Questions Regarding Cricket Equipment (Bats, Pads, Gloves etc)

[ghias]

Hi everyone,

Well, I'm new to actually playing cricket and I'm about to buy my first bat and plan on joining a club here in Islamabad soon. So I'm here for a bit of advice. Before this I've practiced a lot with stumps as bat with tennis balls so naturally I'm spoiled by its feather light weight and non existent pickup. Now even some tape ball bats feel heavy to me and hinder my natural flow and timing. Guess thats an inevitable result of using stumps for practicing for too long :( . Anyway, I'm a slow boring batsman, kind of like Kallis or Dravid, not a slogger at all and don't hit sixses. So I would need a bat which has feather light weight and easy pickup and lasts long. These are about the only two requirements that I have I guess.

I'm a bit low on budget here and after reading almost every post in this thread so far, I've gathered that everyone seems to like AS V3 and AS V10 and they kind of fall in my budget as well (although V10 stretches it). But I don't know whats the lowest weight they come in. Does anyone know the minimum weight either of these two come in?

If anyone have any other recommendation, please tell me. Thanks :)

[cricketer13]

Hi everyone,

Well, I'm new to actually playing cricket and I'm about to buy my first bat and plan on joining a club here in Islamabad soon. So I'm here for a bit of advice. Before this I've practiced a lot with stumps as bat with tennis ball so naturally I'm spoiled by its feather light weight and non existent pickup. Now even some tape ball bats feel heavy to me and hinder my natural flow and timing. Guess thats an inevitable result of using stumps for practicing for too long :( . Anyway, I'm a slow boring batsman, kind of like Kallis or Dravid, not a slogger at all and don't hit sixses. So I would need a bat which has feather light and easy pickup and lasts long. These are about the only two requirement I have I guess.

I'm a bit low on budget here and after reading almost every post in this thread so far, I've gathered that everyone seems to like AS V3 and AS V10 and they kind fall in my budget as well (although V10 stretches it). But I don't know whats the lowest weight they come in. Does anyone know the minimum weight either of these two come in?



If anyone have any other recommendation, please tell me. Thanks :)

Both ASV10 AND ASV3 come in 2.8 (lightest) but pickup is even lighter. I would recommend that you try CA10000 PLUS and MB Bubber Sher as those two bats are real gem.

[askmoi]

Tom, mind telling where Adidas bats are made (I am sure it will be India but just to confirm it) and if possible maker?

Thanks mate

i think they are made by SG in India....

[askmoi]

Mongoose :)

i actually tried a mongoose bat just this sunday....one of the opposition players had one.....but i felt it was a bit bottom heavy for me....

[nam]

thanks & yes both sites do ship to Canada. I got the Matrrixx Gladiator LE bat from www.onlinestockist.com and CA plus Extra Power bat from www.batsandmore.com.

thanks buddy..

Both ASV10 AND ASV3 come in 2.8 (lightest) but pickup is even lighter. I would recommend that you try CA10000 PLUS and MB Bubber Sher as those two bats are real gem.

well i use 2.7.. and a friend of mine even has a 2.4!! (AS) so really if you want a feather weight go for a 2.4 if you can find it..

[Cover Drive]

Nam,

Is it a harrow size bat?

Askmoi,

Which Mongoose did you use? MMi3 or CoR3?

[nam]

Nam,

Is it a harrow size bat?



no idea what a harrow size bat is.. but i know it was a custom made and its just like a normal bat.. but apparently he is not too happy with it..

question: i tried to look for a shop to buy an AS V10 that can ship to canada but i couldnt find one.. im really impressed with this bat... so thick and if u middle the ball it travels like no other!

[Cover Drive]

Nam,

Most of the online retailers don't have AS V10 in stocks yet. Best bet would be to get it from AS factory. Yes, they will ship it to Canada

[Oxy]

Whats the verdict on this bat (Harrow) for my son for next season?

NEWBERY SERIES 1 EXTRA COVER

http://www.thecricketauthority.com/Newbery-Series-1-5Junior-Bat-pre-knocked-In-Size-6.aspx

(I wouldnt pay that amonut, hope to get it for a 1/3 of that tbh)

[Oxy]

On ebay, an Indian seller is selling 10 bats for £190!!!

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/chesssquare/cktbat_10.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-PC-CUSTOM-HAND-MADE-GRADE-CRICKET-BAT-LOWEST-PRICE-/230127062158?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM&hash=item3594a44c8e

[Atif]

On ebay, an Indian seller is selling 10 bats for £190!!!

http://i701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/chesssquare/cktbat_10.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/10-PC-CUSTOM-HAND-MADE-GRADE-CRICKET-BAT-LOWEST-PRICE-/230127062158?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM&hash=item3594a44c8e

I like the postage cost - Postage: £109.99 Seller's Standard Rate

[Opener]

But these are Kashmir willow bats.

[Opener]

There have lately been a lot of questions on AS V10 lately. I got one from the AS factory about three weeks ago. I will post the pictures soon. I still have not been able to use it in a match (our weird schedule and my week long vacation).

Just from initial tests the ping is amazing. It has very thick edges for a 2lb 8 bat. As for the wood being a bit dry I am not sure. The face of the bat was oiled and seemed fine but the back needed a coat although it was pre-oiled.

The price is indeed 148 US dollars. The other price does not make sense because the Pak price 11000 Rs. converts to about 129 dollars. How could they ship it for less than their Pak price.

Although they do price a bit more attractively in markets where they have more competition like Australia.

[Cover Drive]

Oxy Bhai, its a good bat for juniors and there is no doubt about the bat durability or craftsmanship. We all know how good Newbery is! Series 1 is a good one as its profile and shape is very well balanced.

those Ebay bats are Kashmiri Willow. One thing I would suggest everyone is that never ever trust Indian seller on Ebay especially when he is saying its English Willow, original bat of specific brand etc because most of the time they turn out to be fake

[Knightrider]

Great bat Majid Bhai!

So when did you buy CCX and which one is it?
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/kookccx.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/kookccx2.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/supergradebats1.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/kookccx4.jpg

I checked the weight of this bat( kook CcX) today and it weighs 1165 grams which is about 2.9lb. The pick up is like 2.6 bat and really nice ping and will improve more when its fully played in. Grains are slightly wonky but willow quality still looks lush. Uzair Miyyan keep the price of this bat a secret and don't tell anyone where I got the bat from.

[FreddyBo]

One of the best cricketing thread I've ever seen. Wow!

Just got my hands on a brand new cricket kit. Got myself some Ricky Ponting softs, which are pretty nice but not quite what I wanted. Also got a Gray Nicolls Ignite (pro perf). Amazing pickup and balance. Will post an update with pictures once I try it out on the field in a couple of weeks.

Cover Drive, your Krakatoa is a great looking piece of willow. Any updates on how its playing? I might get myself one at the beginning of next season if I'm not completely satisfied with my Ignite.

[askmoi]

Askmoi,

Which Mongoose did you use? MMi3 or CoR3?

it was a mmi3...the grains were quite nice and the bat was huge all the way from the top to the bottom ....

i think it was 2'10"....didn't see it in the match as it was drizzling and the guy didnt want to use his brand new bat............

[askmoi]

There have lately been a lot of questions on AS V10 lately. I got one from the AS factory about three weeks ago. I will post the pictures soon. I still have not been able to use it in a match (our weird schedule and my week long vacation).

Just from initial tests the ping is amazing. It has very thick edges for a 2lb 8 bat. As for the wood being a bit dry I am not sure. The face of the bat was oiled and seemed fine but the back needed a coat although it was pre-oiled.

The price is indeed 148 US dollars. The other price does not make sense because the Pak price 11000 Rs. converts to about 129 dollars. How could they ship it for less than their Pak price.

Although they do price a bit more attractively in markets where they have more competition like Australia.

thanks for the help....made me a bit more relaxed about ordering from AS directly

[Cover Drive]

One of the best cricketing thread I've ever seen. Wow!

Just got my hands on a brand new cricket kit. Got myself some Ricky Ponting softs, which are pretty nice but not quite what I wanted. Also got a Gray Nicolls Ignite (pro perf). Amazing pickup and balance. Will post an update with pictures once I try it out on the field in a couple of weeks.

Cover Drive, your Krakatoa is a great looking piece of willow. Any updates on how its playing? I might get myself one at the beginning of next season if I'm not completely satisfied with my Ignite.
You got yourself really good gear! Kookaburra RP softs are really good and one of the best in the market. I quite like there pads system as one pads has 7 canes and other has 9 canes (if I remember correctly).

Ah that's a great bat. If you don't mind can you tell us how many grains do your GN Ignite has?

I haven't played much with that bat as I had to leave for vacation. However, it is a top notch bat and plays very good. The sweetspot is quite long and ball travels a good distance when you play a drive sort of stroke. Personally I like it a lot and I think my money has been worth.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

[Cover Drive]

I checked the weight of this bat( kook CcX) today and it weighs 1165 grams which is about 2.9lb. The pick up is like 2.6 bat and really nice ping and will improve more when its fully played in. Grains are slightly wonky but willow quality still looks lush. Uzair Miyyan keep the price of this bat a secret and don't tell anyone where I got the bat from.

