Karthik flayed for Sachin's missed ton

[abdul2009]

Another instance which clearly goes on to prove sachin playing for records!! Even former fellow cricketers want sachin to score a ton and they dont care if india wins or not!!! :82:

Source-

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/sri-lanka-in-india-2009/top-stories/Karthik-should-have-allowed-Tendulkar-to-complete-ton-Former-players/articleshow/5366336.cms

[abdul2009]

Am I allowed to say ' only in india' ? :)))

[Foozee]

jeez... as if tendu needs more centuries on his plate

[Momo]

Sachin's such a loser. :D

[wajahat]

at least Pakistan's not the only place with unhinged former players *cough* Sarfarz Nawaz *cough*

[Sultan Yusuf]

If teenda basmati was good enough, he would have got the century....simple as...and plus what is the big hoo haa anyway? It's only a meaningless ODI!

[khalil1986]

Believe it or not when I seen the match commentary on cricinfo this exactly came to my head. Don't see karthik playing for India too much more lol

[DHONI183]

Am I allowed to say ' only in india' ? :)))

This truly happens in India only. I mean what´s all the fuss about:boom:? I think it is a huge shame the way the former cricketers are giving such statements. That said, it is true that Dinesh Karthik should have provided Sachin Tendulkar the chance to get a well deserved hundred.

P.S.: Karthik did it with MS Dhoni once as well in Bangladesh back in 2007, post World Cup series.

Another instance which clearly goes on to prove sachin playing for records!! Even former fellow cricketers want sachin to score a ton and they dont care if india wins or not!!! :82:

Source-

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/sri-lanka-in-india-2009/top-stories/Karthik-should-have-allowed-Tendulkar-to-complete-ton-Former-players/articleshow/5366336.cms

Where did that come from:20:? What´s Tendulkar´s fault in it if the public or the former cricketers think that way? He was being very unselfish and nowhere looked like being eager to try and get a hundred.

Good day:19:!

[Afridi_Fan]

All I can say is

:))) :))) :))) :)))

[abdul2009]

SRT asking for explanation from the poor kid karthik!!
Oh dear, i would'nt want to be in karthik's shoes in the dressing room...
What a way to inspire youngsters in the team... SRT? :)))

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1

[161]

Am I allowed to say ' only in india' ? :)))


you took the words right of my mouth :))) :)))

[s2k]

Did sachin said anything???Does anyone has any quote of him saying anything?i guess no.Former players may have their own opinions doesnt mean the team and Sachin had same feelings.

Dont blame anything on a person unless there is proof......former players around the world say a lot of things and create controversy.They are not the official view of the team and the BCCI so before blaming anyone have some proof.

[Vegitto1]

SRT asking for explanation from the poor kid karthik!!
Oh dear, i would'nt want to be in karthik's shoes in the dressing room...
What a way to inspire youngsters in the team... SRT? :)))

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1

A picture worth a thousand words. Looking at Karthik's boat, it doesn't look like Sachin is saying 'Merry Christmas'

[abdul2009]

Did sachin said anything???Does anyone has any quote of him saying anything?i guess no.Former players may have their own opinions doesnt mean the team and Sachin had same feelings.

Dont blame anything on a person unless there is proof......former players around the world say a lot of things and create controversy.They are not the official view of the team and the BCCI so before blaming anyone have some proof.

Lame excuse! you really cant expect a cricketer to call the press and media and say "Hi my fellow indians, I dont care if india wins or loses, I just want to open the innnings and get ton after ton(dead pitches)", can you??

Enough proof as per cricketing standards have been given :62:

[JeeraBlade]

If teenda basmati was good enough, he would have got the century....simple as...and plus what is the big hoo haa anyway? It's only a meaningless ODI!

