Mongoose MMi3 - 1st Redesign of a cricket bat since 1771. Worth buying? [Merged]

[HuZi]

http://i40.tinypic.com/30icn7m.jpg

It promises to be as revolutionary in cricket as graphite rackets and titanium clubs were in tennis and golf. That’s the Mongoose bat, designed for Twenty20 batsmen – long handle, short blade, 20 per cent more power, 15 per cent more speed and a silicon chip that can predict the swing of the ball. Okay, we made the last one up but you get the drift – this bat can apparently do almost anything and, best of all, it’s legal, having received the MCC’s seal of approval. The bat will make its first-class debut next week in the Twenty20 Cup as Derbyshire’s Stuart Law takes on the Durham attack. The manufacturers aren’t afraid of hyping it up; it is the “single most radical change to cricket equipment since 1771”, a “game-changing weapon” ensuring that “run accumulation has been replaced by all-out attack”. Or, as Law put it, a “weapon of mass destruction”. Maybe it does have that silicon chip after all.



Cricinfo

That looks like a baseball club ! awful

[Inswinger]

http://i40.tinypic.com/30icn7m.jpg





Cricinfo

That looks like a baseball club ! awful
Stop dissing baseball. It's not a club, we call it a bat!!!!!

[On_the_up]

Would be interesting to see Stuart law in action with it. Can see the batsman getting into trouble playing certain type of shots.

[TAK]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8064653.stm

[AZ]

looks hideous

[Mohsin]

WHY?

They'll be giving batsmen a 50 run head start if they get a catch whilst fielding next...and in 20 years time it'll be bowling machines bowling instead of people!

[bone_thug786]

should even it out by giving bowlers a bowl that is already reverse swinging. they are ruining cricket by making it a batsmens game.

[12thMan]

So the blade is shorter? Possibly some hits on short balls. Might be good.

When Lillee came out with Aluminum bat he was probably not breaking a rule and rule was changed after it. I am not sure about the materials (graphite or something) in Ponting bat and if rules were also changed after that.

It looks more like a basball bat as hits are mostly from bottom part, except it is broader than baseball bat. But in basball the hits to the player are a walk or a brawl

[Awesome Anjum]

Are they not counting the Woodworm design of cricket bats as an authentic redesign.

[shahzadddd]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/05/27/Mongoose4.jpg

Stuart Law used it last night, but only for 10 balls.

Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/may/27/mongoose-bat-twenty20-stuart-law

Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/twenty20/5370046/Mongoose-cricket-bat-set-to-take-Twenty20-by-storm.html

[OZGOD]

So you can have this Mongoose bat but no graphite sticker on the back? Hmm.

[Infinitee786]

So you can have this Mongoose bat but no graphite sticker on the back? Hmm.
I thought it was a graphite-coated bat that you couldnt have (like what Ponting had)?? but i could be mistaken....

[residentevil]

graphite coating would have lead to bats with advanced materials to improve hitting. Before you know, we would have a special bat worth a million dollars in play.
Mongose has its advantage and disadvatages too.
with it a batsman will always be swinging it like a baseball bat, a surprise bouncer and he will be in trouble.

[rekhan]

OK, this is my first thread on PP, so forgive me if I make any rookie mistake. I was browsing through the pictures on CricInfo and found this picture. What's up with the mongoose bat that Stuart Law is holding during this match of Nottinghamshire v Derbyshire, Twenty20 Cup. Does anyone know the story behind this picture?
http://content.cricinfo.com/countycricket2009/content/image/406606.html

[Waseem]

It looks like a baseball bat.
To be honest, this sort of bat shouldn't be allowed in CRICKET.
We have already made enough changes in cricket and some of them are quite positive changes. As far as pitch length, ball size, bats shapes are concerned, no one should be allowed to make any changes.
What's next 30 yards pitch????

[Keith]

Tall fellow? Looks weired.

[nikred]

wow.....thats a ridiculously long handle.

[Gollum]

It looks funny, not too different than a tennis racket, a wood racket!

[161]

It's a specially designed bat for T20 .. supposed to be more powerful.

[Infinitee786]

Its funny how this game all changes that are made regarding bats and their various types of wood, coatings, size, width etc are not scrutinised when the games is already being skewed towards the batsmen.

The balance between bat and ball has been lob-sided for a while and the ICC once again have been too ignorant to realise.

Bowlers have absolutely nothing going for them in the shorter formats.
Restrictions have been increased, batting powerplays, ball changes (more harder,less older---taking reverse-swing outta the equation)...when will we see a change that helps bowlers. They should let bowlers polish/scuff the ball whichever way the want. At least that way we will see reverse-swing more often and it will make the game more exciting.

