Questions Regarding Cricket Equipment (Bats, Pads, Gloves etc) [Archive] - Page 16 - PakPassion

AamerM

22nd September 2010, 07:24

what do you make of warsop/redback vs M&H?

Also do you think that harlequin would be best suited for pitches with low bounce? I love the bat - just fear i'd never hit the middle depending on the pitches i play. Also, i love lofting over the infield, not sure this is the right bat for that kind of game?

My son's friend has a Warsop venom and it is a lovely bat. I can't comment on redback as have never seen one in the flesh. It just comes down to personal choice in the end.

M&H Solution (black stickers) has a low middle so maybe more suited to your style of play.

22nd September 2010, 12:30

My bat;

http://i56.tinypic.com/25iw8k2.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/soqy44.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/15i21dd.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/f1y3w2.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/i1hajc.jpg

Cover Drive

22nd September 2010, 12:55

cj looks great. Although Sher Amins are G2 now you landed yourself a beauty. I hope it goes well for you.

22nd September 2010, 13:20

thanks mate i've sent you a message

Cover Drive

22nd September 2010, 13:29

Actually they have demoted Sher Amin after introducing Bubber Sher and Bubber Sher Limited Edition. So they demoted Sher Amin which in past before introducing Bubber Sher and Bubber Sher Limited Edition used to be top of the line bat.

nevertheless, your piece is a great one and is looks great so dont worry :)

22nd September 2010, 14:28

When did they introduce Bubber Sher and Bubber Sher LE?

Also, can you tell what grade willow a bat is just by looking at the face?

cricket_fan1

22nd September 2010, 14:37

CJ
This Time MB Sher Amin is best bat in market according to price.

Cover Drive

22nd September 2010, 14:52

When did they introduce Bubber Sher and Bubber Sher LE?

Also, can you tell what grade willow a bat is just by looking at the face?

Uhmm I think Bubber Sher was introduced just over a year ago. Whereas MB LE was intriduced 3-4 months ago I believe.

Which bat? Your Sher Amin? If so then it is G2

Ali Raja

23rd September 2010, 11:50

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8807/lunase.jpg
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/5636/flare.jpg

Ugly looking stickers compared to the current ones. And which idiot would want to replace a bat called 'Hero' with a bat called 'Luna'????

Brown bat? It looks sh** in every way.

Knightrider

23rd September 2010, 19:34

It's only a catalog scan, the colors are better in person. However the design is the same.

Ali Raja

23rd September 2010, 23:22

I know, but still. You'd expect the newer ones to be better than the older ones. These designs look boring and not so creative.

SempreSami

25th September 2010, 00:48

Also, my gear.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb103/SempreSami/DSC00855.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb103/SempreSami/DSC00853.jpg

Cover Drive

25th September 2010, 13:43

Looks great SS!

Pads, gloves and bag looks very good. Which bag is it again?

The bat looks really good for 909. If I am correct 909's are G2, right?

Poison

25th September 2010, 13:55

Used my bat (Ihsan Inferno 350) today in first match on turf ... major MAJOR cracking along spine of blade, don't know what to do now :(

Paradox

25th September 2010, 13:57

Ouch.

On the other hand, how was the game? Did you score? Fours? Sixes? :D

Wickets? Catches?

Cover Drive

25th September 2010, 14:25

Used my bat (Ihsan Inferno 350) today in first match on turf ... major MAJOR cracking along spine of blade, don't know what to do now :(

Sorry to hear that but can you upload a picture or two?

Poison

25th September 2010, 14:30

Ouch.

On the other hand, how was the game? Did you score? Fours? Sixes? :D

Wickets? Catches?

First game on turf, came in at 5 with 10 overs to go needing 160 to win...:inti Wild hoick was attempted and stumps splattered.

I did get 2-48 while bowling though :saqi

Sorry to hear that but can you upload a picture or two?

Yes will do insha'Allah soon

Knightrider

25th September 2010, 21:31

Uzair, GM 909's are Grade 1 English Willow and thanks Paradox Bhai.

Cover Drive

25th September 2010, 21:46

Uzair, GM 909's are Grade 1 English Willow and thanks Paradox Bhai.

Ah okay. JazakALLAH Khair, no wonder it looked like a grade one.

It would have been a really good bat for a left hander/

SempreSami

25th September 2010, 22:53

909s are Grade 1, this is GM's replacement for a Hero which I sent back after the shoulder cracked after two net sessions then didn't get back to me for months. After I expressed my dissatisfaction, Steve had it sorted rather quickly.

25th September 2010, 22:55

Has anyone used the same bat since you started playing or do you like to buy a new one every season?

SempreSami

25th September 2010, 23:22

I've had this bat for roughly a year now and plan to have it refurbed by Gunn & Moore so that it's like having a new bat next season. It's still got a lot of life in it, that piece of wood.

25th September 2010, 23:55

I've had this bat for roughly a year now and plan to have it refurbed by Gunn & Moore so that it's like having a new bat next season. It's still got a lot of life in it, that piece of wood.
Sweet

Does that cost much?

Knightrider

26th September 2010, 00:09

yeah costs a lot. Getting a GM bat restickered costs £32. And repairs will probably cost bit more.

Paradox

26th September 2010, 03:09

Poison, was it a mighty 0 (1)?! :)))

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 03:19

Has anyone used the same bat since you started playing or do you like to buy a new one every season?

Oh yes I still have my bats which I got/bought when I started to play hardball cricket last year.

SempreSami

26th September 2010, 03:19

Posts on other forums suggest that 32 quids is the standard quoted price for a bit of damage repair Majid, do your research. Waiting on a reply from them with more clear cut details, though I'd imagine they're busy at this time of the trade shows and whatnot.

Edit by Mods: Please avoid calling inappropriate name calling. Thanks

SempreSami

26th September 2010, 03:39

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 03:58

The first bat I used when facing proper cricket balls was a Slazenger V800 Panther back in 2000, given that I'm probably a foot taller than I used to be then, using a Harrow bat is out of the question. And my Hero DXM is more powerful anyway.

Have heard alot about Slaz V100, V200 etc being people first bats. I guess something was special in them. Although I am not very old follower of crikcter bats I am quite interested in seeing Slaz new range (2011).

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 04:00

By the way, mine are GN Powerbow 3* and plain Pakistani bat. Both are good but "ping wise" Gn is like a train and pings really well now although it took a while to open open. On the other hand the Pakistani bat has very good profile, shape etc but it seems to be dead especially after oiling it.

bigfan

26th September 2010, 09:52

Majid thought you would happy to know I used that GN Fusion again. 42 is very quick time. 4 4's and 4 6's. The bat is the most powerful thing ever! I hit this spinner over a 20 foot high wire fence 60 meters away into the water.

Poison

26th September 2010, 10:14

Poison, was it a mighty 0 (1)?! :)))

It was a mighty 0 (4) :jm

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 16:42

Since the cricket season has ended most of the retailers have sale going on. Is anyone planning to buy anything? If so one of the retailer who I would recommend from my personal experience would be Uzi Sports who have good sale going on.

mrk

26th September 2010, 20:26

One of my club players was in UK and bhought Newbery TT bat for 285£. Its just amzaing willow. He says he cant wait to test it in league. Bat weight is 2.15 but feels like 2.9 2.8

TT bat was tested by SKY and give it 4.5/5 read review here http://origin.skysports.com/story/0,19528,15964_6374449,00.html

http://www.newbery.co.uk/images/stories/newbery-tt-cricket-bat-2.jpg

cric_fan82

26th September 2010, 20:48

^^ that looks one hell of a bat!

i gotta question what kinda protective tapes do fielders use on there hands sometimes?? my hands take a beating while fielding/catching so anyone has any idea where can i get hold of that tape to cover my fingers?

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 21:29

Newbery TT is the new Newbery bat which has been added to there 2011 catalgue along Thruxton pads and gloves. If you look at a face picture then you will notice the shoulders are shaped.

Haven't read or seen much about it but Newbery makes quality sticks.

SempreSami

26th September 2010, 21:48

My gear's more or less fine, although I'd pick up a pair of Original LE pads if I could get them at a decent price. For the time being I'm happy to wait until next season and pick up an Icon or Flare from the new GM range.

26th September 2010, 22:44

TT looks pretty nice but I personally wouldn't pay that much for a bat. £150 max.

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 22:46

To be honest, now I don't like buying bigger brands top of the line bats. The reason is that they produce in mass quantity that some brands quality has been going down immensely. So I rather buy a Salix, Newbery, Screaming Cat, M&H etc. I mean they are smaller brands compare to GN, GM etc but there bats in my opinion are better.

