I stand by YK. Who's with me? [Merged]

[GLORY OF '92]

It's easy to hate YK now but I back him. He will come good and he is the man to lead us in the world cup.

[Eagle Eyes]

I stand by YK.

[Ayyub]

i m wid u brother YK Rocks

[Khurram]

Me Me Me

[insaftak]

YK is a very good captain, but he needs to get his batting fixed, we can't afford to have our #3 averaging 13 runs in his last 10 games

[Mohsin]

Go Younus!

[asifp]

Sorry I dont. HE is a good man but terrible captain.

We could have been in a situation where we could have been all out without using the powerplay.

[chacha kashmiri]

is there any other option

[Kray_jackson7]

He isnt what we want from our captain. he didnt really motivate the team. Dropped a siter. batted poorly. time he had a little rest i think.

[insaftak]

Sorry I dont. HE is a good man but terrible captain.

We could have been in a situation where we could have been all out without using the powerplay.

its on field players to decide to take PP

[ahsan17]

He needs to stop playing ODIs. Be a test match specialist. He is ordinary at best in ODIs, and only once in a bluemoon plays a good innings.

[eViLrAcEr]

:yk ... simply no replacement for him at this stage..he just needs to work a bit on his batting techniques, remember more shots that he can play

as a captain, he is brilliant, better than any captain since probably Wasim Akram (who, btw, won us many tournaments and finalists in WC 99, which is not bad at all)

[CrickFan]

I will decide once you let me know when was the last time Yunis scored a half century against a Top side when it actually mattered . Unfortunately there is no other option ..The vice captain after spending more than a decade in Int Cricket still cannot adapt to the match situation

[IM NOT YOU]

1) 20 off 33 including 5 runs in 5 overs parnership on a 330+ pitch against india that nearly cost us the match = FAIL

2) 18 off 49 against australia = FAIL

3) 15 off 33 on a 270 + track = FAIL

4) average of 24.7 after 16 ODIs in 2009 = FAIL

5) playing himself despite calling himself "unfit" = FAIL

6) using the wrong bowlers agaisnt teh power play = FAIL

7) misuse of batting powerplay (complete and utter neglect of batting powerplay) game after game = FAIL

8) crucial dropped catch in semi final of champions trophy after an average of 17.5 in the tournament including a high score of 20 = FAIL.




sorry. not me.

[P4K1 #1]

I agree... YK will come good.. then when he does good.. everyone will be YK is the man etc.. so have faith in him guys..

[Disco_Lemonade]

i stand with the captain but not the batsman.

[skassoc48]

The difference is in this match is the captain performance. Vettori made 44, took 3 wickets and took his batting power play when 4 down and set batsman. Younis Khan made minimal runs, DROPPED that catch and crucially took his power play when 8 down, after afridi, akmal and yousuf dismessed.

A far more talented team was defeated by a more astute captaincy.

Any yes Vettori was also injured!!!

[Wassixpakistani]

He's the best man to handle this Pak team at the moment . Like hey people , this side was heading towards nowhere before Yk took over and after that Pak has a T20 WC title and had reached the Semi-finals of the CT .

[JAV12341]

no i think your wrong..... i would drop him bring in a new face like ahmed shezad and make afridi the captain thats the way forward way of thinking..... and i also think afridi will always encourage his players to play postive cricket which we didn't seem to do todday.....so i will back afridi to captain us in the 2011 world cup...... :afridi

[WAZ&WAQ]

YK did a pretty good job!

[ahsan17]

1) 20 off 33 including 5 runs in 5 overs parnership on a 330+ pitch against india that nearly cost us the match = FAIL

2) 18 off 49 against australia = FAIL

3) 15 off 33 on a 270 + track = FAIL

4) average of 24.7 after 16 ODIs in 2009 = FAIL

5) playing himself despite calling himself "unfit" = FAIL

6) using the wrong bowlers agaisnt teh power play = FAIL

7) misuse of batting powerplay (complete and utter neglect of batting powerplay) game after game = FAIL

8) crucial dropped catch in semi final of champions trophy after an average of 17.5 in the tournament including a high score of 20 = FAIL.




sorry. not me.


Spot on. An ordinary ODI player, who cost us semi final today with that drop catch. NZ didn't have much batting after that wicket. Make Afridi ODI captain and we need a new young talent instead of him.

[Crucifier]

It's easy to hate YK now but I back him. He will come good and he is the man to lead us in the world cup.

Are you serious? YK did not "LEAD" us in the WC. That was done by Afridi and Gul. YK hasn't produced a meaningful innings in over 20 odd games I reckon so he's time is almost up.

Someon get the scissors, because he's about to be cut.

[mindless slogging]

Sorry I dont. HE is a good man but terrible captain.

We could have been in a situation where we could have been all out without using the powerplay.

YK is our best captain.

The reason you give lies the blame on the shoulder of the batsmen. Agree PPlay should be taken earlier, but if you KNOW it will be taken in the last 5 overs, what you do is to make sure you stay there till that time as a batsman. Clearly, :moyo :malik :naved :afridi :gul all disagree.

We criticise :misbah alot, but maybe he would have stayed in till the PPlay.

[shane]

There is no-one who comes close to being able to replace Younis. He is the best captain Pakistan has had for a long time and he must continue.

[younggunzz786uk]

pakistan fans are a disgrace! he won us the world cup!!!! younis khan is one of the only captains who has united the pakistan team! Well done Younis Khan, we pray you are our captain for a long time yet!

[SohailQureshi]

younus is a average ODI player, i feel he should just stick to test matches because YK always tend to slow the game down and not score at a run a ball.

[Crucifier]

pakistan fans are a disgrace! he won us the world cup!!!! younis khan is one of the only captains who has united the pakistan team! Well done Younis Khan, we pray you are our captain for a long time yet!

What did YK do in the World Cup?

[wiseguy]

im with younis khan no one can lead the team better then him top man!!!! :yk

[GLORY OF '92]

OK so who should replace him?? Don't say afridi-he's not the backstabbing type.

[Boi]

After the T20 World Cup everyone was praising Younis Khan at least 90% of PP Pakistan fans. Now look after a few months people turning against him.
He is the best man for the job and we should stick with him. I am sure he will come good.

[Khabri420]

I agree that YK is the best man for the job, but he needs to start working on his bowling. He has great potential because his batting doesn't look very promising.

[Poison]

There is no-one who comes close to being able to replace Younis. He is the best captain Pakistan has had for a long time and he must continue.

amen.

[khilari]

I stand by him too
One dropped catch is no biggie when he could throw a direct hit to get Gambhir out in a cruuucial encounter

[90MPH]

Im with YK - dropped a sitter, and should have used the batting power play much earlier.

But other than that he has to continue as captain and hopefully the team will improve.

[mindless slogging]

Are you serious? YK did not "LEAD" us in the WC. That was done by Afridi and Gul. YK hasn't produced a meaningful innings in over 20 odd games I reckon so he's time is almost up.

Someon get the scissors, because he's about to be cut.

Who do you want to replace him?

A guy who scored less in the whole tournament than Elliott did in this one innings and has 5 wickets in 4 matches?

Aamer has a higher score in this one innings than Afridi in the tournament. When was the last time Afridi got a ODI 50?

[Gooner]

I will also stand by Younus even if he dropped a dolly of a catch.

We've done pretty well this summer considering what's gone on in Pakistan cricket in the last year or so. Hopefully this deafet will make us stronger as a group.

[Sufian84]

im with you, for now.
ask me again after australia series and i give clear answer.

[pakistani]

im with him so what if he dropped the catch. you can never tell what would happen even if he took the catch. I just hope he gets his form back thats it

[azfar wali]

I still stand by YK

[Kray_jackson7]

Who do you want to replace him?

A guy who scored less in the whole tournament than Elliott did in this one innings and has 5 wickets in 4 matches?

Aamer has a higher score in this one innings than Afridi in the tournament. When was the last time Afridi got a ODI 50?

Who is pakistans leading wicket taker in the last 2 years?

Who won pakistan the world cup single handedly?

who has been shoved so low down the order when he comes in he doesnt have time to get his eye in because we need to accelerate because YK is eating up too many balls?

And who has a 100% captains winning record in all forms?

:afridi

[*sallu*]

I'm standing by him at the moment but for how long, not sure

Been failing for a long time, but just think, hes a class player at the end of the day.

What he needs is to do what Kallis has done. Kallis has been brilliant at adapting to both T20s and ODIs and YK is almost equal in ability. Just needs some work and inshAllah will come back stronger

I would give him the coming couple of series (against Nz and Aus) to make a mark

[tdigi]

No point in blaming YK. Yes he dropped a sitter and may be it was the turning point, but it's all ifs and buts. I admire YK as a cricketer who fights for Pakistan. Lot of people blame the captain for a loss but in all honesty it's a team effort. Yes the leader of the team needs to have the authority and command over his players, and the best captain Pakistan ever had in this department was the great Imran Khan.

I feel YK and his team will improve day by day. Unpredictability factor of Pakistan is still there but I think YK brings some amount of stability in the side.

Don't be fooled by the smile, he is a tough guy and a gentleman. My congrats to the team for reaching the semi finals.

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

as a captain hes the guy as an ODI bat no !

[mindless slogging]

Who is pakistans leading wicket taker in the last 2 years?

Who won pakistan the world cup single handedly?

who has been shoved so low down the order when he comes in he doesnt have time to get his eye in because we need to accelerate because YK is eating up too many balls?

