BAB-E-PAKISTAN, BROUGHT TO YOU BY PAKISTANHOMEPAGE.COM

[suhaib]

NAME: BAB-E-PAKISTAN
TYPE: Monument
CONSTRUCTION START: March 23, 2005
CONSTRUCTION END: September, 2007
LOCATION: Near Walton Road, Lahore
COST: Rs 400 million
COURTESY: WWW.PAKISTANHOMEPAGE.COM

The design of Bab-e-Pakistan would be reflective of national identity, Islamic history and the epic struggle of Muslims of the Sub-continent for the achievement of independence. The monument is being constructed at the place where the first refugee camp was set up at Walton in Lahore on August 14, 1947. Bab-e-Pakistan project would help us remember the sacrifice made by Muslims during Independence. the monument would be a masterpiece of Islamic architecture.



http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/images/bab1.jpg


LAYOUT PLAN

http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/plans/images/01.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/1.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/10.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/2.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/3.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/4.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/5.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/5.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/7.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/8.jpg


http://www.amjadmukhtar.com/bab/views/images/9.jpg

BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF PAKISTANHOMEPAGE.COM

[sajjad]

instead of making monuments why dont they make public lavatories so the poor dont have to go around shitting n peeing in the public..

i feel so disgruntled by the mindsets of our decision makers.

making monuments...***!

[MIG]

Rs 400 Million ! Have they totlally lost it ? Will the homeless then sleep aroundt this monument ? How about simply refurbishing the MinarePakistan ?

when I first saw the topic I thought you meant BABE-e-pakistan |-R

on a more serious note...MIG is absolutely right...Pak is in no position to be wasting money on "monuments". someone please knock some sense into our leaders!!!

[suhaib]

dnt talk cr@p if you dnt know nothing. this will help reduce poverty, increase econmy and boom tourism in lahore.

apparantly suhaib did an entire survey on this topic. we dont need tourism in lahore suhaib, there are many other places we can spend our money on.

[suhaib]

maybe you dnt want tourism, but PAKISTAN does.

[MIG]

easy suhaibonline - atys has just expressed his view which he is entitled to.

IMHO, this is a waste of money - building a monument will not alleviate poverty ! Once the construction is over, those labourers would be back to nothings - Also Pakistans tourism industry is not on hold cos this monument is not built - most tourists dont want to come to Pakistan due to the law and order situation there.

Again this is my view , you are free to disagree..

[Gasherbrum]

hate to say it ... but ... it even looks like a load of poo to me.

[Geordie Ahmed]

It looks like a decent monument BUT its an uneccesary cost! how is a monument going to benefit ppl?

[razzler]

They are fackin out of their minds. Complete waste of money this. Need to improve peoples lifes before building something like this.

[Oxy]

Well if its Lahore, it will end being used as a makeshift Public lavatory!

I argued with SUhaib 100s of times in the past over the relevance and need of such developments when so much of Pak lives in poverty.

Sure-it will make money, but only for those that have it in the 1st place!!

[Geordie Ahmed]

Oxy atleast with the other projects they had the potential of doing something, say a theme park if it was done properly could have helped the local economy but its unrealistic to expect that! BUT with this monument i cannot see how that Rs 400 Million will be returned! its useless and not needed

400 million is a LOT of money!!! you could improve a whole colony of underpriviliged houses with that. If nothing else get enough water and electricity to them!

As proud as I am of being a Pakistani it sometimes saddens me to see the direction in which we are headed as a country.

[suhaib]

Oxy atleast with the other projects they had the potential of doing something, say a theme park if it was done properly could have helped the local economy but its unrealistic to expect that! BUT with this monument i cannot see how that Rs 400 Million will be returned! its useless and not needed

it costs 40 crores and will generate over 50 crores a year. and there are a few good theme parks being made.



appeal till you squeal Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:40 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

400 million is a LOT of money!!! you could improve a whole colony of underpriviliged houses with that. If nothing else get enough water and electricity to them!