As far pads and gloves goes I am fine with the bigger brands if they are at bargain price.

LAst year I bought 09 GM Original LE pads for 46 pounds shipped within UK which I didn't find bad at all!

Cover Drive

26th September 2010, 22:46

TT looks pretty nice but I personally wouldn't pay that much for a bat. £150 max.

Nah Newbery are worth more with ease!

26th September 2010, 23:24

what kinda protective tapes do fielders use on there hands sometimes??
Plasters to cover blisters & normal masking tape I think to cover wedding rings etc.
I haven't seen anything out there designed for cricket

To be honest, now I don't like buying bigger brands top of the line bats. The reason is that they produce in mass quantity that some brands quality has been going down immensely. So I rather buy a Salix, Newbery, Screaming Cat, M&H etc. I mean they are smaller brands compare to GN, GM etc but there bats in my opinion are better.
I have to agree

I like to buy bats from left field brands and not just go with what's popular. Generally cheaper too.

http://www.alibaba.com/ is a good website.

SempreSami

26th September 2010, 23:43

Surely everyone saying that they do that makes it the popular choice?

27th September 2010, 00:07

Surely everyone saying that they do that makes it the popular choice?
Players at my club mainly use G&M, Gray Nicolls and Kookaburra and are almost afraid to buy from any smaller, different brands so just speaking from experience sorry.

Cover Drive

27th September 2010, 00:11

SS, I am not saying the bigger brand bats are poor, I amnjust saying that comparing them to relatively smaller brands such as Newbery, Salix etc they have better made bats as they mainly make handmade bats. Again I am not saying the bigger brands bat are poor but the quality of them is being overlooked.

dhump

27th September 2010, 06:42

Gray-Nicc legend looks awesome really can we have bigger scan of it CD ???

02thoeva

27th September 2010, 14:37

Opener

27th September 2010, 14:47

CD bhai, I think Newbery bats are better because of their pressing. They are not handmade. If you are looking for handmade bats you might look at some of the smaller brands who have their bats pressed at Newbery.

Cover Drive

27th September 2010, 16:07

Newbery and Salix are no more handmade than the likes of Kookaburra, Adidas etc. In fact they're less so.

So why do there stickers say 'Handmade'?

I guess Newbery were handmades only when John was around and I believe ever since Tim took over they are not handmades?

Do you know which brands in the whole world make handmade bats? Few which I think are Screaming Cat, M&H and Redback. CAn you complete the list?

CD bhai, I think Newbery bats are better because of their pressing. They are not handmade. If you are looking for handmade bats you might look at some of the smaller brands who have their bats pressed at Newbery.

I know Gary bats are pressed at Newbery but I am not sure if it means they are handmade or not.

Opener

27th September 2010, 16:16

From what I know CD bhai SAF are also shaped at Newbery, and totally customized to your specifications. I think Redbacks are also handmade but not as customized as SAF.

Cover Drive

27th September 2010, 16:23

From what I know CD bhai SAF are also shaped at Newbery, and totally customized to your specifications. I think Redbacks are also handmade but not as customized as SAF.

Gary does have customization option I believe although three of his stock bats are Surefire, Paradox and Allegiance. But I am sure you can get your prefered shape bat as well.

But its all about money. I mean if you pay more then you can get Custom MAde Newbery as well.

SempreSami

27th September 2010, 19:06

Newbery and Salix are no more handmade than the likes of Kookaburra, Adidas etc. In fact they're less so.

I don't understand, Salix bats are crafted by Andrew Kember and co on a farm just outside Maidstone.

SempreSami

27th September 2010, 20:37

Kookaburra 2011 Catalogue (http://www.kookaburra.biz/uploads/files/Kookaburra-cricket-2011uk.pdf)

The new Rogue looks rather nice. Kookaburra are probably the best company when it comes to implementing bright colours into their gear.

Also, Watson's the latest player to switch to the Albion Ultimate 98 helmet.
http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/122300/122340.jpg

Cover Drive

27th September 2010, 20:57

Seems like all of Australians are are going to Albion or are sponsored by them. My brother has Ablion 98 but it doesn't fit me. One thing I dont like about his helmet is that your view isn't that clear.

Yup! I agree with Kookaburra. By the way, Puma aren't bad either.

Knightrider

27th September 2010, 21:33

Uzair, I went cricket shopping today. 1st shop I went to had GN Xiphos 5 star bat for £88( bat had 5 straight grains, 2.9, feather light pick up and decent thick shape)
2nd shop also had a GN Xiphos 5 star bat for £140( perfect clean 9/10 straight grains, 2.11 light pick up and shape was bigger then the other bat I saw 1st.
Which bat do u think I should go for?

Cover Drive

27th September 2010, 22:26

Hmm I would say go for first option. Since both bats are of same grade I would say choose the cheaper option. BUT you will have to be patience as it will take time in opening up.

27th September 2010, 22:58

Anyone on here lucky enough to own a cricket shop?

SempreSami

27th September 2010, 23:50

I couldn't own a cricket shop, it would spoil the excitement of visiting one.

02thoeva

27th September 2010, 23:51

I don't understand, Salix bats are crafted by Andrew Kember and co on a farm just outside Maidstone.
Correct, however I understand they're handmade to a lesser degree than Indian bats. Newbery definitely are. Do you know if Salix make all their bats in house?

SempreSami

27th September 2010, 23:55

As far as I know, yes. They only deal in grade one bats, the same reason they don't do sponsorships for first-class players, there isn't enough to go round.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 00:21

Newbery and Salix are no more handmade than the likes of Kookaburra, Adidas etc. In fact they're less so.

Correct, however I understand they're handmade to a lesser degree than Indian bats. Newbery definitely are. Do you know if Salix make all their bats in house?

The two bolded parts don't go together. Do they?

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 00:23

:akhtarAnyone on here lucky enough to own a cricket shop?

I know few on this forum who own and runs a store. However, I also know a guy on this forum who owns a well respected brand.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 02:09

Mang I can't wait for the start of next season, GM's new stuff looks awesome.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 02:30

You liked it? Seriously I hated it! I like the current one to be better looking. The Original LE pads look same as this years expect the interior is different and few other changes.

I would rather buy this years compare to next years.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 02:36

I like the new arrowhead styling.

Decipher

28th September 2010, 03:02

Majid Bhai ... what size of bat and other equipment do you personally use if I may kindly ask?

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 13:48

The two bolded parts don't go together. Do they?

I don't get what you're on about.

Newbery use a machine. Salix import, finish some and also hand make a few.

Indians sit on the floor legs crossed and use minimal machinery.

I've been there done it and got the t-shirt, believe what you want. But all your posts seem to be hearsay and based on others opinions, not on what you've seen with your own eyes.

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 13:49

As far as I know, yes. They only deal in grade one bats, the same reason they don't do sponsorships for first-class players, there isn't enough to go round.
Advice, visit the SS factory. See what they're churning out.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 13:52

I don't get what you're on about.

Newbery use a machine. Salix import, finish some and also hand make a few.

Indians sit on the floor legs crossed and use minimal machinery.

I've been there done it and got the t-shirt, believe what you want. But all your posts seem to be hearsay and based on others opinions, not on what you've seen with your own eyes.

From your earlier post I thought they made ZERO hand made bats.

Does that apply to ALL Indians brand or just one or two you have visited?

The reason why I rely on other opinions is because I haven't been to any factor which I guess is the issue for most who don't live in UK.

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:00

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 14:05

Hang on, where did I say they made zero hand made bats? I said "they're no more handmade than Adidas"

I'm talking about the vast majority of Indian factories. I've visited more than one or two.

That's fine, but you come across as the font of all knowledge on cricket bats. When all it is is regurgitated, and often incorrect info.

I didn't say you said, in fact, I said I thought.

Have you visited any Pakistani factory?

I haven't been into cricket equipment for a long time. It all started in Feb/March etc and got all the information from here or there on forums. I don't run a brand or business like you.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 14:07

Advice, visit the SS factory. See what they're churning out.

Bats that snap across the splice just below the shoulder like my cousin's?

That doesn't look like they import bats. (http://salixcricketbats.com/brand/manufacturing.html)

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:11

Sempre, believe what you want to believe.

Haven't visited a Pakistani factory, although I've met quite a few of the brand and factory owners.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 14:15

Considering how few Salix bats you see in shops and their high prices, I'd say they're telling the truth.

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:17

Yep, and if you believe they only sell G1 bats handmade in England then that's fair enough.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 14:25

Maybe if you had proof...