And who has a 100% captains winning record in all forms?

:afridi

Who lost Pakistan this semi-final single-handedly. :slaps forehead

And aren't you the one that thinks Afridi is better than Ponting?

Go on. Justify Afridi's performance today. I bet Ponting would have performed. When was the last time he got an ODI fifty? Actually Aamer at 10 has a higher score than Afridi in the whole tournament.

[Real.Badshah]

I think he is certainly the best man for the job at the moment. The dissapointment I beleive has been due to overly optimistic expectations rather than particularly bad performance. Just look at where we were just six months ago and look at where we are now. I think we are close to regaining the strength we had amongst our peers in the 90's.

[eViLrAcEr]

Who is pakistans leading wicket taker in the last 2 years?

Who won pakistan the world cup single handedly?

who has been shoved so low down the order when he comes in he doesnt have time to get his eye in because we need to accelerate because YK is eating up too many balls?

And who has a 100% captains winning record in all forms?

:afridi
ahaha how many games has he captained again?
and he's not been shoved to #6, he comes in at #6 by his own choice

[Kray_jackson7]

Who lost Pakistan this semi-final single-handedly. :slaps forehead :yk

And aren't you the one that thinks Afridi is better than Ponting?

Go on. Justify Afridi's performance today. I bet Ponting would have performed. When was the last time he got an ODI fifty? Actually Aamer at 10 has a higher score than Afridi in the whole tournament.

how many overs did ponting get to bat for? i would love to see ponting come in afridi situation with no batsmen left at 4 run rate needing to accelerate with 8 overs left.

if you can ask dumb questions so will i sio here you go:
how many wickets did ponting take?

MAYBE you should use your brain instead of shouting dumb questions.

[Kray_jackson7]

ahaha how many games has he captained again?
and he's not been shoved to #6, he comes in at #6 by his own choice

"But my position in the batting order was never consistent and I couldn't cope with the constant shuffling up and down. So three years ago I decided I should focus on my bowling once again, and I have done well now. I rate myself as a bowler first and then a batsman."

sayiong he wants to come at number 7 shows how little you know. after hitting 3 50's in 3 T20s at number 3 and asking to come at number 7? do you know what cricket is?

[Pak_cricketer]

I'm not blaming him as a captain, but you can't be in a team just as a captain, you need to bat!

[GLORY OF '92]

It's not afridi vs YK! Don't derail the thread.

Also please remember when the country was most desperate for some joy YK lead us to a World cup victory. Short memories or what???

He's in poor form and is playing thoughtless shots but he will come good. I have no doubt.

[eViLrAcEr]

"But my position in the batting order was never consistent and I couldn't cope with the constant shuffling up and down. So three years ago I decided I should focus on my bowling once again, and I have done well now. I rate myself as a bowler first and then a batsman."

sayiong he wants to come at number 7 shows how little you know. after hitting 3 50's in 3 T20s at number 3 and asking to come at number 7? do you know what cricket is?
makaveli, he stepped up and requested to come in at #3 in T20s
he didn't do the same in ODIs, tells me how little you think of other factors in your analysis

[Zechariah]

He is the main reason, this team is in form right now, otherwise we are becoming a laughing stock.

He united the team and made it a fighting unit.

Any person with common sense can see that.

In Younis I trust.

[mindless slogging]

how many overs did ponting get to bat for? i would love to see ponting come in afridi situation with no batsmen left at 4 run rate needing to accelerate with 8 overs left.

if you can ask dumb questions so will i sio here you go:
how many wickets did ponting take?

MAYBE you should use your brain instead of shouting dumb questions.

Alright answer the Aamer part. He had even less time, even less balls, only 1 wicket to play with, and he got a higher score than Afridi in the tournament.

And if you can't see Ponting's better than Afridi, you sir are a royal idiot.

[J-Essence]

it was fun tournament....i really enjoyed it and i want New Zeland to win it all the way....

[Kray_jackson7]

Alright answer the Aamer part. He had even less time, even less balls, only 1 wicket to play with, and he got a higher score than Afridi in the tournament.

And if you can't see Ponting's better than Afridi, you sir are a royal idiot.

Aamir as a tail-ender has no pressure if he doesnt perform. aamir made more then YK what makes Yk fit for the job>?

and why not tell me which pakistani player is better then ponting seeing as you are such a genius? Why not compare ponting to YK?

Last 15 ODIs they are both number 3 batsmen:

YK average of 25 strike-rate of 64
Ponting average of 49.64 strike rate of 82.73

[mindless slogging]

Aamir as a tail-ender has no pressure if he doesnt perform. aamir made more then YK what makes Yk fit for the job>?

and why not tell me which pakistani player is better then ponting seeing as you are such a genius? Why not compare ponting to YK?

Last 15 ODIs they are both number 3 batsmen:

YK average of 25 strike-rate of 64
Ponting average of 49.64 strike rate of 82.73

Cause you claimed Afridi is better than Ponting on the Ponting thread.

Anyway, I think it's time for you to sleep with the Afridi doll. good night.

[eViLrAcEr]

why are some people comparing totally different players like Afridi and Ponting :s

ponting is a specialist batsman who has also been struggling with the bat until the game VS england
Afridi is a great player, no doubt...can perform whenever needed...i daresay that if this was a run chase for the same target, he would've won us the match but for the captain's role...Afridi is definitely not the man at this stage, maybe as VC he will learn how to manage the team on the field better

[Kray_jackson7]

Cause you claimed Afridi is better than Ponting on the Ponting thread.

Anyway, I think it's time for you to sleep with the Afridi doll. good night.

yes avoid the question. why not compare the guy you are defending? Have you seen his stats? At number three them stats are terrible!!

[jatt799]

im with yk he's a good captain.only need fix his batting thats it great leader

[Kray_jackson7]

why are some people comparing totally different players like Afridi and Ponting :s

ponting is a specialist batsman who has also been struggling with the bat until the game VS england
Afridi is a great player, no doubt...can perform whenever needed...i daresay that if this was a run chase for the same target, he would've won us the match but for the captain's role...Afridi is definitely not the man at this stage, maybe as VC he will learn how to manage the team on the field better

he 'mindless' just brought it up.

Also to say YK is right for the job i dont think so. the man who ran away 3 time previous to this. why him? he showed how scared he is of taking on the role. he ran away 3 time!!!

[Boi]

he 'mindless' just brought it up.

Also to say YK is right for the job i dont think so. the man who ran away 3 time previous to this. why him? he showed how scared he is of taking on the role. he ran away 3 time!!!

Makaveli786 on Younis Khan deserving to be saptain of Pakistan team:

i think its a good appointment. it is alot better then shoaib malik and one step away from the right one. atleast they getting closer.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=1795518&postcount=30

[Kray_jackson7]

Makaveli786 on Younis Khan deserving to be saptain of Pakistan team:



http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=1795518&postcount=30


i did say that it is better then shoaib malik but not the right one. i stand by that still. he was not the best but better then shoaib malik.

[On_the_up]

YK is the right man to lead the team, there is no substitute at the moment. Pakistan are doing pretty well considering the lack of cricket we had to play recently. Youngsters have been given chances which was a major complaint under the Malik régime, Asif is back, and the bowling looks pretty good. We just need to find a couple of decent batsmen and we should be o.k.

[eViLrAcEr]

but nobody knows the reasons so why blame him then.
some of the reasons could be:

-he knew others wanted the position and did not favour to compete against his fellow teammates
-he had something else to work on
-maybe he was not confident at that time
-maybe he was looking to cement his place in the team first

tell me, will you be willing to captain a side when you're tired or when you don't think you can do it? NO. it would be an utter waste of time...rather, when you're confident, you will feel no fear in doing the same

[z2_daredevil]

I Am With Uuuuu !!!!

[Kray_jackson7]

evil lacer look at the reasons before making up your own. he was scred. simple as and he still is no good. he never Talks to his bowlers except shout at them. he should be talking to them when they bowl a good ball or when they get hit for a boundary to keep their confidence up. Like afridi does. even commentators be saying 'afridi is doing the captains job for him'

[eViLrAcEr]

evil lacer look at the reasons before making up your own. he was scred. simple as and he still is no good. he never Talks to his bowlers except shout at them. he should be talking to them when they bowl a good ball or when they get hit for a boundary to keep their confidence up. Like afridi does. even commentators be saying 'afridi is doing the captains job for him'
you made up your own, so i made up mine

you didn't look into his mind to see that he was scared so stop being a psychologist please, people have different perspectives of looking at what the captain's job should be

[Juggernaut]

Still the right man for the job.

The only man for the job.

[Stewie]

They play with their hearts on their sleeves and it hurts them more to lose than us.

Nobody lose on purpose and they did their best. Lets give them a hand for providing us all the excitement and joy over the last few weeks.

Thank you, guys



God Bless Pakistan!

[P4K1 #1]

^^ Yup..

[me_asim]

yes i applaud their effort...we definitly have some issues to sort out with batting but Pakistan did reach semis and did do better then most expected.

[me_asim]

yes I agree...hopefully this defeat will go a long way in us being better in worldcup

[sali]

Yonus was the weak link here.
He was definitely injured and he should not have played. His decision to send Shoib Malik to face new ball (Bond) was atrocious. He knows Malik doesn't have the technique or will to play as an opener or no 3.
He derailed the inning in the match against Aus. Team took Aus match very casually until the last 12 overs. They needed to stay in Centurion and not come back to bouncy Wanderers pitch. EVERYONE TRIED TO RUN THE BALL TO THIRD MAN AND GOT OUT.