Ah it looks great Majid Bhai! One of my club mate has CCX 900 or 750 and his bat is awesome! I really like the shape and profile of the bat. As the bat is knocked in more and more I am sure it will play very good.

One thing I don't like about this bat is that its grip is not great as the are ruined because of the grip :(

[Cover Drive]

it was a mmi3...the grains were quite nice and the bat was huge all the way from the top to the bottom ....

i think it was 2'10"....didn't see it in the match as it was drizzling and the guy didnt want to use his brand new bat............

The purpose of MMi3 and the shape is made in a specific manner that the whole bat is sweet spot. Once you middle regardless which part of the bat it will travel a long distance.

As far CoR3 goes it has pretty same profile and shape. Its toe is almost as thick as the middle of the bat.

[Cover Drive]

i think they are made by SG in India....

Uhmm SG makes Kookaburra bats not sure if they make for two companies.

[dhump]

so here is my new Malik Bubber sher bought it from UT sports yesterday.

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9262/94125183.jpg

[Cover Drive]

Didn't like CA 12000 LE TRD?

[dhump]

Didn't like CA 12000 LE TRD?

TRD was really really good but my budget was reduced due to some reasons so I never really tried to bargain TRD.

BTW what do you think of bubber sher this one weight around 2.6 and got nice overall balance.

[nam]

2.6 is light enough.. looks a decent bat mate.. congrats..
id like to know how much better is CA 12000 LE TRD compared to CA 12000

[Cover Drive]

Oh okay.

I can't see the picture as it is not showing on my phone browser. Once I logon from a laptop Ill let you know.

2.6 sounds to be really light and with a light pickup it might feel even ligther. I hope it doesn't get too light after a while :)

[Cover Drive]

I have heard there is notable difference between CA 12000 LE and CA 12000 as LE one seems to be a more professional player bat because of its willow (better one is being used) and profile is better. On the other hand I have heard since Mani LE is no longer in CA's catalog CA 12000 LE is the same one being restickered although I am not sure how accurate this fact is.

[dhump]

2.6 is light enough.. looks a decent bat mate.. congrats..
id like to know how much better is CA 12000 LE TRD compared to CA 12000

Thanks mate.

well they didnt got CA 12000 so I cant really inform you about the direct comparison but it looks like a standout piece of willow in comparison to Malik,Boom Boom and CA Power plus it was very light the ping was just amazing sweet spot seems to be pretty big over all it was a really nice bat with nice pick up and light weight.




I can't see the picture as it is not showing on my phone browser. Once I logon from a laptop Ill let you know.

2.6 sounds to be really light and with a light pickup it might feel even ligther. I hope it doesn't get too light after a while

CD: Sure man let me know what do you think of this one. LOL you never know but I hope I stick to Babbar sher for a while :D.

BTW: I have seen another lot of Boom Boom 5 star and I am least impressed really if I compare the price it is just a bit lower then 12000 TRD and you really dont even want to compare both of them I think Boom Boom needs to work on it a little or no one will really be buying their bats just for the name.

[Cover Drive]

Boom Boom currently is cashing Afridi's name, hence, there bats are priced high compare to competitors. I believe the reason why they aren't good in the begining is because die hard Afrdi fans will not look at the quality instead they will go for Afridis bat.

Personally I find it worthless to buy a Boom Boom 5 Star because it is priced around Rs. 18000 whereas Ihsan Inferno 950 is around 13. Its the same bat maker etc with just different stickers.

[Cover Drive]

Boom Boom currently is cashing Afridi's name, hence, there bats are priced high compare to competitors. I believe the reason why they aren't good in the begining is because die hard Afrdi fans will not look at the quality instead they will go for Afridis bat.

Personally I find it worthless to buy a Boom Boom 5 Star because it is priced around Rs. 18000 whereas Ihsan Inferno 950 is around 13. Its the same bat maker etc with just different stickers.

[Oxy]

^ Calm down, I believed you 1st time you said it...

[Cover Drive]

Brother dhump,

Your Bubber Sher looks impressive! I like this colour scheme compare to the stickered version. Do you mind telling how much you paid for it?

If I am correct this is not laminated Bubber Sher, right? Because UT has both laminated and non-laminated

[Cover Drive]

^ Calm down, I believed you 1st time you said it...

I am not trying to convince people to believe me :)

[02thoeva]

Uhmm SG makes Kookaburra bats not sure if they make for two companies.
SG make for multiple companies.

[FreddyBo]

Is there a bubber sher LE? The quality on that wood looks like it could be better. Unless its just the lighting. :)

[FreddyBo]

You got yourself really good gear! Kookaburra RP softs are really good and one of the best in the market. I quite like there pads system as one pads has 7 canes and other has 9 canes (if I remember correctly).

Ah that's a great bat. If you don't mind can you tell us how many grains do your GN Ignite has?

I haven't played much with that bat as I had to leave for vacation. However, it is a top notch bat and plays very good. The sweetspot is quite long and ball travels a good distance when you play a drive sort of stroke. Personally I like it a lot and I think my money has been worth.

Any more questions please feel free to ask.

Yes, the RP softs are high quality indeed. But I'm not entirely comfortable wearing them. I might try getting GM LE next season, or maybe even newbery. Although newbery seems to have a sense of "his royal highness" about it, which I'm not a fan of. :)

Dont remember how many grains on my bat. I too happen to be on vacation right now. I'll post pictures of my gear once I get back.

[Cover Drive]

Thanks 02thoeva!

FreddyBo,

Yes, there is Bubber Sher LE as well.

I have GM LE softs and honestly apart from me owing them they are awesome and top notch gear. The gloves are simply awesome as palm is so soft and gloves itself are really comfortable. I have trouble wearing pads as they get too bulky or big for me. For example, CA 12000 Plus, but these GM pads are in different are in different class all together.

Newbery softs are really good and there softs are one of the best. I also have a pair of Newbery Test gloves and they are really top notch. I know they are expensive but trust me they are worth every single penny. If you want to get Newbery softs in a cheaper price then buy SS as they make Newbery softs.

[dhump]

Brother dhump,

Your Bubber Sher looks impressive! I like this colour scheme compare to the stickered version. Do you mind telling how much you paid for it?

If I am correct this is not laminated Bubber Sher, right? Because UT has both laminated and non-laminated

Thanks CD bro, yes I liked it too its kinda cool :D I paid 10000/- Rs for it and you are right it is not laminated.

[Cover Drive]

Thanks CD bro, yes I liked it too its kinda cool :D I paid 10000/- Rs for it and you are right it is not laminated.
No worries!

The price tells that due to EU ban the prices have increased slightly. Few months ago Bubber Sher was Rs. 9300

[mrk]

Whats diff between laminated and non laminated ? which one is better any why ?

[Cover Drive]

In simple terms laminated bats have two pieces of wood joined together whereas non-laminated bats are made of single wood.

In terms of performance laminated as ball goes further, hence its illegal at international level.

[mrk]

And which brand are making it ? Were in UK i can buy ?

[02thoeva]

Depends in which fashion the bat is laminated as to performance benefits, obviously depends on how they're pressed and the willow quality.

They're illegal from use in all cricket played under MCC laws. If you want an illegal bat which hits further you're probably best buying one made of rubber.

[cricketer13]

Didn't like CA 12000 LE TRD?

CD i saw TRD and fell in love with it thats why i am getting one TRD along with my other bats. Will post pictures once i get it. And TRD is a different profile than Mani LE.

[cricketer13]

so here is my new Malik Bubber sher bought it from UT sports yesterday.

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9262/94125183.jpg

Huge profile for 2.6, i must say amazing bat. Is this painted or stickered?

[dhump]

Huge profile for 2.6, i must say amazing bat. Is this painted or stickered?

Painted and btw these marks on the front are not on willow but air in the protector at some areas. I know you didint mentioned it but someone else above asked it.

Brother cover drive: true the price are increased in last few months they were telling me that even price for every piece of willow is increased and it will increase much more in coming months.

[Cover Drive]

02thoeva, most of us play club cricket so I am sure its safe to use there. Don't take me wrong I don't own one...

Cricketer13 bhai,

Did you manage to find someone who can bring your stuff?

[cricketer13]

02thoeva, most of us play club cricket so I am sure its safe to use there. Don't take me wrong I don't own one...

Cricketer13 bhai,

Did you manage to find someone who can bring your stuff?

CD bhai Inshallah will find someone soon will keep u posted....i bought V10 as well :)

[askmoi]

is it ok to use it if u can get away with it? that means u r ok to cheat if u know nothing is going to happen to u......

personally as it is, bats r getting better....edges fly comfortable over the boundary.....why then the need to use something illegal??

[Cover Drive]

Let me know if you need my assistance. Mere bhai I know what you got ;)

[Cover Drive]

Askmoi,

As I said earlier and 02thoeva said its okay to use it in games which are not MCC regulated. For instance, a international player can't use it at international level.

