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Super Sachin
6th September 2009, 13:23
Tuesday will see the start of the Compaq Cup, a Tri Series held in Sri Lanka, between themselves, India and New Zealand. It is a 50 over tournament which will provide these teams a great build up to the ICC Champions Trophy. In this post I will do a preview to the series, followed by a schedule. The tournament lasts from September 8th to the Final on September 14th.

Sri Lanka

Despite great success in the test format recently, Sri Lanka have hit a little rock by losing both T20 games to New Zealand, with the middle order crumbling in the first game, and the top 3 failing in the second game. It goes without saying they need to get their act together, but it will come as some comfort they took the ODI series Vs Pakistan by 3 games to 2, winning that series after the first 3 games. Sanath Jayasuriya is in a low patch at the moment, something which will cause concern to Kumar Sangakkara, despite Sangakkara continuing to back him. Tillakaratne Dilshan is riding high despite failing in the last game, his form in the last few months has been stunning in all formats. Mahela Jayawardene had a good outing in the last game and some good success in the test series, the same goes for captain and wicket keeper Kumar Sangakkara who scored 69.

in the last match as well as holding the number 1 spot in the test rankings. Young gun Chamara Kapugedara has been about a while now and has played some sensible innings, with a match winner in the ODI series against Pakistan just recently. Number one ODI bowler Nuwan Kulasekara will be raring to go aswell. Angelo Mathews has a great chance to really show his worth in this series, and pressure will be on Ajantha Mendis to gain some consistency. Spin king Muttiah Muralidaran should return after his groin injury, and no doubt he will be a key factor in this series along with Lasith Malinga. Thilan Thushara provides more strength for the bowling, along with T20 World Cup player Isuru Udana, and attacking batsman Mahela Udawatte has also made the squad.

I rate their chances once again this series, I can already see them in the final, despite losses in the T20. Hopefully for them Murali will be back, for each team I will pick 3 Key Players and for Sri Lanka I am going with Jayasuriya, Muralidaran, and Dilshan, whose form is brilliant.

India

India are back in to international scene for the first time after their short ODi series against West Indies in June and July, a series they took 2 - 1. Rahul Dravi has been called back in to the side, looking to provide solidarity in the middle order, something they have been lacking with susceptibility against the short ball, something West Indies uncovered in a crunch game of the T20 World Cup. Virender Sehwag has been ruled out after sustaining a shoulder injury for the Delhi Daredevils in the Indian Premier League. The little man is back though, Sachin Tendulkar has not played ODI cricket for a while now and will be determined to prove he still has what it takes, he will open with Gautam Gambhir who will be determined to do well. Captain, keeper, and number 1 batsman MS Dhoni will lead the side once again, he led Air India Blue to a victory recently in the BCCI Corporate Trophy, an Indian domestic tournament, with a 61 ball, 106. Yuvraj Singh is a key man in this series, and he will look to display his flair and power, he was in great nick in India’s last ODI series. Harbhajan Singh will lead the spin bowling attack, no doubt he will be key in the middle overs, there’s a match winner in himself, India’s second option for spin is Delhi Daredevil Amit Mishra, Dinesh Karthik has another chance, and Praveen Kumar will be in good company with the quickies, with Ishant Sharma, RP Singh, and Ashish Nehra all in the squad. For IPL success Abhishek Nayar, this series, and the Champions Trophy are key for his career, one feels. Brother of Irfan, Yusuf Pathan, is making a habit of getting in the Indian side now, and India will welcome the return of Suresh Raina after a finger injury.

India have a lot to prove in this series, they have the potential to be the dominant ODI force but the short ball has lately caused some big problems for them. With no Virender Sehwag at the top of the order, pressure is on Gambhir and Tendulkar. Yuvraj, and Dhoni will be key in the middle order to keep the rate ticking along. The quick bowlers attack is very potent but all 4 playing is unliikely, so it will be interesting to see who misses out. I expect them in the final against Sri Lanka, and I believe, Yuvraj, Tendulkar and Harbhajan are key to success.