At the end, the dropped catch for Elliott may have something to do with his finger??

Positive news is that team is making good progress but it still needs two top class batsman to be a world beater.

[Prince of Pakistan]

Younus Khan zindabad

[saqlain]

As always the better team won the game. We shouldnt be getting too emotional. This is not the first time and I am sure not the last time we lose a game. I am sure Pakistan will do well against the series against NZ and Aus. There are some issues with the batting but I guess no one is pointing to the good bowling performed by NZ. Their bowlers should be given the credit to bowl well.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Indeed - it was dissapointing to lose BUT this is pretty much the same set of players that won us the T20 World Cup.

[mindless slogging]

I have to say the spirit and fighting till the end mentality is refreshing to see.

Well done Younus and the lads. :yk

Or as Inzi would say:the boyzes played well and the boyzes are learning. :inzi

[Muzy]

i have patience for yk to come good so i stand by him though good and bad times (people go through bad patches in life and learn from it and improve) yk has made a vow he wants pak to win either CT or WC our target is WC for sure Inshallah

[Kamranz]

I still stand by Younis, HOWEVER there were some seriously Poor decision made by him:

1) brought on Rana and then switched to Gul when we ought to have gone for Spinners on the other end.

2) Didn't use Shoiab Malik enough. He only bowled 3 overs.

3) Like MOYO, Like Misbah like at times Shoaib Malik, Younis Doesn't rotate the strike. They tend to block to rebuild when they suppose to get singles and two's.

[zubair_786_7]

im with him all the way he is the guy to take pakistan forward....cnt u guys see the improvement? u lot must be blind...dnt jus blame him for the catch or sum batting failure!!

[saadjhussain]

i'm with him

[shobiii]

I am with Kaptaan Sahib it is not easy leading Pak. It's a sport -someone has to lose. Good to see the cheetah mentality back. Fighting till the end boys showed heart , young Aamer is seriously lethal, Umar is excellent, the spin twins are awesome, YK has a great platform here to build a kickass team

[harman]

i stand by younis

[GLORY OF '92]

So far most people agree with me. A lot more common sense on PP than one would think at times :)

[asadee]

I stand by Younis and he wil lfulfill my wish of silencing the whole of "Mumbai" in the WC 2011 final Inshallah!

[khanz141]

Two days Ago, everyone was behind him but one bad match and so many want him off now..... ridiculous, he is the one responsible for taking the team out of so many troubles and rebuilding it so we can expect champions like performance from the team now.
And those who want Afridi to be the captain, He is even more inconsistent in all the categories than Yunis. atleast Yunis is good at something called the captaincy

[zulfiqar]

I think he's the right captain but he's not a good 1 down batsman; let Malik come 1 down. It's hard to justify yk in the battinf lineup after a dismal performance this year so he needs to start performing better at another position.

[haroonrasheed320]

Areas of concern:
Openers
Rana Vs Razzaq

Solve this & I am with you Younis bhai thank you for playing with an Injury Long Live Younis

[Eagle Eyes]

^agree with the above.

[Waseem]

Younis Khan has been extremely poor this year and he is making mistakes as a captain as well but i think we can't just drop him because of recent failures. He is averaging 25 this year in 16 games at a PATHETIC strike rate but he did well in the last few years averaging
54, 36 and 38 in the last 3 years. We need to get rid of Misbah and we can't afford to drop all senior players at once so Younis should still play ODIs till 2011 WC.

[abc_to_xyz]

I'm not with him.. Infact, he is the only -ve point in the team.. (If you exchange Rana with Asif)

[zarak]

I'm not with him.. Infact, he is the only -ve point in the team.. (If you exchange Rana with Asif)

you dont realize that whatever the team has done is because of him, he may not have performed himself but if you attack him and kick him out pak cricket is never gonna improve its just going to set up a bad precedent where every captain will be removed after one faliure

[sakss]

im with u..but he needs to stop making a few errors like taking the batting power play at the right time....and obviously firing with the bat too...

[Easa]

His captaincy is pretty decent, but his batting has been awful all tournament.

That doesn't necessarily mean he's an awful ODI batsman, it just means he's batting at the wrong position and wasting our good starts. It was the right decision to send Malik in at 3 today, but why did it come out of the blue? Did Younis not want to go out and face the new ball? And if he's going to send Malik in at 3, he has to bat at 5, not 4. Our batting revolves around Yousuf - Younis is just wasting momentum. Five is the only place I can see for him in the order right now, and even that is one too high.

He needs to get his batting in order, the rest will come.

[Sufi Malang]

I think we need him as captain in ODIs as well as TEsts. But if he doesn't sort out his batting form, it will be tougher to persist with him. Maybe he should move down the order coz he likes to rotate the strike and plays spinners better than fast bowlers. ALso hes not the one who takes advantage of power play. He should bat at no.5,6 .

[Savak]

His captaincy is pretty decent, but his batting has been awful all tournament.

That doesn't necessarily mean he's an awful ODI batsman, it just means he's batting at the wrong position and wasting our good starts. It was the right decision to send Malik in at 3 today, but why did it come out of the blue? Did Younis not want to go out and face the new ball? And if he's going to send Malik in at 3, he has to bat at 5, not 4. Our batting revolves around Yousuf - Younis is just wasting momentum. Five is the only place I can see for him in the order right now, and even that is one too high.

He needs to get his batting in order, the rest will come.

Under Inzi Younis used to bat after Malik and Yousaf and even Inzi. He would come to the wicket during the later stages, rotate the strike and score at run a ball.

Younis when he comes in at no 3, tries to take a lot more time to get going. Maybe his batting was affected by his finger injury but at the moment he cannot justify batting at no 3 when in such poor form. Maybe Yousaf can come in at no 3.

[PakPassionate]

I am with u too....YK WE LOVE U

[Wassixpakistani]

Under Inzi Younis used to bat after Malik and Yousaf and even Inzi. He would come to the wicket during the later stages, rotate the strike and score at run a ball.

Younis when he comes in at no 3, tries to take a lot more time to get going. Maybe his batting was affected by his finger injury but at the moment he cannot justify batting at no 3 when in such poor form. Maybe Yousaf can come in at no 3.

Agree with Savak , but yesterday Yk played his card right when he sent Malik at No.3 . Sadly Malik disappointed but that doesn't mean that we stop him at No.3 , he needs to a consistent run .

[ace_allrounder]

He hasnt been scoring more than 20 runs in the tournament.

I was so shocked to hear before the match that he was playing even though he was injured.But I thought maybe he could do it.
Well he didnt.Dropped a sitter didnt he?,That happens when you play with an injured hand.

But I also blame the defeat because of the ridiculous decision by the umpires.During PAK innings,they wrongly gave Umar Akmal out when he wasnt.
And the NZ innings was even more ridiculous.There was no doubt that it was out but the biased umpires didnt give him out.

At the end of the day,jo hua,so hua.Raat gayi,baat gayi.Anyway,we're facing NZ one month later so I hope they whitewash the Kiwis:P

[amarmak]

Completely backing Younis...

Bravest cap'n we've had in years... turned a bunch of individuals into a team.

Many lessons wud hav been learnt yesterday. It will only get better.

[Wassixpakistani]

At the end of the day,jo hua,so hua.Raat gayi,baat gayi.Anyway,we're facing NZ one month later so I hope they whitewash the Kiwis:P

That's the Spirit .

[ace_allrounder]

That's the Spirit .

Must...not...cry....


:6: :6:

[Wassixpakistani]

Must...not...cry....


:6: :6:

Hey , what's the crying about :13: . We have achieved our goals , taking revenge against India and reaching the semi-finals . Be happy :36:

[ace_allrounder]

Hey , what's the crying about :13: . We have achieved our goals , taking revenge against India and reaching the semi-finals . Be happy :36:

Yeah *sniff*

Atleast we made it to the semis.We should make a thread on the positive side too,at the outcome of the match.:)

[Rudi hater]

I am with the SKIPPER. We reached the semis thats an achievement in its self. We won the T20 WC and now reached the semis from sub-contienent behalf.

[Wassixpakistani]

Yeah *sniff*

Atleast we made it to the semis.We should make a thread on the positive side too,at the outcome of the match.:)


Here you go .

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=83896

Let's get positive :akhtar :asif

[cricketpassion]

I stand by:yk

Go younus go kill the kiwis in month time and tell them who is real champion :D

[LG]

Can't read all the posts, but I'm with the OP.

[Wassixpakistani]

Can't read all the posts, but I'm with the OP.

Just say " I stand by YK " :comeandge

[pakcricketfan]

Still the right man for the job.

The only man for the job.

I completely agree with you.
YK is the right man and the ONLY man to captain Pak team. He just needs to sort out his batting. Then much of his problems will be solved.

[Kray_jackson7]

He himself admitted that his performances are not as good now that he is captain. if your performace is dropping then either drop captaincy and find form or wait to be dropped.

[IMMY69]

yk is the perfect person for captaincy...he is a strong character and a binding influence in this much talented but volatile team. He is also a classy batsman who is just out of form (and injured!)...but class is permanent and i'm sure he'll only get better...

Also remember it is yk who played a young mo amir in the 20/20 and it is yk who promoted afridi in the 20/20, it is also moyo who backed ajmal's talents and the same person who has had the bottle to try out youngsters like shehzad, sheziab and who brought in fawad alam in a test match..the same person who dropped misbah (so called experienced batsmen) and he will be the man to instroduce and cement other youngsters in the future.

