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arsalan660
5th December 2009, 14:17
http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/current/story/438255.html
Muttiah Muralitharan has said the ICC should ensure that the umpire decision review system is implemented in every Test series. The UDRS is currently being used in New Zealand and Australia, but not in India, where Sri Lanka have been on the receiving end of poor umpiring decisions.
"Had the review system been there, we could have been in a better position. Everything went against us," Murali said. "Dilshan couldn't capitalise on day one. Those are things that matter at the end of a Test. The ICC should open its eyes and just put the review system in place for all the games. We endorse the review system because the pressure is off the umpires."
Tillakaratne Dilshan, batting on 109, was adjudged caught at bat-pad in the first innings in Mumbai though replays showed a sizeable gap between bat and ball. Dilshan was then given out lbw in the second innings, after padding up to an offbreak from Harbhajan, and replays indicated the ball would have missed the stumps by a considerable margin. During India's first innings, Sri Lanka were unfortunate not to have Rahul Dravid caught behind off Rangana Herath and Sachin Tendulkar was fortunate to survive a close lbw appeal against the same bowler.
"At the moment the pressure is more on the umpires and if they make a mistake everyone will complain," Murali said. "The review system in the future is a must. In two other Test series happening in Australia and New Zealand it is on, but it's not happening here. I don't know how many decisions went against us, I didn't count, but there were many occasions we have been unlucky."
Despite the bad decisions against Sri Lanka, Murali said India had "played really well", "put pressure on us, and didn't allow us to bowl to our plans" to take control of the final Test. At the end of the fourth day, Sri Lanka had lost six second-innings wickets and were trailing by 59 runs. That they are still fighting was due to their captain Kumar Sangakkara, who defied the bowling by scoring his first century in India.
"It's a brilliant captain's knock," Murali said. "He's still at the wicket and if he hangs around for more time he can make a difference tomorrow."
Muralitharan said although it had not been "a rosy series" for him it could happen to any bowler. "I took nine wickets for 550 odd runs. Overall, we haven't got that many wickets in this series and that's why India is on top."
siddharth
5th December 2009, 14:24
Yes review should have been there.Umpiring did go against the Lankans.That was a real shame from our part not to accept the review system.
Bublu Bhuyan
5th December 2009, 14:26
Dravid got a life when he nicked it to the keeper in this Test, but he fell shortly afterward. And yes, Dilshan has been the unfortunate one having received two wrong decisions in a row.
But we too have had to suffer such decisions previously. In the ODI series earlier this year against Sri Lanka, Sachin was given out wrongly thrice in a row, that too while he was in single digits.
Bublu Bhuyan
5th December 2009, 14:28
Yes review should have been there.Umpiring did go against the Lankans.That was a real shame from our part not to accept the review system.
I feel the same. The game should be played fair and square. And instead of 2 challenges that are currently allowed, I would prefer the rule of 3 challenges that were previously allowed to both the parties.
cricket_fever
5th December 2009, 14:28
murali is acting a bit like our great mr vettori....hey murali stop complaining.....one iWhine in international cricket is enough!
siccric
5th December 2009, 14:30
he's right, the review system should've been there. It's a big series, with a rich board hosting. I don't know why they didn't have it. Dilshah has really been on the recieving end of shockers this match
Romali_rotti
5th December 2009, 14:33
Awwww poor Murali what next ? is he gonna ask for Gamini De Silva to be the review umpire as well like last time in Sri lanka when they got away with those real dodgy LBW reviews...
RexRex
5th December 2009, 14:42
Dilshan could have made a difference.Very unlucky for SL.
tdigi
5th December 2009, 14:48
I have been saying this from the beginning. What are the Indians afraid of? Shame really...
Gabbar Singh
5th December 2009, 15:24
Yes it's a shame and a bit of a joke that the Indian team got away with not using the review system here.
Although, maybe Murali would like us to use the review system to see how many of his balls are 'no balls'. Harbhajan too :)
insaaniyat
5th December 2009, 18:12
Dravid got a life when he nicked it to the keeper in this Test, but he fell shortly afterward. And yes, Dilshan has been the unfortunate one having received two wrong decisions in a row.
But we too have had to suffer such decisions previously. In the ODI series earlier this year against Sri Lanka, Sachin was given out wrongly thrice in a row, that too while he was in single digits.