As proud as I am of being a Pakistani it sometimes saddens me to see the direction in which we are headed as a country.


do we have another zia-ul-haq here, thank good your not presidant,

[Officer Barbrady]

I highly doubt it can generate 50 crores a year.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Suhaib please explain how a monument can generate 50 crores a year??? i want to know how this can generate the money. as far as im aware its not like ppl are going to get charged to look at it, so where does this 50 crores come from?

[sajjad]

this sucks...
builidng monuments...***

[suhaib]

Suhaib please explain how a monument can generate 50 crores a year??? i want to know how this can generate the money. as far as im aware its not like ppl are going to get charged to look at it, so where does this 50 crores come from?

ever heard of tourists?

ppl will come from all over pak too see this everyday. business will start up around it.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Yeah rite, like that will generate 50 crores from tourists, i do not for a moment think ppl will travel to see that! its one of those ideas that hasnt been given much thought.

[MIG]

The canal/nehr in Lahore needs cleaning, they dont have the money - hospitals in Lahore are in a state of decay they dont have the money but they will spend money on a monument - monument to what ? monument to a monumental stupidity !

[suhaib]

The canal/nehr in Lahore needs cleaning, they dont have the money - hospitals in Lahore are in a state of decay they dont have the money but they will spend money on a monument - monument to what ? monument to a monumental stupidity !

there are different departments for different things,

[Geordie Ahmed]

The canal/nehr in Lahore needs cleaning, they dont have the money - hospitals in Lahore are in a state of decay they dont have the money but they will spend money on a monument - monument to what ? monument to a monumental stupidity !

there are different departments for different things,

what do you mean? so there is a department thats sole intention is to waste money on monuments when clean water, basic healthcare etc etc is not avaialable!

[suhaib]

The canal/nehr in Lahore needs cleaning, they dont have the money - hospitals in Lahore are in a state of decay they dont have the money but they will spend money on a monument - monument to what ? monument to a monumental stupidity !

there are different departments for different things,

what do you mean? so there is a department thats sole intention is to waste money on monuments when clean water, basic healthcare etc etc is not avaialable!

yes that department is the parks and horticulture association, which is responsible to make lahore look beutyfull. water, power, healthcare ahve there own departments.

[Geordie Ahmed]

well a couple of daffodils would have done the trick! wasting Rs400million on that is not needed!

[suhaib]

i can just say a couple of beds would have done the trick! wasting millions on hospitals is not needed.

[Geordie Ahmed]

i can just say a couple of beds would have done the trick! wasting millions on hospitals is not needed.

im not even going to answer the above

[razzler]

i can just say a couple of beds would have done the trick! wasting millions on hospitals is not needed.

You are out of your mind.[Edited by Mod : Razzler Bhai, thora araam say, these are just opinions here, we are unlikely to change anyones mind here, esp those who are about to build this monument !)

[Geordie Ahmed]

*bump*

Suhaib read above and you clearly state that this monument will help the poor

[suhaib]

yes i am talking about tourism here.

[waquas_uk]

they are definetly gone out of there minds. real estate thats cool made by private investors there choice but this is crazy

one day when i go pak i want to see these real estates and these big shoping malls becuase when i went 2 years i seen none

[sajjad]

ur talkin as if thats the taj mahal..

btw my whole company wants to visit pakistan to see that monument..theyr life wund be complete without it.

they ok to facing death....health hazards and an uneducated ppl...for that monument
its ALL worth it. Pakistan will be so successful now.

[suhaib]

they ok to facing death....health hazards and an uneducated ppl...for that monument
its ALL worth it. Pakistan will be so successful now.

this is a joint project by PHA and PTDC, now wat do they have to do with all that wat you have said.

[sajjad]

im not blaming these org's rather the govt for funding these org's instead of the more important ones.

all theyr doing is giving pakistan a facelift...the outer appearance looks good but on the inside...the heart (society norms), the mind (education) and all the internal organs are failing!