In my opinion the reason why they were used is because they gave extra power to the shot. In other words, ball went further and it made the bat more powerful. Graphite, C6+ etc bats also fall in same category. However, best man for this topic discussion would be 02thoeva. He has got vast amount of knowledge..respect for his knowledge. Hats off to you mate :)

[askmoi]

oh ok....but normally club leagues in their rules tend to follow MCC laws....but yeah there is a general curiosity to try it and see what the hype is all about...the same was generated by mongoose as well

cricketer13...do u mind sharing pics of ur V10? i am also looking to get one....what r ur views on the bat?

[xkalibur80]

oh ok....but normally club leagues in their rules tend to follow MCC laws....but yeah there is a general curiosity to try it and see what the hype is all about...the same was generated by mongoose as well

cricketer13...do u mind sharing pics of ur V10? i am also looking to get one....what r ur views on the bat?

In theory if you are in Canada.....umpires here don't even know how to make a decision let alone declaring a bat illegal!

[AtifUk]

Update on the NB Krakatoa, It's starting to come alive now that its had a couple of hours knocking and a couple of net sessions. Feels good now that i am use to it more, I have to say the middle is impressive for such a light bat. Some of the sheet at the front of the bat has come lose at the toe, I'll post a picture for some advice when I get home.

[Cover Drive]

oh ok....but normally club leagues in their rules tend to follow MCC laws....but yeah there is a general curiosity to try it and see what the hype is all about...the same was generated by mongoose as well

cricketer13...do u mind sharing pics of ur V10? i am also looking to get one....what r ur views on the bat?

Mongoose and laminated are in different league. Mongoose is made of one single piece of wood. If you look at Mongoose CoR3 it says and it does fall under MCC rules which means it is completely legal to use.

[Cover Drive]

Update on the NB Krakatoa, It's starting to come alive now that its had a couple of hours knocking and a couple of net sessions. Feels good now that i am use to it more, I have to say the middle is impressive for such a light bat. Some of the sheet at the front of the bat has come lose at the toe, I'll post a picture for some advice when I get home.

:O You knocked your Newbery?! :O

Did you try to peel it or did you play in wet conditions?

[Knightrider]

Ah it looks great Majid Bhai! One of my club mate has CCX 900 or 750 and his bat is awesome! I really like the shape and profile of the bat. As the bat is knocked in more and more I am sure it will play very good.

One thing I don't like about this bat is that its grip is not great as the are ruined because of the grip :(
Danevaad Uzair Miyyan. And ur right about the grip it does ruin gloves. My other kook blade bat has same style grip in lime but the color doesnt come off that one.

[xkalibur80]

I was just browsing different hand made bats and came across Laver & Wood bats.....I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the price point on one of their bats - it was over $1500 USD!!!!

[xkalibur80]

Majid - I got the SS gloves and superlite Pads from Ajit a couple of weeks ago. The gloves are by far the best I have seen....very comfortable and feel is just perfect.

Much better than my CA 12000 gloves.

[Knightrider]

Good to hear that u liked the gloves. Btw those gloves are 3rd frm the range and still they are much better then other brands best gloves. What about the SS superlite pads did you like them ? Pads are very soft and feather light. I got the new 2010 SS matrix gloves and pads with the Matrrixx Gladiator LE bat I got frm Ajit on monday. These gloves are also super quality.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sspadsgloves4.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sspadsgloves3.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sspadsgloves2.jpg

[FreddyBo]

Is there anyone here whose had experience with both Newbery and M&H bats? I am wondering if there's much difference between the quality. I believe both are hand made so are probably high quality, but is there a significant difference?

[Cover Drive]

Xbalibur80 Bhai,

It is worth paying every single dollar for Laver & Wood. Those bats are in different league alltogether and are awesome! I am not sure if you saw them at retailer website or direct Laver & Wood websites.

As Majid Bhai asked how are pads?

Majid Bhai,

I would strongly recommend to change the grip. Another grip that ruins the gloves but not as much as CCX is GN grips. I hate those grips lol

FreddyBo,

It is a pretty tough to tell which one is better. Both are very good brands and both are handmade as well. m&H are tad expensive compare to Newbery.

[askmoi]

Mongoose and laminated are in different league. Mongoose is made of one single piece of wood. If you look at Mongoose CoR3 it says and it does fall under MCC rules which means it is completely legal to use.

i wasn't comparing their legality...i am aware all mongoose bats are legal in every form of cricket...i was merely mentioning the curiosity that something new raises ....in us who are so interested in cricket

I was just browsing different hand made bats and came across Laver & Wood bats.....I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the price point on one of their bats - it was over $1500 USD!!!!

u must have looked at the signature package....the private bin is closer to 500USD...however u can find bats on sale on their forum shop http://www.laverwood.co.nz/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=94


the new SS softs do look good....for a long time SG used to be the best softs in the subcontinent....but now lots of guys seem to be using SS

[Cover Drive]

SS is one of the best soft maker not just in sub continent but in whole world.

[Poison]

Why the hell are Laver and Wood bats so expensive? A $2000 bat is ludicrous! If you buy their bat is the bat gonna play shots on its own or something?

[askmoi]

you can read it on their website Click Here (http://www.laverwood.co.nz/signature.htm)

I believe the package comes with the signature bat, another private bin bat and some other extras....its still really expensive....if i had one, i wudn't bear to use it...incase i damage a 1600USD bat

[mrk]

One friend of my bought lawer wood bats. They are good bat and willow realy looks good but comapre to Pakistani bats they are expensive.

[xkalibur80]

Why the hell are Laver and Wood bats so expensive? A $2000 bat is ludicrous! If you buy their bat is the bat gonna play shots on its own or something?

For that price point it better be striking the ball with no effort from the batsman....lol.....if not that, at least have the option of changing weight whenever you feel like it.

[askmoi]

ok guys so i have gone ahead and ordered my AS V10 directly from AS Sports.....

here r the specs given by me.....they will start making it tomorrow....
1.) weighing 2'8" after putting the stickers, grips etc
2.) balanced bat with light pickup
3.) clean face with 8-10 evenly spaced straight grains
4.) normal middle with extended sweetspot
5.) rounded edges
6.) good pressing on the bottom as well

what do u guys think?

[Oxy]

ok guys so i have gone ahead and ordered my AS V10 directly from AS Sports.....

here r the specs given by me.....they will start making it tomorrow....
1.) weighing 2'8" after putting the stickers, grips etc
2.) balanced bat with light pickup
3.) clean face with 8-10 evenly spaced straight grains
4.) normal middle with extended sweetspot
5.) rounded edges
6.) good pressing on the bottom as well

what do u guys think?

Are you looking to marry it or play cricket with it?

[askmoi]

thanks for dampening all my enthusiasm.....u r a real killjoy

[ca_gold]

"It is worth paying every single dollar for Laver & Wood. Those bats are in different league alltogether and are awesome! "


why do you say that? have you played with them?

[nam]

ok guys so i have gone ahead and ordered my AS V10 directly from AS Sports.....

here r the specs given by me.....they will start making it tomorrow....
1.) weighing 2'8" after putting the stickers, grips etc
2.) balanced bat with light pickup
3.) clean face with 8-10 evenly spaced straight grains
4.) normal middle with extended sweetspot
5.) rounded edges
6.) good pressing on the bottom as well

what do u guys think?

how did you order? in person from their factory or over the phone? do they ship overseas and can we order over the phone? i am not sure if they have a website?

[nam]

the AS V10 i have come across so far are very neat.. too thick, light pickup and the ping is just amazing.. i hope you get the same type of bat coz that would be awesome..

[xkalibur80]

"It is worth paying every single dollar for Laver & Wood. Those bats are in different league alltogether and are awesome! "


why do you say that? have you played with them?

How are the new bats performing? Which one did you get again?

[cricketer13]

[QUOTE=ca_gold;2774016]"It is worth paying every single dollar for Laver & Wood. Those bats are in different league alltogether and are awesome! "

To be honest no bat is worth this much. All bat manufacturers get pieces of willow that are limited and are of the best quality possible. This signature bat is just hyped up to let pppl know that they have the best bat possible which is not true. [

[ca_gold]

[QUOTE=ca_gold;2774016]"It is worth paying every single dollar for Laver & Wood. Those bats are in different league alltogether and are awesome! "

To be honest no bat is worth this much. All bat manufacturers get pieces of willow that are limited and are of the best quality possible. This signature bat is just hyped up to let pppl know that they have the best bat possible which is not true. [


that was the point i was trying to make. if someone can prove to me how their willow supply/batmaking skills are THAT much better then the rest - then that could justify the price. apart from that - its a marketing gimmick.

and for the record - i have used L&W. It was impressive - but didnt blow me away. Def not worth it at that price point to me. But each to his own.

[ca_gold]

How are the new bats performing? Which one did you get again?

I got a Bradbury (wedding gift for a teammate) and Thruxton SPS. The SPS is a brilliant bat. Took a little time to get used to + was very soft pressed, required a bit of knocking. Asad bhai was great through the process as usual.

However, I'm still using my BAS in my matches. That BAS is a beast and I would have no hesistation in getting another in the future.

[askmoi]

the AS V10 i have come across so far are very neat.. too thick, light pickup and the ping is just amazing.. i hope you get the same type of bat coz that would be awesome..

thanks nam....i had dropped them an email assports@assports.com (assports@assports.com) which i had got from their website AS Sports (http://www.assports.com)

they do ship internationally and have told me that they will customise it to my specifications....

i must say it has been easy to deal with Waqas over email...you can also call him up.....