I have one thing to say about the people making hoo haa;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ELAbUQhCI

[Zaz]

srt didnt seem to mind at the end of the game when karthick seemed to apologise to him

Im sure he wouldve loved a 100, who wouldnt? but i didnt see him kicking a fuss about it

[truth]

Another instance which clearly goes on to prove sachin playing for records!! Even former fellow cricketers want sachin to score a ton and they dont care if india wins or not!!! :82:

Source-

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/sri-lanka-in-india-2009/top-stories/Karthik-should-have-allowed-Tendulkar-to-complete-ton-Former-players/articleshow/5366336.cms
Just media hungry person commenting for getting Media Coverage and getting famous ...

[JeeraBlade]

srt didnt seem to mind at the end of the game when karthick seemed to apologise to him

Im sure he wouldve loved a 100, who wouldnt? but i didnt see him kicking a fuss about it

Nobody is questioning srt's attitude. He would be just fine with the win over his 100 -- in all likelihood but it is the cry babies who are "flaying" Karthick! :)) :))

[Mohsin]

3 days of mourning throughout india and a phainty for Kartik.

[Paradox]

3 days of mourning throughout india and a phainty for Kartik.

:O that sounds quite bad!

[skr30]

Nobody is questioning srt's attitude. He would be just fine with the win over his 100 -- in all likelihood but it is the cry babies who are "flaying" Karthick! :)) :))

by the way is the picture in your avatar from yesterdays crowd?

[cricket_fever]

Did sachin said anything???Does anyone has any quote of him saying anything?i guess no.Former players may have their own opinions doesnt mean the team and Sachin had same feelings.

Dont blame anything on a person unless there is proof......former players around the world say a lot of things and create controversy.They are not the official view of the team and the BCCI so before blaming anyone have some proof.
here is some proof lol, and the pic speaks for itself lol:

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1

and the poor youngster does look scared, and the "little master" is indeed questioning him

;-)

[JeeraBlade]

by the way is the picture in your avatar from yesterdays crowd?

My avatar is inspired by the famous quote from Random Aussie and includes the crowd from yesterday's match. ;-)

[JeeraBlade]

here is some proof lol, and the pic speaks for itself lol:

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1

and the poor youngster does look scared, and the "little master" is indeed questioning him

;-)

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/111700/111778.jpg

If he is indeed questioning Karthick for ruining his 100, then I am sorry -- this is more than pathetic! This is the guy who ALWAYS made big statements about putting wins ahead of records. I guess, he was lying all the those times.

[Indiafan]

here is some proof lol, and the pic speaks for itself lol:

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1

and the poor youngster does look scared, and the "little master" is indeed questioning him

;-)

Where u watching the match live? Stop making things up as u only end up looking stupid. Anyone just needs to look at the history of your posts about Sachin to know your agenda. Sachin was actually patting him on the back after he hit that six

[Indiafan]

If he is indeed questioning Karthick for ruining his 100, then I am sorry -- this is more than pathetic! This is the guy who ALWAYS made big statements about putting wins ahead of records. I guess, he was lying all the those times.
Yeah right. You know who is the one lying, the person who put that picture up and took it out of context. People who wathced the match would see that he was encouraging Karthik after both the shots. All I think is that Karthick was apologising in the picture and Sachin was saying, what for?

[cricket_fever]

Where u watching the match live? Stop making things up as u only end up looking stupid. Anyone just needs to look at the history of your posts about Sachin to know your agenda. Sachin was actually patting him on the back after he hit that six

Oh ho....some body is on fire....somebody is getting angry.....somebody cant take jokes....lol

And i am mighty scared...i will never make a lil joke about the great tendu ;-)

Its not like i am being a racist coz tendu is an indian, as i bash my pakistani players more

and there is no need to pick on the history of my posts it has nothing to do with tendu

[JeeraBlade]

Yeah right. You know who is the one lying, the person who put that picture up and took it out of context.

All I think is that Karthick was apologising in the picture and Sachin was saying, what for?

Just like "you think", the other person "can think" also. If the person who posted the picture, is lying then so are you --- because both of you are guessing. We'll never know about the real/actual conversation.