[abc_to_xyz]

lol.. Icc! U r not ready to apply refering system while u r ready 2 to such kind of stupid things.

[Infinitee786]

Personally I reckon this bat would be PERFECT for Razzaq...He has a sort of golf-like swing when he wants to hit out. The extra length means there's more power when the contact is made with the ball. He would be hitting more sixes than ever!!!

[IAJ]

wow.....thats a ridiculously long handle.

And even a ridiculously short blade.

[dblock]

It was reviewed this past week, still can't get over the shape of it.

Must be much harder to play bowlers who get a lot of bounce?

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[LionHeart]

Has anyone seen one of these in action yet?

Mongoose.jpg

Found this several months old article on the British newspaper, The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/twenty20/5370046/Mongoose-cricket-bat-set-to-take-Twenty20-by-storm.html


Has it really taken T20 cricket by storm yet? or will it?

Hope granddad Jayasuriya won't hear about this, couple of blows from one of these could extend his international career :( But we're outta luck Law is new assistant coach!



P.s sincere apologies if you have discussed this before.

[dani2k]

Read in Cricinfo that Hayden "is likely" to use it in the IPL. Don't like the looks of it!

http://www.cricinfo.com/ipl2010/content/image/451552.html?object=418064;page=1

[Yaser]

wasn't the woodworm, with indented edges, the first 'redesign' ?

[Dare2Dream]

Bowl fast and short rib roasters, this will be good against medium pacers and spin but no go against superfast.

[Cover Drive]

wasn't the woodworm, with indented edges, the first 'redesign' ?
Woodworm's bats have a curve near the shoulder of the bat. But that is not redesigning the bat. In this case they have made the handle of the bat 1.5 inches longer by shorting the face of the bat by 1.5 iches. The total height of the full bat is same but it is just that the handle is made a bit longer. This makes easier to hit thus in result Newbery have a bat which is 20/20 bat and that has inch shorter blade and inch longer handle

[Sledger]

Sorry but that bat is just crap. Why would you want to take wood off your weapon just for more leverage, you're severly stacking the odds against yourself for more power when most modern, heavy bats will suffice. Not only that but what about when you want to unleash a Dilscoop and it comes off the 3 meter handle straight into your jaw? Yummy. :afridi

[RexRex]

Anyone remember the shoulderless bat used by Lance Cairns in the eighties ? That never caught on.Looks a bit like the mongoose.

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/51835543.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF193CC300C081D9F4700DBF3E177A0A169C9 AA3930618AB5A482

[WasimWaqarInzy]

My school cricket team was priveleged enough to be hosting a taster session for the bat... I tried it out, its okay I guess. I think itll take getting used to, and could be pretty lethal if you did get used to it, but i struggled against yorkers, surprisingly, with it.

[wiseguy]

ICC should ban this peice of sh*T

[WNC]

It looks like a paddle of of a boat, maybe better for rowing? Hmmm....

[sazz]

Chennai Super Kings opener Matthew Hayden on Thursday launched the Mongoose bat, designed specifically to meet the new distilled demands of Twenty20 cricket.

The Mongoose bat is a shorter, more rigid blade is teamed with a longer, more flexible handle to offer increased power, faster bat speed and better manoeuvrability.

The splice is incorporated into the handle to remove any dead spot from the hitting area and the shoulders have been reconfigured to add weight to the back of the blade.

Former Australia opener Hayden is confident that the new bats, with a bigger sweet spot, will help the batsmen hit harder, faster and further.

"The Mongoose has the potential to revolutionise cricket. Without changing your technique, the bat allows you to hit the ball harder and further. Its power is phenomenal and without a doubt, I am looking forward to playing many successful games with it," Hayden said in Chennai.

The Mongoose is poised to rewrite record books in the same way that titanium-headed drivers and graphite rackets revolutionised golf and tennis. Because it can be lighter in weight while still offering great power, the Mongoose is ideal for players of all abilities and juniors.

In spite of its radical design, the MCC has confirmed that the patent-pending Mongoose bat is legal and is allowed to be used throughout India and Indian sub-continent all levels of cricket.

For the IPL, Mongoose Cricket is launching two limited edition models of the Mongoose MMi3. The MMi3 super premium is made of pro-grade English willow, only 40 super premium bats will be launched throughout India, each bat will be uniquely numbered from 1-40 and will be hand signed by Hayden.

The MMi3 premium is made of grade one English willow, and a limited range of 60 numbered and hand signed bats by Hayden will be available.