[askmoi]

ca_gold: which BAS bat r u using?

[Cover Drive]

"It is worth paying every single dollar for Laver & Wood. Those bats are in different league alltogether and are awesome! "


why do you say that? have you played with them?
Not yet!

I told what I have heard.

[Knightrider]

CA PLUS Extra Power 2.9lb, 9/10 grains, feather light pick up and 40mm edges.
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[xkalibur80]

2.9lb, 9/10 grains, feather light pick up and 40mm edges.

Looks like a beast of a bat......I wonder how much it goes for at UT sports....

[nam]

thanks nam....i had dropped them an email assports@assports.com (assports@assports.com) which i had got from their website AS Sports (http://www.assports.com)

they do ship internationally and have told me that they will customise it to my specifications....

i must say it has been easy to deal with Waqas over email...you can also call him up.....

thanks askmoi..

2.9lb, 9/10 grains, feather light pick up and 40mm edges.

massive bat that is! :inti

[Cover Drive]

Another massive piece of willow Majid Bhai! It looks impressive!

Omair Bhai, I believe around Rs. 12000. I believe CA 12000 and CA 12000 Plus TRD LE are superior...

[cricketer13]

Looks like a beast of a bat......I wonder how much it goes for at UT sports....

8000 rupees at UT.

[xkalibur80]

8000 rupees at UT.

not a bad price for what u r getting.....$100 for such a meaty bat is worth it.

[askmoi]

has anyone here used Irfan bats? i remember kamran akmal used to use one sometime back....they seem to be priced really well...

[Cover Drive]

not a bad price for what u r getting.....$100 for such a meaty bat is worth it.
It is! But it is not necessary to get same sort of bat everytime. It could be once in a blue moon. The person who Majid Bhai got the bat from is a top bloke who select bats himself and most of them are huge for its weight.

By the way guys I saw Boom Boom 5 Star pads today (the one Afridi use) and I must say those pads were awesome! They were so light and seemed to be made with quality leather.

Askmoi,

I haven't but I have heard good things about them. For the price you pay those bats seems to be good ones.

[cricketer13]

It is! But it is not necessary to get same sort of bat everytime. It could be once in a blue moon. The person who Majid Bhai got the bat from is a top bloke who select bats himself and most of them are huge for its weight.

By the way guys I saw Boom Boom 5 Star pads today (the one Afridi use) and I must say those pads were awesome! They were so light and seemed to be made with quality leather.

Askmoi,

I haven't but I have heard good things about them. For the price you pay those bats seems to be good ones.

Uzair bhai did u buy ur bats yet? How abt bubber sher gloves any chance u checked those out?

[Cover Drive]

I am hoping to make my way to Sailkot and buy bats from there as there will be more variety and options. This store just had one MB Malik Bubber Sher LE which did not please me when it came to grains and weight. Profilewise it was impressive.

Nope! He did not have them in stock nor on shelf. I had a quick glimpse at Boom Boom 4 Star gloves and designwise they looked carbon copy of CA 12000 Plus with different colour scheme.

[Knightrider]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/CAPlusextrapower.jpg
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2.9lb, 9/10 grains, feather light pick up and 40mm edges.

[xkalibur80]

I am hoping to make my way to Sailkot and buy bats from there as there will be more variety and options. This store just had one MB Malik Bubber Sher LE which did not please me when it came to grains and weight. Profilewise it was impressive.

Nope! He did not have them in stock nor on shelf. I had a quick glimpse at Boom Boom 4 Star gloves and designwise they looked carbon copy of CA 12000 Plus with different colour scheme.

Oh you are in Pak right now....keep me posted about which bats you are looking at getting etc.....how much are the boom boom pads? They look pretty awesome.

[askmoi]

looks a big bat majid bhai.....hope it plays well for u...so now how many bats do u have with u in total?

[askmoi]

cd bhai, if u go down to the factories...pls take some pics.....wud be interested to see them

[Cover Drive]

Xkalibur80 bhai,

Boom Boom 5 Star pads are around Rs. 2500

Askmoi Bhai,

InshALLAH, I will do that!

[Knightrider]

looks a big bat majid bhai.....hope it plays well for u...so now how many bats do u have with u in total?
Danevaad. At the moment I have ten bats but I've had around 18/19 bats which I used this season and some I have sold on.

[Knightrider]

This one is my Max Grainer bat from Ajit(onlinestockist) its lush quality with over 15 straight grains. Looks darker because its been oiled twice. Edges are only about 33/34mm but the bat has really really big high spine. Weight is 2.9
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/narrowgrainsbat.jpg
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[Knightrider]

Uzair Miyyan I've just emailed you.

[Cover Drive]

Another great pick!

Looks great for it's weight Majid Bhai! Apart from that edges, grains and spine looks good as well

[xkalibur80]

So finally I played with my Newbury today....the ball travels with minimal effort....I played a few half hearted drives in the nets today and the ball was racing away on each stroke.

[askmoi]

@Majid: great bat there......love the redwood sapwood combination on that.....

@xkalibur: good to hear that....may it score u 1000 runs and more....have always heard good things abt newbery

[bigfan]

Majid I know of two friends of mine, who actually bought Max Grainers from your mate "Ajit" onlinestockist.com based on your vouching for him in this thread.

He sent them 9 and a 8 grain bats G3 or worse quality. (3 or more knots on each bats face) 4 piece handle. (probably should count themselves lucky not to get the 3 piece handles). wrong weights. One was straight out heavier with no writing. The other he wrote on the plastic 1150g (2 pounds 8 ounces) but when you roll down the grip just around the top of the handle it says 1210 or 2 pounds 11 ounces. Both bats have been weighed and come to around 2 pounds 11.

Not only that he passed it off saying that was all the supplier had. He didn't bother to contact any of the buyers to tell them he was going to ship than a fake product. (defiantly not a max grainer with only 9 grains) Then only to look on this forum to find other people such as yourself getting 15 grains! He wont even respond to their emails. Seems he is only out to rip people off!

Are you even in the UK majid? cos there is something seriously fishy about your stories and supply of bats. No one can spend as much as you do on bats, you buy them at a rate of more than one bat a week. And they conveniently seem to be the bats this "Ajit" is just about to sell. Majid are you really this "Ajit" character?

I'll post some photos later of his G1 bats. My advice to anyone on here thinking of buying from that site DONT! please contact me for detailed information.

[Poison]

Majid from where did you buy that CA Extra Power? It looks immense.

[BoomBoomAli]

This one is my Max Grainer bat from Ajit(onlinestockist) its lush quality with over 15 straight grains. Looks darker because its been oiled twice. Edges are only about 33/34mm but the bat has really really big high spine. Weight is 2.9


Whats the black stuff on the top of the bat?

[Ali Raja]

I came across this site http://www.cricketfains.com/cricketfains/ and I just wondered if anyone has heard about this site. Some of the prices look unrealistic, for instance the adidas- and gray nicholls bats (highest level). how can they cost under £100 on this site when they are priced at well over £200 at other sites?

what do you guys think?

[BoomBoomAli]

I came across this site http://www.cricketfains.com/cricketfains/ and I just wondered if anyone has heard about this site. Some of the prices look unrealistic, for instance the adidas- and gray nicholls bats (highest level). how can they cost under £100 on this site when they are priced at well over £200 at other sites?

what do you guys think?

Wouldn't buy anything off there if I was you

[Knightrider]

Majid from where did you buy that CA Extra Power? It looks immense.
I got the CA Plus Extra Power from Armie Bhai (www.batsandmore.com)

[Knightrider]

..

[UntouchablePlaya]

Check out Hamish is using Boom Boom Range.

Hamish Pictures!

[Knightrider]

Matrrixx bat looks better because I changed the original grip(v dark green) which didn't match the stickers. The new lighter green grip that I've put on now looks much better on the bat and matches the stickers.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/newmatrrixx.jpg
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[cric_fan82]

Hi,

I also ordered two max grainers from Ajit, i have posted pics of both the bats in this thread. Only one of the ordered bats turned out to be a max grainer the other one was a normal bat ( Grade 2 bat not G3 as mentioned by Bigfan) . At first i didnt like it, cause i ordered two max grainers and got sumthing else, but as i started using the bat, the bat turned to be very good. it had no blemishes and 9 evenly spread grains.
The max grainer bat, had an awsome pick up and as majid mentioned the stroke is just amazing but the bat has to be oiled again, as it suddenly has become very dry at the back. The handles are a problem as the are certainly not 9 piece handles as written.
In the end i would say some of the points Bigfan made are Exaggerated but some are right too.
I bought an 80 euro bat from a guy here this season and the bat was too bad and i then got a max grainer and the other bat for 100 each and the bats are great yes with short comings, but are good for me.

my conclusion in the end would be, i dont think so you can get a 100 euro bat anywhere (the quality what ajit gives).

[Cover Drive]

Guys,

Rather than bashing and questioning Majid about Ajit and his products it would be great if you take a minute or two and drop Ajit an email regarding the purchased products you have recieved.