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:30

What counts as proof? They already offer a Kashmir willow bat for sale.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 14:32

No one cares about a 30 pound bat that doesn't go beyond size 6.

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:40

How about you bring something to the table, tell me something I don't know about cricket bats? Show that you're the knowledgeable one around here.

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 14:43

I'm not the one who comes in accusing manufacturers of doing stuff that they don't list on their company website.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 14:44

Sempre, believe what you want to believe.

Haven't visited a Pakistani factory, although I've met quite a few of the brand and factory owners.

Oh okay. Thanks!

So are they handmade? I know MB Malik bat says 'Handmade' on them but again I am not saying they are handmade because you just told us that Newbery aren't even though there stickers say they are handmade.

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:45

Who is the one then?

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 14:49

Oh okay. Thanks!

So are they handmade? I know MB Malik bat says 'Handmade' on them but again I am not saying they are handmade because you just told us that Newbery aren't even though there stickers say they are handmade.

The thing is there are various definitions of handmade.

You can have sat on the floor shaping every bat handmade.
You can use a bandsaw and planer to remove the rough edges of the cleft then use tradition tools.
You can rough shape using a converted furniture copier (see an old Woodworm video, this shows Hunts County's)
You can use a CAD/CAM machine (ala GM) then sand and stick the stickers on.

I don't know about MB Malik. Would assume they utilise manual labour though, due to the favourable costs of man power.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 14:57

The thing is there are various definitions of handmade.

You can have sat on the floor shaping every bat handmade.
You can use a bandsaw and planer to remove the rough edges of the cleft then use tradition tools.
You can rough shape using a converted furniture copier (see an old Woodworm video, this shows Hunts County's)
You can use a CAD/CAM machine (ala GM) then sand and stick the stickers on.

I don't know about MB Malik. Would assume they utilise manual labour though, due to the favourable costs of man power.
Thanks for informative reply.

You can use a bandsaw and planer to remove the rough edges of the cleft then use tradition tools.

I was watching Julian's video last night and I am assuming he chooses this option, correct?

You can have sat on the floor shaping every bat handmade.

Do you think any big brand would do this? By big I mean GN, GM, SS, CA and so on. I know you earlier said that most Indian brands bats are handmade so wouldn't it take years and years to produce bats?

Perhaps I'll ask MB owner that same question.

02thoeva

28th September 2010, 15:00

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:03

SS do, I'll post a photo from a big Indian manufacturers workshop in a moment. The guys who make these bats do it 12hrs a day everyday and are mechanised in their approach, it means they can work quickly and efficiently each doing 20-25 bats a day. A workforce of 5 of these people and you're making 30,000 a year.

You're correct with Julian.

Wow! Never knew that but shouldn't they have a higher price tag? I mean handmade requires more labour and effort compare to machine mades.

Thanks do post a picture!

Are there any who make bats like Julian does (globally)?

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 15:07

Cheap labour yo.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:11

Cheap labour yo.

BUt still can't they earn a bit more money? I mean if they advertise more and more about their bats being handmade etc

Poison

28th September 2010, 15:13

BUt still can't they earn a bit more money? I mean if they advertise more and more about their bats being handmade etc

Supply and demand, if prices are inflated nobody's gonna buy the bats.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:14

Supply and demand, if prices are inflated nobody's gonna buy the bats.

I am sure there will be enough buyers :D (although I agree with you on S&D part)

By the way, are you planning to get your bat repaired?

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:16

Poison

28th September 2010, 15:16

I am sure there will be enough buyers :D

By the way, are you planning to get your bat repaired?

Will take it in to the local cricket shop and see what they can do, might need to purchase a new handle.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:17

Will take it in to the local cricket shop and see what they can do, might need to purchase a new handle.

Sorry can't remember which bat was it again?

Poison

28th September 2010, 15:18

Sorry can't remember which bat was it again?

Inferno 350 :( Not my best bat but I still like it :(

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 15:22

SempreSami, did you see new Kookaburra range? Did you like it?

Kookaburra pads have never impressed me so I really don't care about them. But I was waiting for there gloves and they weren't that bad. TO me they looked tad better than GN and GM. Having said that I find current years Blade 950 gloves to be a bit better than newer ones.

Although I liked Rogue bat.

My cousin has this year's Blade 950 pads, got them for half price in an end of season sale. They're really good and he rates them highly, although I can't help but think that they look a touch smaller than my GM pads.

I like the new range, this year's grew on me and I like the Rogue, reminds me of the old Diablo used by Damien Martyn back in the day.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:22

Inferno 350 :( Not my best bat but I still like it :(

I don't think it's worth getting rehandled. I reckon you can probably get a new bat instead of getting it rehandled.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 15:33

My cousin has this year's Blade 950 pads, got them for half price in an end of season sale. They're really good and he rates them highly, although I can't help but think that they look a touch smaller than my GM pads.

I like the new range, this year's grew on me and I like the Rogue, reminds me of the old Diablo used by Damien Martyn back in the day.

Thing is that I don't like many traditional pads. The only I like would Newbery's traditional pads other than that I really don't like any brand traditional style pads.

I really liked Rogue bats as I kinda like Orange and they look nice. If Blade 950 gloves design was used for Rogue it would have been awesome

SempreSami

28th September 2010, 15:40

I'm all for padded straps, which the Kahuna and Blade pads have.

askmoi

28th September 2010, 16:00

i personally dont see the value in paying more for these bigger brands when you can get similar quality subcontinental bats for a fraction of the price. i wouldn't mind trying one of the smaller bat makers from the uk if they can price their bats competitively

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 16:08

Ali Raja

28th September 2010, 16:50

WHen you hold both bats (Asian and English) in your hand you will notice a difference between them.

Is it worth paying that much more just because they 'feel better'? :)

Or do you feel they play better as well?

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 18:00

Is it worth paying that much more just because they 'feel better'? :)

Or do you feel they play better as well?

One of the key thing I have noticed when comparing (Asian and English) bats is that English bats are very well constructed and craftsmanship is better, in my opinion. Everyone has there own perfernce and way of looking a bat.

28th September 2010, 22:19

:akhtar

I know few on this forum who own and runs a store. However, I also know a guy on this forum who owns a well respected brand.
Can I have their usernames please? I would like to ask a couple of questions.

Cover Drive

28th September 2010, 22:47

Just list the questions in this thread and they will answer them. I am sure they are reading and following this thread.

bigfan

29th September 2010, 04:42

WHen you hold both bats (Asian and English) in your hand you will notice a difference between them.

So you prefer glossy stickers and waxed willow?

Give me a raw rough top piece of willow any day. you can make their finish just like the English bats if you put in a half hours work. And it comes prepared the way you want it to.

Don't kid yourself, the English companies spend a lot advertising this "supposed" difference from Asian ones. there is only so much one can do to a bat. If you make sure they have a 9 piece / 12 piece handle, nice shape that's about it. get some wax and polish it up if you want that special finish.

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 04:52

That was my opinion. I don't want people to agree with what I say or what I write. We have forums so everyone can express their opinions. Having sai that with your above post I am still not convinced that Asian bats are better than English.

I think Asian bats use same handles as English but they still break more often than English bats handle does.

02thoeva

29th September 2010, 10:35

SS and SG now finish as well as English brands, this is because they work extensively with them and have picked up useful tips on buffing compounds etc.

The main difference is pressing, Asian bats are notoriously under pressed in the toe in a quest to find a big bow. Newbery are able to do that same bow but press consistently well.

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 12:04

I know about SG but which brand English brand does SS work with?

Why is that? I mean if they press the toe then they won't get the bow?

02thoeva

29th September 2010, 13:38

SS do some Boom Boom, Mongoose, Nike and Puma.

ca_gold

29th September 2010, 14:03

I'm always confused as to where Puma's are made. are they made in india & then "inspected" by Robert Pack?

Do you think SG picked up those tips working closely with Kooks?

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 14:08

SS do some Boom Boom, Mongoose, Nike and Puma.

Oh thanks!

I thought Ihsan solely made Boom Boom.

askmoi

29th September 2010, 17:20

all the indian players use indian bats. i don't think they would be using them if they were in any way inferior.

a question i wanted to ask was: do these big indian companies namely SG & SS have the same machines used by their english counterparts for pressing the bats?

02thoeva

29th September 2010, 17:38

There is no stock press, they're specially built for the job so the answer is no.