Referral system will be back after this series. This is very obvious, ICC wanted India to have a chance at # 1. So much decision going against one team says a lot. Funny the system when it was in place against Sri Lanka a year or so ago. India was out classed. India can only win with the help of Umpires.
Bublu Bhuyan
5th December 2009, 18:16
Referral system will be back after this series. This is very obvious, ICC wanted India to have a chance at # 1. So much decision going against one team says a lot. Funny the system when it was in place against Sri Lanka a year or so ago. India was out classed. India can only win with the help of Umpires.
The frustration of watching us at #1 from the #7 spot is quite understandable. Keep venting it, you'll feel better.
Oxy
5th December 2009, 18:18
Did India reject the review system? Are they allowed to?
Its not perfect - but its actually starting to work! Not great in the 1st test (Pak v NZ) - but 2nd test its been excellent
itduzz
5th December 2009, 18:20
This series win should have asterick * sign because SL have been cheated by India & BCCI.
siddharth
5th December 2009, 18:21
The frustration of watching us at #1 from the #7 spot is quite understandable. Keep venting it, you'll feel better.
Watching that frustration is more sweeter than the number one position :D
siddharth
5th December 2009, 18:21
This series win should have asterick * sign because SL have been cheated by India & BCCI.
You are free to put * sign in whatever place you want to :asif
Oxy
5th December 2009, 18:22
This series win should have asterick * sign because SL have been cheated by India & BCCI.
And because SL have been crap*???
Bublu Bhuyan
5th December 2009, 18:22
Watching that frustration is more sweeter than the number one position :D
:))
siddharth
5th December 2009, 18:22
Did India reject the review system? Are they allowed to?
Its not perfect - but its actually starting to work! Not great in the 1st test (Pak v NZ) - but 2nd test its been excellent
I agreed no team should be allowed to choose.Plus the third umpire should be a neutral one.
itduzz
5th December 2009, 18:32
MUMBAI: An umpiring blunder cost Sri Lanka dearly as they battled to stave off defeat in the third cricket Test against India yesterday.
The tourists, trailing by 333 on the first innings, had moved to 1-84 in their second knock by lunch on the fourth day.
They lost Tillakaratne Dilshan leg-before to Harbhajan Singh for 16. Television replays showed the ball missing leg stump by at least six inches. Australia's Daryl Harper was the umpire.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/sri-lankan-setback-20091205-kbxb.html
:D
Oxy
5th December 2009, 18:46
MUMBAI: An umpiring blunder cost Sri Lanka dearly as they battled to stave off defeat in the third cricket Test against India yesterday.
The tourists, trailing by 333 on the first innings, had moved to 1-84 in their second knock by lunch on the fourth day.
They lost Tillakaratne Dilshan leg-before to Harbhajan Singh for 16. Television replays showed the ball missing leg stump by at least six inches. Australia's Daryl Harper was the umpire.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/sri-lankan-setback-20091205-kbxb.html
:D
I still dont understand how India were allowed to reject the Review System - but not much you can do if its not in place.
insaaniyat
5th December 2009, 18:50
I still dont understand how India were allowed to reject the Review System - but not much you can do if its not in place.
How? don't you know what ICC stands for? They rule the cricket world. Beside how else would they have a shot at being number 1. lol. Money talks my friend BS walks
ascher
5th December 2009, 18:56
:))
If by frustration you mean reaching the no 1 spot and yet people ridiculing it then I couldn't agree more !!
here :asif
The Edge: Troubled Test cricket must address rankings farce
IF INDIA beat Sri Lanka in the Test match that is now going on in Mumbai, they will go top of the ICC’s world Test rankings for the first time. Let’s hope it happens because if it does the Indian public might – despite the best efforts of Lalit Modi - actually wake up to the fact that Test cricket is worth the candle.
The indifference of Modi and India’s others administrators towards Test cricket, and towards the requirements of the Future Tours Programme, have been increasingly evident in recent years and this is hardly likely to change since the arrival of Twenty20. Hosting 18 matches in four years, and no Tests against New Zealand since 2003 or West Indies since 2002, is a clear message to the public that this format is simply not at the head of priorities.