As far as I am concerned, look at post #18.

[cricket_fever]

Yeah right. You know who is the one lying, the person who put that picture up and took it out of context. People who wathced the match would see that he was encouraging Karthik after both the shots. All I think is that Karthick was apologising in the picture and Sachin was saying, what for?
i hopw you noticed the lil winking smiley in my post where i posted that link where i quoted s2k

[cricket_fever]

Just like "you think", the other person "can think" also. If the person who posted the picture, is lying then so are you --- because both of you are guessing. We'll never know about the real/actual conversation.

As far as I am concerned, look at post #18.

:14:

and your post 18 was a very true post

certainly i was "thinking" but in a "joking" manner which someppl misunderstood :)

[cricket_fever]

Yeah right. You know who is the one lying, the person who put that picture up and took it out of context. People who wathced the match would see that he was encouraging Karthik after both the shots. All I think is that Karthick was apologising in the picture and Sachin was saying, what for?

there is more than one person who posted that pic, look at abdul2009s post no 10

[Indiafan]

i hopw you noticed the lil winking smiley in my post where i posted that link where i quoted s2k

I am sorry I confused you for the OP. He is the one who actually puts posts after posts derifding Sahcin in every thread not you

[Indiafan]

Just like "you think", the other person "can think" also. If the person who posted the picture, is lying then so are you --- because both of you are guessing. We'll never know about the real/actual conversation.

As far as I am concerned, look at post #18.

You are the one who was quick to brand Sachin a liar. I am not guessing about Sachin patting karthik after the six and boundary, its a fact. And about the conversation, I just gave you a possible scenario, i never claimed it was a fact

[cricket_fever]

I am sorry I confused you for the OP. He is the one who actually puts posts after posts derifding Sahcin in every thread not you
:)

Sachin is a great player.....he is 1 of my favs.......and i was only having a lil joke :)

[JeeraBlade]

You are the one who was quick to brand Sachin a liar. I am not guessing about Sachin patting karthik after the six and boundary, its a fact. And about the conversation, I just gave you a possible scenario, i never claimed it was a fact

You are the one who made quick assumption --- without reading my post carefully;

If he is indeed questioning Karthick for ruining his 100, then I am sorry -- this is more than pathetic! This is the guy who ALWAYS made big statements about putting wins ahead of records. I guess, he was lying all the those times.

[Indiafan]

Also the fact is, if he really wnated the 100, he could have easily taken the powerplay. Sanga had all players at the boundary for him and not for Karthik. Sachin did not take the power play. he was more content to see the team home

[Indiafan]

If teenda basmati was good enough, he would have got the century....simple as...and plus what is the big hoo haa anyway? It's only a meaningless ODI!

Then he would have been called selfish and playing for stats by the same people. Now that he actually seems more interested in taqkiing the team home, you coem up with this? He can never win, can he?

[mnoman15]

There were too many overs left so they are sort of right ...96* is shameful for any player ....

[tdigi]

I wanted Tendu to get the 100. He deserved it no doubt. Whatever anyone wants to say..Karthik should have played tuku tuku.

[abdul2009]

i dont think he deserved it! even karthik would have hit a ton there... its a dead pitch

[Muhammad]

i dont think he deserved it! even karthik would have hit a ton there... its a dead pitch

Why did SL only make 239?

[cricjunkie]

Another instance which clearly goes on to prove sachin playing for records!! Even former fellow cricketers want sachin to score a ton and they dont care if india wins or not!!! :82:


Absolutely, former cricketers aka arm chair nobs slating Dinesh Karthik is definitive proof that Sachin plays for records. Am compelled to inquire about your IQ, but have a pretty good idea what that might be, so I'll refrain from the same.

Sachin knows he had enough time to make a 100 if he cared for one. Its not like he missed out his first 100 in a marquee matchup. This is some 46th hundred in a meaningless ODI. The media as usual is making a mountain out of a mole hill. People like you are the reason why media keeps writing such garbage.