[Geordie Ahmed]

Suhaib who are the PHA and PDTC?

[pakistani_banda]

PTDC is Pakistan tourism development corporation and PHA....im not sure.........

[Geordie Ahmed]

PTDC is Pakistan tourism development corporation and PHA....im not sure.........

So they are branches of the government?

[sajjad]

sort of geordie...the govt owned hence they can be called that.

what im arguing is why r these orgs funded so heavily while the important ones are lagging so far behind..like health n education

[Geordie Ahmed]

sort of geordie...the govt owned hence they can be called that.

what im arguing is why r these orgs funded so heavily while the important ones are lagging so far behind..like health n education

Exactly the point i was going to make!
Suhaib argues that Health, education etc etc have their own departments BUT i want to know is why do departments like these exist and more importantly why are they given so much money to waste?

[pakistani_banda]

well.i think i can tell y the medical care and all the stuff is not provided and not funded...............well for basics....medical, eduction ...etc are all merit goods and private companies r not willing to provide them because of free rider problem.......so the govt. has to provide them.........but alas as u know most of our govt. officials r uneducated and vadera type who only care about the money and themselves .....these things r left unprovided.......and as theses officials r uneducated they do not forsee the future and its short comings and waste money on projects which r of no use..........and by the way it depends on how people percieve it.............and the solution is that we need educated and bright people who know economics and all the business capabilities as well.............and who are scared of Allah and love their country alot ..........

[sajjad]

essentially what the pakistani bunda said was

its a feudal society
and all the educated ppl need to help the country...

BUT the educated ones just run abroad...we all our pretty well educate. WE ARE THE ONES WHO SHUD BE BACK HOME DOING THINGS TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

[suhaib]

what im arguing is why r these orgs funded so heavily while the important ones are lagging so far behind..like health n education

Exactly the point i was going to make!
Suhaib argues that Health, education etc etc have their own departments BUT i want to know is why do departments like these exist and more importantly why are they given so much money to waste?

who said that there funded heavily and not the others. There not funded at all actully, do you see more things like this happening in pak, maybe only private ones, This is the first big project i have ever seen from them. there not funded at all. health and education are funded 1000 times more then them. plus projects for tourism will bring back money.

health and education are getting funded, but if you look around most of the hopitals, clinics, schools, institions, etc are being made privatly.
plus now there are sooo many new societys being made in pak, they all have there own schools and hospitals.

[sajjad]

"who said that there funded heavily and not the others. There not funded at all actully, do you see more things like this happening in pak, maybe only private ones, This is the first big project i have ever seen from them. there not funded at all. health and education are funded 1000 times more then them. plus projects for tourism will bring back money.

health and education are getting funded, but if you look around most of the hopitals, clinics, schools, institions, etc are being made privatly.
plus now there are sooo many new societys being made in pak, they all have there own schools and hospitals."

So education and health are funded much more (1000 times more!)...any figures bro and if thats true what r they doing with all the money.

and if education n health r funded so highly why are MOST schools and health inst. built privately?
societies are for the rich ppl. the common man doesnt have access to them. its govt hospitals which need improvement

[suhaib]

who said societys are for rich people. there are societys made for everyone. formanites is lahore is well cheap.

plus bahria town is also sold very cheap, it is people who buy it and sell it for expensive.

So education and health are funded much more (1000 times more!)...any figures bro and if thats true what r they doing with all the money.

and if education n health r funded so highly why are MOST schools and health inst. built privately?


well it just started recently, before pak was 100% corrupt with nawa shirif and benezir but now its come alot down. look for major improvements in the next 4 years. gov. is concentrating on smaller and poorer citys while they are being made privatly in big citys,

[Geordie Ahmed]

Suhaib i think your living in a fantsay world! these projects are all well and good for the upper class, the ppl me, sajjad, oxy etc etc are referring to are the ppl we see in the streets who have no home, clean water or any form of basic living. these are the ppl we want our government to concentrate on BUT these bahria town, malls etc etc do not benefit them!