New Zealand

Buoyed by success in the T20’s, New Zealand and Dan Vettori finally have something to smile about, despite shocking form in the test series. Daryl Tuffey is not back in the ODI series, but Shane Bond is and will most definitely be raring to go. Brendon McCullum and Jesse Ryder will once again be vital to a Kiwi success, when they both clicked in the T20, New Zealand went on to win comfortably. The reason they are vital is no doubt their big hitting and quick scoring, they make use of the powerplays, something all these 3 teams do, unlike say an England who progressively build on an innings, both techniques can work, but powerplay scoring is very effective. Neil Broom and Grant Elliott will be vying for number 6 spot most likely, and if McCullum declines the gloves, Gareth Hopkins will fill in at 7. 22 year old Martin Guptill is looking to further cement his place at 3, and Ross Taylor, who hit 60 in a T20, happy to stay at 4, big Jake Oram needs a match winning innings soon I feel and at 5, he’s in a great place to provide it. On to the bowlers and the happier Dan Vettori is a vital key to success, with his consistent outstanding performances and stingy economy rates, no Iain O’Brien or Chris Martin in this series, they just played the tests, their spots will no doubtly be filled by Kyle Mills at 9, and a man looking to make an impact on his return Shane Bond. Brendon’s bro Nathan McCullum will be challenging Jeetan Patel for the 2nd spinners spot, and with quickie Ian Butler also lurking around, there should be good competition for the bowling spots.

Although their recent success against Sri Lanka in the T20’s, I am still going against them, I feel they will just miss out on the final, but not by much, and I have a feeling I could well be wrong, and in a way I hope I am, because I feel this could be a very competitive series. Their key players for me are definitely Shane Bond, Dan Vettori, and the 2 openers to get them off to a flier. ( Yes I know I picked 4, they have many key players, that all need to perform.
The Way I See It.

I see India just pipping Sri Lanka in this series, but I think all games should be close, and on their day either of the teams could win any of their matches. This series could be just what 50 over cricket needs, and I hope we get all that it promises.
Schedule

Match 1 - Sri Lanka V New Zealand - September 8th

Match 2 - India V New Zealand - September 11th

Match 3 - Sri Lanka V India - September 12th

Match 4 - Final - TBA V TBA - September 14th

All games are Day Nighters and played at the R Premadasa Stadium in Colombo.

All games will have a preview and a review , before and after them respectively.

*link removed*

*sallu*
6th September 2009, 14:25
I have a feeling its gonna be a India New Zealand Final

Will be a close call but the Black caps should win it. As bad as their test side is they actually have a decent limited overs line up.

Super Sachin
6th September 2009, 15:37
it could be, teams are well matched

bantu
6th September 2009, 20:02
I would rather india gets a kick in the backside in this series......... so that they perform well in the Championship trophy (rather than the other way around)

TheRazzler
6th September 2009, 21:51
India will most likely win.

aravinda1234
6th September 2009, 23:20
This series is not going to happen because we SL fans currently collecting some explosives to blast this ***k*** Premadasa stadium. :pissed: So unless it's moved to another venue its not going to happen.

Check out the last 10 ODIs played in this ground (All the matches were won by the team who batted first), (http://stats.cricinfo.com/slvnz2009/engine/records/team/match_results.html?class=2;id=1004;type=ground)

Most important thing is we lost the toss on 7 occasions while winning only 2. But definitely this is not an excuse for our poor middle order.

Super Sachin
7th September 2009, 21:11
Every game in this series will be difficult to predict a winner, so forgive me if I get it wrong, at 14:30 Local time, a new cup will be introduced, the Compaq Cup, and in my opinion its one of the best lookers around! Picture (right), and yes it is an LCD screen! You get Australia and England duking it out for a bit of wood, and then you get this beauty come along! Remarkable, anyway, enough about my love of the cup, and onto some serious business.

Both teams are very evenly matched, after whitewashes in both formats played so far, who will come out the winner in this one? And to add some spice to it, we have India thrown into the mix aswell. We’re in for a firecracker of a series, and I am expecting hi - scores.