[tdigi]

i dont think he deserved it! even karthik would have hit a ton there... its a dead pitch
Oh common man...give some credit.

[Sultanofswing]

Am I allowed to say ' only in india' ? :)))
and am i allowed to say " only in pakpassion" a cricket legend is being put down no matter how excellent performance he display, match winning 96 @ age of 36 n still being criticized, gimme a break, i wish such a gem would have born in pakistan,

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Some people have too much time in their hands. Rather than worrying about India and it's players, how about spending some time focusing on the Test series that's coming up involving your own team. We don't need outsiders giving opinions on our team and it's players. We are the #1 Test team and the #2 ODI team, that's more than enough. But the way some PP'ers keep focusing on Tendulkar alone, looks like their very existence depends on that man.

Never have I seen fans from one country keep drooling 24/7 about a player from another country.

[tdigi]

and am i allowed to say " only in pakpassion" a cricket legend is being put down no matter how excellent performance he display, match winning 96 @ age of 36 n still being criticized, gimme a break, i wish such a gem would have born in pakistan,
This post has redeemed the thread.
http://smiliesftw.com/x/bowdown.gif

[JeeraBlade]

Some people have too much time in their hands. Rather than worrying about India and it's players, how about spending some time focusing on the Test series that's coming up involving your own team.
Yes, you are right. Some people have too much time in their hands. Instead of staying at an Indian forum and worry about Ind-SL, they go to Pakistani forums and have to butt into to every thing (Pak or non-Pakistani).

[s2k]

here is some proof lol, and the pic speaks for itself lol:

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1

and the poor youngster does look scared, and the "little master" is indeed questioning him

;-)

Can we give one of the greatest batsman ever some crdit? :13: :) ;-)

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Yes, you are right. Some people have too much time in their hands. Instead of staying at an Indian forum and worry about Ind-SL, they go to Pakistani forums and have to butt into to every thing (Pak or non-Pakistani).
Neither of us Indians require anyone's Baap Ka permission to be here and participate in discussions. Saj is the owner of the site, and the Mods are there to look after and maintain this site. If they don't have a problem with us, the rest can shove their thumbs down their throat.

[Stewie]

focus hocus pocus.. tish tosh.

BS.. what does our focus have anything to do with our team? We are not playing for them so we can do whatever the hell we want?
:)

Right, guys?

[JeeraBlade]

I wanted Tendu to get the 100. He deserved it no doubt.

So does every player who remained not out in 90s in ODIs and there are 109 of them.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=batted_ score;outs=0;qualmax1=99;qualmin1=90;qualval1=batt ed_score;size=200;template=results;type=batting;vi ew=innings

Did you see fans/media whined and cry about other 109 "missed" hundered?

[JeeraBlade]

Neither of us Indians require anyone's Baap Ka permission to be here and participate in discussions. Saj is the owner of the site, and the Mods are there to look after and maintain this site. If they don't have a problem with us, the rest can shove their thumbs down their throat.


Some people have too much time in their hands. Rather than worrying about India and it's players, how about spending some time focusing on the Test series that's coming up involving your own team.

So, whose baap is going to give us permission to discuss what ever we want to discuss?

[JeeraBlade]

Can we give one of the greatest batsman ever some crdit? :13: :) ;-)

Some crybabies are thinking that this thread is about Sachin --- which it is NOT! He played a very good innings of 96*. These whiners do not understand that this thread about the article in post #1 -- which talks about WHINERS who are CRYING and FLAYING poor Karthick!

[Bublu Bhuyan]

So, whose baap is going to give us permission to discuss what ever we want to discuss?
You can discuss what you want. It's the obsession of people here with a player from another nation which is amusing. Something no fans from other nation suffer from.

[Ghoshtbuster]

Yea, we just cant get enough of Kartik over here.