For me it should be yk all the way. there is absolutely no one else who can come close to yk as a captain in pakistan

[pakcricketfan]

Can we please have ONLY YK SUPPORTERS in this thread?

[Kray_jackson7]

aamir would always have played even if shoaib malik was captain he was a replacement for akhtar. YK did not promote afridi to number 3 afridi asked to be moved up and YK agreed.
the way everyone is saying it is as fi YK went up to afridi and said 'You are batting at number 3'

[razoobadmash]

I thought Younis Khan was different but no he's the same selfish style of captain that has plagued Pakistan cricket......The same had a broken finger that required 4 weeks of rest....Everywhere else in the world if a player had suffered the same injury he would be out for 4 weeks but no this is pakistan......Younis you proved me wrong, I thought highly of you, I felt different but no your the same........Younis should have been better then this he was not fit and should have sat out....
I give him some credit but he should have sat for the betterment of the team......Damn shame..

And Rana, I expected him to leak runs, Asif was a better option!! Damn younis, I think he picked Rana because he knew he could not bat and thought Rana can bat and bowl, Asif can bowl only..............................damn

[waqar_ahmad]

yk is the perfect person for captaincy...he is a strong character and a binding influence in this much talented but volatile team. He is also a classy batsman who is just out of form (and injured!)...but class is permanent and i'm sure he'll only get better...

Also remember it is yk who played a young mo amir in the 20/20 and it is yk who promoted afridi in the 20/20, it is also moyo who backed ajmal's talents and the same person who has had the bottle to try out youngsters like shehzad, sheziab and who brought in fawad alam in a test match..the same person who dropped misbah (so called experienced batsmen) and he will be the man to instroduce and cement other youngsters in the future.

For me it should be yk all the way. there is absolutely no one else who can come close to yk as a captain in pakistan

THIS!!!!

People forget that the reason pak team looks any good, the reason it was one of the favorites to win the CT, the reason the players gelled together to lift the T20 trophy, was coz of YK.

And why is it, that anytime we dont win a tournaments, we want to sack YK?

[IMMY69]

aamir would always have played even if shoaib malik was captain he was a replacement for akhtar. YK did not promote afridi to number 3 afridi asked to be moved up and YK agreed.
the way everyone is saying it is as fi YK went up to afridi and said 'You are batting at number 3'

arrh but the thing is these things happened under yk's captaincy and not under maliks captaincy! you also forget that sohail tanvir was the 'senior' bowler and it took some guts for yk to pick a 17 yr old! About afridi, the form he had with the bat coming into the competition and even after the first few games he looked like a complete novice with the bat (remember atherton and other pundits saying that afridi is no longer any force with the bat, wasim 'he bats wiuth eyes closed etc etc etc!) so what would any normal captain do when afridi says 'promote me?', i dont think this needs answering.

[IMMY69]

THIS!!!!

People forget that the reason pak team looks any good, the reason it was one of the favorites to win the CT, the reason the players gelled together to lift the T20 trophy, was coz of YK.

And why is it, that anytime we dont win a tournaments, we want to sack YK?

because most supporters are absolutely fickle!!!!

it has not even been year since yk assumed the captaincy, he has led them to the 20/20 cup and a semi final..he is bringing in young players and yet people are more then happy to bring out the knives!!

In sport, forget the england managers job, the hardest job has to be the pakistan captaincy!

[waqar_ahmad]

because most supporters are absolutely fickle!!!!

it has not even been year since yk assumed the captaincy, he has led them to the 20/20 cup and a semi final..he is bringing in young players and yet people are more then happy to bring out the knives!!

In sport, forget the england managers job, the hardest job has to be the pakistan captaincy!
Spot on!!

Before YK, this team was a joke, a third class school team that was whipped by everyone.

I think some people need to understand how cricket is played, and how teams are built. A team cant just win all tournaments overnight. It takes time to reach that level.

One guy here, said during the T20 WC, that for pakistan to win, YK must give the captaincy back to malik. This is how smart some people are on here,

Too many armchair critics on here, whose memories are just last one tournament.

[Kray_jackson7]

arrh but the thing is these things happened under yk's captaincy and not under maliks captaincy! you also forget that sohail tanvir was the 'senior' bowler and it took some guts for yk to pick a 17 yr old! About afridi, the form he had with the bat coming into the competition and even after the first few games he looked like a complete novice with the bat (remember atherton and other pundits saying that afridi is no longer any force with the bat, wasim 'he bats wiuth eyes closed etc etc etc!) so what would any normal captain do when afridi says 'promote me?', i dont think this needs answering.

half of what you say is true. but if afridi asks for promotion you promote him end of story because he is feeling something. But also remember that YK is performing alot worse because of captaincy and if he isnt finding form either he must give up captaincy or be dropped. if you dont agree you must Love the guy too much,

[IMMY69]

half of what you say is true. but if afridi asks for promotion you promote him end of story because he is feeling something. But also remember that YK is performing alot worse because of captaincy and if he isnt finding form either he must give up captaincy or be dropped. if you dont agree you must Love the guy too much,

'if i dont agree i must love the guy too much???'

I think you've lose the plot mate. I can't argue with your perverse logic

P.s.
yk has captained 8 odi's before this tourney..he missed the windies game so that means he has captained a total of 11 odi games!! You simply cannot judge a captain's performance over 11 odi games..Perhaps if you dont agree then you must hate the guy too much!

[waqar_ahmad]

half of what you say is true. but if afridi asks for promotion you promote him end of story because he is feeling something. But also remember that YK is performing alot worse because of captaincy and if he isnt finding form either he must give up captaincy or be dropped. if you dont agree you must Love the guy too much,
hain??

So you promote afridi, coz he is "feeling something."

That's the criterion for promotion. And what if all the other batters feel something too?

And by the way, the so called maturity that has crept into afridi's batting, which turns into immaturity sometimes, where was it before YK took over?

This team will be in tatters if YK leaves. I think you have forgotten how bad we were before he took over

[pakcricketfan]

half of what you say is true. but if afridi asks for promotion you promote him end of story because he is feeling something. But also remember that YK is performing alot worse because of captaincy and if he isnt finding form either he must give up captaincy or be dropped. if you dont agree you must Love the guy too much,


:20: :20:

[GLORY OF '92]

From what I know YK and Afridi are like brothers so I think it is very unlikely that afridi will be able to accept the captaincy unless YK gives it up himself.

Therefore as no one else could be captain the only logical and fair position is to support YK.

[waqar_ahmad]

From what I know YK and Afridi are like brothers so I think it is very unlikely that afridi will be able to accept the captaincy unless YK gives it up himself.

Therefore as no one else could be captain the only logical and fair position is to support YK.
Yaar, its not that YK is the only option. He is a very good captain. People make it sound like he is the only choice available.

Like I said, he has gelled the players together, and is the calming and binding force that we need.

[GLORY OF '92]

Well we are lucky our only option is a great captain. How some people fail to see this is beyond me.

We need to look long term for once (2011 world cup) and I have confidence in YK to lead us to victory inshallah.

[Kray_jackson7]

If a 'great captain' cannot perform up to his standards and states himself that the captaincy is the reason he should be given a limited amount of time to find form.

If you have someone scoring 25 at number 3 because you are captain then you must give up the role. If you cant perform as captain either give up the captaincy and perform or just wait to be dropped.

[zarak]

I thought Younis Khan was different but no he's the same selfish style of captain that has plagued Pakistan cricket......The same had a broken finger that required 4 weeks of rest....Everywhere else in the world if a player had suffered the same injury he would be out for 4 weeks but no this is pakistan......Younis you proved me wrong, I thought highly of you, I felt different but no your the same........Younis should have been better then this he was not fit and should have sat out....
I give him some credit but he should have sat for the betterment of the team......Damn shame..

And Rana, I expected him to leak runs, Asif was a better option!! Damn younis, I think he picked Rana because he knew he could not bat and thought Rana can bat and bowl, Asif can bowl only..............................damn

seriously man why didnt u say this when he played vs india with a broken finger and got gambhir runout stop being a kid, grow up support your team and your captain and break out of this knee jerk mentality

[Savak]

YK has made his share of mistakes as captain like choosing the wrong time to take the powerplay, some ultra defensive field settings, bowling choices (well the bowlers let him down).

Hopefully he will learn from this. He has to start scoring runs now.

[waqar_ahmad]

seriously man why didnt u say this when he played vs india with a broken finger and got gambhir runout stop being a kid, grow up support your team and your captain and break out of this knee jerk mentality
Good point.

When he got gambhir run out, he was the hero. Now, he shouldnt have played.

Talk about being fickle

[waqar_ahmad]

YK has made his share of mistakes as captain like choosing the wrong time to take the powerplay, some ultra defensive field settings, bowling choices (well the bowlers let him down).

Hopefully he will learn from this. He has to start scoring runs now.
There was nothing wrong with bowling changes, or field settings. He had slips even after 40 overs!! What is ultra defensive about that?

What can he do with rana and gul are throwing no balls after no balls in the death overs?

[Savak]

There was nothing wrong with bowling changes, or field settings. He had slips even after 40 overs!! What is ultra defensive about that?

What can he do with rana and gul are throwing no balls after no balls in the death overs?