The bats will be available at limited retailers throughout the eight cities of the IPL.

http://cricket.rediff.com/report/2010/mar/12/ipl-2010-matthew-hayden-launches-mongoose-bats.htm

[sazz]

Maybe they should develop a ball which doesn't swing/spin. :13:

Is this the death of cricket..?

[asifp]

this bat was made for Razzaq!

[sillyfan]

Save your money, just get an alloy baseball bat and flatten the end! Seems Baseball has a big influence on T20 style of play in many aspects! I am just waiting till they get foul balls in T20!

[Hari Sombar]

The "Mongoose" bat

The handle is about the same length as the wood, and I suspect thicker too ?

Is that legal ?

Everything he hit was going to the boundary with that thing.

[murphyslaw79]

more about the batsman, then the bat. he probably would have hit them even if he was using a normal bat.

Its an advertising gimmick, and a new twist, which ppl are willing to try in the IPL. He probably got paid a shed load to use it.

[Kriketer]

Is Hayden actually using that mango bat in ipl?

[Gollum]

I think this 'bat' is for only T20 format, and that too for players who are supremely confident in their ability to smash every ball out of the park. It would be useless for lower order and more traditional batsmen who have a tendency to block a ball once in a while which you can't do with this bat.

[LegendsXI]

would love to see someone defend akhtar's bouncer with that..

[Zaad]

coolest bat ever...

[rhussain33]

Hayden used this today and smashed, 93 runs off 43 balls, with 9 fours and 7 sixes.

It was blatantly something to do with the bat, you can see it in the way the ball was coming off and travelling far across...

He practised alot with it and is used to it...

Afridi and Razzaq and Nazir should give it a bash

[saamry]

Innovation is fine, and good to see new bat. How about bringing some innovation to the ball?

[Javelin]

It would be ok for the last 5 overs, for a batsman who's well set.

Could batsmen use a 'normal' bat to start off with, until they get set, and then switch to the Mongoose type when they want to go on the attack, say in the Powerplay or last 5 overs of an ODI ?

[giri26]

would love to see someone defend akhtar's bouncer with that..

unfortunately we will never know the result of that.

[arsalan660]

I think this is good bat for big hitters. It will be good for Imran Nazir

[Poison]

Nope. It will be rubbish against any decent pace bowler who pitches it short. Imagine getting cramped for room and instead of getting it high on the bat copping one right in the ribs. Might be good for T20s, and even if so, only in the subcontinent.

[umerpervaiz1]

Check this latest innovation in Cricket. Twenty20 Cricket announces Mongoose Bat.
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[socrates73]

Nice innovation. I would love to see Shahid Afridi playing with Mangoose bating.

[socrates73]

I think this bat should be tried, but only in T20 format.

[90MPH]

I'm still not convinced about this bat, yeah it might work on slow pitches in India, but anywhere where the ball bounces at throat height it will be quite useless.

[Cover Drive]

There is already a thread on it so MoDS shouldn't mind merging it.

Anyways, it is very good bat and I have started to like it. Now moore and more bats are being made for hitting.

[Zu456]

My friend just got a mongoose bat and he says it isnt any good. He says is really hard to defend with it which you have to do sometimes and says it takes a lot of time to get used to it. He says he gets better results with a normal criket bat. I have another friend who has one and he says its great. But i think he might be saying this as he comes to bat at 6 so he normaly just has to hit runs quick and slog or he doesnt want to admit he wasted a lot of money :)). Has anyone bought one and is it really worth getting? (They both play 50 over hard ball cricket)

[Paradox]

I've used the Mongoose bat - and what Hayden does with it (in the IPL) is the only thing you can do really. It's NOT as tough as defend the ball with the Mongoose as your friend is saying - you can defend the ball if you time it well with proper technique, easily. BUT - it's best you come in with a NORMAL bat, get set at the crease, and when you're confident you can hit the ball around, bring the Mongoose in (that's what Hayden does). Cause once you have that Mongoose in your hand, you really really don't want to defend the ball.. unless you must. It FLIES. ;-)

[Cover Drive]

As you pointed it depends on your game. For example, if you just focus primarily on hitting/slogging then there are high amount of chances that you will be successful whereas as far defending goes you have to practice to get used to it. Anything different needs time to get used to it so will Mongoose MMi3

The good thing about MMi3 is that due to its size whole bat is sweetspot. So where ever you hit you are confident that you have struck it properly as the whole bat is sweetspot.

Another Mongoose bat which is good is CoR3. That is a T20 bat which is legal to use. It has inch short blade and inch shorter handle which makes it easier for batmaker to have more amount of wood for its weight due to wood which is being taken off.