Pakistan may well be a changed country in 5 years BUT only for the rich.
The rich will get richer while the poor wiull get poorer im afraid! the gap will continue to widen im afraid

[suhaib]

y are you bring bahria town and malls into this now, they are all private stuff. but projects like bab-e-pakistan is for everyone, you dnt have to buy a ticket to go and see it.

[Geordie Ahmed]

y are you bring bahria town and malls into this now, they are all private stuff. but projects like bab-e-pakistan is for everyone, you dnt have to buy a ticket to go and see it.

So how on earth will it generate money???? X) X) X) X)
Thats what i have been asking you! oh and dont say tourism because i can say with utmost certainty that ppl will not travel to see that monument! like Oxy said its going to get abused!


The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

[sajjad]

y are you bring bahria town and malls into this now, they are all private stuff. but projects like bab-e-pakistan is for everyone, you dnt have to buy a ticket to go and see it.

im sure mr commonman will be very happy. even though he doesnt have a shoe on his foot. clean water to drink or a assured meal every day. he will be very happy cause BAB-E-PAKISTAN is there. i can see him jumping with joy at the thought of it.

[suhaib]

The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

if big projects are being made for the rich that doesnt mean nothing is happening for the poor. If you go to lahore there is nothing there for the rich, except a few resturants, all bazaars and other resturants are all for the poor, all the new posh projects have just started to be made now. but i do agree that the rich is getting richer, but that doesnt mean the poor are getting poorer, they are also getting richer and the poverty rate has also decreased very largly.

[Geordie Ahmed]

The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

if big projects are being made for the rich that doesnt mean nothing is happening for the poor. If you go to lahore there is nothing there for the rich, except a few resturants, all bazaars and other resturants are all for the poor, all the new posh projects have just started to be made now. but i do agree that the rich is getting richer, but that doesnt mean the poor are getting poorer, they are also getting richer and the poverty rate has also decreased very largly.

These ppl dont have chappals to their feet and you say they have bazaars and restaurants for them :L? :L? :L?

[suhaib]

i am not talking about the homeless i am talking about the poor.

[Geordie Ahmed]

i am not talking about the homeless i am talking about the poor.

well even the poor wont be going to restaurants

[sajjad]

i am not talking about the homeless i am talking about the poor.

hmm so the homeless arent poor!!!? :L?
makes a lotta sense

[razzler]

The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

if big projects are being made for the rich that doesnt mean nothing is happening for the poor. If you go to lahore there is nothing there for the rich, except a few resturants, all bazaars and other resturants are all for the poor, all the new posh projects have just started to be made now. but i do agree that the rich is getting richer, but that doesnt mean the poor are getting poorer, they are also getting richer and the poverty rate has also decreased very largly.

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) What a joke. No resturant for the rich but for the poor. :))) :))) :))) :))) Carry on with your jokes. ;)+

[Geordie Ahmed]

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

A day on and that posts continues to crack me up

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

[razzler]

i am not talking about the homeless i am talking about the poor.

:))) :))) :))) You are damn good joker. ;)+ RIght so the homeless aren't poor? Makes a lot of sense now. Homeless aren't poor. America is actually run by ISI agents. Rich people live in Johpar Patis. :))) :))) :))) THank GOd you are not running the country. :D

[suhaib]

The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

if big projects are being made for the rich that doesnt mean nothing is happening for the poor. If you go to lahore there is nothing there for the rich, except a few resturants, all bazaars and other resturants are all for the poor, all the new posh projects have just started to be made now. but i do agree that the rich is getting richer, but that doesnt mean the poor are getting poorer, they are also getting richer and the poverty rate has also decreased very largly.