Indian players get bats from all around the world, which is common for test batsman. If they're touring the UK they'll make visit to Sussex, India then they'll go to Meerut and in NZ to Hawkes Bay.

askmoi

29th September 2010, 18:04

since they press the middle to get the bow, i am assuming, if u have the contact, u can probably get them to press the toe as well.

but the stamp on the edges is not a sticker and is burnished (if that is the right word), so i assumed they were made by the indian bat makers.

anyway living here in asia, it is not cost effective for me to go for the uk bats. also almost all the bigger brands r being made in the same factories.

i would love to try one of the boutique brands like SAF. they got really good good reviews on AOC from the ex england players

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 18:10

since they press the middle to get the bow, i am assuming, if u have the contact, u can probably get them to press the toe as well.

but the stamp on the edges is not a sticker and is burnished (if that is the right word), so i assumed they were made by the indian bat makers

anyway living here in asia, it is not cost effective for me to go for the uk bats. also almost all the bigger brands r being made in the same factories.

i would love to try one of the boutique brands like SAF. they got really good good reviews on AOC from the ex england players

Some brands such as CA, MB, SG, BAS etc have ink stamped whereas SS has the one you described above.

askmoi

29th September 2010, 18:16

thanks for that piece of info.

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 18:21

No worries! Just to add if you sand it a bit then the logo will disappear.

Knightrider

29th September 2010, 19:04

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat1.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat2.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat3.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat4.jpg

Knightrider

29th September 2010, 19:17

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat5.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat6.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat7.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sssfbat8.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/sskitlargepic.jpg
Pictures of me trying out new SS pads in the kitchen. Sorry Uzair, I couldnt take pictures of all my kit today but on the weekend I will post rest of the new kit pictures inshallah...

Goggy

29th September 2010, 19:53

Knightrider

29th September 2010, 20:16

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 20:35

Lovely pics majid papa, the more i look at your kit the more envious i get.... You the man!!.

So taking into consideration your expertise of cricket bats, what would you recommend for a budget of around £120-£140??

I am assuming you are based in UK. So the cheapest option would be buy a bat from Asad Bhai at uzisports.co.uk. Many people have bought stuff from him and are extremely happy. His service is second to none and is very helpful as well. Plus he is having a sale as well (upto 50%).

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 20:37

SempreSami

29th September 2010, 22:01

If there are any cricket shops local to you, go and have a nose. Might find a beaut in the end of season sale.

Friend786

29th September 2010, 22:30

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/122300/122387.jpg

have a look at dhoni's new bat !

Knightrider

29th September 2010, 22:33

Majid Bhai, MashALLAH your pads look impressive. As Googly said the more you look the more you like. Yaar you should have tried SS Supertest (Sangakarra) gloves as they look better than these in my opinion
thanks. Gloves never look good whilst holding a bat in pictures because of the angle where the pics are taken from. But in flesh both the gloves ss super test sangakkara and these look excellent.

Cover Drive

29th September 2010, 23:56

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/122300/122387.jpg

have a look at dhoni's new bat !

JazakALLAH Khair for posting this picture. I wa about to post it as well.

Guys have a look at the grains. People say fewer grains are not good, so why is a professional player holding one of this? Actually owes it.

Goggy

30th September 2010, 10:51

I am assuming you are based in UK. So the cheapest option would be buy a bat from Asad Bhai at uzisports.co.uk. Many people have bought stuff from him and are extremely happy. His service is second to none and is very helpful as well. Plus he is having a sale as well (upto 50%).

Thanks, i am really tempted with the ca plus extreme power, the sf sapphire also looks like a beast. Do you know if they have a store locally you could visit?

Cover Drive

30th September 2010, 14:28

If you want a "beast" bat which has lots of meat then go for CA Extra Power as I have seen it and it is huge bat for its weight.

Hmm I think you can go to Uzi Sports store and check out the bats.

askmoi

30th September 2010, 15:52

askmoi

30th September 2010, 15:56

Thanks Lala. I do have some decent looking kit but am not an expert like askmoi or Uzair(Cover Drive). If you live in the UK I would recommend GM 808 or GN 5 star bat. If you want to buy frm online site I would recommend Ajit frm www.onlinestockist. Ajit has great bats at extremely good prices and he offers excellent customer service and their's not many other sites that can match the services of Ajit. I would recommend you these frm his site Adidas master blaster county bat, SF saphire & SS TON LE.

thanks for the remakrs majid bhai but am not an expert. as for which bat to get, i would def ask u to go for asian bats at that price range. you can get custom made G1 bats.

majid bhai, like the look of the pads. also the bat looks good. could you post more pics of that bat. never used a SF bat but have been generally impressed by the pics

Cover Drive

30th September 2010, 16:10

i always thought players prefer more grains. but the face looks clean with straight grains.

the bat hasn't been pressed at all. the dents r visible. probably gives the best ping but life is def shortened quite a bit. then again, these players get as many bats as they want unlike u n me who have to pay for each one.

Actually they do prefer more grains bat. This could be there net bat whereas in match they could be using a high grainer bat.

I am not sure if I would say it hasn't been pressed at all. In fact, I would say its not knocked. FOr example, the bats we buy are pressed and if we don't knock it and start using it right away dents do appear.

Friend786

30th September 2010, 16:54

http://74.86.155.244/news/stories/2010/sep/29/pvw_20100929_0957_27965.jpg
http://74.86.155.244/news/stories/2010/sep/29/pvw_20100929_0957_27966.jpg
http://74.86.155.244/news/stories/2010/sep/29/pvw_20100929_0958_27967.jpg

new indian jersey !

xkalibur80

30th September 2010, 17:46

too flashy for my liking...I really liked the one they just before this one....teal blue?

Are there any websites that let you design uniforms?

cric_fan82

30th September 2010, 18:52

^^ i also liked the one before better!
and whatz up the shoes these guys are wearing?? UGLYY

ca_gold

30th September 2010, 18:57

too flashy for my liking...I really liked the one they just before this one....teal blue?

Are there any websites that let you design uniforms?

we designed ours at Kukri Sports. The plugin works on PC's only though.

xkalibur80

30th September 2010, 19:24

we designed ours at Kukri Sports. The plugin works on PC's only though.

Yes I tried using their website but didn't get too far....what are your plans for next year? Coming to t&D or what?

Friend786

30th September 2010, 19:35

does nike manufactures cricket bats , balls , helmets , pads , gloves and inner protection stuffs ?

ca_gold

30th September 2010, 20:16

Yes I tried using their website but didn't get too far....what are your plans for next year? Coming to t&D or what?

depends on if a team is for sale or not. we may decide to keep two teams. one in SCA first or premier and then enter another in either EDCL or T&D. How did you guys end up faring?

xkalibur80

30th September 2010, 21:15

depends on if a team is for sale or not. we may decide to keep two teams. one in SCA first or premier and then enter another in either EDCL or T&D. How did you guys end up faring?

Don't buy a team that is up for sale...you will end up paying a lot more than what you should be paying....it is not that hard to get in as the league is adding 7 new teams for 2011.

We are also looking to put another team in if we are able to increase our roster to 30 guys - our intention is to have a competitive and a developmental team - not sure if it will all pan out as the cost to run two team is around $10k!!!

We didn't make the playoffs - it was expected considering most of us hadn't played any competitive cricket in a while.

What about your team?

Cover Drive

30th September 2010, 21:32

depends on if a team is for sale or not. we may decide to keep two teams. one in SCA first or premier and then enter another in either EDCL or T&D. How did you guys end up faring?

That sounds good. i know its not that hard and expensive to get a team in EDCl. I know a guy (actually Hafiz Sab) in EDCL who is secretary so if you need to talk to him let me know, he will make thing easy. He did help us last year in getting a team registered.

xkalibur80

30th September 2010, 21:38

That sounds good. i know its not that hard and expensive to get a team in EDCl. I know a guy (actually Hafiz Sab) in EDCL who is secretary so if you need to talk to him let me know, he will make thing easy. He did help us last year in getting a team registered.

EDCL has nice grounds but all too far for our guys....I would have personally preferred to play in EDCL because of their grounds....much better compared to crappy T&D Grounds.

Cover Drive

30th September 2010, 22:27

EDCL has nice grounds but all too far for our guys....I would have personally preferred to play in EDCL because of their grounds....much better compared to crappy T&D Grounds.

I have never seen any T&D ground nor I have played in T&D because it's too far for me:(.

ca_gold

1st October 2010, 03:09

I have never seen any T&D ground nor I have played in T&D because it's too far for me:(.

yaah thats the only issue. T&D has some nice grounds but at the higher leagues. i've been really impressed with EDCL - even the lower divisions use nice grounds. i played in the morning league this year - really enjoyed it. thanks uzair - i may let you know if i need info. the secretary of the league is also a good friend of mine.