Should India reach No1 it will also trigger a lively debate because few people outside India will actually agree that they are in fact the best Test team in the world. Australia will certainly have a few things to say about it, and so too South Africa. Both these teams beat India the last time India visited them, although both times the result was close at 2-1 and, as even Andrew Symonds might admit, India were unlucky to lose at Sydney in January 2008.
Graeme Smith’s side – the current holders of the No1 spot – might also point out that when they toured India last year they were only denied a series victory by a questionable “result” pitch in Kanpur that earned India a slap on the wrist from the ICC.
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If one takes out their deification by their own fans, India are hardly obvious top-dog material. They remain a mentally fragile side, as their recent ODI defeat at home to Australia showed. Having done much of the hard work in chasing a mammoth 351 in Hyderabad, they choked within sight of the winning line. Their spirits broken, they barely turned up for the next game. It was another format of the game admittedly, but it exposed India’s lack of belief – as did their reluctance to subject themselves to the new umpiring referral system.
That India are so close to going top highlights the flaws in the ranking system, as does Sri Lanka’s second place in the table. Both these teams rely heavily on favourable results at home for their standing. Sri Lanka have never won a series in Australia, South Africa or India; indeed, against major opposition, they have only beaten Pakistan on their own soil in a series of three matches. The rankings do not appear to take proper account of how teams perform “on the road”.
With Australia plainly on the slide, having lost to India, South Africa and England in short order, and England themselves having lost more series than they have won in the last three years, the “world Test championship” is by any calculation is a very open race – perhaps as open as it has been in more than 30 years.
This makes a credible means of comparing teams – whether it be a rankings system or a championship of the type Fica, the global players’ union, called for this week – more important than ever, not only to settle bar-room arguments but to give the sport a healthy profile.
Sports that don’t provide clear answers to fundamental questions risk not being taken seriously. Test cricket is in enough trouble already.
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WHATEVER the ICC rankings say, South Africa should perhaps be reckoned favourites to beat England for the very simple reason that they are likely to possess more frontline batsmen in their team who are left- handed.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article6942221.ece :14:
itduzz
5th December 2009, 18:59
A team who opens bowling with spinners reaching top rankings will be travesity of highest order.
pun500
5th December 2009, 19:06
Watching that frustration is more sweeter than the number one position :D
you said it aah music to my ears...
as they say " aadmi apne dukh saye nahi paraye sukh se dukhi hota hai"
translated " man is unhappy not because of his misfortune but due to other's fortune"
:)))
Monsee
5th December 2009, 19:17
A team who opens bowling with spinners reaching top rankings will be travesity of highest order.
This!!! :14:
siddharth
5th December 2009, 19:27
A team who opens bowling with spinners reaching top rankings will be travesity of highest order.
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insaaniyat
5th December 2009, 19:52
I have been saying this from the beginning. What are the Indians afraid of? Shame really...
Because they have 9 lives without the referral system. And they need that to be number 1, and please the billion others
MajidBhuta-AamirFan
5th December 2009, 19:56
Dravid got a life when he nicked it to the keeper in this Test, but he fell shortly afterward. And yes, Dilshan has been the unfortunate one having received two wrong decisions in a row.
But we too have had to suffer such decisions previously. In the ODI series earlier this year against Sri Lanka, Sachin was given out wrongly thrice in a row, that too while he was in single digits.
but still ur players and only two boards don't want don't want review system..
tendul don't like the reviews system, almost in every hin his big innings he was at least one time plumb lbw but sadly umpires are very scared to give him out coz 3-4 times he was given wrong lbw out, one billion people started criticise umpires and most of the umpires think if they give him lbw out their career could be in danger..
i don't think so he could have made more than 15 100s if there were review system there...
the review system the most honest and true system in the cricket ever i have seen in my life..
its really shame thats it's not in india vs sl series..
i really want to see in futrue how many tests india will win with this honest system.
Romali_rotti
5th December 2009, 23:22
Because they have 9 lives without the referral system. And they need that to be number 1, and please the billion others
As long as we reach No.1 by the end of today I am cool :D..
