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Awesome Anjum
20th April 2009, 09:28
By Emily Wax
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, April 19, 2009

MUMBAI -- The sunny apartment had everything Palvisha Aslam, 22, a Bollywood producer, wanted: a spacious bedroom and a kitchen that overlooked a garden in a middle-class neighborhood that was a short commute to Film City, where many of India's Hindi movies are shot.

She was about to sign the lease when the real estate broker noticed her surname. He didn't realize that she was Muslim, he said. Then he rejected her. It was just six weeks after the November Mumbai terrorist attacks and Indian Muslims were being viewed with suspicion across the country. He then showed her a grimy one-room tenement in a Muslim-dominated ghetto. She felt sick to her stomach as she watched the residents fight over water at a leaky tap in a dark alley.

"That night I cried a lot. I was still an outcast in my own country -- even as a secular Muslim with a well-paid job in Bollywood," said Aslam, who had similar experiences with five other brokers and three months later is still sleeping on friends' sofas. "I'm an Indian. I love my country. Is it a crime now to be a Muslim in Mumbai?"

In the months after the brazen three-day Mumbai terrorist attacks, stories like Aslam's are common, even among some of the country's most beloved Bollywood actors, screenwriters and producers in India's most cosmopolitan city. The accusations of discrimination highlight the often simmering religious tensions in the world's biggest democracy, where Muslim celebrities can be feted on the red carpet one minute and locked out of quality housing the next.
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The phenomenon has become known here as "renting while Muslim." It raises questions that go to the heart of India's identity as a secular democracy that is home to nearly every major religion on the planet. Although India has a Hindu majority, it also has 150 million Muslims, one of the largest Muslim communities in the world.

"The new generation wants a better India that isn't bogged down in religious strife," said Junaid Memon, 34, a Muslim Bollywood director who is trying to promote religious harmony through his films and his Facebook site. "We shouldn't be an India that ghettoizes all Muslims to apartments near a mosque. This is a real test for modern India."

With national elections across India that began Thursday and last a month, some Muslim activists and Bollywood film directors are raising the issue with political parties and trying to form a voting bloc.

"This election, we have to talk about housing discrimination against Muslims," said Zulfi Sayed, a Muslim actor who is outspoken about the issue and is courting Hindus who agree with him. "In a shining India, this shouldn't be still such a common practice."

Muslims have long served as an important swing vote in India, since Hindus are increasingly divided among nearly 200 regional parties. Historically, India's Congress party won elections with the help of the Muslim vote by running on a platform of promoting religious diversity. The opposition Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party has, at times, used anti-Muslim sentiment to court votes while pledging to keep Hindu heritage alive.

India blames the Pakistan-based Islamist militant group Lashkar-i-Taiba for the November attack in which 10 gunmen left more than 170 people dead, including 40 Indian Muslims.

Many Muslims here feared the attacks would unleash cycles of revenge killing of the sort that have recurred throughout India's modern history, from the violence of partition between India and Pakistan in 1947 to the 1992 riots in Mumbai. In the days after November's Mumbai attacks, Muslims from all corners of society united, holding candlelight vigils with a message to protest terrorism and pledge loyalty to India. In the end, there was no communal violence.

But across the country, reports of housing discrimination have increased.

Afroz Alam Sahil, 21, a student activist at Jamia Millia Islamia College in New Delhi, said that more than a dozen students from states such as Uttar Pradesh and Bihar -- which have large Muslim populations -- have been unable to find housing since the Mumbai attacks.

"Some Muslim friends have dropped out of college because they have nowhere to stay," Sahil said. "There is intense suspicion. Sometimes I ask myself why I was born Muslim."

Rana Afroz, a Muslim editor with the newspaper the Hindu, is investigating the issue after spending three months unable to find a landlord willing to rent to her and her husband.

"It is ridiculous that I have to prove to non-Muslims that I am not making bombs in my kitchen," she said. "Is this really the modern India I live in?"

In India, Muslims are often segregated, and they experience high poverty rates and low literacy. Although they make up nearly 14 percent of India's population, they hold fewer than 5 percent of government posts and are just 4 percent of the student body in India's elite universities, according to a 2006 government report.

But there are few issues more emotional than housing, especially in Mumbai, formerly known as Bombay, India's pulsating city of dreams where aspiring farmers and filmmakers come from across the country to seek fame and fortune.
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"The ethos of Bombay is a city open to the world. The Muslims of this city feel that way, too. But the real question is why do we as Indian Muslims always have to be proving our loyalty?" asked Nawman Malik, a popular Bollywood producer who spent months searching for an apartment.