Thanks

[bigfan]

Guys,

Rather than bashing and questioning Majid about Ajit and his products it would be great if you take a minute or two and drop Ajit an email regarding the purchased products you have received.

Thanks

Yeah been there, done that. He wont answer emails, I If you use another email account he responds fast. ( 3 hrs ) The more you dig the fishier it gets.

This forum is not supposed to be for Majid to hock his warez! this is supposed to be about cricket gear. But if Majid wants to keep hocking this gear then this is what it will likely happen.

Majid send me your email and i'll be more than happy to talk with you there.

[Edit by Mods: Please don't drag country into the topic. Let's stick to the topic of this thread. Thanks!]

[ca_gold]

bigfan is abosultely spot on.

[askmoi]

he might or might not be right abt onlinestockist. but he doesn't have to make random accusations against the whole country...and shud he choose to, back it up with facts....

its the same as saying: IF shoaib malik is a crappy cricketer, then all cricketers in pakistan are crappy.....which is def not right...

[cricket_fan1]

ok guys so i have gone ahead and ordered my AS V10 directly from AS Sports.....

here r the specs given by me.....they will start making it tomorrow....
1.) weighing 2'8" after putting the stickers, grips etc
2.) balanced bat with light pickup
3.) clean face with 8-10 evenly spaced straight grains
4.) normal middle with extended sweetspot
5.) rounded edges
6.) good pressing on the bottom as well

what do u guys think?

How much you pay with shipping( what kind of shipping services you required ) for this custom made bat AS V-10 ?

[mrk]

Here are pictures of my and my borthers bat. Both are Pakistani bat. Puma is cutsom made with stickers and Monty is from Monty shop Lahore who made REAL good bats.

I bhought mine from Monty Lahore for 2 years ago and payed 11000 rupee. 2nd bat with puma sticker is bhought from a player who play in a club and runs a shop in Gujar Khan and he custom made this bat from sailkot for some friend of his but my brother pressed him to sell :) He payed 7000 rupee.

Both are GREAT willows with GREAT stroke. Puma bat is just awesome.

We "forigners" pay more than locals. So get local buy for u.

http://a.imageshack.us/img3/8159/img0086ww.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img705/684/img0098ir.jpg

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8457/img0100i.jpg

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http://a.imageshack.us/img94/5238/img0105mh.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img689/3405/img0106fu.jpg

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5412/img0108n.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7886/img0111o.jpg

[Cover Drive]

Guys,

Don't drag the country in the thread over poor dealings with a supplier. If you have issues with him then kindly drop him or her a email from there website rather than having a go at Majid_V3, its not his fault. He has dealt with the supplier and is better off with the stuff he has purchased. He is just telling us his experience with the supplier. I would vouch for any supplier who I have dealt with and am better off

Hope its understood!

Thanks

[askmoi]

How much you pay with shipping( what kind of shipping services you required ) for this custom made bat AS V-10 ?

i paid 148 USD inc shipping...and i didnt have any requirements abt shipping...only that it is trackable

[askmoi]

@mrk: loads of grains on both bats...personally from the pics, i prefer the puma stickered bat over the monty sports...what r the weights on them?

[mrk]

@mrk: loads of grains on both bats...personally from the pics, i prefer the puma stickered bat over the monty sports...what r the weights on them?

You are right there is more power in "puma" than Monty.

Monty is 2.8 and i guess puma is 2.9 2.10

I play with monty and when i middel ball it just go like bullet. I have made alot of runs.

Puma bat is just great ball go FAR.......................

[Opener]

Can someone please provide me Ajit's (Online Stockist) Phone Number. A team mate of mine bought a bat off him and is trying to get a hold of him.

[Knightrider]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/blackssmatrixpads3.jpg
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Uzair Miyyan, pictures of my new SS matrix pads and gloves

[Knightrider]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/blackssmatrixpads7.jpg
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More pictures of my new SS matrix pads, gloves, thighpad and arm guard.

[Oxy]

My equipment

http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!Byeb60QEGk~$(KGrHqJ,!hgEw5L-toc!BMR3lt8coQ~~_12.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!ByjDDyw!mk~$(KGrHqQOKm8Ew8+l3FdQBMSLTC,VNg~~_12.J PG

http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!B)L+P+wBGk~$(KGrHqMOKjMEwPb1BR8+BMMbTRREow~~_12.J PG

http://i.ebayimg.com/14/!BvPM7IQB2k~$(KGrHqZ,!i4Ev1+0GmOfBMDsTG5hyQ~~_12.J PG

http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!ByyovCwEGk~$(KGrHqJ,!jIEw5CZoClDBMTLDszn6w~~_12.J PG

[Knightrider]

Nice Kit oxy

[xkalibur80]

LOL.....good one OXY.....priceless!

[Cover Drive]

Oxy Bhai, DF gloves eh?

By the way, which bat is it? Looks a good handcrafted bat

[dhump]

Nice pads Majid really like them.

Hats off oxy legendary stuff and you still have it thats amazing,which bat is it ???
and you pads make me feel that you like to play sweep shots ??

[AZ]

Butt sahab ke balley ka kya naam hai? :butt

[Knightrider]

Adidas Incurza

[AZ]

cost?

[Knightrider]

Adidas Incurza Elite £219 (Butt uses)
Adidas Incurza Pro £174
Adidas Incurza County £134
Adidas Icurza Club £110

[dhump]

3 Incurza Elite AZ sahab kay lie garama garam.

[AZ]

haha :19:

Usman bhai I'm still waiting for the new Salman wallpaper from you ;-)

[askmoi]

guys has anyone used a cannonball cricket bat...saw on Cannonball Mustang (http://www.quantumcricket.com/mustang.html)

looks really good...esp the 2'8" they have on their site...

i was informed that it is made by the same ppl as Ihsan

[Paradox]

Oxy, legend :))) nice kit.

[dhump]

haha :19:

Usman bhai I'm still waiting for the new Salman wallpaper from you ;-)

Coming soon AZ Bhai Test Wining captain indeed deserve some tribute.

[Cover Drive]

guys has anyone used a cannonball cricket bat...saw on Cannonball Mustang (http://www.quantumcricket.com/mustang.html)

looks really good...esp the 2'8" they have on their site...

i was informed that it is made by the same ppl as Ihsan

The design of the gloves is carbon copy of Ihsan Inferno 750.

[Cover Drive]

Butt sahab ke balley ka kya naam hai? :butt

Faazool bat hai Butt sahab kya ;-)

[AZ]

faazool bat hai butt sahab kya ;-)

what!

[Cover Drive]

what!

LOL, I am just playing with you.

It looks like a great bat :)

[sakss]

lol...oxy bhai veteran stuff..:))


majid bhai you openeing up a shop or something???how come youve got so many bats?

[Knightrider]

lol...oxy bhai veteran stuff..:))


majid bhai you openeing up a shop or something???how come youve got so many bats?
Nahee Bhai meri koyi shop nahin hai. And I use my bats like a pro I usually go thru 10-15 bats a season. I use each bat few times and sell it on.

[Oxy]

I just see lots of angry posters on this thread - all seemingly pushing for 'their' preferred suppliers & accusing each other of pushing their preferred supplier!!

Cleary carried over from other forums...

[Cover Drive]

Just a polite reminder to everyone that lets refrain from personal slanging towards each other. If anyone has any issues with a supplier then they should directly contact the supplier rather than derail this thread.

Thank You!

[dhump]

This dont really clasified as cricket equipment but something some how related and this thread can be the best place to share some more to come soon.

[askmoi]

awesome pic dhump bhai...looking forward to more from ur collection

[Knightrider]

Uzair Miyyan kya haal chaal hai? Aur Can u tell us which bats will you buy from Pakistan? and which pads and gloves etc?

[Cover Drive]

Alhamdulilah Majid Bhai!

Hmm not much perhaps 3 only (AS V10, MB Malik Bubber Sher LE and hopefully Ihsan Inferno 950))

As far pads goes it will be CA 10000 Plus or Boom Boom 5 Star. Most likely it will be Boom Boom pads as I really liked them.

Am not thinking of buying lots of gloves as I already have 7 pairs. But I do have few in my minds which as MB Malik Bubber Sher's, CA 12000 and maybe Boom Boom 5 Star.

[Sammi24]

Hello everyone,

I am having a hard time deciding which bat to choose 12000 or Bubber sher.

I open batting for my team, I already have a Grey Nicholls 5star powerbow which i find utterly rubbish it dosnt ping at all.

Any help would be appreciated it.

Best Regards
Sammi

[Cover Drive]

Hello everyone,

I am having a hard time deciding which bat to choose 12000 or Bubber sher.

I open batting for my team, I already have a Grey Nicholls 5star powerbow which i find utterly rubbish it dosnt ping at all.

Any help would be appreciated it.

Best Regards
Sammi

Hi Sammi,

First of all welcome to PP and I hope you have a good time here.

I would recommend and suggest you to spend some more time in knocking your GN Powerbow as I believe one of the factor due to which a bat doesn't respond good or in other words pings good is because it haven't been knocked properly. Hence, this problem arises and I have personally experienced this as well.