[giri26]

When you read the article only couple of them have actually bashed karthik for not giving Sachin the strike but the others have been pretty balanced. Gavaskar said that Sachin should have accelarated when he reached 80's and should have taken the PP. Couple of others have said that this is a team game and such things happen. So it is the media who keep creating these controversies. If Sachin wanted to score the hundred he would have walked over to Karthik and told him to block everything and give him the strike.

The fact that Karthik went for big hits clearly proves that there was no such communication from Sachin to him. So this is just a media masala and the fact that this "TamilNadu Player" is mentioned in the article instead of Indian player, says a lot about the journalist writing the article.

[Amir]

Indian's always obsessed with numbers and records.

[JeeraBlade]

You can discuss what you want. It's the obsession of people here with a player from another nation which is amusing. Something no fans from other nation suffer from.

Thanks for the permission, Sir!

I don't know which is bigger obsession ---
-- being a Pakistani cricket and staying at forum PakPassion and discuss what we want.

or

-- being a Indian fan and having 1000s and 1000s of posts here on PakPassion. I do not see any West Indian, SL, Zimbabweana and New Zealand fans here. There are very very very few England, South African, BDs and Australian fans here --- as compared to Indian fan. So, there must be something unique about Indian fans being here.


At least both of us ARE being amused at each other's obsession.

[tdigi]

So does every player who remained not out in 90s in ODIs and there are 109 of them.
http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=batted_ score;outs=0;qualmax1=99;qualmin1=90;qualval1=batt ed_score;size=200;template=results;type=batting;vi ew=innings

Did you see fans/media whined and cry about other 109 "missed" hundered?
I am not crying. I was just saying he should have got 100 and also others who were out in the 90s. What's wrong about a fan like me wishing that for one of his fav players. I was flaying Karthik when he hit the six and four coz I wanted Tendu to get his 100.

I will be the first one to admit that I like it when Tendu achieves milestones. No wait...Gavaskar was the first one :P

[kingusama92]

Sachin played a great knock and his team won that's all that should matter. These former cricketers at times make no sense at all. It seems the former cricketers on both sides of the border are idiots.

Also, this is a Times of India article and they put quotes... I can't believe my eyes. Am I dreaming?

[s2k]

Some crybabies are thinking that this thread is about Sachin --- which it is NOT! He played a very good innings of 96*. These whiners do not understand that this thread about the article in post #1 -- which talks about WHINERS who are CRYING and FLAYING poor Karthick!


where did i whine or cry?

where is the proof that sachin or the team had any problems?

The arm chair base cricket expert say a lot of things.....pakistan have their share of such idiots as well if we start taking them seriously and believing them will end all the sane ness we have in this game. ;-)

[Momo]

Disappointing (though predictable) stuff from Sachin. :P

[Desi]

This is a useless thread. For anyone who saw the match they know Karthik went to Sachin almost right after he hit the shot to apologize and that is when Sachin gave the look in the picture saying, 'Sorry for what?'

/Endthread

[OZGOD]

It's more the mindset of these former Indian cricketers that's the issue here I reckon. Who cares about Tendy's missed ton? He has 45 and will have heaps more before his career is done. India won the match. That's what matters. Why slate the bloke who scored the winning runs? Tendy's should've scored quicker.

[Khalil]

It's more the mindset of these former Indian cricketers that's the issue here I reckon. Who cares about Tendy's missed ton? India won the match. That's what matters.


Indians place greater importance to a Sachin hundred than an Indian victory

[Dare2Dream]

A picture worth a thousand words. Looking at Karthik's boat, it doesn't look like Sachin is saying 'Merry Christmas'

Karthik is going to get luphured and sauteed in the dressing room! In that pic, Sachin is asking him 'You ******* I only needed 4 runs, this is not a race, it is a wait in line for the senior'

just kidding, this thread is way too serious :)

[JeeraBlade]

where did i whine or cry?

Did I name anybody? Here is what I said,
this thread about the article in post #1 -- which talks about WHINERS who are CRYING and FLAYING poor Karthick!