Mumbai has always had tensions over what are known here as "vegetarian buildings," where meat eaters are not allowed to live and are thus seen as devices to keep out Muslims and lower-caste Hindus. Those kinds of buildings have become more common in middle-class and posh neighborhoods as more merchants and industrialists from the neighboring state of Gujarat, where vegetarian Hinduism is the norm, migrate to India's richest city.

Managers of vegetarian buildings say they don't want the smell of meat in their hallways. But they often also explain their rules by saying they are worried about security and want like-minded residents to live together.

"Say you check one renter and they seem okay. But then they go to mosque and bring back their bearded friends and those friends are terrorists," said Raj Pathak, a vegetarian-building manager in downtown Mumbai. "Why do we have to live with such fears?"

Muslims, who have seen housing discrimination and the number of vegetarian buildings spike after every terrorist attack, see the issue as blatant discrimination.

"Everyone knows the vegetarian-only restriction is code language for 'No Muslims,' " said Naved Khan, a Muslim real estate broker who is trying to help Bollywood's Muslims find housing.

On a recent afternoon, Aslam, the producer, hung out at a cafe, as she sometimes does so she doesn't get on the nerves of those she is staying with. She wore jeans and a hooded sweat shirt.

Until January, she was living with a Hindu roommate. Then their lease ended. Her roommate was getting married.

"So I thought I would get my own place as a successful adult," said Aslam, who had come to Mumbai from Kolkata with dreams of landing a Bollywood job. "My mom was really proud of me. Now she's really upset."

A broker recently showed her a house in a working-class neighborhood. "It looked haunted. But I was denied even that," she said.

Another broker gave her advice: "Madam, live with a Hindu roommate. Only then will you get a flat."

Special correspondent Ria Sen in New Delhi contributed to this report.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/18/AR2009041800792_3.html

Keith
20th April 2009, 09:37
Disgraceful. Same thing happened in USA after 911.

AZ
20th April 2009, 09:56
Incredible India

Garuda
20th April 2009, 10:24
Yah, in some areas it happens.

Last week there was a sales guy (muslim) came to my home and after some chat he told me that he doesn't get house on rent when house owners find him muslim. It differs from area to area in Bangalore.

But the guy was too humble and I didn't find any frustration in his words and face. Rather he said "I really can't blame the house owners as its really risky these days for them too".

I donno what the solution can be but this is not good.

AZ
20th April 2009, 10:30
how was it risky for the owners?

Garuda
20th April 2009, 10:38
how was it risky for the owners?
God forbid if the tenant comes out to have some links with some terror organizations then the house gets sealed. And knowing the Indial legal system as a house owner you keep visiting the court for years. No one wants to get into that trouble.

Though the rules say that you need to inform the local police about any tenents you are having and their details. But lot of people don't know the rule and think its better not to give their house to muslims.


Same thing happens for batchelors in some areas where the houseowners don't give houses to singles. So its not cuz of a perticular religion but due to the risk that comes with it.

Garuda
20th April 2009, 10:40
how was it risky for the owners?
And you may not believe, lot of muslim house owners also don't like to keep muslim tenants if they donno them. especially to single muslims.

Indieview
20th April 2009, 11:21
^^ I agree with you, In Bangalore Houseowner wouldn't want to take chance/risk of being labeled as his/her house used for any unlawful/terror activities and inturn gets sealed forever. The first question my house owner asked me was, What's your second name (to check my religion), apparently I live in a street were my neighbours follow Islam.

AZ
20th April 2009, 11:31
so Muslims = terrorists? is that what you're suggesting?

Garuda
20th April 2009, 11:57
so Muslims = terrorists? is that what you're suggesting?
No I don't. did I mention that in my post.

Read it again yaar.

See I will not give my house on rent to any guy who goes to attend Sri rama sene meetings. Does that mean every hindu is a fundamentalist?

That sales man rather understood better. He said its due to few idiots we are suffering.

Got me?

Garuda
20th April 2009, 12:03
^^ I agree with you, In Bangalore Houseowner wouldn't want to take chance/risk of being labeled as his/her house used for any unlawful/terror activities and inturn gets sealed forever. The first question my house owner asked me was, What's your second name (to check my religion), apparently I live in a street were my neighbours follow Islam.


I am a house owner in Bangalore and had given my house to Iranian muslims before. Few students. But I am aware of the rules and hence registered them with the local police so that if there is any issue they are linked, I will be safe.

But there are lot of people who don't want to get into that path at all.

Also its something to do with demand vs supply. If there are less tenants than houses available the same owners will take that risk and give their houses to anyone.

Golden arm
20th April 2009, 12:34
The message is quite loud and clear!!!!

"I'm an Indian. I love my country. Is it a crime now to be a Muslim in Mumbai?"

yes it is!

