Its obvious why the pitch is so flat....... [Archive] - PakPassion

checkers.llvllaster

23rd February 2009, 16:36

So Faisal Iqbal can score a 100 and cement his place for the next year in the test team....... :jm

You have very high expectations from him. Slow down buddy, he needs more then a flat pitch to score a 100 :))

On a serious note, we never know, he might surprise us...

shaun3

23rd February 2009, 16:51

his last 100 was scored on this pitch v india wasnt' it? and then the pitch was a little more helpful to the seamers.

That sack of flesh is in fawad's way, I hope he fails....

DHONI183

23rd February 2009, 17:18

Makes quite a lot of sense:P!

ahmed16

23rd February 2009, 17:29

So Faisal Iqbal can score a 100 and cement his place for the next year in the test team....... :jm

I wouldnt be surprised.

spectator

23rd February 2009, 17:45

question for everyone. what if he gets a pair??

Usman Chadda

23rd February 2009, 17:49

What's the betting he still gets out to a part-time spinner like Samaraweera or Dilshan :D

kablooee87

23rd February 2009, 19:37

his last 100 was scored on this pitch v india wasnt' it? and then the pitch was a little more helpful to the seamers.

That sack of flesh is in fawad's way, I hope he fails....
The obsession with Fawad Alam is a bit over zealous.

Bublu Bhuyan

23rd February 2009, 19:40

question for everyone. what if he gets a pair??
Pak fans need to wish him the best in this Test. Pak winning should matter more than a player failing for you fans.

kablooee87

23rd February 2009, 19:40

Pak fans need to wish him the best in this Test. Pak winning should matter more than a player failing for you fans.
preach on brother man!

spectator

23rd February 2009, 19:51

Pak fans need to wish him the best in this Test. Pak winning should matter more than a player failing for you fans.

i think bhanja has the potential. he is lacking in confidence most of the time. he has to show the temprament of a test player. he has got good defence and at times can play aggresively as well. ive seen him play in middle east against likes of warne n he played really well. /

Boi

23rd February 2009, 19:54

If we want to save this Test Match, Unfortunately we will need him to do well!

prepare

23rd February 2009, 19:59

question for everyone. what if he gets a pair??

everyone has a bad game?

spectator

23rd February 2009, 20:03

everyone has a bad game?

not as simple as that. the kind of haters he s got here. they will say he should not even pass by the tv set who is showing a cricket match let alone playing by himself.

Infinitee786

23rd February 2009, 20:12

If we want to save this Test Match, Unfortunately we will need him to do well!
True i think we might have to persist with him for a while even though i prefer Fawad over him any day. If he does good then keep him if not then Fawad deserves a shot the guy is amazing and has definitely not been giving the credit thats due...

Maybe Afridi could be the only one that they would like to take that spot... if so..then i hope Afridi

Oxy

23rd February 2009, 20:28

not as simple as that. the kind of haters he s got here. they will say he should not even pass by the tv set who is showing a cricket match let alone playing by himself.

I'm no fan of the guy - I detest the politics surrounding his every inclusion

BUT

When he is picked in the starting XI, I'll back him 100% - and want him to win us the game hopefully!

prepare

23rd February 2009, 20:29

not as simple as that. the kind of haters he s got here. they will say he should not even pass by the tv set who is showing a cricket match let alone playing by himself.

I think the hate towards him is unfair but they dont see how he gets a place ahead of better performing players.............and dont forget with Butt, YK, Malik, Misbah and Akmal its not as though the batting needs experience!

Mohsin

23rd February 2009, 20:31

I'm no fan of the guy - I detest the politics surrounding his every inclusion

BUT

When he is picked in the starting XI, I'll back him 100% - and want him to win us the game hopefully!

This

dblock

23rd February 2009, 20:34

I'm backing a Faisal Iqbal run a ball triple century.

We can drop him otherwise.

See I support him and Pakistan :jm

Oxy

23rd February 2009, 20:42

Good luck!

shaun3

23rd February 2009, 20:44

The obsession with Fawad Alam is a bit over zealous.

How many cricketers can you name with a better domestic record?

he may not have YK or Misbah's experience, akthar's or asif's bad boy persona, or afridi's film star looks, but he consistently performs on a domestic level better than all of them.

My first and only loyalty is with performance, so I love this kid

dblock

23rd February 2009, 21:00

How many cricketers can you name with a better domestic record?

he may not have YK or Misbah's experience, akthar's or asif's bad boy persona, or afridi's film star looks, but he consistently performs on a domestic level better than all of them.

My first and only loyalty is with performance, so I love this kid

Can't be too many cricketers around in Pakistan domestic cricket to have ever averaged 56 after 5 years since his debut.

Bublu Bhuyan

23rd February 2009, 21:03

Good luck!
:))) :))) :)))

SameerM

23rd February 2009, 21:04

flat track bully will have to keep scoring to cement a place.. even if he does, until someone better is more consistent on all types of pitches, we will have to make do with what we have, i guess

kablooee87

23rd February 2009, 21:10

How many cricketers can you name with a better domestic record?

he may not have YK or Misbah's experience, akthar's or asif's bad boy persona, or afridi's film star looks, but he consistently performs on a domestic level better than all of them.

My first and only loyalty is with performance, so I love this kid
I didn't say he was no good. People just need to cool it with the I hope he fails bs.

shaun3

23rd February 2009, 21:16

I didn't say he was no good. People just need to cool it with the I hope he fails bs.