However, if you have made a firm decision to buy a new bat then I would advise you to buy CA 12000 Plus rather than Bubber Sher. There are few reasons why I said that but one of the main factor in my opinion is that CA bats are made better than MB. For instance, CA bats have really good balance, pick up is feather light and list goes on.

Another reason why I said that is because I personally like to have different kind/types of bats. For instance, your current bat has low positioned sweetspot whereas CA 12000 Plus has high and Bubber Sher has low.

I hope it helps!

Please feel free to ask any question you have or wish to ask

Regards

[cricketer13]

Hi Sammi,

First of all welcome to PP and I hope you have a good time here.

I would recommend and suggest you to spend some more time in knocking your GN Powerbow as I believe one of the factor due to which a bat doesn't respond good or in other words pings good is because it haven't been knocked properly. Hence, this problem arises and I have personally experienced this as well.

However, if you have made a firm decision to buy a new bat then I would advise you to buy CA 12000 Plus rather than Bubber Sher. There are few reasons why I said that but one of the main factor in my opinion is that CA bats are made better than MB. For instance, CA bats have really good balance, pick up is feather light and list goes on.

Another reason why I said that is because I personally like to have different kind/types of bats. For instance, your current bat has low positioned sweetspot whereas CA 12000 Plus has high and Bubber Sher has low.

I hope it helps!

Please feel free to ask any question you have or wish to ask

Regards

I completely agree with CD as CA12000 is superior to Bubber Sher. However, you might be interested in checking out MB Bubber Sher Limited Edition as it is made of superior willow and a better handle.

[Knightrider]

I also ConcuR with Uzair MiyyaN

[Sammi24]

Cover drive thanks alot :D it really did help i guess il go for 12000 then :D

Ive actually knocked my GN for 1week before using it, After i used it in nets its been almost 2months now and still it isnt working for me at all..

Infact everyone that's used it says it isnt good, Kinda upset since i payed alot for it.

Anyways can anyone tell me if this site is legit? prices seem very low compare to others.
http://www.sports-trade.co.uk
just wanna know if anyone have bhought anything from here.

Otherwise il go ahead and order from Armie..

Or can anyone tell me where i can order it from at a good price.

Best regards
Sammi

[cricketer13]

Cover drive thanks alot :D it really did help i guess il go for 12000 then :D

Ive actually knocked my GN for 1week before using it, After i used it in nets its been almost 2months now and still it isnt working for me at all..

Infact everyone that's used it says it isnt good, Kinda upset since i payed alot for it.

Anyways can anyone tell me if this site is legit? prices seem very low compare to others.
http://www.sports-trade.co.uk
just wanna know if anyone have bhought anything from here.

Otherwise il go ahead and order from Armie..

Or can anyone tell me where i can order it from at a good price.

Best regards
Sammi

Ya try Armie or Asad at uzisports.com

[Cover Drive]

I completely agree with CD as CA12000 is superior to Bubber Sher. However, you might be interested in checking out MB Bubber Sher Limited Edition as it is made of superior willow and a better handle.

I agree with cricketer13 Bhai! However, if you are stuck in choosing a bat from MB Bubber Sher Limited Edition and CA 12000 Plus then it will have to be Bubber Sher Limited Edition.

[Cover Drive]

Cover drive thanks alot :D it really did help i guess il go for 12000 then :D

Ive actually knocked my GN for 1week before using it, After i used it in nets its been almost 2months now and still it isnt working for me at all..

Infact everyone that's used it says it isnt good, Kinda upset since i payed alot for it.

Anyways can anyone tell me if this site is legit? prices seem very low compare to others.
http://www.sports-trade.co.uk
just wanna know if anyone have bhought anything from here.

Otherwise il go ahead and order from Armie..

Or can anyone tell me where i can order it from at a good price.

Best regards
Sammi

No worries!

I haven't used that website. However, I have dealt with Armie Bhai and he is a good bloke.

[Sammi24]

So if i can get my hands on Bubber Sher limited i should get that instead of Ca12000 then?

[Cover Drive]

If you can afford MB Malik Bubber Sher Limited Edition then I would suggest you to buy that as it is MB Maliks top of the range bat and in result it will be made from top quality cleft/willow whereas Ca 12000 Plus is no longer CA top of the range bat as it has been replaced by CA 12000 Plus LE TRD.

Apart from that MB LE has a very good profile and it is very meaty blade and is miles better than normal Bubber Sher

I hope it made sense

[Sammi24]

Cover drive thanks for your help :D appreciate it alot :D il try and choose between 12000 LE or Bubber sher LE :D

I wish i could go 2 pk and select the bats my self :D i guess il have 2 trust Armie or Uzisports :D

Best Regards
Sammi

[Cover Drive]

No worries mate!

I haven't seen CA 12000 Plus LE TRD so I can't comment on that but MB LE is really good and I am sure many will agree with me.

Cricketer13 Bhai, perhaps you can shed more light on MB LE so brother Sammi can get a good image of a bat.

I have dealt with both supplier and both are trustable and good to deal with.

JazakALLAH Khair

[Sammi24]

Guys here are the pictures i received from Armie.

let me know what you think about it.

Weight is around 2.8

[Cover Drive]

Armie Bhai, always gets top notch bats and these ones are not different either.

However, one concern I have is that it is normal Bubber Sher and it is not Bubber Sher Limited Edition. Also do you mind posting face pictures of CA 12000 so we can have a better view to judge the bat

JAzakALLAH Khair

[cricketer13]

Guys here are the pictures i received from Armie.

let me know what you think about it.

Weight is around 2.8

Hey Sammi, To be honest this Bubber Sher looks overdired cleft as you can see the dryness on the blade. This will make your bat lighter but in the long run a breakage is evident. As CD said previously MB LE is your best bet, I have both MB LE and CA 12000 but MB LE is way better than CA. They both go around 14000 rupees in pakistan so you should not have any trouble with your budget there. However, if you can, you should definitely go for CA 12000 LE TRD i have seen this bat myself and will be receiving one soon.
Hope that helps.

[Cover Drive]

Hey Sammi, To be honest this Bubber Sher looks overdired cleft as you can see the dryness on the blade. This will make your bat lighter but in the long run a breakage is evident. As CD said previously MB LE is your best bet, I have both MB LE and CA 12000 but MB LE is way better than CA. They both go around 14000 rupees in pakistan so you should not have any trouble with your budget there. However, if you can, you should definitely go for CA 12000 LE TRD i have seen this bat myself and will be receiving one soon.
Hope that helps.

I am sure everyone knows that most of the clefts used by Pakistani batmakers are dried or over dried because they try to achieve thick edges, hence, willow is really dry.

[askmoi]

the bubber sher grains look good....if u get that, make sure to oil it a few times properly b4 u use it...

[cricketer13]

I am sure everyone knows that most of the clefts used by Pakistani batmakers are dried or over dried because they try to achieve thick edges, hence, willow is really dry.

I agree with you CD but if you compare those clefts with CA, there is a tremendous difference. So in between bubber sher and ca 12000, i would go for ca.

[askmoi]

btw is this site legit http://www.bestwayshop.com (http://www.bestwayshop.com) ??

seems to be based in pakistan and their prices cannot be true....

[Sammi24]

Here are the pictures of the CA 12000.

Same weight

[cricketer13]

Here are the pictures of the CA 12000.

Same weight

WOW! amazing grains. Nice profile, get your hands on this beast bro.

[Poison]

That CA looks incredible

[Cover Drive]

WOW! amazing grains. Nice profile, get your hands on this beast bro.

I agree with cricketer13 bhai. THis CA looks amazing especially when you consider that it is no longer top drawer bat but this specific piece is awesome. I would never thinkk before getting this piece :)

[Cover Drive]

btw is this site legit http://www.bestwayshop.com (http://www.bestwayshop.com) ??

seems to be based in pakistan and their prices cannot be true....

If it is based in Pakistan then it is fake for sure as original MRF etc can't be supplied by a Pakistan retailer.

[askmoi]

yeah...the ca plus 12k looks amazing.....looks a g1+ willow....u shud def get that....

[Sammi24]

Well seems like il get the CA 12000 Lets hope Armie sends me this piece :D

It does look really nice

[askmoi]

If it is based in Pakistan then it is fake for sure as original MRF etc can't be supplied by a Pakistan retailer.

something abt this didnt look right...

[cricket_fan1]

btw is this site legit http://www.bestwayshop.com (http://www.bestwayshop.com) ??

seems to be based in pakistan and their prices cannot be true....

Brother I have written some tips under this thread for online shopping cricket equipment or other goods.
Please please verify first address and phone and registration #from local trade body etc before any payment to online shops.

[Sammi24]

Do bats from PK get drilled when they are sent to Europe?

Coz i really dont have 325usd 2 spend on something thats gonna be useless :D

[Sammi24]

http://www.sports-trade.co.uk/ guys the prices on this site arent they abit low? or is it just me?

[Cover Drive]

Brother Sammi,

No they don't get drilled when coming to Europe. I know many people who have bought bats from Armie Bhai and got shipped to Europe and they arrived perfectly fine. Lately Majid Bhai (Majid_V3 on PP) got two bats from Armie and got shipped to Europe and they arrived safely with no issues whatsoever.