-- meaning whiners and cry babies IN THE article.


where is the proof that sachin or the team had any problems?

See post # 18.


The arm chair base cricket expert say a lot of things.....pakistan have their share of such idiots as well if we start taking them seriously and believing them will end all the sane ness we have in this game. ;-)

Yes, we do bash them as well. With 7000+ posts on PP, you must know how well Sarfraz Nawaz is respected on this forum because of his mouth. Some Indian fans get a little cranky for some odd reason if we talk about idiots on the other side of the border.

[wanted_desi]

Some people have too much time in their hands. Rather than worrying about India and it's players, how about spending some time focusing on the Test series that's coming up involving your own team. We don't need outsiders giving opinions on our team and it's players. We are the #1 Test team and the #2 ODI team, that's more than enough. But the way some PP'ers keep focusing on Tendulkar alone, looks like their very existence depends on that man.

Never have I seen fans from one country keep drooling 24/7 about a player from another country.

Man thats why i love pakpassion, i just love the way some users whinge all the time about Tendulkar. All you can do is sit and laugh :))

[siddharth]

Man thats why i love pakpassion, i just love the way some users whinge all the time about Tendulkar. All you can do is sit and laugh :))
:)) Atlast some one who shares the same feeling like me about Tendulkar in Pakpassion.Bash him bash him.Nothing more entertaining than Tendulkar bashing.The power of Tendulkar is irresistable.You simply can ignore the man.Yay!

[ace58]

Man some people here are really obsessed with tendulkar. I was watching the game live and when khartik was playing big shots tendulkar would have a word with him and khartik would continue playing big shots, meaning that obviously tendulkar wasn't telling him to knock it out, and when kartik scored the match winning runs tendulkar walked upto him and congradulated him. He didn't look at all dissapointed. That picture that you guys are using as proof is ridicoulous. He doesn't even look the slightest big angry or upset at that picture.

[cricket_fever]

Yes, you are right. Some people have too much time in their hands. Instead of staying at an Indian forum and worry about Ind-SL, they go to Pakistani forums and have to butt into to every thing (Pak or non-Pakistani).
JeeraBlade, you are a legend! Thats so right (whats in bold)!!!

[cricket_fever]

Yea, we just cant get enough of Kartik over here.
LOL, Gosht you are such a Buster

[cricket_fever]

Man thats why i love pakpassion, i just love the way some users whinge all the time about Tendulkar. All you can do is sit and laugh :))

lol, no we whine more about great bowlers which India has, which we never had like "Atul Sharma"

[ace58]

It is weird that some people here can find a way to bash tendulkar even after he has played a good game. All I have to say is thankfully he never score a 400 holding up his teams declaration or this place to would have gone crazy.

[JeeraBlade]

It is weird that some people here can find a way to bash tendulkar even after he has played a good game.

Normally, if a person can type then assumption is that person is also able to read. Show me one post where anybody has bashed him?

Let me explain about 4th time in this thread --- this thread is about post #1 where a lot of whiners are whining about Karthick's batting --- just in case, it is too difficult to comprehend, as it for a few people posting in this thread.

[Random Aussie]

Disappointing (though predictable) stuff from Sachin. :P

Would have choked on 98 anyway. :P Not like Lara.......

[JeeraBlade]

Would have choked on 98 anyway. :P Not like Lara.......

Oh, come on RA, please stop bashing him --- otherwise, you know what's going to happen. :D Well, that is already happening, even when he is NOT being bashed in this thread. ;-)

Whenever he gets bashed, a lot of delicate hearts get broken! ;-)

[ace58]

Normally, if a person can type then assumption is that person is also able to read. Show me one post where anybody has bashed him?

Let me explain about 4th time in this thread --- this thread is about post #1 where a lot of whiners are whining about Karthick's batting --- just in case, it is too difficult to comprehend, as it for a few people posting in this thread.