Sri Lanka
To put it bluntly, if Sri Lanka want to bat well tomorrow, Sanath Jayasuriya needs to perform, his last big performance was back against the West Indies in June, he’s one of those players you can’t drop though, because he is always due a big score. In fact in the past 2 years he has averaged just 2 below his career average, and a higher strike rate. If he performs, Sri Lanka are in the pound seats. The Romesh Kaluwitharania of 2009 in Tillakaratne Dilshan will open with him, his form has been impeccable of late, and with his new, crafty “dil scoop”, runs are guaranteed if he connects well. Kumar Sangakkara will keep tomorrow, as Prasanna Jayawardene is not in the side. The other Jayawardene, Mahela, will be looking to go big tommorow, with some handy form of late. Chamara Kapugedara is at 5, and I am glad to see Gihan Rupasinghe get his first ODI cap, he looks a superb prospect for Sri Lankan cricket and it is safe to say, he really gives a ball a whack. Angelo Mathews can provide some good support down the order aswell, his bowling is handy aswell,Thilan Thushara will look to go well at 8, Nuwan Kulasekara, the number one ODI bowler is in at 9. He can bat, but his bowling is what Sri Lanka will look for tomorrow, he is a key player, yeh, you guessed him, he’s back, we think, Muttiah Muralitharan is a doubt, but is expected to play at number 10, with “slinga” Malinga rounding off the innings at 11. Lasith Malinga is another very important bowler tomorrow, with great innovations, including toe - crunching yorkers, and deceptive loopy slower balls. No Ajantha Mendis.

Expected XI

1. Sanath Jayasuriya, 2. Tillakaratne Dilshan, 3. Kumar Sangakkara, 4. Mahela Jayawardene, 5. Chamara Kapugedara, 6. Gihan Rupasinghe, 7. Angelo Mathews, 8. Thilan Thushara, 9. Nuwan Kulasekara, 10. Muttiah Muralitharan, 11. Lasith Malinga

New Zealand
New Zealand will be the most confident side going in to this Tri - Series, a victory in the Twenty20 series, to put behind their 5 day misery, Sri Lanka will still be clinging on to their test success, and India haven’t played for 2 months. Current success is so important when it comes to one dayers, as they are played so back to back, if you lose a game, its hard to put behind the disappointment quickly, but coming on a high, you hope to retain that feeling. On to the team news.

No change up the top of the order, with Brendon McCullum and Jesse Ryder kicking off the innings. News on Brendon McCullum, he is expected to take the gloves for tomorrows game, this will provide room for both Neil Broom and Grant Elliott to play, providing important specialist batting depth down the order. McCullum and Ryder had good success in the Twenty20, scoring 40 odd and 50 odd respectively. Martin Guptill looks set at 3, he needs a big innings, hasn’t had much lately in the form of big tasks, and at 3 in an ODI will give him time to bat, interesting to note in his first ODI he smashed a century, bringing it up with a six. Ross Taylor at 4, 60 for him in the first Twenty20, and Jacob Oram at 5, another player without too much to do lately, coming in down what in effect is the lower order in a Twenty20. Grant Elliott and Neil Broom have proved very handy in the past at 6 and 7, Elliott has won games for his side from there, a very cool customer, he finds the gaps, and can also hit them big. Broom is more of a power hitter, and has done his job in the past down the order quite successfully for the Kiwi’s, providing a quickfire 20 or 30 in the last 10 overs, a vital job. Onto the bowling, and evidently the bowling talismans are Dan Vettori for the spinners, and Shnae Bond for the quickies, it is so important they do well tomorrow, Vettori has become an expert tying batsmen down in the middle overs, and Bond has ripped through top quality international batting lineups in the past. Both are match winners. The lower class bowlers you could say, will be Kyle Mills, and a toss up between Nathan McCullum and Jeetan Patel for the 2nd spinner spot.

Expected XI

1. Brendon McCullum, 2. Jesse Ryder, 3. Martin Guptill, 4. Ross Taylor, 5. Jacob Oram, 6. Grant Elliott, 7. Neil Broom, 8. Dan Vettori, 9. Kyle Mills, 10. Shane Bond, 11. Nathan McCullum/Jeetan Patel

All games are day nighters at the Premadasa Stadium in Colombo, so I have one piece of advice for the toss winner, bat, batting under lights in the 2nd innings at the Premadasa has been known to be notoriously tricky, and most of the matches have been won by the team who won the toss, in the last 11 ODIs the toss winner batted, and the result went their way.