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) What a joke. No resturant for the rich but for the poor. :))) :))) :))) :))) Carry on with your jokes. ;)+


dnt be an ignorant fool. wear your glasses and read again. i have highlighted the line for you.

[Geordie Ahmed]

The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

if big projects are being made for the rich that doesnt mean nothing is happening for the poor. If you go to lahore there is nothing there for the rich, except a few resturants, all bazaars and other resturants are all for the poor, all the new posh projects have just started to be made now. but i do agree that the rich is getting richer, but that doesnt mean the poor are getting poorer, they are also getting richer and the poverty rate has also decreased very largly.

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) What a joke. No resturant for the rich but for the poor. :))) :))) :))) :))) Carry on with your jokes. ;)+


dnt be an ignorant fool. wear your glasses and read again. i have highlighted the line for you.

Now you read again with your glasses! I have highlighted the funny line

[suhaib]

i am not talking about the homeless i am talking about the poor.

:))) :))) :))) You are damn good joker. ;)+ RIght so the homeless aren't poor? Makes a lot of sense now. Homeless aren't poor. America is actually run by ISI agents. Rich people live in Johpar Patis. :))) :))) :))) THank GOd you are not running the country. :D

if you used your brain (if you have one), you would know im talking about lower class ppl, so stop talking out your B=|

[suhaib]

The reason i mentione Bahria town etc etc it is a general comment to you and your posts which are optimistic, im just saying that Pakistan may well be changing BUT only for the RICH

if big projects are being made for the rich that doesnt mean nothing is happening for the poor. If you go to lahore there is nothing there for the rich, except a few resturants, all bazaars and other resturants are all for the poor, all the new posh projects have just started to be made now. but i do agree that the rich is getting richer, but that doesnt mean the poor are getting poorer, they are also getting richer and the poverty rate has also decreased very largly.

:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) What a joke. No resturant for the rich but for the poor. :))) :))) :))) :))) Carry on with your jokes. ;)+


dnt be an ignorant fool. wear your glasses and read again. i have highlighted the line for you.

Now you read again with your glasses! I have highlighted the funny line

yes wat is soo funny about that,

[razzler]

Suhaib I was recently in Pakistan and have seen it that the poverty has increased by leaps and bounds. The gap between the rich and the poor is getting bigger by the second. As for the Lahore comment, yes I went to Lahore this time arround and the same thing between the rich and the poor as Karachi.

[Geordie Ahmed]

i am not talking about the homeless i am talking about the poor.

:))) :))) :))) You are damn good joker. ;)+ RIght so the homeless aren't poor? Makes a lot of sense now. Homeless aren't poor. America is actually run by ISI agents. Rich people live in Johpar Patis. :))) :))) :))) THank GOd you are not running the country. :D

if you used your brain (if you have one), you would know im talking about lower class ppl, so stop talking out your B=|

Hello Suhaib, the whole point me and everyone else are trying to make is about the poor ppl, ppl who dont have a basic education or access to basic healthcare AND you are saying they have bazaars and restaurants caterig for them. do you not realise how silly this sounds?????

[suhaib]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


and you can not just tell by looking at a few people that the gap is getting bigger.

[Geordie Ahmed]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


and you can not just tell by looking at a few people that the gap is getting bigger.

Suhaib this is where you are wrong! the Rich get richer wilst the poor get poorer im afraid! thats the way it is happening in Pak, you can post your fancy posts about all these latest developments THAT benefit the RICH whilst the poor ppl are being neglected!

[razzler]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

[suhaib]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

[suhaib]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


and you can not just tell by looking at a few people that the gap is getting bigger.

Suhaib this is where you are wrong! the Rich get richer wilst the poor get poorer im afraid! thats the way it is happening in Pak, you can post your fancy posts about all these latest developments THAT benefit the RICH whilst the poor ppl are being neglected!

who said the poor are being neglected, i have allready posted developments for the poor, employment is increasing, literacy is increasing. poverty is going down.