A person is bashing tendulkar (in a rather obsessive manner) when you take a picture of tendulkar and imeadiatly assume that he is being critical of kartik of ruining his century when their visably no evidence of him being upset or angry at all. Its the same kind of unhealthy obsession that people have of him when they spend countless hours looking for obscure stats on proving their point that he is overated despite the fact that other great players like richard, warne, ponting, mgrath, lara, bradman, waugh, donald ect all consider him to be amongst the 5 batsman of all time.

[Cracket]

Rubbish article. Tendulkar wasn't bothered by it and it doesn't matter, play to win first.

[cricket_fever]

Oh, come on RA, please stop bashing him --- otherwise, you know what's going to happen. :D Well, that is already happening, even when he is NOT being bashed in this thread. ;-)

Whenever he gets bashed, a lot of delicate hearts get broken! ;-)
oh yes, and some hearts are worn in sleeves

[JeeraBlade]

A person is bashing tendulkar (in a rather obsessive manner) when you take a picture of tendulkar and imeadiatly assume that he is being critical of kartik of ruining his century when their visably no evidence of him being upset or angry at all. Its the same kind of unhealthy obsession that people have of him when they spend countless hours looking for obscure stats on proving their point that he is overated despite the fact that other great players like richard, warne, ponting, mgrath, lara, bradman, waugh, donald ect all consider him to be amongst the 5 batsman of all time.

We have already discussed obsessions in post #58. ;-)

[JeeraBlade]

oh yes, and some hearts are worn in sleeves

:))

[ace58]

We have already discussed obsessions in post #58. ;-)

Hopefully I don't come any where near 1,000 post because I gennerally don't have time to come on forums and usually am only on them when I have absolutly nothing better to do (I generally dont even have time to watch cricket), regardless my original post was being critical of people who where making baseless assumtions that tendulkar was angry at kartik based on a picture and it was similiar to the kind of obsession that people have with tendulkar that I have seen here. Their was a topic that was so many pages long about tendulkar and people where coming up with all kinds of obscure stats to try and justify their fealing of tendulkar. You could tell they spend an uhealthy amount of time thinking about tendulkar like paranoid conspiracy theorists who think that someone is constantly watching them. I kind of feal sorry for them, and I am not even saying that to be a jerk.

[Cracket]

Hopefully I don't come any where near 1,000 post because I gennerally don't have time to come on forums and usually am only on them when I have absolutly nothing better to do (I generally dont even have time to watch cricket), regardless my original post was being critical of people who where making baseless assumtions that tendulkar was angry at kartik based on a picture and it was similiar to the kind of obsession that people have with tendulkar that I have seen here. Their was a topic that was so many pages long about tendulkar and people where coming up with all kinds of obscure stats to try and justify their fealing of tendulkar. You could tell they spend an uhealthy amount of time thinking about tendulkar like paranoid conspiracy theorists who think that someone is constantly watching them. I kind of feal sorry for them, and I am not even saying that to be a jerk.


You're just wasting time typing so much dude..not worth it.

[JeeraBlade]

You're just wasting time typing so much dude..not worth it.
Welcome to PakPassion, Cracket! I am sure you'll have quality time here --- like your other fellow countrymen! :)

[90MPH]

I feel sorry for Karthick. I won't be suprised if he misses the next game.

I bet Tendu won't speak to him ever again.

[Alibhai]

You guys are missing something very important.

The "win" wasn't on the line. [U] There were multiple wickets and multiple overs left. To say that he's putting himself ahead of "the team" or "wins" shows your immaturity and irrationally myopic hatred for Tendulkar.

Hopefully all of you making fun of him know enough about the game of cricket to understand that - at worst - he's putting his own runs ahead of Karthik b/c the win was in the bag.

Hardly a big offense by the 'lil shrimp.

[lil saeed anwar]

:))) :))) :))) :))) the lil master goT OWNED ! :))) :)))

[Random Aussie]

Lol 2 Tendy threads going simultaneously....not sure which one to play in.