I think the sentiments are quite justified.

I say this with the utmost seriousness: it will benefit Pak cricket greatly in the long run if he fails.

If he fails miserably, it will actually benefit them in the short run as well, as his chances of getting selected in the very next match become slimmer.

Sultan Yusuf

23rd February 2009, 21:55

cricketkashmir

24th February 2009, 01:24

GREAT GREAT take..makes compplete sense.. amazing reason for the pitch being a nightmare for bowlers.. made me laugh like crazy

prepare

24th February 2009, 08:49

Faisal Iqbal hasn't regularly covered himself in glory but I fail to see why he gets so much flak considering only Inzi, YK and Yousuf have actually done anything of note over the last few years. Everyone else who's played deserves similar criticism.

But never has their been a batsmen who has had such a great first-class record who is performing well to come in and play apart from Misbah and look where he is now..............

I understand his selection against Sri Lanka spinners but in the longer run i feel there are better options..........Faisal Iqbal against India and Sri Lanka and Fawad Alam against everyone else? Would that work?

Sultan Yusuf

24th February 2009, 09:00

But never has their been a batsmen who has had such a great first-class record who is performing well to come in and play apart from Misbah and look where he is now..............

I understand his selection against Sri Lanka spinners but in the longer run i feel there are better options..........Faisal Iqbal against India and Sri Lanka and Fawad Alam against everyone else? Would that work?

The same thing can be said of Malik and misbah and co. I don't see them as long term success stories.

But I do agree that fawad alam deserves his chance, but it doesn't have to be just faisal who makes way....

Amjid Javed

24th February 2009, 09:37

Iqbal could be looking at another test ton in karachi.

Geordie Ahmed

24th February 2009, 10:05

prepare

24th February 2009, 10:06

The same thing can be said of Malik and misbah and co. I don't see them as long term success stories.

But I do agree that fawad alam deserves his chance, but it doesn't have to be just faisal who makes way....

Misbah and Malik have respectable Test records and shown that they can play at the highest level.............While its nothing personal Faisal Iqbal cant play pace bowling today Sangakkara and Jayawardene troubled Faisal with slight movement of the bowl as did Fernando........If he can play pace like he plays spin then he can play but he must improve his ability to play pace bowling first!

Sultan Yusuf

24th February 2009, 10:08

Well considering he is the worst performer in the team i think he is the one to make way for Alam

worst performer??? who's the judge of that? He is no worse than misbah or malik....in fact if you take the current test he's played better innings than both malik and misbah.

Personally I don't rate any of them. All 3 should be dropped. Moyo should come back with Fawad Alam and afridi

Geordie Ahmed

24th February 2009, 10:10

worst performer??? who's the judge of that? He is no worse than misbah or malik....in fact if you take the current test he's played better innings than both malik and misbah.

Personally I don't rate any of them. All 3 should be dropped. Moyo should come back with Fawad Alam and afridi

Yes - the numbers below say it all

41.93
35.86
25.62

Sultan Yusuf

24th February 2009, 10:13

Yes - the numbers below say it all

41.93
35.86
25.62

Look I'm not here to prove faisal iqbal is great player or anything. But he gets more flak than he deserves.

Malik and Misbah are just as mediocre -albeit with slightly better stats. We need some quality players.

Geordie Ahmed

24th February 2009, 10:15

Look I'm not here to prove faisal iqbal is great player or anything. But he gets more flak than he deserves.

Malik and Misbah are just as mediocre -albeit with slightly better stats. We need some quality players.

No he doesnt - I think he gets just the right amount considering he is pants

Misbah and Malik are comfortably better than him as the stats show (they are more than slightly better, its a difference of 10 and 15)

Sultan Yusuf

24th February 2009, 10:18

No he doesnt - I think he gets just the right amount considering he is pants

Misbah and Malik are comfortably better than him as the stats show (they are more than slightly better, its a difference of 10 and 15)

The sample is too small to make any definitive judgements....how many tests has misbah played??

Honestly geordie what is with your obsession with backing mediocre talent. It's almost it's your duty to back limited players....

Geordie Ahmed

24th February 2009, 10:23

The sample is too small to make any definitive judgements....how many tests has misbah played??

Honestly geordie what is with your obsession with backing mediocre talent. It's almost it's your duty to back limited players....

Says the that wants Afridi in the test side :))) :))) :)))

Its not about backing certain players - i just think Faisal Iqbal is garbage and you are WRONG by putting him in the same bracket as Malik-Misbah

Sultan Yusuf

24th February 2009, 10:26

Says the that wants Afridi in the test side :))) :))) :)))

Its not about backing certain players - i just think Faisal Iqbal is garbage and you are WRONG by putting him in the same bracket as Malik-Misbah

Afridi is an idiot, but he is not mediocre or limited in talent. Malik and Misbah are. There's a big difference.....

Faisal isn't brilliant i agree, but so are malik and misbah

Geordie Ahmed

24th February 2009, 10:27

Afridi is an idiot, but he is not mediocre or limited in talent. Malik and Misbah are. There's a big difference.....

Faisal isn't brilliant i agree, but so are malik and misbah

The end result is the same really - limited amount of runs

In the long run i dont want Malik in the test side - id much rather the likes of Amin, Alam etc start to be picked BUT i would certainly pick him ahead of Bhanja, Afridi etc