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 03:18

yaah thats the only issue. T&D has some nice grounds but at the higher leagues. i've been really impressed with EDCL - even the lower divisions use nice grounds. i played in the morning league this year - really enjoyed it. thanks uzair - i may let you know if i need info. the secretary of the league is also a good friend of mine.
I remember a while ago I heard someone saying that T&D grounds are better than EDCL. Although I never thought that EDCL grounds would be better but I guess since EDCL has fewer grounds compare to T&D (just a guess) so it isn't that hard for City of Brampton to keep them clean. I have been to one or two grounds outside Brampton and they weren't great either.

Oh so you know who I am talking about? Hafiz Sab from Brampton Battalions?

ca_gold

1st October 2010, 03:43

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 03:47

t&d grounds are better at higher divisions. the sandalwood grounds and dixie/407 grounds in edcl are well kept. the astro turf is new and the grass, though a little hard, is always cut - so the ball rolls. and the lower divisions - t&d is bad.

Ah okay.

I am not sure if you have been to Creditview ones they are quite good as well as Brampton Sports Park ones. Actually one of the Sandalwood ground is my current club home ground. In general I would say most of Brampton grounds are well maintained.

shahzadatr

1st October 2010, 14:58

salam to all:

anybody knows a good cricket shop in Lahore?

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 15:34

salam to all:

anybody knows a good cricket shop in Lahore?

Oreint Sports in Liberty (under Shehzan)
Millat Sports in Sahalme (not sure how to spell it)
Zaidi Sports in Chabourghi
Shahid Sports in Ichara

Hope it helps!

xkalibur80

1st October 2010, 15:35

t&d grounds are better at higher divisions. the sandalwood grounds and dixie/407 grounds in edcl are well kept. the astro turf is new and the grass, though a little hard, is always cut - so the ball rolls. and the lower divisions - t&d is bad.

Yes T&D lower divisions usually get shafted in terms of better grounds....although we were fortunate enough to get Sunnybrook as our home ground this year - not a fantastic ground but better compared to some of the other grounds like Caledonia etc.

ca_gold

1st October 2010, 15:41

Yes T&D lower divisions usually get shafted in terms of better grounds....although we were fortunate enough to get Sunnybrook as our home ground this year - not a fantastic ground but better compared to some of the other grounds like Caledonia etc.

i agree that buying a team is expensive. lower levels in t&d is not the greatest in terms of grounds. Sunneybrook is ok, but not the greatest. Lamroux in Scarbrough is just as good actually.

so that really leaves us with EDCL - though far away, it seems to be the best option given our situation. otherwise, status quo - as in move into premier sca seems best.

this is probably very off topic - lets talk about equipment. what are you getting for next season? how did you enjoy your GT?

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 15:46

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 15:51

Have anyone seen new Mongoose gloves? They look good and I would say they are not let down like bigger brands such as GN, GM etc

Here you go for those who'd be interested in seeing them

ca_gold

1st October 2010, 15:51

xkalibur80

1st October 2010, 15:58

i agree that buying a team is expensive. lower levels in t&d is not the greatest in terms of grounds. Sunneybrook is ok, but not the greatest. Lamroux in Scarbrough is just as good actually.

so that really leaves us with EDCL - though far away, it seems to be the best option given our situation. otherwise, status quo - as in move into premier sca seems best.

this is probably very off topic - lets talk about equipment. what are you getting for next season? how did you enjoy your GT?

GT was amazing - thanks for selling it to me :-)

The best part about that bat was the fact that I didn't even knock it in and I remember you telling me that it will open up more.....anyway, even a defensive push resulted in runs.....my team was drooling over that bat - one thing that I did notice is that you have to be a stroke maker to get the best out of that bat. Sloggers don't seem to have much luck with it.

I may look at adding one more bat to my collection or may be two - don't know which ones yet! Newbery has spoiled me in terms of looking at Pakistani bats - I am going back probably in March/April so will look at bringing back Bubber Sher LE OR CA Extra Power...

The plan is to stop over in England so I will be looking for your expertise to advise as to which places to check out while I am there.

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 15:58

Oh okay I see where you are coming from.

I remember Hafiz Sab team in 5th Division were doing really bad but the league was looking for one or two teams to move to 4th Division so he promoted his team and now they are in Finals.

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 16:02

GT was amazing - thanks for selling it to me :-)

The best part about that bat was the fact that I didn't even knock it in and I remember you telling me that it will open up more.....anyway, even a defensive push resulted in runs.....my team was drooling over that bat - one thing that I did notice is that you have to be a stroke maker to get the best out of that bat. Sloggers don't seem to have much luck with it.

I may look at adding one more bat to my collection or may be two - don't know which ones yet! Newbery has spoiled me in terms of looking at Pakistani bats - I am going back probably in March/April so will look at bringing back Bubber Sher LE OR CA Extra Power...

The plan is to stop over in England so I will be looking for your expertise to advise as to which places to check out while I am there.

I don't it's only me or others but I tend to find English bats to be for stroke making (mostly) whereas Pakistani bats can be used for slogging regardless which one it is.

Try to get an oval handle MB Malik Bubber Sher LE if you consider to buy that bat.

xkalibur80

1st October 2010, 16:03

Isn't it around $2000 to set up a team?

I remember last year when we had new team setup in EDCL we had to give a check when registering which was of $1850 or $1650 (am not precisely sure) but it was cashed by EDCL in March. So isn't it the same for SCA and T&D as well?

It's not the setting up that's costly but all other costs that come with it i.e. balls for the season, umpire fee, uniforms, practices etc.

We just re-did the calculations for 2011 and it is close to $5k by the time it is all said and done..... A lot of teams out there will make a profit from the fees they collect.

Before we entered a team, we used to think that way too i.e. it is only $1500 for the seaon but alas it aint!

xkalibur80

1st October 2010, 16:07

registering a new team is not expensive. but that new team is then in the lowest division. if you want to be in a higer division, the only way you can do it is if you buy a team that is for sale. most teams sell for $3-6000 depending on the league/division.

Not that I am questioning your team but not sure why people care so much about starting in the lowest division? If a team is strong enough, they will move up each year.

I still think that the level of cricket played in T&D is far better than all the leagues out there. For example, our team (which has a lot of inexperienced players) beat a Scarborough premier division team twice in friendlies.

Not saying that Scarborough Premier can be compared to T&D 4th division but I do see a big difference between the caliber of cricket played in the two leagues.

Commonwealth is another good example where their Elite teams suffer big time in T&D 2nd division.

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 16:14

It's not the setting up that's costly but all other costs that come with it i.e. balls for the season, umpire fee, uniforms, practices etc.

We just re-did the calculations for 2011 and it is close to $5k by the time it is all said and done..... A lot of teams out there will make a profit from the fees they collect.

Before we entered a team, we used to think that way too i.e. it is only $1500 for the seaon but alas it aint!

Oh okay it make sense. But if you are making a second team then I don't think uniform cost would be much as you don't have to upgrade your uniforms every year. That's just the way I look at things.

How much does a ball cost?

As far umpire fee goes doesn't every player pay $10 before playing each game?

xkalibur80

1st October 2010, 16:23

Oh okay it make sense. But if you are making a second team then I don't think uniform cost would be much as you don't have to upgrade your uniforms every year. That's just the way I look at things.

How much does a ball cost?

As far umpire fee goes doesn't every player pay $10 before playing each game?

You are right, uniform shouldn't be upgraded each year....we are separating from our higher division team next year, hence, we have a need to do that but from thereafter, we will be good to go.

Kookaburra balls are anywhere between $40-$55 depending on the type

T&D has made it mandatory to have 2 umpires per game as of this year so the cost has gone up there.

You ask a good question about each player paying $10 before the game....we do not have this practice in our club....other clubs charge $300 for the season plus registration fee of $50+ and on top of that players pay per game too.....our players just pay a fee (we charged $200 this year but that will change in 2011) and that took care of everything....obviously we didn't take a few things into account this year that we have to next year, hence, a slight increase in fees

We just want our guys to focus on the game when they show up as opposed to paying etc.

ca_gold

1st October 2010, 17:15

Not that I am questioning your team but not sure why people care so much about starting in the lowest division? If a team is strong enough, they will move up each year.

I still think that the level of cricket played in T&D is far better than all the leagues out there. For example, our team (which has a lot of inexperienced players) beat a Scarborough premier division team twice in friendlies.