But then if results always went statistics way, life would be boring, hoepfully we get a great game for tomorrow, scattered showers are forecast, yet they always are, and check back here tomorrow evening for a review of tommorows match. For the record, I predict a Sri Lankan victory, and a great opening partnership for Sri Lanka. Don’t take my word for it though!

iHammad
8th September 2009, 00:36
I am supporting New Zealand!
go Shane Bond and Kiwis!

http://static.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/107900/107931.jpg

Nazir_ Rules
8th September 2009, 01:28
im supporting new zealand!

akafen
8th September 2009, 03:34
I would push Grant Elliott ahead of Jacob Oram. Elliott is a real good batsman and he bats in a more mature fashion than Oram. Broom a hard hitting batsman who needs some time to adjust. He looks to me a good no 6 at this stage in his career.

Ideally Scott Styris would be in this side. Im surprised he hasnt made the cut. I wud have liked to see him at 5 followed by Elliott, Oram, Mills and Vettori.

ask
8th September 2009, 06:31
I support any team that wins the toss, coz they gonna win anyway!

dblock
8th September 2009, 22:04
This series is not going to happen because we SL fans currently collecting some explosives to blast this ***k*** Premadasa stadium. :pissed: So unless it's moved to another venue its not going to happen.

Check out the last 10 ODIs played in this ground (All the matches were won by the team who batted first), (http://stats.cricinfo.com/slvnz2009/engine/records/team/match_results.html?class=2;id=1004;type=ground)

Most important thing is we lost the toss on 7 occasions while winning only 2. But definitely this is not an excuse for our poor middle order.

So far so good..

Sri Lanka win toss..win match.

iHammad
8th September 2009, 22:37
I am supporting NZ, but I know that somehow India or SL will win

aravinda1234
9th September 2009, 07:33
Indians fans were over the moon when they beat us in the last two ODI series but they need to check out how many times Dhoni have won the toss in those games… same with Pakistan with their last two ODIs.

Even though it looks India dominated us in the last series they lost the last match by a big margin (oh… Dhoni also lost the toss there).

But having said that the only team to change this stats is India because of their strong and experienced middle order. This time they have both Sachin and Dravid where in last two series both of them were not on tour. Interesting to see how they go under lights.

dani2k
10th September 2009, 07:08
With their match aginst NZ tomorrow at the R Premadasa, Team India officially start another hectic international season.

It is been more than two months since they last played an international match. These two months have been hard for me (and I know there will be millions like me) not having to see them play (Regardless of country I think any cricket fan would have felt the same about his/her team at some point...). I never realized how they have become a part of my life and boy am I glad and excited to see them LIVE (one more day to go though :pissed: ) ? YOU BET!

Win or lose it has been such a joy to follow this team and I am slowly beginning to realize why Team India is such a hit as a brand. We don't seem to have enough of them. No wonder the media is so obsessed about this whole bunch trying to bring every nit pick on information about them and the sponsors pay them so much money (anyway that is for another day). ATM I am glad that my beloved team would be back in action soon!

Welcome back Team India! You were missed big time :)

MIG
10th September 2009, 07:15
Steady on !!

Whats your take on their chances in this tournament and CT?

dani2k
10th September 2009, 07:30
^^ They are just coming back after a decent break. Would take some time to get going as a team. After the triseries in SL we might have a clearer picture.

The OZies are doing well in England and will be the clear favorites to go to the CT SFs. Between India and Pakistan, whoever gets going first would be the next favorite for the next slot. India will have a slight advantage there as they would have played atleast two international games by that time (not counting the final if they make it). Not sure if they will have practice matches in SA ( I guess they will) which might be a bonus.

Pak will have two practice matches too. But it is yet to be seen how the intensity would be for practice matches.

So all in all I expect OZ to make the SFs. As an Indian fan I would like to give a 60% chance over Pak to make the next slot.