[razzler]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

Care to explain what the bolded means in your terms then?

[razzler]

As u say that there is a possibility that the gap is widening. OK so let us assume it is widening wouldn't that mean that the poor are getting more poor and the richer are getting more richer. If poverty is really decreasing then wouldn't that close the gap.

[suhaib]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

Care to explain what the bolded means in your terms then?

and were does it say the rich are getting poorer, are you wearing your glasses

[razzler]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

It shows that you can't read because if the poverty is really decreasing then the poor will be getting richer and richer would either be getting poorer or remain the same (I used poor in the previous example). I was just giving you an example there and it seems that you failed to grasp it. ;)+

[suhaib]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

It shows that you can't read because if the poverty is really decreasing then the poor will be getting richer and richer would either be getting poorer or remain the same. I was just giving you an example there and it seems that you failed to grasp it. ;)+

you dnt get rich overnight, it takes time. go and search on google.

[razzler]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

It shows that you can't read because if the poverty is really decreasing then the poor will be getting richer and richer would either be getting poorer or remain the same. I was just giving you an example there and it seems that you failed to grasp it. ;)+

you dnt get rich overnight, it takes time. go and search on google.

I agree that you don't get rich overnight it takes time but how come you say that poverty is decreasing. All you had to say that the government has taken steps to reduce poverty and hopefully the results will be seen shortly.

[sajjad]

suhaib yaar
i understand ur enthusiasm for pakistan. and i do believe steps r being taken to improve the situation...but such things take time. so wait for there to be more positive results and the conditions to improve and then u can make statements that u have made earlier on...except this time they will be backed up with some facts. till that happens..u have tio be more careful when u express ur 'patriotism'

[suhaib]

the gap might be getting bigger, but does that mean the poor and getting poorer and poorer.

the rich are just getting richer.


:))) :))) :))) What a joke. Are u even using your brain here? :L? If the gap is getting bigger than the poor are getting poor and the richer are getting more richer. It would be closing if the poor were getting richer and richer getting poorer. Please continue with you jokes. They are providing a great deal of laughs to me. ;)+ :))) :))) :)))

who said the rich are getting poorer, once again you show you cant read. continue laughting like a donkey.

It shows that you can't read because if the poverty is really decreasing then the poor will be getting richer and richer would either be getting poorer or remain the same. I was just giving you an example there and it seems that you failed to grasp it. ;)+

you dnt get rich overnight, it takes time. go and search on google.

I agree that you don't get rich overnight it takes time but how come you say that poverty is decreasing. All you had to say that the government has taken steps to reduce poverty and hopefully the results will be seen shortly.


the results have been seen. poverty has come down by a big amount in the last 5 years.

[Nakhuda]

Monuments will not feed the poor or improve the political situation.Sack Musharraf and replace him with a champion like arghh...Rafa Benitez :))

Long live RAFA Benitez!!!

[Nauman]

Subhaib are you sure you are talking about Pakistan here because I have been living here for god knows when but I have not seen except facilities for rich getting better and better and facilities for poor getting worse and worse. The conditions of hospitals are appaling ( I am talking about govt hospitals). What jobs are you talking about? Unemployment, inflaction and law and order situation is getting worse day by day and you say Pakistan will benefit from stupid monuments like these. If half the amount being wasted on this monument can be spent on revamping the already made monuments like Minar-e-Pakistan (which is in shambles) we can do alot better. The conditions of roads is appalling, I am not talking about your road in defense there are other parts of Lahore too.

[Da Sultan of Multan]

all the jobs will go the people who have contacts in the army!! i have got cousins with degree after degree but they cant get any jobs because all those jobs go to people less talented but with the right contacts!!

[Schiller]

what a thread
ha ha
:))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :))) :)))

[Officer Barbrady]

As u say that there is a possibility that the gap is widening. OK so let us assume it is widening wouldn't that mean that the poor are getting more poor and the richer are getting more richer..

Not necessarily./