Bublu Bhuyan
5th December 2009, 23:23
but still ur players and only two boards don't want don't want review system..
tendul don't like the reviews system, almost in every hin his big innings he was at least one time plumb lbw but sadly umpires are very scared to give him out coz 3-4 times he was given wrong lbw out, one billion people started criticise umpires and most of the umpires think if they give him lbw out their career could be in danger..
i don't think so he could have made more than 15 100s if there were review system there...
the review system the most honest and true system in the cricket ever i have seen in my life..
its really shame thats it's not in india vs sl series..
i really want to see in futrue how many tests india will win with this honest system.
:))) Keep dreaming my friend. Afterall it's free of cost.
Romali_rotti
5th December 2009, 23:25
but still ur players and only two boards don't want don't want review system..
tendul don't like the reviews system, almost in every hin his big innings he was at least one time plumb lbw but sadly umpires are very scared to give him out coz 3-4 times he was given wrong lbw out, one billion people started criticise umpires and most of the umpires think if they give him lbw out their career could be in danger..
i don't think so he could have made more than 15 100s if there were review system there...
the review system the most honest and true system in the cricket ever i have seen in my life..
its really shame thats it's not in india vs sl series..
i really want to see in futrue how many tests india will win with this honest system.
All those 100 would have came against Australians or more how many times he was cheated when playing against OZ is scarey. As long as he performs against the best of his era I could care if he doesnt havent any more 100's against anyone else...Oh yeah If the review test was there we would have won the 99 chennai test as well catching bump catcher moin khan ;-) ..............
Random Aussie
6th December 2009, 07:38
All those 100 would have came against Australians or more how many times he was cheated when playing against OZ is scarey. As long as he performs against the best of his era I could care if he doesnt havent any more 100's against anyone else...Oh yeah If the review test was there we would have won the 99 chennai test as well catching bump catcher moin khan ;-) ..............
Indian phir ro rahe hain - it never stops
moumotta
6th December 2009, 08:15
Murali is right. Review system should be adopted for all matches without delay.
Altouh if you look at how the review system has been ued fro giving conflicting decisions in Australia one would wonder if some umpires are deliberately trying to undermine it.
Random Aussie
6th December 2009, 08:18
Regardless of the merits or lack thereof of the system it is farcical to have 3 Test series on at the same time when 2 of those series are being played under different rules to the 3rd. But hey it's the ICC!!
moumotta
6th December 2009, 08:22
Regardless of the merits or lack thereof of the system it is farcical to have 3 Test series on at the same time when 2 of those series are being played under different rules to the 3rd. But hey it's the ICC!!
I was away for the weekend but caught up a bit f cricket news on ABC radio and they were saying CA are waitig for arrival of more cameras from NZ to actually make the review system work properly.
Not sure what the real issue is but it appears there are only a limited number of cameras available to make the technology work.
Oxy
6th December 2009, 11:50
I was away for the weekend but caught up a bit f cricket news on ABC radio and they were saying CA are waitig for arrival of more cameras from NZ to actually make the review system work properly.
Not sure what the real issue is but it appears there are only a limited number of cameras available to make the technology work.
Surprised by this - NZ is a small nation and seems to have basic TV coverage - yet is able to implement the Review system without any problem
Romali_rotti
6th December 2009, 11:55
I wont say no to the review system but the guy doing the review has to be someone credible not your Gamini De Silva or Bucknor etc when playing Sri Lanka or Australia etc.
Garuda
6th December 2009, 13:09
What ?? I never knew that some matches are with review system and some are not.
I thought may be the series was already started and hence can not use review system.
This is not fair. If review system is used it should be used for all matches or none.
siddharth
6th December 2009, 13:16
but still ur players and only two boards don't want don't want review system..
tendul don't like the reviews system, almost in every hin his big innings he was at least one time plumb lbw but sadly umpires are very scared to give him out coz 3-4 times he was given wrong lbw out, one billion people started criticise umpires and most of the umpires think if they give him lbw out their career could be in danger..
i don't think so he could have made more than 15 100s if there were review system there...the review system the most honest and true system in the cricket ever i have seen in my life..
its really shame thats it's not in india vs sl series..
i really want to see in futrue how many tests india will win with this honest system.
Instead he has 45 :16: :16: :16:
Monsee
6th December 2009, 13:18
Indian phir ro rahe hain - it never stops
On top of that he conveniently ignores the other test in the series where Indian Phasstest Bowler ever AKA No Moral Victories...was awarded wickets by his sweet heat Jaya :)
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