Random Aussie
10th September 2009, 07:49
Welcome back Team India, RA has missed you so much :D :D

pun500
10th September 2009, 12:48
gambhir injured... kohli his replacement

http://www.cricinfo.com/compaq/content/current/story/424397.html


finally a step in right direction....for a moment i thought the out of form sharma might get a go

indiancricketer
10th September 2009, 12:48
Welcome Back.. you bring happiness to me and millions of others.. Play fair and hard cricket.. wish you all the best

sakss
10th September 2009, 12:50
hope he recovers after the CT

dani2k
10th September 2009, 12:51
Welcome back Team India, RA has missed you so much :D :D

RA..the designated devil incarnate for the Indian team :))

IAJ
10th September 2009, 12:54
welcome back, wish you a losing welcome though :D

IAJ
10th September 2009, 12:58
Kohli to replace injured Gambhir in tri-series


Gautam Gambhir has picked up a groin injury and will miss the Compaq Cup in Sri Lanka after being advised 10 days' rest. He is returning home and will be replaced by Virat Kohli.

MS Dhoni, India's captain, said Gambhir picked up the injury during the recent BCCI Corporate Trophy. "From what I know he picked the injury during the Corporate tourney and aggravated it during a batting session," Dhoni said in Colombo. Gambhir is expected to report at the National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Bangalore for assessment and rehabilitation.

Kohli, currently at the NCA, is likely to join the squad on Friday. He has just recovered from a minor shoulder injury and participated in the Corporate Trophy.

Gambhir's injury means India, who play their first game on Friday, will be without two of their three established openers in Sri Lanka: Virender Sehwag is already out with a shoulder injury and will miss the Champions Trophy too. Gambhir's replacement notwithstanding, Dinesh Karthik, who opened in the ODIs in the West Indies in the absence of Sehwag and Sachin Tendulkar, is in the squad and likely to make the starting XI.

India will desperately want Gambhir back in time for the Champions Trophy, where they play their first match on September 26, against Pakistan in Centurion. They would ideally want at least a week's acclimatisation in South Africa, which means there will be a degree of risk involved should India take Gambhir to the Champions Trophy. It will be a tricky decision because one such choice recently went wrong. Sehwag, who was injured but hoping to recover in time when the squad for World Twenty20 was announced, was along to England but is yet to recover from his shoulder injury.

http://www.cricinfo.com/compaq/content/current/story/424397.html

Another big blow for India.

pun500
10th September 2009, 13:00
repost ...i already have a thread running

IAJ
10th September 2009, 13:02
hope he recovers after the CT

Let him come when ever he wants. Mohammad Aamer and Mohammad Asif will be waiting for him :66:

Poison
10th September 2009, 13:03
With their match aginst NZ tomorrow at the R Premadasa, Team India officially start another hectic international season.

It is been more than two months since they last played an international match.

Phoo'ey thats a long time to not be playing internationals. :inti


/end sarcasm

IAJ
10th September 2009, 13:03
repost ...i already have a thread running

Good for you!

pun500
10th September 2009, 13:04
gambhir is not as important to us as sehwag ... so the impact will be less besides i am not worried about our batting

lets see

tendulkar
dravid
yuvi
dhoni
y pathan
raina
gambhir/kohli

that is as good a lineup as any team can hope to produce

JeeraBlade
10th September 2009, 13:15
^^ They are just coming back after a decent break. Would take some time to get going as a team. After the triseries in SL we might have a clearer picture.


So if they play too much, they get tired (e.g T20 WC 2009), and if they come back from a decent break, they get rusty. So, when do they should be playing and performing? :)

dani2k
10th September 2009, 13:17
I never gave any excuses for their World T20 loss mate. We played poor cricket and deserved to lose :)

dani2k
10th September 2009, 13:18
welcome back, wish you a losing welcome though :D

Et tu? An RA clone? :D

JeeraBlade
10th September 2009, 13:22
I never gave any excuses for their World T20 loss mate. We played poor cricket and deserved to lose :)

25% fans give "tired" excuse, 25% "rusty" excuse, remain 50% give both excuses. So, you belong to the middle group? :D

dani2k
10th September 2009, 13:24
Nope...I didnt give any excuse. You need to take me as an exception :D

pun500
10th September 2009, 13:27
rusty my foot...most of them were playing in the corporate cup for some practice so no excuses if we screw up here...

i believe if we showup and play our game we are a good enough team for both lankans and kiwis

with saf/aus cant say but against these 2 we should win if we play as we have been for the past 2 years

Golden arm
10th September 2009, 13:51
I think if he is not able to play in the champions trophy, then their chances are seriously jeoperdized, because he was the best player of spin in the camp and as we hear, wickets in champions trophy might be slow.