I think he allowed to many easy singles to the NZ players, he was gambling on the fact that even if they got close to the target they wouldnt be able to hit out effectively in the end. If he had tried to stop those singles and made them take more risks then it could have gone either way. Stopping singles is even more important when you have a low score on the board.

Even against Australia, we allowed so many easy singles to Johnson, Lee and Hauritz and in the end they just barely got close to our target.

[waqar_ahmad]

I think he allowed to many easy singles to the NZ players, he was gambling on the fact that even if they got close to the target they wouldnt be able to hit out effectively in the end. If he had tried to stop those singles and made them take more risks then it could have gone either way. Stopping singles is even more important when you have a low score on the board.

Even against Australia, we allowed so many easy singles to Johnson, Lee and Hauritz and in the end they just barely got close to our target.
Yk was constantly telling the players to close in on the batters. Did you watch his hand gestures?

Against NZ, the great duo of gul and rana was bowling crap. My heart was in my mouth when they were bowling at the death. So there was a reason why the fielders in the circle were right on the edge.

The problem is that our greatest death bowler, Gul, cant bowl anymore. Did you see the number of no balls and free hits he gave away?

There was nothing wrong with the field placings, as was confirmed when vettori and Elliot took apart rana and gul. One of the worst death bowling performances I have ever seen

[Kray_jackson7]

this is to his supporters:
lets say his captaincy is perfect do you admit that his batting is below what it should be? or are you happy with it? and what should happen if he doesnt find any form?

[Savak]

Yk was constantly telling the players to close in on the batters. Did you watch his hand gestures?

Against NZ, the great duo of gul and rana was bowling crap. My heart was in my mouth when they were bowling at the death. So there was a reason why the fielders in the circle were right on the edge.

The problem is that our greatest death bowler, Gul, cant bowl anymore. Did you see the number of no balls and free hits he gave away?

There was nothing wrong with the field placings, as was confirmed when vettori and Elliot took apart rana and gul. One of the worst death bowling performances I have ever seen

I agree, it boils down to the intensity of our close in fielders. Our close in fielding is so poor that opposition batters have no fear in taking them on. It is so common to see opposition batters take quick singles and to see a Pakistani close in fielder fumble the ball and even if he picks up the ball he takes a lot of time to throw the ball at the stumps and even misses in the process.

If Pakistan get one direct hit, i can guarantee you the opposition will think twice before taking quick singles against us. In fact i think this is precisely the reason why are batters dont take quick singles against the Aussies and Proteas.

[GLORY OF '92]

Yes his batting is poor at the moment. But form is temporary and class is permanent. He will come good soon.

[LG]

Just say " I stand by YK " :comeandge
If you say so. ;-)
half of what you say is true. but if afridi asks for promotion you promote him end of story because he is feeling something. But also remember that YK is performing alot worse because of captaincy and if he isnt finding form either he must give up captaincy or be dropped. if you dont agree you must Love the guy too much,
You believe that when Afridi asks for something it should be done, and you're telling other people they love YK too much??!!
this is to his supporters:
lets say his captaincy is perfect do you admit that his batting is below what it should be? or are you happy with it? and what should happen if he doesnt find any form?
You can read other threads, and you'll find that no one, including his supporters, thinks he's batting well. He admits it himself. And he has also said he's playing even with his injury, because his teammates want him to. Don't you see what his presence in the team brings to the overall spirit of the team? And, no, we are not happy with it, and if he doesn't find any form in the next couple of series, we too would want him to find his form back and then get back to the team. But until then he needs to stay.

People seem to forget he was the highest run-scorer in the Sri Lanka ODI series from either team, and had the second best average among batsmen in the series (Umar Akmal had best average).

[Kray_jackson7]

You believe that when Afridi asks for something it should be done, and you're telling other people they love YK too much??!!

Yes when he does it should be taken into consideration. i belive they were 1000s of threads on all forums asking for him to be promoted Afridi at number 7 in a T20 is a joke and afridi after asking was granted his wish.

You can read other threads, and you'll find that no one, including his supporters, thinks he's batting well. He admits it himself. And he has also said he's playing even with his injury, because his teammates want him to. Don't you see what his presence in the team brings to the overall spirit of the team? And, no, we are not happy with it, and if he doesn't find any form in the next couple of series, we too would want him to find his form back and then get back to the team. But until then he needs to stay.

People seem to forget he was the highest run-scorer in the Sri Lanka ODI series from either team, and had the second best average among batsmen in the series (Umar Akmal had best average).

No-one asked him. maybe read the following extract from an article posted by savak:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showpost.php?p=2149091&postcount=133

and his average for last 15 ODIs is 25 at strik rate of 64. this year he averages. his average this year in ODis is 25. his performances are not good enough for him to be in the team.

[Headshot Killz]

is he your scapegoat?

Poor batting

Nazir
K Akmal
Malik
Yousuf (48 off 80 balls on a batsmen friendly pitch is shocking)
Afridi

Poor Bowling
:gul ----He is living on T20 reputation
Naved----Not world class




YK is great captain and leader and in time his batting will improve


Nazir is not ODI batsmen
Umar Akmal should come earlier

[Kray_jackson7]

is he your scapegoat?

Poor batting

Nazir
K Akmal
Malik
Yousuf (48 off 80 balls on a batsmen friendly pitch is shocking)
Afridi


compare him to other batsmen that come one down. not batsmen like afridi who have to come in final overs with the team going 4 run arte and needing rapid acceleration.

I would rather have all the batsmen you names above instead of YK in his current form. i say we drop him for a while until he finds form or relieve him of his captaincy and see if he improves,

Also rana shouldnt be here we need abdul razzaq. he allows afridi to free up the order and his bowlin is good aswell

[Rizwan25]

not me i hate younis since the day first.... whats so good about his captancy? the whole CT he had no clue of when to take power play, he won the toss and batted first knowing that the due factor could hurt our spinners and also knowing that in second inning its gets easy to make runs...playing himself over Misbah.. didnt make much sense cause misbah was in better touch then younis and he was fit to play..
Younis and Moyo should be in our test team and we should pump in some young players in team so we would be ready for WC 2011.

[mali9]

NASHUKRAY LOG HO TUM you people are so emotional please please look at south africa and srilanka the best teams in the world and didnt even reach semies whats wrong with you people back up your team rather the criticising shame on you. Pakistan team is playing so well mashallah losing one game doesnt make any difference. please take it easy. i hate when pakistan start winning games and some people say we gonna win this champion trophy or worldcup how do youi know why are you so sure about it. only ALLAH knows what is going to happen and then you people start swearing and give stupid comments. some of you say pakistan will win this match but never say INSHALLAH, at the end then when pakistan lose then you are not willing to accept the defeat and you start on blaming team who have played fantastic cricket. face the reality and reality is that no team in the world gonna keep on winning if this happens then ????? you know what i mean.

HASBUNALLAHU WA'NIMAL WAQEEL

[muzher]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_voJXJICfYtg/R_US4JMPnxI/AAAAAAAAByI/FnfCYen7qTI/s400/younis+khan.gif

[saqlain]

NASHUKRAY LOG HO TUM you people are so emotional please please look at south africa and srilanka the best teams in the world and didnt even reach semies whats wrong with you people back up your team rather the criticising shame on you. Pakistan team is playing so well mashallah losing one game doesnt make any difference. please take it easy. i hate when pakistan start winning games and some people say we gonna win this champion trophy or worldcup how do youi know why are you so sure about it. only ALLAH knows what is going to happen and then you people start swearing and give stupid comments. some of you say pakistan will win this match but never say INSHALLAH, at the end then when pakistan lose then you are not willing to accept the defeat and you start on blaming team who have played fantastic cricket. face the reality and reality is that no team in the world gonna keep on winning if this happens then ????? you know what i mean.

HASBUNALLAHU WA'NIMAL WAQEEL

Moulvi sahib, you might be right in your opinion. The bottom line is that better team always win. I agree with you that Pakistani team fans are very emotional and they never appreciate the fact that Pakistan made it to the semi-final. I think as a cricket supporter we should also give credit to the winning team which we have forgotten as of late. NZ bowled very well and restricted us and then batted well to win the game. They deserve to be in the final.

[GLORY OF '92]

I'm still with him. Hopefully this offer will not be accepted.

This man led us to a world cup victory!! Those who don't think him going is a big deal need to wake up.

[Momo]

I stand by YK. Who's with me?
I am willing to stand by YK. I am also willing to stand behind YK. In fact the only place I am not willing to stand is in front of YK.
:yk

[161]

You can stand with YK .. but if the going gets rough I doubt he will stand by you.

[IMMY69]

I am willing to stand by YK. I am also willing to stand behind YK. In fact the only place I am not willing to stand is in front of YK.
:yk

you mean with your back to him!!!

how could you momo!!!! if he reads this post he may feel he has to resign!

[Momo]

how could you momo!!!! if he reads this post he may feel he has to resign!
:))

[Khurram]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=149972954115&ref=nf

Support Yk and we Jamsheed Dust should resgin

[*sallu*]

YK all the way

He should captain us in the '11 world cup

[IMMY69]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=149972954115&ref=nf

Support Yk and we Jamsheed Dust should resgin

now if we can expand that to include mr 10pct and other corrupt politicians then we may definitely beonto something!!!!!

[Savak]

YK should be locked in a room and be made to stand next to Akhtar, or behind/in front of Akhtar. Resignation would be the least of his problems.

[Khurram]

YK all the way

He should captain us in the '11 world cup


Yes.

