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Ali888
1st September 2009, 14:25
http://cricketnext.in.com/news/first-1015-overs-will-be-vital-in-ct-malik/43641-13.html

Blitz
1st September 2009, 14:26
Amazing insight........

Someone is missing the spotlight.

kingusama92
1st September 2009, 14:28
I think we have the bowlers to take care of the first 10-15 overs. Mohammad Asif and Umar Gul/Aamer will take care of that department hopefully.

As for the openers facing the new ball, Imran Nazir could really take that new ball out of the equation with his hitting ability, same goes for Kamran Akmal.

Guenon123
1st September 2009, 14:33
I think we have the bowlers to take care of the first 10-15 overs. Mohammad Asif and Umar Gul/Aamer will take care of that department hopefully.

As for the openers facing the new ball, Imran Nazir could really take that new ball out of the equation with his hitting ability, same goes for Kamran Akmal.

But the problem is that will our batsmen and bowlers perform? Bowlers may well perform but I have serious doubts abt our batting.

kingusama92
1st September 2009, 14:35
But the problem is that will our batsmen and bowlers perform? Bowlers may well perform but I have serious doubts abt our batting.

There isn't a single tournament where our batting does not give us doubts about our chances to do something significant.

We will have to pull together and the Younis Khan- MoYo partnership will have to flourish if we want to win this tourney.

I don't expect our openers to give us good starts but they may surprise us.

dani2k
1st September 2009, 14:39
Really? Thanks for the insight Malik saab! It was a real eye opener :)))

BD-fan
1st September 2009, 14:50
Really? Thanks for the insight Malik saab! It was a real eye opener :)))
I bet you didn't read the article which was published by "Press Trust Of India".

1st, why do they even want to interview S Malik? What interest do they have learning what he thinks? Trying to get something and create a problem in the team?

2nd, since you didn't read the article... these are direct quotes. What is so funny...

"The pitches at the Wanderers and Centurion, where the matches are going to be held, usually help the pace bowlers seam the ball around and there is extra bounce also,"

"So basically it boils down to the fact how a team copes with the first 10 to 15 overs. After that it is a process of cementing your position in the match,"

"We don't need to worry at all. We have quality players in every department and If we can cope with the first 10 to 15 overs properly, there is no reason we cannot go all the way,"

"Winning the Twenty20 World Cup was a big boost for us and Pakistan cricket. I think everyone knows what it would mean for Pakistan cricket if we can add the Champions Trophy to our cabinet as well,"

"As a senior player I know how important the Champions Trophy is for us. I am always there for the team whether I am captain or just a senior member of the side,"

cricketpassion
1st September 2009, 15:38
Really? Thanks for the insight Malik saab! It was a real eye opener :)))

By reading this interview I didnt find anything funny :13:

*sallu*
1st September 2009, 15:40
Hope he doesn't open else he himself will be the one who ruins it for us in the early overs by wasting balls then getting out.

dani2k
1st September 2009, 15:43
@@ BD-Fan and CricketPassion - Mates...Forget about the pitch or the venue or anything else. Don't you know that in ANY ODI the first 10-15 overs are crucial ? Do you need me to tell you "a great start is extremely crucial" or "we need to minimize the dot balls". Isnt that the basic concept of limited overs cricket?

So what do you think about "First 10-15 overs vital in CT" ? Is it not the case in any ODI?

And what value add has Malik bhai given to us except stating the obvious?

Extreme Pace
1st September 2009, 15:48
^^ I guess what he means is in seam/swing condition the first 10-15 overs are of much more importance then on a flat deck as you can pretty much lose it during that time period. Its particularly true for Pakistan, we can easily end up being 5/50 after 15 overs.

dani2k
1st September 2009, 15:54
^^Well, he didnt explicity refer to what you are talking about. But let us give him the benefit of the doubt - he is a distinguished international player and an ex-captain who deserves that the least..

Extreme Pace
1st September 2009, 15:56
And that's all he deserves, hopefully doesn't find a place in the playing XI

dani2k
1st September 2009, 16:00
^^ :13: Hmm..That is a bit harsh! I have seen him fight it out (most of the times). And you need his expertise especially against us.His average against India is good isnt it?

Mohsin
1st September 2009, 16:04
Why do some people just hate Malik so much?!

He's one of our best ODI/T20 batsmen.

Extreme Pace
1st September 2009, 16:08
He's horribly out of form, the main thing is that he's a number 11 a pure bowler who started coming up the order in Inetrnational matches ( not even domestic ! ) and his bowling form and confidence translated into good batting. But once he gave up his bowling and tried to become a pure batsman he has faltered, he just doesn't have the core technique to be a batsman. He needs to regain his bowling form to bat. They are correlated and to do that he needs to go back.

Nazir_ Rules
1st September 2009, 16:16
Guy's Malik is a good player and have you recently seen the stats on him in south africa? It clearly stats that malik is the highest run getter, so stop calling him a bad player.

fahimszd
1st September 2009, 16:29
What I believe is that our bowling department is good, what worries me is the gamble of Imran Nazir at the top.

ahmed16
1st September 2009, 18:05
Particularly true for Pakistan Mr Malik.

Luton Bad Boy
2nd September 2009, 04:00
Wow great observation Sherlock...

IAJ
2nd September 2009, 06:16
^^ :13: Hmm..That is a bit harsh! I have seen him fight it out (most of the times). And you need his expertise especially against us.His average against India is good isnt it?

Yo dani boy, it's not only his average that is good against India, I think many other players in Pak line up for CT have good averages against you!

Will you be kind and do a research on that for us?

Keith
2nd September 2009, 06:25
And then I go and do this: The 1st 10 -15 overs in SA conditions is not the be all and end all for ODI's. You can easily recover from a poor start (wickets down or tight start) depending on your middle to lower order batters. It has been shown, on many occassions, that teams can score heavily in the middle to late overs of a game. The bounce is good and true and will not change significantly through the course of an ODI.

Kriketer
2nd September 2009, 10:44
And then I go and do this: The 1st 10 -15 overs in SA conditions is not the be all and end all for ODI's. You can easily recover from a poor start (wickets down or tight start) depending on your middle to lower order batters. It has been shown, on many occassions, that teams can score heavily in the middle to late overs of a game. The bounce is good and true and will not change significantly through the course of an ODI.

sadly for us early bounce and little swing of the ball is enough to pack the whole team in 15 overs :malik

DHONI183
2nd September 2009, 11:20
And look, I thought otherwise:O!!!

Sultan Yusuf
2nd September 2009, 22:39
Wow great observation Sherlock...

I'll award malik a gold star for that - perhaps he thinks someone in the pcb will hear of this socrates-esque brilliance and cement his place for the next 5 years - maybe a possible captaincy stint for such foresight!