Indiafan
20th April 2009, 14:50
The message is quite loud and clear!!!!

"I'm an Indian. I love my country. Is it a crime now to be a Muslim in Mumbai?"

yes it is!

You didnt read a word of what others typed. Even muslims themselves are reluctant to give houses to muslims

AZ
20th April 2009, 15:10
No I don't. did I mention that in my post.

Read it again yaar.

See I will not give my house on rent to any guy who goes to attend Sri rama sene meetings. Does that mean every hindu is a fundamentalist?

That sales man rather understood better. He said its due to few idiots we are suffering.

Got me?

that would be a different situation altogether, you would have probable cause to be suspicious...did the salesman you encounter go to any religious gatherings?

Golden arm
20th April 2009, 15:34
You didnt read a word of what others typed. Even muslims themselves are reluctant to give houses to muslims

I agree!

Shubana Azmi: ?????

Wat happened to her even when she wanted to buy a flat in posh area of Mombay!

Garuda
20th April 2009, 16:23
that would be a different situation altogether, you would have probable cause to be suspicious...did the salesman you encounter go to any religious gatherings?
I just gave an example. Anyone part of a hindu organization may not be like shiv sena or Sri rama sene.

Same way if one is a muslim doesn't mean he is terrorist. But with house demand so high and they can get a hindu IT professional couple easily why they will take a risk of giving their house to a single muslim ?

It is weird but think from the other side. he has every right to be little suspicious. I don't support it but its not all their fault also.

siddharth
20th April 2009, 16:30
All owners have to do is inform the police .What is the need of alienating Muslims and all this confusion? One of my Muslim friend had some issues finding home in Pune .But then he told that he was coming back from US .Houseowner was so happy and convinced :D

Golden arm
20th April 2009, 17:12
what? She got laid? Who is Shubana Azmi?


I understand it pinched you badly!

just to make things clear for other friends!


By Farzana Versey

26 August, 2008
Countercurrents.org


Shabana Azmi believes the moderate Muslim voice is never heard. Ever since she spoke out about not being able to get a flat in Mumbai, she has been in the news.

Recently, Shabana Azmi has been consecrated as a Muslim messiah. The reason? She said she could not buy an apartment in Mumbai. “I mean if Javed Akhtar and Shabana Azmi cannot get a flat in Mumbai because they are Muslims, then what are we talking about?”


NEW DELHI: Noted Indian actress, Member of Parliament and renowned social activist Shabana Azmi revealed that she and her husband Javed Akhtar could not buy a flat in Indian city of Mumbai due to religious discrimination.
http://www.apakistannews.com/shabana-azmi-could-not-buy-home-in-mumbai-due-to-religious-bias-76868

srh
20th April 2009, 17:12
There are lot of hardships faced by muslims in India because of their religion. But it is not just muslims. Other minorities also face huge problems and even the lowest caste of hinduism also faces major hardships.

siddharth
20th April 2009, 17:25
There are lot of hardships faced by muslims in India because of their religion. But it is not just muslims. Other minorities also face huge problems and even the lowest caste of hinduism also faces major hardships.
To be honest the lower caste hindus have more trouble than minorities like Muslims and Christians .

As for minorities in particular,when u live in such a diverse society certain differences and negatives do occur.Unfortunately .But most of the times things are fine .

Other wise there wouldn't have been such large number of Christian/Muslim eductaional institutions such as schools,colleges and hospitals .All communities have given plenty of opportunities in jobs through reservations etc .

Oxy
20th April 2009, 17:35
So the average Muslim renting a house has to be registered with the local police?

I'd leave a country that made me do that.

Thats interfering with my civil rights!

In the UK - only 2 types of people have to be registered with local police.

1) Sex Offenders
2) Asylum seekers

Golden arm
20th April 2009, 17:48
So the average Muslim renting a house has to be registered with the local police?

I'd leave a country that made me do that.

Thats interfering with my civil rights!

In the UK - only 2 types of people have to be registered with local police.

1) Sex Offenders
2) Asylum seekers

3) Pakistani Students ???? after the recent event

srh
20th April 2009, 17:48
I'd leave a country that made me do that.
Oxy not everybody has this choice like you have. Otherwise lot of people would leave India and Pakistan.

Oxy
20th April 2009, 17:50
3) Pakistani Students with beards and pushtun background

Well thats still pending...

Garuda
20th April 2009, 18:03
So the average Muslim renting a house has to be registered with the local police?

I'd leave a country that made me do that.

Thats interfering with my civil rights!

In the UK - only 2 types of people have to be registered with local police.

1) Sex Offenders
2) Asylum seekers


Not for muslims only. The rule says the house owner should register their tenants details (irrespective of religion). Same is also expected if you are keeping maid servant at home.