Not saying that Scarborough Premier can be compared to T&D 4th division but I do see a big difference between the caliber of cricket played in the two leagues.

Commonwealth is another good example where their Elite teams suffer big time in T&D 2nd division.

i know where your coming from bro. its not the level of competetion im concerend with. It's being shafted in terms of grounds. my number one motivation to move leagues is to move to better grounds. Even if we do start in Div 4 or 5 & say we dont win the championship, we will be stuck there for awhile. Imagine - if we bought a team in the higher divisions - even if we dont win the champioship (but are not last either) we can maintain the status and continue playing on the grounds.

If this was a brand new team - i would enter 4th divison without hesitation. but we've been playing in sca for 5 years now, i dont want to go through another long wait before getting better grounds.....

ca_gold

1st October 2010, 17:20

GT was amazing - thanks for selling it to me :-)

The best part about that bat was the fact that I didn't even knock it in and I remember you telling me that it will open up more.....anyway, even a defensive push resulted in runs.....my team was drooling over that bat - one thing that I did notice is that you have to be a stroke maker to get the best out of that bat. Sloggers don't seem to have much luck with it.

.

i agree absolutely. i had so much faith that my pushes would go for runs that i completely changed my outlook when batting this season. Instead of traditionally looking to go over the top, i loosened my bottom hand and just looked to place deliverys. the middle was brilliant, i picked up singles with ease. In EDCL, i had straight drives and leg glances just ease away for four.

i agree with you that the NB's might not suit sloggers so much - but if the slogger times it well - it will also go :P

and your NB will only get better btw. i wouldnt recommend netting with it though. save it - as you dont want to lose its life in meaningless practice. i've actually got an older kook ice im using as a net bat. The BAS and NB i save for matches (depending on the match situation) :iamlegend

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 17:36

You are right, uniform shouldn't be upgraded each year....we are separating from our higher division team next year, hence, we have a need to do that but from thereafter, we will be good to go.

Kookaburra balls are anywhere between $40-$55 depending on the type

T&D has made it mandatory to have 2 umpires per game as of this year so the cost has gone up there.

You ask a good question about each player paying $10 before the game....we do not have this practice in our club....other clubs charge $300 for the season plus registration fee of $50+ and on top of that players pay per game too.....our players just pay a fee (we charged $200 this year but that will change in 2011) and that took care of everything....obviously we didn't take a few things into account this year that we have to next year, hence, a slight increase in fees

We just want our guys to focus on the game when they show up as opposed to paying etc.

Ah okay.

In my current club if you are a student you pay $150 which includes $50 uniform. And before each gaem you pay $10 which is umpire fee.

shahzadatr

1st October 2010, 18:20

Oreint Sports in Liberty (under Shehzan)
Millat Sports in Sahalme (not sure how to spell it)
Zaidi Sports in Chabourghi
Shahid Sports in Ichara

Hope it helps!

thanks Cover Drive

did you ever been to one of those shop??

Cover Drive

1st October 2010, 19:40

thanks Cover Drive

did you ever been to one of those shop??

No worries!

I have only been to Orient Sports.

Knightrider

1st October 2010, 22:26

thanks for the remakrs majid bhai but am not an expert. as for which bat to get, i would def ask u to go for asian bats at that price range. you can get custom made G1 bats.

majid bhai, like the look of the pads. also the bat looks good. could you post more pics of that bat. never used a SF bat but have been generally impressed by the pics

I rate the SF bat really high. Its an amazing bat. Everything about the bat is just perfect and handle is most amazingly perfectly shaped and feel of the bat is the best. I lightly knocked in the bat & the whole of the bat feels like a sweetspot and pick up is also brilliant for such a big bat. The finish on the bat is the best I've ever seen. Pressing is excellent

Pictures of the SF Saphire bat are on this page
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=82051&page=6

Below is the review I did when i bought the bat.
SF SAPHIRE after using the bat in the nets & outdoor practice. I must say SF SAPHIRE is an unsung hero in the bat makers realm. This bat is awesome.

The appearance of the bat is very nice(classy silver simple chrome graphics). The bat has an immaculate balanced light pickup and solid middle. It has really thick edges & big spine height for relatively light bat. It has a substantial white toeguard and a new style scale grip & it came with a full padded bat cover. The customer service is very very good & I bought it off my frnd Ajit.

Bats made of High Quality Grade 1 English Willow, weights 2lb 11 oz, grains 10 evenly spaced, edges: 35mm, handle is multi-piece cane oval shape handle & absolute best in terms of performance and shock absorbency. The finishing on the bat is the best out of all my bats including some of the English bats I have.

And the rebound is the best & none better I have come across. The final conclusion is that this bats a hidden beauty and a top gun. There aren't too many around. If you can find one, grab it - u wont be disappointment.

SempreSami

1st October 2010, 22:52

Bat sounds good, but your grammar is lacking.

xkalibur80

2nd October 2010, 04:22

i know where your coming from bro. its not the level of competetion im concerend with. It's being shafted in terms of grounds. my number one motivation to move leagues is to move to better grounds. Even if we do start in Div 4 or 5 & say we dont win the championship, we will be stuck there for awhile. Imagine - if we bought a team in the higher divisions - even if we dont win the champioship (but are not last either) we can maintain the status and continue playing on the grounds.

If this was a brand new team - i would enter 4th divison without hesitation. but we've been playing in sca for 5 years now, i dont want to go through another long wait before getting better grounds.....

that's quite a motivation but I see where you are coming from.....grounds wise, EDCL is much better.

So back to the bats, I will give you a shout before I leave.

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 04:27

that's quite a motivation but I see where you are coming from.....grounds wise, EDCL is much better.

So back to the bats, I will give you a shout before I leave.

If you don't mind me asking which bats are you looking to buy in England?

xkalibur80

2nd October 2010, 05:33

If you don't mind me asking which bats are you looking to buy in England?

I want to look at Warsop or Redback....

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 05:52

I want to look at Warsop or Redback....

Not bad choices.

Did you get a chance to see Rehan Bhai's Warsop?

ca_gold

2nd October 2010, 06:38

I want to look at Warsop or Redback....

excellent choices. i havent had any experience with redback, so i cant comment. but warsops are great. the one i had was sold to the opener on my team. he previously used a GM, but he absolutely loves that warsop. sounds really good too. get me one too if you go ;)

xkalibur80

2nd October 2010, 07:12

The problem will be finding a retailer that carries those brands....I don't think they sell their bats in open market and you have to go to their factory/private store.

I could be wrong though.

shahzadatr

2nd October 2010, 09:01

No worries!

I have only been to Orient Sports.

and what is better, buy directy to CA or MB factory or in a good cricket store? in term of prices ?
because i am going to pakistan this winter and i will buy a full kit.

Goggy

2nd October 2010, 10:12

Back to topic guys, has anyone been to or ordered online from apollo sports in pakistan. The prices for the cricket gear seem very tempting...

Poison

2nd October 2010, 10:36

Apollo looks good.

Can someone (CD?) provide a list of Pakistani websites selling cricketing gear here please.

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 14:28

excellent choices. i havent had any experience with redback, so i cant comment. but warsops are great. the one i had was sold to the opener on my team. he previously used a GM, but he absolutely loves that warsop. sounds really good too. get me one too if you go ;)

Yaar I love Redback over Warsop and once before buying Krakatoa I had almost bought RB but what withdrawed my decision was Grays prefferred payment. I have convinced him many times to start using paypal. But he only accepts bank transfer.

The problem will be finding a retailer that carries those brands....I don't think they sell their bats in open market and you have to go to their factory/private store.

I could be wrong though.

Just go to Warsop store in Essex as they will have loads of variety to choose from.

and what is better, buy directy to CA or MB factory or in a good cricket store? in term of prices ?
because i am going to pakistan this winter and i will buy a full kit.

Best bet would be to go Sailkot at visit factory yourself and choose the bat that feels best in your hands. So if you can go Sailkot then go there as there prices would be best in the market. If you cant go then they could perhaps ship stuff to you in Lahore.

hope it helps! Letme know if you hav anymore questions.

Back to topic guys, has anyone been to or ordered online from apollo sports in pakistan. The prices for the cricket gear seem very tempting...

Apollo looks good.

Can someone (CD?) provide a list of Pakistani websites selling cricketing gear here please.

Uhmm I don't know many Pakistani retainers to be honest :(. However, I know two and they are really good, one; Armie from batsandmore.col and Bhasarat from Sailkot Shop (google it and you'll find it). I have never seen or have been to Apollos website

Sorry I wasn't that helpful but if you tell me what exactly you are looking to buy then list it as I might be able to help you.