[Gollum]

Stand by for what? The allegations have been quashed by all those who matter (i.e. the ICC and the PCB). Seriously YK needs to grow thicker skin and not make anything and everything 'anna ka masala'. He has done it once or twice already. These things will come up after every loss...this is a matter of routine in Pakistan.

[rhussain33]

Im with you Younis Khan for resigning, corrupt pakistani politicians have no right to accuse you like that, their corruption in politics is bad enough, let alone bringing it into cricket.

I would have liked you to stay captain cause your the best man for this job at the moment, and bat lower down the order in place of Misbah and get some form back. Who knows if you are still in the team this maybe the case.

[GLORY OF '92]

Just hope in 3 days time yk is still our captain.

[insaftak]

Another sad day in the history of Pakistani Cricket.

I stand by YK!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Khurram]

I am willing to stand by YK. I am also willing to stand behind YK. In fact the only place I am not willing to stand is in front of YK.
:yk


HAHAHA seems to know some ting about YK which we dont ? :14:

[coy0607]

Sorry I dont. HE is a good man but terrible captain.

We could have been in a situation where we could have been all out without using the powerplay.

I think he is a good man, average batsmen and a great captain, the best since Imran Khan imo.

[LG]

^^ average batsman in ODI's. In tests he is class. :yk

[pakcricketfan]

I stand by YK. He WILL HAVE TO take back his resignation.

[pakcricketfan]

Stand by for what? The allegations have been quashed by all those who matter (i.e. the ICC and the PCB). Seriously YK needs to grow thicker skin and not make anything and everything 'anna ka masala'. He has done it once or twice already. These things will come up after every loss...this is a matter of routine in Pakistan.

I would just post a piece from Osman Samiuddin's article in response to your post:

It cannot be a good thing to have led your country to the World Twenty20 title and the semi-finals of the Champions Trophy - the only country, by the way, to have reached the last four in both tournaments - and still have your own countrymen suspect you of match-fixing, to ask you, to tell you that it is so. And these are not just allegations of factions in teams, or about your own performances: these are serious allegations against your person and integrity.

[GLORY OF '92]

YK will be back inshallah. Pakistan needs him and he will not let us down.

Anyone punched dasti yet?

[Cover Drive]

ASAWRAB Guys,

Since Younus Khan has been doing horrible since scoring his 300 (correct me if I am wrong). I am with Younis Khan. I am pretty confident that he will come out very strong and will score heavily in NZ test series as well as Australian series. He is just one step away from becoming one of the best Pakistan captain after Imran Khan. Wasim Akram and Inzamam Ul Haq

So whos with me?

Also MODS my apologizes if this thread has already been created

[Desi]

he's fine in tests where the pressure to score quick is off, but he needs to say bon voyage to the ODI scene

everyone (media/cricinfo) talks about how yk stood up in the face of controversy etc., but i disagree completely. im not saying what was done (match-fixing accusations) was right, but the way to handle it is not to cry run away, then have mommy hold your hand and walk you back to where you were.

imo he created too much drama. now he says things like, "i'll come out of 20-20 retirement if my team allows me." lawl, give me a break, he is an extremely selfish person. the man has 2 fiftys in twenty innings of 20-20 cricket. remember when he played through injury through the champions trophy match against india, saying how he wanted to play an innings similar to tendulkar's of the 03 WC. i think the whole world rolled their eyes on that one. i personally think he is one of the most overrated players today (at least in the odi/20-20 circuits).

a good captain he is, nice/charming and seems to inspire/get along with the players. a good batsman on the other hand...

if all we want in a captain is inspiration, we should recruit obama.

[Amir]

I still back him. But he needs to pick it up or he is gonna find it hard to justify his spot. DEspite his bad results, he will turn it around cause we seen it before. He is still a good captain to me, energetic in the field. Our bowling performance has improved under him, he is dynamic and we seen him pull things back before. Knows how to use his bowlers.

[Cracket]

He is Pak's best bet as Captain right now, bar none. He's having a hard time right now, probably the effects of the controversy, should wear off soon.

[Wazmiester]

I am completely NOT with you on this my friend. I have always believed that Younis Khan is over rated. Being a genuine guy is one thing but he is certainly limited in his ability to play some aggressive cricket. And I am not saying this because of his recent failures but i have felt this way for a long time now. I really think he is a liablility at the moment and unfortunately Pakistan is in great dilema when it comes to captaincy because none of these guy are competent for such a demanding role.

[zaid65]

Count me in!!

Pakistani fans need to realize that we lost this series not because of the captain but it is lack of the talent in the country. We don't have talented players anymore. We have players like Malik, who should not be in the team in the first place, he is an off spinner converted batsman. One day Afridi is a world class batsman, next day he is an all rounder, than he become a bowling all rounder. Salman Butt, Farhat, Khalid Latif, Khuram, which one is better opener, nobody knows. Best batsman Mohammad Yousuf is a run out machine. Captain of the team does not know how to bat.

But, I would still back Younis Khan, because of his sincerity and his commitment with the game. From Richard Pybus to Bob Woolmer to countless people, Younis is the best choice for the captain. He is under lot of pressure due to dirty internal politics and if anybody blame for these losses, blame the people who are behind the dirty politics not Younis Khan.

He is the only person who can build our team with youngsters and this is what this team need at the moment. We need to get rid of all the politicians and send them to Zardari camp, may be they can help him more than the cricket team.

[adiabbasi]

i think Younis khan dont deserve a place in the team but he definitely deserve a place in team management as a massager it will be nice seeing him making our team fresh and relax .

[waqar_ahmad]

I back YK fully. Whenever the team loses, the captain is blamed. That is justified in a lot of cases, but it is not completely justified in this case. YK isnt going to come out and teach the entire middle and lower order how to bat

[Poison]

Ofc. I back YK, he does deserve the criticism for mainly starting the rot in the upper and middle order, and for batting poorly himself, but he's our best captain. However, he may need a break from ODI's, or maybe he can find form again in the Test series.

[insaaniyat]

Count me in!!

Pakistani fans need to realize that we lost this series not because of the captain but it is lack of the talent in the country. We don't have talented players anymore. We have players like Malik, who should not be in the team in the first place, he is an off spinner converted batsman. One day Afridi is a world class batsman, next day he is an all rounder, than he become a bowling all rounder. Salman Butt, Farhat, Khalid Latif, Khuram, which one is better opener, nobody knows. Best batsman Mohammad Yousuf is a run out machine. Captain of the team does not know how to bat.

But, I would still back Younis Khan, because of his sincerity and his commitment with the game. From Richard Pybus to Bob Woolmer to countless people, Younis is the best choice for the captain. He is under lot of pressure due to dirty internal politics and if anybody blame for these losses, blame the people who are behind the dirty politics not Younis Khan.

He is the only person who can build our team with youngsters and this is what this team need at the moment. We need to get rid of all the politicians and send them to Zardari camp, may be they can help him more than the cricket team.

He is not sincere, he is manipulating. One day resigns, when he finds out people are backing him. Next day he takes his resignation back. I retire from t20 then wants to come back. This guy doesn't know what he wants. Please open your eyes

[Desi]

I back YK fully. Whenever the team loses, the captain is blamed. That is justified in a lot of cases, but it is not completely justified in this case. YK isnt going to come out and teach the entire middle and lower order how to bat
this isn't what's going on here. when the team wins he takes credit for instilling inspiration, when the team loses he refuses to take credit (or laughs it off if he decides to). this man has been a liability in the ODI team for over a year

the fact that he refuses to bat at any position besides 3 says everything about his ego and his selfishness

[insaaniyat]

I back YK to go back to the pavilion. I back him to retire from ODI.

[Rizwan25]

I got his back, someone get him from the front and lets beat him up...we ll use rotation policy so everyone gets a chance....:)

[sali]

YK has definitely made some mistakes when it comes to rotation policy and him playing at #3. But let's be fair to him:

1. Rotation policy was announced by the selectors. They have selected 3 openers and they needed to justify their selection. Iqbal Qasim is a part of the tour selection and he insists that we should play regular opener. I can see that they are worried about Kiwi and Aus series. Solving the opener's dilemma has resulted in rotation policy and leaving out Umer Akmal, Shoib, and Yosuf costing us Kiwi series.

2. YK was trying to be a hero and he played with broken finger in CT. He had a month break after CT but he didn't play any domestic cricket due to politics and waiting for his injury to recover. He has been out of form and not had much time to bounce back in some side or domestic game.

3. Our coach Inti made the decision to change the batting order in the second game. This could have gone either way but it has really pissed off Mohd Yosuf and Shoib Malik according to today's Jang. Everyone claims that we lost the game bcoz of these changes.

Beside these blunders, I think he has been doing his job fairly well. Today, most players played stupid shots or ran out. He was the first one to derail the inning but the rest of the senior players were also too complacent.

[Khabri420]

I will support him provided no whining/tantrum-throwing/blame-game etc. Just go about your business and silence all your critics with your performance in the upcoming series. If not, then the end may be sooner rather than later.

[Logic]

I back him, but I don't know for how long we can keep this up!!

One has to justify his place in playing eleven, before asking for Captain's role.

In current one day team, i fear YK performance is not up to standard. Perhaps we can give him one more one day series to wait and see if he regains his one day form.

Otherwise he should be far away from one day team. Simple as that!!!

[imrank_88]

i back him

[taaveez]

Just out of curiosity, what exactly are you guys backing him for?

