothers karamazov.

Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 22:21
lol thank u Umar.lol great umlaut attempt there!
i dont know these phrases!
u have a site of ur poems?
read these by a friend of mine:

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~dd8v/mypoems.html

Schiller
10th February 2005, 22:42
not attempt
that was from Schiller's Ode to Joy"

and just read those poems, - pointless and mere usage of words without anything to say

Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 22:49
i think they are brill actually.
u write Urdu or English or both?

Schiller
10th February 2005, 22:52
you have a rt to your opinion ofcourse but i thought it were mere wording and not even that good.

never written in urdu though

Abdul Qadir 236
10th February 2005, 22:59
u ever tried limericks?
and the japanese 3 line poems?

11th February 2005, 01:03
*** are you chaps on about?

Schiller
11th February 2005, 01:03
he wanted to ask about schiller and poetry i think |-D

11th February 2005, 01:08
I know but the rest of the thread seems to be German transcipts :-D

Schiller
11th February 2005, 01:17
ha ha :-D

Geordie Ahmed
11th February 2005, 03:20
my favourite German word is FURCHTBAR, dont ask why

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 15:05
lol GA mine is Schwarzwa"lderkirschtorte

a" is the a umlaut pronounced like an e.

i like spelling my name too as Y in german is upsilon.

furchtbar means terrible i think.

Sehenswu"rdigkeiten is good too and Freizeitmo"glichkeiten.

Geordie Ahmed
11th February 2005, 16:01
I thought it meant average! i did German when i was at school, the first year i was learning it was good cos the teacher was decent BUT the following 2 years were awful, the teacher was rubbish!

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 17:29
nicht schlecht is more that kinda word meaning not bad.

entralinks
11th February 2005, 18:05
You guys are a black mark on the world of unboringness.

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 18:08
Ich bin nicht langweilig!

Schiller
11th February 2005, 18:11
:oD entra

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 18:26
ud be proud of that one Umar.

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 18:26
Umar, vous habitez au Canada?

Schiller
11th February 2005, 18:33
no speak francais parlez vous, j'accuse timbuktu

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 18:51
thats not exactly hard to work out!
ur in canada yaar arent u?

Schiller
11th February 2005, 19:57
i am in canada and its ok
bloody cold but ok

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 20:07
lol cant be worse than Belfast with rain every day!
any wonder wasti takes wickets over here!

Geordie Ahmed
11th February 2005, 20:22
one thing that annoys me about the British is that they moan about the Weather 24/7 a bunch of ungrateful . . . . . . .

they are like;

"Its too cold"
"Its too hot"
"Its too wet"
"Its too dry"
"Its too windy"
"Its too calm"

my response to these individuals is to sod off to frickin Greenland or something, then we'll see what they complain about |-F |-F

Schiller
11th February 2005, 20:24
no boysie come to canada and youll get a ****ing taste of it
who.reland

Abdul Qadir 236
11th February 2005, 21:29
lol GA u r right.

Geordie Ahmed
11th February 2005, 21:32
BTW Gary who on earth is SURAJA????

entralinks
11th February 2005, 23:06
Last year was the wettest in UK, as the media told. Right GA?

Hope this one's dry. Gotta play cricket. http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons6/69.gif

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 00:07
Suraja..............cant say.

12th February 2005, 00:08
Suraj. Damn I know him.

Unfortunately, My mum is a huge fan of all STARPLUS soaps.

I mean it!

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 00:12
Kahiin, Kyunki, Sanjivani, Khyun Hota Hai Pyarr are all good.


Suraja achah dost hai.

12th February 2005, 00:19
My mum's favs are:

Kyunki
Kahiin
Kumkum
Kahaani
Saara Akaash
Sanjivani
Kasuti
Bhabi

(I know)

My sibblings never miss Shaka Laka Boom Boom

sajjad
12th February 2005, 00:19
*** is that mate..
i dont recognize any of those names..

12th February 2005, 00:22
Nicknames for ALL soaps on STAR PLUS (Indian channel)

My family LOVES it. I have to reiterate daily that I had SKY installed for sports primarily. Thank God I have monoply over our TV

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 00:25
same here Hitman.

hey is there any1 nicer than Juhi in Sanjivani?

sajjad
12th February 2005, 00:26
ill leave u guys to discuss that..hehe!

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 00:27
lol

12th February 2005, 00:31
same here Hitman.

hey is there any1 nicer than Juhi in Sanjivani?

I've seen better but shes OK. Huge assets

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 00:34
she has one hell of a smile.
ok dear me Hitman!
huge assets.................cant agree, nice enough.

12th February 2005, 00:39
"huge assets.................cant agree, nice enough."

Noo need to compare her to Jordan here

sajjad
12th February 2005, 00:42
huge assettss

okayy
now im interested

u dont happen to have a pic of hers...do ya!

12th February 2005, 00:46
http://starplus.indya.com/images/serials/sanjivani/photogallery1/pg4.jpg

You can't judge by that pic though

sajjad
12th February 2005, 00:47
nothing on that link mate
u sure u got it right...or is my browser acting up

12th February 2005, 00:50
now

12th February 2005, 00:52
BTW Gary, I think Kashish in Kahiin is better looking. She's very pretty

sajjad
12th February 2005, 00:52
yeah i see her now...
i guess that doesnt really show EM but she is pretty pleasant looking as well......i like!

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 01:14
yeah I love Aamna Shariff too, wow what a lovely lady. kahiin to hoga with me and her!

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 01:15
Gurdeep looks better on tv than in that photo.

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 01:16
any1 seen Rakhee from Ujala that was on ATN?
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

12th February 2005, 01:29
Gurdeep looks better on tv than in that photo.

I agree

12th February 2005, 01:29
yeah I love Aamna Shariff too, wow what a lovely lady. kahiin to hoga with me and her!

She muslim? wow

sajjad
12th February 2005, 01:54
whose amina shariff

which sharif family is this
nawaz shariff or babra sharif!!

12th February 2005, 01:57
lol. neither.

she's another indian soap actress. quite pretty

sajjad
12th February 2005, 02:00
man, im so out of it

Abdul Qadir 236
12th February 2005, 12:26
ya she is a Muslim from a conservative background.