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 14:29

By the way, Omair and Rehan Bhai M&H doesn't interest you guys? They a have sale going on where you get a bat for £185 and since we are outside UK they can probably knock off VAT for us :).

askmoi

2nd October 2010, 15:01

nice bat majid bhai. thanks for the review. i will have a look at SF or SM for my next bat, as i have never tried these b4

Poison

2nd October 2010, 15:18

Apollo Sports selling the CA Inzi 329 for the equivalent of about $80 (inclusive of shipping). I'm putting in an order tomorow, will let you know how it goes.

ca_gold

2nd October 2010, 16:04

By the way, Omair and Rehan Bhai M&H doesn't interest you guys? They a have sale going on where you get a bat for £185 and since we are outside UK they can probably knock off VAT for us :).

they are nice for sure. i just dont think any of the profiles really suit me. i like the harlequin best, but that was originally designed by james laver. and the next bat will be from him i think.

but there softs look really good. and im sure the bats are high class.

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 16:16

they are nice for sure. i just dont think any of the profiles really suit me. i like the harlequin best, but that was originally designed by james laver. and the next bat will be from him i think.

but there softs look really good. and im sure the bats are high class.

Oh really? I neve knew James was involved in M&H. I always Julian was in it before leaving and making his own brand. Nevertheless, Harlequin seems to have really good profiles whereas I also like Distinction which use oversized clefts.

Personally have never been a fan of L&W hut as I see more I am getting tempted. I rate Screaming Cat very high and find them to be better than L&W.

Oh yeah I know you love Distinction pads and gloves. They are on sale as well. Remember when I last inquired about pads and gloves they came upto £180 including shipping to Canada. Today I did drop another email to M&H, Redback and Warsop.

Knightrider

2nd October 2010, 16:18

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/gmrsbpadskit2.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/gmrsbpadskit3.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/gmrsbpadskit4.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/gmrsbpadskit5.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/Image020555.jpg
Few pictures of my GM rsb pads and SS super test LE gloves.

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 16:34

These SS gloves look better than the 09 ones.

Knightrider

2nd October 2010, 16:36

nice bat majid bhai. thanks for the review. i will have a look at SF or SM for my next bat, as i have never tried these b4
No worries bhai. Have you heard about these SM Limited Edition bats? I heard these are same quality bats given to SM sponsored players.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/SMLEBATS2.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/SMLEBATS3.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb312/majid100no/SMLEBATS4.jpg

askmoi

2nd October 2010, 16:42

wow. both the bats look good. monstro is huge. what would be the prices of these? and weights?

Goggy

2nd October 2010, 16:47

Apollo Sports selling the CA Inzi 329 for the equivalent of about $80 (inclusive of shipping). I'm putting in an order tomorow, will let you know how it goes.

The CA extra power is the equivelant of £67 and Plus 10000 is £84. My order is made.

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 16:51

The CA extra power is the equivelant of £67 and Plus 10000 is £84. My order is made.

Sounds very fake...

Knightrider

2nd October 2010, 17:08

wow. both the bats look good. monstro is huge. what would be the prices of these? and weights?
I think these bats are around 2.8/2.9 and I'm not sure about the prices.

Ali Raja

2nd October 2010, 17:19

Sounds very fake...

What makes you think so?

But if something looks too good to be true, then it probably is.

Be aware!:butt

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 17:27

What makes you think so?

But if something looks too good to be true, then it probably is.

Be aware!:butt

Price is lower than what CA sells it for.

Ali Raja

2nd October 2010, 17:33

Price is lower than what CA sells it for.

Hmm do you mean the CA factory?:butt

Cover Drive

2nd October 2010, 17:59

Hmm do you mean the CA factory?:butt

Yes.

ca_gold

2nd October 2010, 19:19

Oh really? I neve knew James was involved in M&H. I always Julian was in it before leaving and making his own brand. Nevertheless, Harlequin seems to have really good profiles whereas I also like Distinction which use oversized clefts.

Personally have never been a fan of L&W hut as I see more I am getting tempted. I rate Screaming Cat very high and find them to be better than L&W.

Oh yeah I know you love Distinction pads and gloves. They are on sale as well. Remember when I last inquired about pads and gloves they came upto £180 including shipping to Canada. Today I did drop another email to M&H, Redback and Warsop.

http://www.laverwood.co.nz/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=393

see the link.

Knightrider

3rd October 2010, 12:53

The CA extra power is the equivelant of £67 and Plus 10000 is £84. My order is made.
How much was the shipping for 2 bats?

askmoi

3rd October 2010, 13:43

I think these bats are around 2.8/2.9 and I'm not sure about the prices.

where did u see the pics then? is it possible for you to find out the prices?? would really appreciate it.

Knightrider

3rd October 2010, 14:00

where did u see the pics then? is it possible for you to find out the prices?? would really appreciate it.
I got the pictures from www.onlinestockist.com facebook profile. I reckon the price will be around £160-170. I'll fone Ajit Bhai to ask about the price and more info on these bats.

Knightrider

3rd October 2010, 14:05

Bats are also available to order directly thru sm cricket site. http://www.smcricket.com/tailor-made-bat.htm

Poison

3rd October 2010, 14:33

CoverDrive please forward me Armie's email; I wish to purchase a G200 to replace my Ihsan which ran its last race today at the nets and snapped in two :(

Knightrider

3rd October 2010, 14:38

best to call him here is his numer 00923345335749

Cover Drive

3rd October 2010, 14:45

CoverDrive please forward me Armie's email; I wish to purchase a G200 to replace my Ihsan which ran its last race today at the nets and snapped in two :(

Here you go mate;

armughan001@yahoo.com; armughanaltaf@hotmail.com

Poison

3rd October 2010, 14:47

best to call him here is his numer 00923345335749

I do not have unlimited money for international calls :ajmal & thanks CD, will contact him soon.

Poison

3rd October 2010, 14:51

Thanks for your mail CD, for some reason the server is not letting me email you back.

Paradox

3rd October 2010, 14:52

Played around and had a few hits with a friend's Mongoose bat today (the MMi3 - custom made), it's just an extraordinary object. The ping off the bat is out of this world and it's just the best thing if you're looking to hit maximums from ball one, but I found it quite hard to defend/keep quiet the good-length deliveries that are harder to hit to the boundary. Massive edges too. I think it was around 2'8 or 2'9?

Overall, I would say it's pretty much worth the few hundreds of pounds you pay for the bat, but it's not really the bat you want to get if you're more of a nudger/pusher/strokemaker and like to play classical ground strokes more, but otherwise - go for it! I might get one myself for my birthday, who knows :D

Cover Drive

3rd October 2010, 15:17

Poison

3rd October 2010, 15:25

Was just gonna say thanks for the advice Uzair bhai, will use it. :afridi

Cover Drive

3rd October 2010, 15:40

Ah no worries mate. Good luck with your selection.

Paradox

3rd October 2010, 15:44

Uzair, what's the latest addition to your kit? And what are you planning to add next? I recently got myself new inner gloves.

Cover Drive

3rd October 2010, 16:02

cricket_fan1

4th October 2010, 02:52

The CA extra power is the equivelant of £67 and Plus 10000 is £84. My order is made.

Brother these original bats are not possible in your mentioned prices.

askmoi

4th October 2010, 14:17

i personally felt the mongoose mmi to be bottom heavy in the pick up. not to my liking but yeah plenty of wood thru the entire length.

as for the shorter bats, have heard good things about the black cat joker but didnt have the chance to pick one up.

askmoi

4th October 2010, 14:18

Not much its just;

Custom Made MB Malik Bubber Sher Limited Edition Bat
MB Malik Bubber Sher Gloves
MB Malik Bubber Sher Pads
MB Malik 'Double Decker' bag
and MB Malik Thigh pad and elbow guard.

InshALLAH I am planning to get an English bat by December (if everything goes well) along a pair of gloves.

should be a good time to buy as there will be lots of discounts during the off season on 2010 range. plus companies will be looking to push 2011 stuff

askmoi

4th October 2010, 14:20

I got the pictures from www.onlinestockist.com facebook profile. I reckon the price will be around £160-170. I'll fone Ajit Bhai to ask about the price and more info on these bats.

thanks for the info. love the look of these bats and very attractive at that price. is it possible to get a discount if i go thru you?

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 14:32

In Pakistan you don't get discount on equipments towards the end of the season.