His T20 WC win, which he has since retired from and which we know who won for us?

Or, his CT win over India, after seeing what happened to India at Aussies D team's hands?

[daghetto]

not sure why everyones backing him, he needs to get out of the team quick. if it wasnt for ajmal and aamer to make up for almost a big loss when the match shouldvee ended 101-all out, everyone would want him the **** out

[UP]

Younis Khan is backed by every true Pakistani fan! He is currently the best man to do the job.

The thing we suffer from is team selections and some selfish personalities. On what basis Salman Butt made a come back? same goes with Farhat.

We first have to settle down the team and permanently kick out tried and tested failures. PCB's selection panel has to make Malik, Salman, Farhat, Rao, Rana Naved and to some extent Umar Gul aware that their place in the team is not guaranteed.

Fawad Alam and more youngsters should be given chances to prove themselves.

[Ryankhan]

im with him aswell. har bande pe bura waqt ata hai.. so have patience and wait. but what the other players did. younis captaincy was great today as he got rid no nz in 210 runs only.
so is there to be blame our batsmen. we lost the srilanka odi series n test series becoz of our batting so we need to improve in that area

[Afridi_Fan]

I back him, but if he continues with the stupid rotation policy, I don't think I will be backing him anymore. Form is temporary and class is permanent, the guy is a class player just out of touch, give him sometime and if he continues those selection blunders kick him out for once and all.

[iafzal]

Younis Khan is class. Sadly he is going though a very rough patch and for good of Pak Cricket he needs to recover soon from it.

It is unfortunate many PPers think he is manipulating and has tantrums. It is actually exactly opposite. He is too straight forward and how he feels he is not afraid to express. This may come across as a drama queen. I think if he keeps what he thinks to himself he may come across more accepting to all of us.

[pacman]

I back him, he is the best man for the job.

I am very dissapointed at the losses, especially the 2nd game, not because we lost, but the way we lost. If reports are true that Inti changed the batting around in the second game, then he needs to be shown the door. It was a stupid decision, and it just shows that he is not cut out for the job. We need a coach like Bob Woolmer. Under BW, we knew how to go about chasing. We need someone who can work with Younis Khan and support him and the players.

[Legendary_Sage]

I back YK.But he needs to get his focus on batting otherwise time is running out of his hands.

[Sufi Malang]

I am with you! Fire him ;-)

[dhump]

He is a load for Pakistan cricket taking poor decisions as a captain and batting really ugly and I think we can try others for job of capntaincy. He needs a time out he should be rested and droped and must play firstclass cricket, regain his form and join Pakistan team if he is capable. Its not only that his bad from cost us on 3rd position but put so much extra presure on middle and lower order.

Dont be emotional on matters where facts are speaking loud and clear if you guys really want to stand behind him then send him some cards for best of luck for his future.

[saqlain]

Comon people, YK is just a cricke player. It is not like Pakistan's existence or future is linked with YK or cricket. Foreign teams are not even bother to visit Pakistan. Politically the situation is terrible in Pakistan. And here we are so concerned about the YK's captaincy. I think we should leave these guys on their own and I am sure they would find their faults and fix them. At the end of the day, it is the board and the player himself who would be looking in to these matters.

[AZ]

I will support him provided no whining/tantrum-throwing/blame-game etc. Just go about your business and silence all your critics with your performance in the upcoming series. If not, then the end may be sooner rather than later.

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[cricket_fever]

he is a good captain...but he was a chicken not to drop himself and leave place for moyo knowing that he himself is seriously out of form! (all hail Yk...Cluck Cluck, Quack Quack)

[*sallu*]

Still with him

There have been much worse form patches both in Pak cricket and world cricket.

Jayawardene and Inzamam are prime examples from the '03 world cup

[Juggernaut]

I'm still backing him.

He's still the best choice.

Much better than having Afridi or Malik as captain.

[IMMY69]

I will back Yk after I am told whose decision it was to pick two specialist openers for the Odi's series! This is crucial because the only time two specialist openers ever worked for pakistan was when we had azhar mehmoud, razaq and wasim akram in the middle/lower order at their prime and a wizard of a batsmen like saeed anwar opening the innings (sohail was no slouch either!).

[muhammad saad]

Its irrelevant really whether we back him or not as 90% of our team is not backing him.

[IMMY69]

Its irrelevant really whether we back him or not as 90% of our team is not backing him.

thats my second fear!

[cricwiz]

I am not backing him at all for the time being... With individual performances like these, he is making a case against himself to be axed from captaincy.

But as being already named the captain for the Test series, he has still his last chance to stage a solid come back...

[Blistering Barnacle]

I back YK as test captain. But in other forms of the game, it's time for him to call it a day.

[90MPH]

I back YK as test captain. But in other forms of the game, it's time for him to call it a day.

Agree with that.

[Daytripped]

I'm with you. He needs to perform really really well though

[Rizie]

I back Shahid Khan Afridi

[Sufi Malang]

He is not ODI material, full stop!! Yes he is improving as captain in every game but his game (as batsman) hasn't improved a bit in recent times. He has proved to be a very good reliable Test batsman but not so in ODis. His avg, strike rates doesn't show a pretty picture, compare that with Yousuf and Malik and you will see whats the difference between an avg ODI players and Good/Excellent ODI players!

[Turbokam512]

^ i think he needs a break .. which is better than having to be so pathetic with the bat
let him go refresh himself up and be back later in the meantime its high time for Yousuf to accept responsibility and be captain of the test side
as for ODI's an all rounder like Afridi is the best man to the job for now
YK should be man enough to opt out when he should but as many here said he seems to be very selfish and perhaps thinks of himself par before his country that has led to the demise of a great oppurtunity to revenge CT defeat from the kiwi's who lacked everything but dedication and we had all but dedication and team spirit......

Hats off to Amir & Ajmal from saving the nation and turning a pathetic loss into a well fought battle

[Noman]

He is not ODI material, full stop!! Yes he is improving as captain in every game but his game (as batsman) hasn't improved a bit in recent times. He has proved to be a very good reliable Test batsman but not so in ODis. His avg, strike rates doesn't show a pretty picture, compare that with Yousuf and Malik and you will see whats the difference between an avg ODI players and Good/Excellent ODI players! :akhtar


You are spot on :misbah

I DONT YK, He is only good for test.. He has no odi record :shahzaib

[Amjid Javed]

I will back YK when he does the decent thing and retires from ODIs and just plays tests matches!

[abc_to_xyz]

I will say it again, I'm not with HIM!

[Noman]

I will back YK when he does the decent thing and retires from ODIs and just plays tests matches!


I back AJ :umarakmal

[ace_allrounder]

Sick of waiting for him to find his form back.
The only thing good about him was his captaincy skills which,now,is also fading away.

Sorry.No longer with him.Even if the Dasti issue repeats again,I'll stand in the sidelines and watch.

[Uncle Sam]

I am not much worried about his form with the bat. Every batsmen goes thru lean patches in his career and most of them recover out of it.. so no worries there.
The problem is: astronomical amount of risk you take when you give all the powers to a mentally not very stable person and make him lead the squad.

[Apnacricket]

Im not with yk its his own fault.

[CricnPak]

I fully back Younis Khan, or whoever's captain of Pakistan, always have, always will. We could lose a series to Bangladesh and I would still back the captain. Only if the captain has bad intentions will I not support him.

[*sallu*]

You people are not realizing that people have had much worse patches of forms.

Inzamam had 2 horror periods where everyone was saying he should be dropped (03 world cup and the bangaldesh series where he scored the amazing 100 in the last innings)

Jayawardene's horror 03 world cup. Ganguly's sack. Hayden's sack.

These are great players who had bad patches, but soon they were back and so will :yk

[Kray_jackson7]

You people are not realizing that people have had much worse patches of forms.

Inzamam had 2 horror periods where everyone was saying he should be dropped (03 world cup and the bangaldesh series where he scored the amazing 100 in the last innings)

Jayawardene's horror 03 world cup. Ganguly's sack. Hayden's sack.

These are great players who had bad patches, but soon they were back and so will :yk

i posted a list of inzi year to year and the he was dropped twice for bad form and he was dropped after the 2003 world cup also.

[taaveez]

You people are not realizing that people have had much worse patches of forms.

Inzamam had 2 horror periods where everyone was saying he should be dropped (03 world cup and the bangaldesh series where he scored the amazing 100 in the last innings)

Jayawardene's horror 03 world cup. Ganguly's sack. Hayden's sack.

These are great players who had bad patches, but soon they were back and so will :yk
Bad comparisons. Most of the above were dropped after they lost their forms. In fact, if you can digest Aussie selectors thinking of dropping Hussey for the upcoming tests, YK should have been history 10 matches ago.

More importantly, as an out-of-form player at #3, you are not just playing well, but you are also:
(1) Keeping out other talented players and potential match winners,
(2) Destabilizing the top order and leading collapses, and
(3) Losing the respect of your fellow players who can't fathom why they should be dropped ahead of you.

The best thing YK can do at this point to himself and to Pak cricket is to step out of the ODIs, concentrate on tests, find his form again, and then think about re-entering the ODIs ahead of WC 2011.

Seriously, you can buy the fastest lamborghini in town, but if you can't get it to start, it's just a piece of junk. A captain must qualify first as a player; if not, history has some nice lessons for us.

[*sallu*]

Bad comparisons. Most of the above were dropped after they lost their forms. In fact, if you can digest Aussie selectors thinking of dropping Hussey for the upcoming tests, YK should have been history 10 matches ago.