[cricket_fan1]

Do bats from PK get drilled when they are sent to Europe?

Coz i really dont have 325usd 2 spend on something thats gonna be useless :D

If bats are not shipped with proper documents then you not ignore chance to drilled.

[Armie]

Well seems like il get the CA 12000 Lets hope Armie sends me this piece :D

It does look really nice


You'll get what you see buddy. Don't worry about it.

[Sammi24]

I hope Armie will get the CA bat in 2.7 weight range soon :D dont wanna buy 1more thats same weight as my GN 2.9.

Need something lighter especially since ive started opening.

[Cover Drive]

When you get a 2.7 piece it will feel much lighter than that as CA bats balance and pickup is second to none. I just hope it doesn't get too light for you at some stages

[Knightrider]

I concur with Uzair Miyyan. I bought a SF LE from Ajit(onlinestockist) earlier this season that felt almost 2 light. Weight was 2.7/2.8 but pick up was incredibly light. I had to sell that bat because it was slightly 2 light for me to use. Here are pictures of that bat super lush grains and excellent ping.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/SFLimitedEditionbat.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/SFLimitedEditionbat1.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/SFLimitedEditionbat2.jpg

[cric_fan82]

Hey majid, whatz up man? how much did u pay for that bat?

[Sammi24]

Thanks for all the help so fare guys really appreciate it.

Does 220 dollars sound 2 cheap for a CA 10000 LE mani? ( do you think it will be fake )?

Best Regards
Sammi

[xkalibur80]

Thanks for all the help so fare guys really appreciate it.

Does 220 dollars sound 2 cheap for a CA 10000 LE mani? ( do you think it will be fake )?

Best Regards
Sammi

Hey bud, if you are spending over $200 on a Pakistani bat, why don't you look at some of the English bats where you will get a much better hand made bat for maybe $30-$40 more.

You can probably get a Newbury bat for around $270 and I can assure you that you won't be disappointed.

Personally, I would never pay that much for a Pakistani bat.

[Sammi24]

Xkalibur m8 ive already got a GN 5star powerbow.

And tbh it dosnt perform very well at all.. Ping is crap on it.

Question is can you get CA bats for 200 dollars that are genuine? Like 12000 or 10000 LE Mani.

[xkalibur80]

It's hard to tell by the price as the mark-up on all Pakistani bats is 100-200%

Ask the seller to send you pictures of the bat and then we will be in a position to tell you.

Going back to the point I made about English bats, I was very specific when I said Newbury...I have never used GN so I wouldn't know the difference but I can assure you that you will not be disappointed with Newbury. It's your money but if you want the biggest bang for your buck, English bats are the way to go.

[Oxy]

When did Pakistani bats get so expensive?

I mean everything else that is manufactured in Pakistan is usually about 50-80% cheaper than everywhere else due to lower all round costs/expenses - yet bats have a massive mark up?

[Sammi24]

These are the pictures.

Please have a look at it.

[Sammi24]

I am really confused regarding which bat i should get tbh.

There seem 2 be different price tags on same bat every where :D

Armie is charging 325 dollars for it. + his been very helpful :D i would have ordered from him if he had the bat in 2.8.

Uzi is charging almost the same.

the guy who sent me pictures is charging 200dollars included with shipping.

please heelp me out :D

[Opener]

When did Pakistani bats get so expensive?

I mean everything else that is manufactured in Pakistan is usually about 50-80% cheaper than everywhere else due to lower all round costs/expenses - yet bats have a massive mark up?

I don't think it is the manufacturers but the licensed retailers worldwide who usually have a big markup. The most expensive mass production bat in Pakistan (to my knowledge) is the CA 12000 PLus TRD which is about 150 pounds.

Moss decent mass production bats in Uk sell for much higher than that.

The issue is that a UK bat bought in UK for example may turn out to be sometimes cheaper than a Pakistani bat bought in UK from a licensed dealer.

[Opener]

I am really confused regarding which bat i should get tbh.

There seem 2 be different price tags on same bat every where :D

Armie is charging 325 dollars for it. + his been very helpful :D i would have ordered from him if he had the bat in 2.8.

Uzi is charging almost the same.

the guy who sent me pictures is charging 200dollars included with shipping.

please heelp me out :D

I am not sure where you are located but why don't you call CA directly or send them an e-mail. This way you will get the best price and won't have to worry about fakes.

[Sammi24]

I am located in Denmark.

If anyone have a email i can use 2 contact them please do share :D

[Opener]

Their website is http://www.cawears.com/. You can find the contact information form there. I sent a query to sales@ca-sports.com.pk and was sent a reply within a day. You may call them to get a quicker response. The price they quoted me was almost the same as the price they charge in Pakistan. Hope that helps.

[Knightrider]

Hey majid, whatz up man? how much did u pay for that bat?
Bas yaar badia hoon apni sunao? I paid around £135 for the SF stanford Limited Edition bat I got small discount because I bought 3 bats together. I bought a New Bat today from a local shop today. I will post some pictures in my next post. Btw its a Gray Nicolls Evo 5 star.

[Knightrider]

Pakistan Zindabad.

[Knightrider]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/APNAGN5STARBAT.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/5starbat.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/5starbat2.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/5starbat3.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/5starbat5.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/5555.jpg
Bought another new bat today from a local shop. Gray Nicolls Evo 5 star, weight 2.9lb(1169 grams), light pick up, decent straight grains looks Grade 1-2, 34mm edges, no concaving and excellent ping tested it with a ball and a mallet. I'll do a full review in few days.
Feel free to ask questions

[Sammi24]

Those grains look much better then my powerbow 5 star.

They are crap seriously.

[Cover Drive]

Thanks for all the help so fare guys really appreciate it.

Does 220 dollars sound 2 cheap for a CA 10000 LE mani? ( do you think it will be fake )?

Best Regards
Sammi

No, it does not sound cheap. The fact is that CA no longer make this model.

[Cover Drive]

These are the pictures.

Please have a look at it.

I have a feeling its not a genuine CA. I am guessing you got these pictures from a Ebay dude? If so then it is fake in my opinion.

[Knightrider]

Those grains look much better then my powerbow 5 star.

They are crap seriously.
thanks Sammy.
MY bats usually have top quality grains but this one only has 5/6 but still performs really really well. Gray Nicolls usually grade their bats on performance & not looks.

[Cover Drive]

When did Pakistani bats get so expensive?

I mean everything else that is manufactured in Pakistan is usually about 50-80% cheaper than everywhere else due to lower all round costs/expenses - yet bats have a massive mark up?

Its not the bats which have got expensive, in fact, its the seller who is selling for a high price. For instance, if a seller or retailer is in UK then prices of Pakistani bats will be high as freight and other charges increases the purchasing price, hence, price is increased.

As far English bats goes it is cheaper for them to get them.

I was in rush so I hope it made sense.

[Knightrider]

I have a feeling its not a genuine CA. I am guessing you got these pictures from a Ebay dude? If so then it is fake in my opinion.
That CA is fake. Btw Uzair Miyyan I emailed you, check ur inbox

[Cover Drive]

It's hard to tell by the price as the mark-up on all Pakistani bats is 100-200%

Ask the seller to send you pictures of the bat and then we will be in a position to tell you.

Going back to the point I made about English bats, I was very specific when I said Newbury...I have never used GN so I wouldn't know the difference but I can assure you that you will not be disappointed with Newbury. It's your money but if you want the biggest bang for your buck, English bats are the way to go.

Brother Sammi,

I agree with xkalibur80 bhai on this fact. If you add little bit of more then you can for sure a good English bat. For instance, I paid $300 for a pair of Newbery Test Gloves and Newbery Krakatoa Players. Honestly, there is a huge difference in quality of GN bats and Newbery bats. Newbery is miles ahead and is way better than GN as Newbery is somewhat handmade. Craftsmanship of Newbery bats is just in different class and I don't think it is comparative with GN.

[Cover Drive]

I am located in Denmark.

If anyone have a email i can use 2 contact them please do share :D

CA will not have problem with that whatsoever. I think someone else on this forum ordered lots of stuff directly from AS factory and they were in Denmark as well (if I am correct)

[Oxy]

Not equipment, but some clothing :)

I have my eye on an England test shirt with the 3 Lions embroidered in gold - looks beautiful! Need a good top for when I lose 4 stone & make a comeback next summer! Just missing the 1999 WC top - lets not think about the 96/97 one! Gross!

http://i34.tinypic.com/1zganwh.jpg

[Cover Drive]

MY bats usually have top quality grains but this one only has 5/6 but still performs really really well. Gray Nicolls usually grade their bats on performance & not looks.

Majid Bhai, its another beauty you have landed in your collection. This bat looks good and I hope it goes really well. To be honest, I have seen GN Ignite Pro Performance (which is top of the line) and it had 6 grains. So as you said GN grades their bats on performance not on physical look.