I agree Joker is a very good bat and brands who have made bats similar to Joker are no where near Joker. But again COR3 is very good bat for T20 as well

cricket_fan1

4th October 2010, 17:28

ihsan bukwas bat ... its 2.9 lol.. they don't make Boom Boom bats, I have seen Boom Boom bats they are about 2.7 and different shape but unfortunately Boom Boom bats are bloody expensive 225 pound available at globesports.net

100% is correct that present boom boom bats are made by Ihsan

Poison

4th October 2010, 17:30

I have (had) a Ihsan Inferno 350. Snapped from the handle/splice after minimal usage. I WANT WARRANTY!

askmoi

4th October 2010, 17:37

i thought you said you were going to get an english bat. so i was referring to that.

havent seen or tried a COR3 as of yet but have heard its better than the mmi3

Koenigsegg

4th October 2010, 17:54

So, i recently purchased the ihsan inferno 950 cricket bat (yes, the same one that chris gayle uses).

LOL you wish!
Chris Gayle's bat are custom made by Laver n Wood NZ. John is a personal friend of Chris who has been a frequent visitor to L&W workshop. There are photographic proves that Chris is using an L&W (stickered up as Inferno)
But u love the bat, and that's ALL what matters. If the stickers make u happy, all good, if not, there shouldn't be any effect in the performance of the bat.

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 17:57

i thought you said you were going to get an english bat. so i was referring to that.

havent seen or tried a COR3 as of yet but have heard its better than the mmi3

Oh my bad. My brain wasn't functioning properly at that time lol. In that sense you are right.

I haven't tried either but both looks great and wish to own each :).

RehanG

4th October 2010, 17:57

yuck... why do you buy IHSAN!?

get an good CA, or GM or GN

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 17:59

LOL you wish!
Chris Gayle's bat are custom made by Laver n Wood NZ. John is a personal friend of Chris who has been a frequent visitor to L&W workshop. There are photographic proves that Chris is using an L&W (stickered up as Inferno)
But u love the bat, and that's ALL what matters. If the stickers make u happy, all good, if not, there shouldn't be any effect in the performance of the bat.

Pictures would be great if you can post them here or in this thread;

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?p=3015574&posted=1#post3015574

Gayle's bat is massive. I have heard its more than 3 lb and he till manages to hit with one hand.

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 17:59

yuck... why do you buy IHSAN!?

get an good CA, or GM or GN

Ihsan was always the best Pakistani brand until CA dominated.

ca_gold

4th October 2010, 18:01

CD - you liked the thruxton mate?

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 18:36

CD - you liked the thruxton mate?

Ofcourse mate! MashALLAH it a really good bat. Honestly, I dont have words to explain how good the stick is. Everything is perfect, grains, profile etc. To me it seems to have best Newbery profile and is ALOT better than Krakatoa. By taking stickers off the edges and bat it look even better.

I hope you score tons of runs with it!

Here are the pictures of the bat

xkalibur80

4th October 2010, 18:56

CD - you purchased a Thruxton as well?

princess_10

4th October 2010, 19:05

I have an ihsan one, mb malik, miandad, slazenger (the one collingwood uses) and two that i got custom made and i must say the one i found best by far was the slazenger one its really reasonable weight and really gets the ball going :)

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 19:13

CD - you purchased a Thruxton as well?

I wish!

It is Rehan Bhai's :).

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 19:14

Poison

4th October 2010, 20:12

How do you guys (if you do) clean the front of your bats (with the sleeve of course)

ca_gold

4th October 2010, 20:39

i dont clean the face at all. when we used to play with red balls - i used to like that look. however, i've heard guys clean it with just a little bit of nailpolish....though i wouldnt do it.

Poison

4th October 2010, 20:52

i dont clean the face at all. when we used to play with red balls - i used to like that look. however, i've heard guys clean it with just a little bit of nailpolish....though i wouldnt do it.

Played with my bat on the weekend and it started raining and now have dirt marks all on the face cause of the wet/dirty ball. :amin

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 21:18

Do you have a scuff sheet on the face, though?

princess_10

4th October 2010, 21:22

Are you a girl?

Again you can not have the one Collingwood use but you can have same model as him

Yes i am girl lol .. Yeah sorry bro i meant the same model :)

xkalibur80

4th October 2010, 21:36

Are you a girl?

Again you can not have the one Collingwood use but you can have same model as him

Her name kind of gave it away didn't it? LoL

Not a big fan of Ihsan - not sure why....I like my CAs

Poison

4th October 2010, 21:39

Yes of course I don't want to wash the actual blade :inti

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 21:51

Majid Bhai, cleans his bat and he told me that he uses a chemical and nailpolish remover.

If marks don't disappear then simply use gasoline :))

Cover Drive

4th October 2010, 22:06

Her name kind of gave it away didn't it? LoL

Not a big fan of Ihsan - not sure why....I like my CAs

It did but when she listed so many bats I had second thought.

I never liked Ihsan either but after holding few in my hand they were quite good although I wouldn't say better than CA.

SempreSami

4th October 2010, 22:08

Nail polish remover works.

02thoeva

5th October 2010, 18:02

LOL you wish!
Chris Gayle's bat are custom made by Laver n Wood NZ. John is a personal friend of Chris who has been a frequent visitor to L&W workshop. There are photographic proves that Chris is using an L&W (stickered up as Inferno)
But u love the bat, and that's ALL what matters. If the stickers make u happy, all good, if not, there shouldn't be any effect in the performance of the bat.
Who's John?

Chris Gayle uses a horrible lump with 2" longer blade and weighs about 3lb 2!

Cover Drive

5th October 2010, 18:12

i thought you said you were going to get an english bat. so i was referring to that.

havent seen or tried a COR3 as of yet but have heard its better than the mmi3

Did you know that Cor3 is splice-less? If I am correct it is first T20 bat which is spiceless.

CA, AS, and MB to name few has copied MMi3 design but they can't get a splice less handle.

Ali Raja

5th October 2010, 19:04

What happened to the guys who were gonna order from Apollo Sports?:jm

Cover Drive

5th October 2010, 19:22

Goggy has already placed his order.

Are you planning to place one as well?

Ali Raja

5th October 2010, 19:24

Goggy has already placed his order.

Are you planning to place one as well?

No, it seems a bit risky.:afridi

We have to wait and see Goggy's bats and how they are.

xkalibur80

5th October 2010, 19:38

Goggy has already placed his order.

Are you planning to place one as well?

No, it seems a bit risky.:afridi

We have to wait and see Goggy's bats and how they are.

Their prices are actually realistic if you are living in Pakistan.....I am not sure where Goggy lives but if he is in Pak, then he should be ok.

I emailed them as well to inquire about sending uniforms to Canada and they do ship overseas.

Their methods of payment turned me off though - for us WU is the only option!

Ali Raja

5th October 2010, 19:54

Yeah, I know prices are realistic and their website also looks professional enough. But you never know...

Cover Drive

5th October 2010, 19:55

xkalibur80

5th October 2010, 20:03

Goggy is in UK I believe.

I have been to Apollo Sports DHA branch and have seen their bats and they were genuine and authentic. So now I am somewhat convinced after seeing there website. Earlier I hadn't seen it.

What's their preferred payment option?

I know few guys who do can do uniforms in Pakistan. If you are interested then let me know.

Please let me know...I am speaking to one guy right now in Sialkot but looking for reliable options.

do you mind emailing me the info ohussain@sympatico.ca?

Thanking you in advance!

Ali Raja

5th October 2010, 20:05

My team also needs new kits for next season. Cover Drive, can you tell me about any professional kit suppliers in Pakistan? Someone that are not like Boom Boom:afridi

Knightrider

5th October 2010, 23:46

thanks for the info. love the look of these bats and very attractive at that price. is it possible to get a discount if i go thru you?
Mere thru kaise? am not the seller. Btw I'm about to buy a SS bat frm Ajit so I'll phone him in the morning and ask abt the SM bats your interested in. Also you can get in touch with him, his email is on his site.

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Knightrider

5th October 2010, 23:51

LOL you wish!
Chris Gayle's bat are custom made by Laver n Wood NZ. John is a personal friend of Chris who has been a frequent visitor to L&W workshop. There are photographic proves that Chris is using an L&W (stickered up as Inferno)
But u love the bat, and that's ALL what matters. If the stickers make u happy, all good, if not, there shouldn't be any effect in the performance of the bat.
Do u have any proof that Gayle is using a L&W bat with Ihsan Stickers? Chis Gayle loves Pakistani bats and when he was sponsored by Reebok. He used CA bats with Rbk stickers, you can see pictures on cricinfo his bats had CA stamped on the sides. I also believe he uses Genuine Ihsan bats.