More importantly, as an out-of-form player at #3, you are not just playing well, but you are also:
(1) Keeping out other talented players and potential match winners,
(2) Destabilizing the top order and leading collapses, and
(3) Losing the respect of your fellow players who can't fathom why they should be dropped ahead of you.

The best thing YK can do at this point to himself and to Pak cricket is to step out of the ODIs, concentrate on tests, find his form again, and then think about re-entering the ODIs ahead of WC 2011.

Seriously, you can buy the fastest lamborghini in town, but if you can't get it to start, it's just a piece of junk. A captain must qualify first as a player; if not, history has some nice lessons for us.

I'm not arguing whether or not he should be dropped

I'm simpy saying players of great stature all go through rough patches and they all have comeback.
A player of YK's ability will go back, work on his game and come back, (whether after being dropped or the next series or whatever)but when he does come back, he will hurt oppositions and all the people against him

[Muhammad]

I'm simpy saying players of great stature all go through rough patches and they all have comeback.


Problem is his performance is poor over a long period of time, he's never been much more than a slightly above average ODI player at the best of times.

Top players are consistently good and will very occasionally have a poor run of form, with Younis(in ODI's) it's a case of he's consistently ordinary/average and will have very occasional good patches.

Even if he's being consistently OK it might be acceptable, but fact is he's rank at present, it's really a tough situation, we're crying out for continuity but fact is you gotta select your best team first and then pick the captain, we ain't that blessed with quality that we can afford to carry a mediocre playing captain.

I honestly don't think making anyone else captain will improve things much at this stage either, don't know the answer, nothing makes sense.

[Blistering Barnacle]

YK built up a lot of good will during the match-fixing allegations saga.

But I'd say he's lost that now and is in negative territory.

I can't understand his horrible decision-making with selection and his own position. Is he thick?

[Wassixpakistani]

I'm still backing him.

He's still the best choice.

Much better than having Afridi or Malik as captain.


Damn well said !!!

[BA.NBT]

'I stand by YK. Who's with me?'

NOT me, enough's enough, get rid of the old legs, give U.Akmal a promotion, Afridi captaincy or even revert back to Malik, he wasn't this bad!!!!!!!

[Gollum]

As far as I am concerned he's on JOB PROBATION at the moment. So no support from me, but I won't call for him to be axed either. He should be retained until at least the end of England summer tour. I will reserve my opinion about the 2011 WC captaincy until after that tour.

[Kray_jackson7]

I'm still backing him.

He's still the best choice.

Much better than having Afridi or Malik as captain.


you can say he is batter then shoaib M but how can you say he is bette captain then afridi?

[ali_zee]

me me me

[insaaniyat]

'I stand by YK. Who's with me?'

NOT me, enough's enough, get rid of the old legs, give U.Akmal a promotion, Afridi captaincy or even revert back to Malik, he wasn't this bad!!!!!!!

I agree with you. But I think he needs to given a chance till Australia series. His batting has been real bad. in 19 matches he has cross fifty only twice and rest of the time he has scored 28 or less. THat is just pathetic, if you ask me. May be he should come lower or open the inning. Opening the inning is a good option. Our openers always fail anyway so we won't get hurt and we will not have to drop Yousef. And if he clicks, he will get his confidence back

[LG]

I'm still with YK, but he needs to get his ODI form back. There won't be any point of having a Brearly type captain going into a World Cup.

[AZ]

I'm here, but the guy I'm standing for just left for "rest" :))

[Gollum]

YK is done as toast from captaincy and perhaps as a player as well.

[Uncle Sam]

I'm here, but the guy I'm standing for just left for "rest" :))

lol hahaha good one

[Zaz]

Im still with him, hes best man for job, just needs his form back and the rest inshallah will do the trick

[JeeraBlade]

I stand by YK. Who's with me?

Even YK is not standing by you! :)

[*sallu*]

Even YK is not standing by you! :)

As they say,

The corrupted man has the last say in Pakistan, and that is what has happened.

YK, blame him for being weak if you may, has just given up. He thought he could turn it around, he asked for the support of the player's, but the "insecure" seniors in our team just think for themselves rather than the country.

The recent infightings were the final nail in the coffin I think

[Uncle Sam]

Even YK is not standing by you! :)

lol ahhaha, man u guys are funny. :)))

[tauseefm]

As they say,

The corrupted man has the last say in Pakistan, and that is what has happened.

YK, blame him for being weak if you may, has just given up. He thought he could turn it around, he asked for the support of the player's, but the "insecure" seniors in our team just think for themselves rather than the country.

The recent infightings were the final nail in the coffin I think

very well said :14:

[Uncle Sam]

As they say,

The corrupted man has the last say in Pakistan, and that is what has happened.

YK, blame him for being weak if you may, has just given up. He thought he could turn it around, he asked for the support of the player's, but the "insecure" seniors in our team just think for themselves rather than the country.

The recent infightings were the final nail in the coffin I think

WHAT ????
He laid down all is conditions and terms on the table and waved his resignation letter in the air to get EVERYTHING he WANTED !!!! THE ABSOLUTE POWER !!!
And you want the "insecure" senior players do what now? Kiss YK's rear end so that he could play a captain's knock against a third class NZ team???

[Xohaib]

What hypocrites here.
Everyone was asking younis khan to drop himself and what great example it will be,I think he took the perfect decision.
He has a bad patch and whenever he comes back he comes as better player.
He could have stayed with the team and do whatever he wants,but he his sincere with pakistan that he has a bad patch and should work it out.
I stand by younis khan.

[*sallu*]

WHAT ????
He laid down all is conditions and terms on the table and waved his resignation letter in the air to get EVERYTHING he WANTED !!!! THE ABSOLUTE POWER !!!
And you want the "insecure" senior players do what now? Kiss YK's rear end so that he could play a captain's knock against a third class NZ team???

I don't know how this is related to what I said

As they say "Sawal Adrak, Jawad Pudina"

His performance is a different issue. We have all come to the conclusion he is out of form. You don't need a brain much bigger than an "akhrot" to figure it out. Has every captain always been in good form? You convienantly forget that he was uptil very recently our leading run scorer in the t20 world cup and one of the best batsmen in the Srilanka One Day series.

I want them to support the captain and therefore the country.
Ever since Malik has made that cheap third class comment I have lost all (and I mean every single bit) of respect for him.

I also don't agree with the so called "rotation" policy. Another mistake.
But stopping talking to the captain because of a bad decision??? That is pathetic

[Karachi]

It's easy to hate YK now but I back him. He will come good and he is the man to lead us in the world cup.

I don't support him, he doesn't deserve to be in ODI team. He is in terrible forum and should take some rest. I would also kick Malik and Razzaq.

Replacing with :umarakmal :shahzaib :fawad :bhanja :ahmeds

[GLORY OF '92]

I'm still with him. A good man is being stabbed in the back by Malik and co. YK knows he needs to work on his game and clear his mind. He needs to score well against aus and this will give him the authority and shut up the usurpers. Those who think the man is selfish just don't understand him. Like afridi he has done an immense amount of charity work recently while Malik has been browsing the dating sites.

It's pretty poor when we are so willing to drag our captains name through the mud so easily. We are indeed too fickle.

I don't buy this BS that YK had very little to do with the WC triumph. It is recognised that his statement about it being fun took the pressure off the team and allowed it to express itself. Also aamer and afridi at no 3????

[shaaan]

As they say,

The corrupted man has the last say in Pakistan, and that is what has happened.

YK, blame him for being weak if you may, has just given up. He thought he could turn it around, he asked for the support of the player's, but the "insecure" seniors in our team just think for themselves rather than the country.

The recent infightings were the final nail in the coffin I think
Totally agree with you

[Long_Live_Pakistan]

It's easy to hate YK now but I back him. He will come good and he is the man to lead us in the world cup.

ya please go on....shoot urself in ur own foot, if you like

[ihsandar]

only younis khan

[GLORY OF '92]

ya please go on....shoot urself in ur own foot, if you like

What sort of response is that? Next time read the date.

[shobiii]

YK is an honorable man - who is predictable and can be played by those who don't like him - deep cuts the knife - an honest man walks away..

[Koenigsegg]

As they say,

The corrupted man has the last say in Pakistan, and that is what has happened.

YK, blame him for being weak if you may, has just given up. He thought he could turn it around, he asked for the support of the player's, but the "insecure" seniors in our team just think for themselves rather than the country.

The recent infightings were the final nail in the coffin I think

So by the logic, Muhammad Yousuf is the most corrupted man in the team since he had the last say?

[*sallu*]

So by the logic, Muhammad Yousuf is the most corrupted man in the team since he had the last say?

Can't say what I don't know.

[cricketpassion]

So by the logic, Muhammad Yousuf is the most corrupted man in the team since he had the last say?

Mohammed yousuf credibility is well known since he left the country and went to join ICL for money

[*sallu*]

Mohammed yousuf credibility is well known since he left the country and went to join ICL for money

Well certainly he may not be the most corrupted man in Pakistan, but

(i) Leaving your country and going and playing for a rebel league for money
(ii) Negative comments about captain number 1 (malik)
(iii) Negative comments about captain number 2 (yk)
(iv) fight with management

doesn't put him on a list of saints either

[Oxy]

I think this is the beginning of the end for Younis Khan - I sense we will be hearing of his retirement from ALL forms of cricket in early 2010...