Oxy
20th April 2009, 18:20
Not for muslims only. The rule says the house owner should register their tenants details (irrespective of religion). .

OK - original poster didnt make that clear...seems fair enough

siddharth
20th April 2009, 19:05
So the average Muslim renting a house has to be registered with the local police?

I'd leave a country that made me do that.

Thats interfering with my civil rights!

In the UK - only 2 types of people have to be registered with local police.

1) Sex Offenders
2) Asylum seekers
Not just for Muslims, each and every person regardless of their caste and religin i mean .That makes things more easy and solve all sorts of confusions.

Didn't i say ''All Owners''.

Oxy
20th April 2009, 19:20
Not just for Muslims, each and every person regardless of their caste and religin i mean .That makes things more easy and solve all sorts of confusions.

Didn't i say ''All Owners''.

It wasnt you Sid yaar...


I am a house owner in Bangalore and had given my house to Iranian muslims before. Few students. But I am aware of the rules and hence registered them with the local police


I assumed from this comment it was just Muslims who had to be registered....

AZ
20th April 2009, 23:27
hmm yea the earlier posts did not clarify that ALL tenants need to be registered at the police station

Mercenary
21st April 2009, 01:57
The article is a little misleading in that it suggests this is an issue that has started after the Mumbai attacks when in reality it's always been there.

Big Daddy
21st April 2009, 02:02
Not just for Muslims, each and every person regardless of their caste and religin i mean .That makes things more easy and solve all sorts of confusions.

Didn't i say ''All Owners''.


Thats a lie, i saw the movie hera pheri and also the sequel and never did babu rao register the tenants with the police. or was that part edited by the censors. dude fold ur hands coz this is a booooooom head shot.

ImranS
21st April 2009, 05:06
The article is a little misleading in that it suggests this is an issue that has started after the Mumbai attacks when in reality it's always been there.

this is true. unfortunately, i have several family members in India who have endured it from much before islamic terrorism was a fear factor in India.

indian1127
21st April 2009, 05:30
Bias exists in Indian society, we as a community have a long way to go.

Muslims specially have not been treated right and its not just housing the bias exists in credit card applications, consumer/commercial loans etc. No excuses as Indian I am ashamed of that but very hopefull cause I have been witnesing a speedy change over the years.

In my building we have around 30% muslim residents and my own tenant is a muslim. Fact is you will not have much problem get a house in rent if you are a family (muslim or otherwise) but you will probably go through a lengthy screening (worse than a visit to a dentist and proctologist) if you are single.

There are many more biases that exists, there are strict non vegetarian buildings that do not allow meat eating tenants (hindus too). People in the media industry (filmy) are not allowed in some housing societies. There are Muslims housing societies which do not allow non-muslims, but the worst probably are the societies who do not allow single people to rent apartments.

Garuda
21st April 2009, 05:37
There are many more biases that exists, there are strict non vegetarian buildings that do not allow meat eating tenants (hindus too). People in the media industry (filmy) are not allowed in some housing societies. There are Muslims housing societies which do not allow non-muslims, but the worst probably are the societies who do not allow single people to rent apartments.

:)) :)) correct.

Gujju societies don't allow who eat non-veg.

When I first moved to Bangalore 11 years back and was staying in a 1 BHK, the house owner gave me a notice to vacant the house cuz I cooked non-veg. :)))

Wasim_Waqar
21st April 2009, 21:59
I am a house owner in Bangalore and had given my house to Iranian muslims before. Few students. But I am aware of the rules and hence registered them with the local police so that if there is any issue they are linked, I will be safe.

But there are lot of people who don't want to get into that path at all.

Also its something to do with demand vs supply. If there are less tenants than houses available the same owners will take that risk and give their houses to anyone.

Where do you own the house? Around Bannerghatta Road? Koramangala (my home for 2 months?)

the Great Khan
21st April 2009, 23:22
Just proves that the two nation theory was correct..if there was no Pakistan this would be happenin in Lahore and Karachi too..today the excuse is terror..2moro it will be something else..the Muslims of India need to wake up and smell the coffee!!

googly
21st April 2009, 23:31
Just proves that the two nation theory was correct..if there was no Pakistan this would be happenin in Lahore and Karachi too..today the excuse is terror..2moro it will be something else..the Muslims of India need to wake up and smell the coffee!!

Exactly....we've already seen the success of the two nation theory in '71 where up to 3 million people were murdered according to different sources and we're also seeing the success of the two nation theory in action right now in Balochistan and NWFP.

Garuda
22nd April 2009, 04:40
Where do you own the house? Around Bannerghatta Road? Koramangala (my home for 2 months?)
I am near HBR layout.