[Cover Drive]

Not equipment, but some clothing :)

I have my eye on an England test shirt with the 3 Lions embroidered in gold - looks beautiful! Need a good top for when I lose 4 stone & make a comeback next summer!

http://i34.tinypic.com/1zganwh.jpg
Wow! Thats like a million dollar collection! Seriously it looks great! No wonder you hated AJ Sports :)

[Oxy]

Wow! Thats like a million dollar collection! Seriously it looks great! No wonder you hated AJ Sports :)

Still do :)

All they have to do is produce a high quality item of clothing - and they cany do it!

Although BoomBoom are fast catching up. I hope to get the 99 top soon, and maybe a BoomBoom one if its a stand out top, and not something generic

[Sammi24]

Its a Dealer in UK selling those bats.

Anyways ive ordered one i can only pray its genuine.

[Sammi24]

Its not ebay or anything.

He said bats are direct from the CA Factory

[Knightrider]

Cancel it Sammy Bhai. Its a fake bat I know bcoz my neighbour once bought these bats from the same guy.

[Cover Drive]

Sammi Bhai,

Top of the line CA bats have two silver shiny stickers. One says CA and other says 'VIP'. That above bat has one of them. Nevertheless, I hope it goes really well and hope its worth what you paid.

Oxy Bhai,

So you think Boom Boom shirt quality is improving? Ahh 99 one is beauty and impressive.

[Sammi24]

damn how the hell do i cancel it

[Sammi24]

i guess there is not much i can do since payment is made today.. Via alertpay and they are already closed. :(

[bigfan]

GN make better bats than Newberry IMO. Newberry have better looking designs with GN still what I would call old school with straight face and edges, where Newberry have embraced a more asian design. Both are handmade don't forget. Though Machine will always be better than handmade, machines can cut every time closer than 0.5mm, no human can make the same bat twice. just look at the spine on a handmade bat its never 100% straight.

But GN bats have a power that is greater than all other manufacturers I have ever used. The two most powerful bats Ive ever used is a GN ignite giant 6 grains could hit miles! Next is a GN fusion maybe 8/9 grains not the same clout as the ignite but if you hit it flat it would keep going (think flat six over point never getting above 10ft)

When you get a GN it looks better finished than other bats edges are beautiful rounded off face as hard as a rock, you can smash it with a mallet right from the get go and it doesn't leave any dents. I will say though, their low range bats are average and the good stuff I think is over priced. But on judging which bats play better GN all the way.

[Cover Drive]

Bigfan,

I disagree with your given statement. GN produce bats at very large scale, hence, their quality would not be great as primarily they are focusing on the number of bats being made. By doing that quality is then overlooked. On the other hand Newbery primarily focus on quality and not quantity as they don't have to produce vast amount of bats as GN.

Actually GN is not handmade whereas Newbery is. However, it has also been said few times that GN bats are made in India. If GN starts making handmade bats then God knows how long it will take.

I guess the GN you got was knocked and edges were rounded off but they are not knocked nor there edges are rounded off.

Just wondering that have you owned a Newbery?

[Sammi24]

Pheeewwww saved by my banker :D

payment was not paid :D

now il wait for Armie :D

[Poison]

I really want the GM model bat that Umar Akmal uses.

[Cover Drive]

Its GM Flare. For me Flare and Icon have best stickers.

[Cover Drive]

Brother Sammi, I am glad that it didn't go thru as if it went then you would have lost everything.

Good stuff!

[02thoeva]

Bigfan,

I disagree with your given statement. GN produce bats at very large scale, hence, their quality would not be great as primarily they are focusing on the number of bats being made. By doing that quality is then overlooked. On the other hand Newbery primarily focus on quality and not quantity as they don't have to produce vast amount of bats as GN.

Actually GN is not handmade whereas Newbery is. However, it has also been said few times that GN bats are made in India. If GN starts making handmade bats then God knows how long it will take.

I guess the GN you got was knocked and edges were rounded off but they are not knocked nor there edges are rounded off.

Just wondering that have you owned a Newbery?
Newbery aren't handmade, certainly no more than GN.

They have a CNC machine which is an earlier version of the GM one and it does almost exactly the same job. They come off the machine, the handle is shaped and then they're sanded.

Newbery aren't a small company, their factory also make for many others.

[Cover Drive]

Uhmm then why would their bats say 'handmade'? They certainly won't like to have a bad image and won't lie on this fact.

So in what sense Screeaming Cat are handmade?

I think compare to GN they are a bit small.

[Sammi24]

Guys i got a Question.

When looking for a new bat which kinda things should i look for before deciding if the bat is gonna perform?

[Sammi24]

especially since i dont have the bat in my hand :D

how should grains look and the willow and etc.

Hope i am not being to much trouble :D

[Cover Drive]

Sammi24,

Mate, we are here for you so ask as many question you want to.

Anyways back to your question. Since you are buying bats from abroad and buying them based on pictures then few things to look for and ask for if you want a top stick are;

- Type of handle. Many people (especially me) ignore the importance of handles. Handles are like engine of bats like it is in cars. Ask which handle is it as there are different kind and type of handles.

- When looking at grains structure make sure the grains are straight. Try your best to get ruler straight grains bat. Also make sure the face of the blade is knot free and blemish free. Having knots in a bat is a concern whereas blemishes really don't affect the performance of the bat. ideal grains in a bat are 8-11 as Julian says. Fewer the grains are longer the bat will last and vice versa.

- Make sure the willow is balanced when it comes to moisture level. If the williow is over dried then it will not last very long because willows life span is reduced if its very dry.

I hope this helps. I am sure I have missed few things but really can't recall them, however, I will leep on adding them. Sorry

[bigfan]

I'm talking about their top of the line bats obviously. They come out of a factory in Australia, check their website.
You need to check out the actual bats not decide based on quantity of production, if you can sell a hell of a lot of bats as GN do, you must be doing something right. How bout you go and inspect a new bat then come back and tell us.
Of all the newberry bats I have used I always though they were on the thin side.

[Armie]

thanks.

[Sammi24]

CD m8 or anyone else :D

What do you think of the bat Armie bhai posted before?

2 me it looks amazing :D

[Sammi24]

Armie Bhai please agree so i can take that piece off u :DDD

[cricketer13]

CD m8 or anyone else :D

What do you think of the bat Armie bhai posted before?

2 me it looks amazing :D

Both CA's that Armie posted are top notch. CA 12000 LE TRD is top of the range so if I dont have budget constraint I will go with this.

[Armie]

Sammi gave you a great offer buddy, its a good one :)

[Knightrider]

Armie Bhai can u please comment on my GN Evo 5 star bat on csf. Its in GN bat review section

[Sammi24]

Looking forward to receiving that bat Armie :D

Thanks so fare.

[Knightrider]

Majid Bhai how does that 12k TRD look? :D
very very good but slightly 2 light for me.

[Sammi24]

Really looking forward to receiving that bat :D

its perfect weight for me :D

Armie bhai had the best price for that bat :D

[Knightrider]

YH i got ur email while back abt 10-15 mins ago. whats the edge size on the bat? Is the pick up lighter then the CA plus extra power I got from you recently?

[Armie]

i reckon they are around 35mm if not more. The pickup is pretty good too.

[02thoeva]

Uhmm then why would their bats say 'handmade'? They certainly won't like to have a bad image and won't lie on this fact.

So in what sense Screeaming Cat are handmade?

I think compare to GN they are a bit small.
Because 99% of people will never visit their factory or see the bats being made. Choose whether to believe me or not.

I don't know about Screaming Cat, I have learned to only comment on things I've seen first hand in cricket.

[Knightrider]

bigfan,
what do u think of my GN Evo 5 star? any comments?

[bigfan]

I haven't held an EVO yet, but they look exact same as the Fusion design.
It looks like a nice piece of willow. straight grains. all sapwood. Is the grip a scale?
Once you knock it in good, (it looks like its pre-prepared make sure you give it more knocking) its going to be power packed. More and more, Ive seen those top end GN's with only 5/6 grains they are the most powerful bats I have used.

[Cover Drive]

Because 99% of people will never visit their factory or see the bats being made. Choose whether to believe me or not.

I don't know about Screaming Cat, I have learned to only comment on things I've seen first hand in cricket.

fair enough.

its not that I don't believe you. Honestly, you are the most knowledgeable person on this forum when it comes to bat so I am not sure if anyone will disagree with you :)

So by handmade what exactly do batmakers mean?

[Sammi24]

Well Thanks to everyone helping me decide the bat :D

CD your been really helpfull thanks alot.

Started with Bubber sher :D ended with 12000 TRD :D hihi.

Will post pic when i have it in my hands.

Best Regards
Sammi Khan

[bigfan]

Cover Drive why are you so obsessed with "hand made"?
As I think of it, I want a skilled bat maker to put the handle in every bat I own. I doubt there is a machine that could do it as well. (in the future who knows) then to shape the bat a CNC mill would have to be superior because it can create shapes no human could. like I said before they can cut to within 0.5mm.

In saying that no computer can take into account things like pickup or balance, a master bat maker will check the bat as they go, no doubt but in the end are they not compensating for the cleft to being with? If you plugged in weight numbers to a computer modeling system the computer/CNC mill could come up with something equally as good.

Does anyone know if the current crop of bats with the really high spine (adidas pellara) are only made on CNC mills? Wouldn't you need some crazy shaping tools to put that concave shape in the back by hand?