Rizwan25
10th September 2009, 13:55
Great news for pakistan...one less player to think about!

12thMan
10th September 2009, 14:14
It will be nice to see what Kholi does. I like to see new players and have heard his name here

kingusama92
10th September 2009, 15:17
Quite a blow to their ranks. He has been a fantastic opener for them for the past few years. The Gambhir-Sehwag partnership is always one to fear as opening bowlers.

Now they have lost both of them and whoever they put in the two vacant opening slots won't match the skill of these two.

pun500
10th September 2009, 15:25
Quite a blow to their ranks. He has been a fantastic opener for them for the past few years. The Gambhir-Sehwag partnership is always one to fear as opening bowlers.

Now they have lost both of them and whoever they put in the two vacant opening slots won't match the skill of these two.
a little bloke who avgs 44 and has 43 odi hundreds

we have decent batting cover up

i expect the lineup to be

tendulkar
gambhir/kohli/uthappa
raina
dravid
yuvi
dhoni
y pathan
bhajji
ishant
rp/pk/nehra for final 2 slots

we dnt have problems in batting as such esp for the 50 over format 20-20 could have been a prob but with sachin dravid back we have stability

dani2k
10th September 2009, 15:25
Quite a blow to their ranks. He has been a fantastic opener for them for the past few years. The Gambhir-Sehwag partnership is always one to fear as opening bowlers.

Now they have lost both of them and whoever they put in the two vacant opening slots won't match the skill of these two.

Err..No. One can match - a lil fella with 16000+ ODI runs

pun500
10th September 2009, 15:27
^^ :))) posted the same thing ..

dani2k
10th September 2009, 15:29
Yup. Amazing..let us pat our own backs;-)..Great minds think alike :))

adarsh_bang
10th September 2009, 15:31
25% fans give "tired" excuse, 25% "rusty" excuse, remain 50% give both excuses. So, you belong to the middle group? :D

err.. what excuse do pakistani fans give when their team folds to about 100 runs allout ???

LG
10th September 2009, 18:20
^^ All the excuses JB mentioned and more. :D:D

sakss
10th September 2009, 18:27
nz can be good if they sort out their batting....

Wassixpakistani
10th September 2009, 18:34
Yaayyy................A tournament named after my PC ^_^ .


I'm also quite eager to see India perform

Wassixpakistani
10th September 2009, 18:35
^^ All the excuses JB mentioned and more. :D:D


And not to mention " Black Magic "

Golden arm
10th September 2009, 21:28
Welcome Back.. you bring happiness to me and millions of others.. Play fair and hard cricket.. wish you all the best
thats like a true gentleman and sportsman!

Random Aussie
10th September 2009, 23:07
Looking forward to watching the YUVI obliterate the bowling in a match that does not matter and failing when it does....

Indian batting and bowling is a bit weaker than normal...

kingusama92
10th September 2009, 23:10
Err..No. One can match - a lil fella with 16000+ ODI runs

I meant whoever fills into the two spots won't be able to match the partnership of Sehwag and Gambhir.

I know Tendulkar is there but who else will bat with him? Karthik?

Sehwag+Gambhir> Tendulkar+Karthik

umarf76
11th September 2009, 06:57
No real chance in my opinion.

especially dravid past his best at 3.

most dangerous player yuvraj. The other one is Yousuf Pathan but he is unlikely to get a game.

Any thoughts?

IAJ
11th September 2009, 07:05
They still have a decent team. The only thing which can happen now is a lower RR as Sehawg and Gambhir batted with a healthy SR, but the batting will not be affected that much.
On other hand their bowling look very weak without Zaheer khan so they will struggle in that departement.