[insaaniyat]

Karthik made a blunder for not letting Tendu score another useless century. I doubt, he will ever play for India again:) Did they burn his effigy in India?

[umerz]

this man is discussed if he scores if he fails if he scores big if he doesnt score big..if he scores a century if he plays slowly and scores a century...if he misses the century and what not...nice discussion keep up the good work...i will continue to contribute

[Indiafan]

Would have choked on 98 anyway. :P Not like Lara.......

Thats worthy of another thread in itself

[Sheikh]

Would have choked on 98 anyway. :P Not like Lara.......
:)))

[Desi]

Man some people here are really obsessed with tendulkar. I was watching the game live and when khartik was playing big shots tendulkar would have a word with him and khartik would continue playing big shots, meaning that obviously tendulkar wasn't telling him to knock it out, and when kartik scored the match winning runs tendulkar walked upto him and congradulated him. He didn't look at all dissapointed. That picture that you guys are using as proof is ridicoulous. He doesn't even look the slightest big angry or upset at that picture.
This.

Anyone who watched it saw an attempt of an apology from Dinesh to Tendulkar, and Tendulkar reacted with a '*** are you saying sorry for' kind of look. This thread is a joke and a waste.

[easy_like_sunday]

you are on a pakistan website if you dont want our opinions head out

[Bublu Bhuyan]

you are on a pakistan website if you dont want our opinions head out
Unfortunately you aren't the owner of this site, Saj is. He'll let us know if he has any problems.

[easy_like_sunday]

talk about teacher pet @bublu !GReat example of a indian Top man lolz

[OZGOD]

you are on a pakistan website if you dont want our opinions head out

Mate, pull your head in. Bublu's a decent bloke and a respected member around here. The beauty of this forum is that while it's Pak centric it allows for the expression of a variety of viewpoints from people all around the place as long as they don't act like tools or mongs. Bublu's just putting his 2c in same as you.

Now let's get back to talking about how India tends to place individual milestones ahead of wins. :D

[easy_like_sunday]

Mate i aint here to give ppl brownie points,the fact is you go on to another forum and indian one they are very biased and dont even let you say anything postive about pakistan,the forum is run properley and i respect that and if we need to get our points across like they do on theres.Well respected ok i aint knocking him i have been around for longer than him but dont post that much does that make them more respected than me ??

[tdigi]

Mate, pull your head in. Bublu's a decent bloke and a respected member around here. The beauty of this forum is that while it's Pak centric it allows for the expression of a variety of viewpoints from people all around the place as long as they don't act like tools or mongs. Bublu's just putting his 2c in same as you.

:14:

Now let's get back to talking about how India tends to place individual milestones ahead of wins. :D

Yes I definitely wanted Tendu to get the 100. It makes me happy when he reaches milestones.

[Romali_rotti]

Damn Sachin came soooo close,wish he got his 100.... Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gollum]

Yes I definitely wanted Tendu to get the 100. It makes me happy when he reaches milestones.

What makes Indian fans happier: Tendu reaching milestones or India winning? Its hard to judge looking at this thread.

[Bublu Bhuyan]

What makes Indian fans happier: Tendu reaching milestones or India winning? Its hard to judge looking at this thread.
When both happens at the same time.

[abdul2009]

Mate i aint here to give ppl brownie points,the fact is you go on to another forum and indian one they are very biased and dont even let you say anything postive about pakistan,the forum is run properley and i respect that and if we need to get our points across like they do on theres.Well respected ok i aint knocking him i have been around for longer than him but dont post that much does that make them more respected than me ??


Spot on mate.... I agree :14: , talk about ICF... they dont even use the word pakistan.. all they use is pakis, padosis, beggars, afRETARD for afridi all kinds of ******** you can imagine!!
To me its a seriously racist site!

[tdigi]

When both happens at the same time.
There he said it. Obviously a team win is more important but a Tendu win makes it more enjoyable. I don't know why...it just does :D

[Bublu Bhuyan]

There he said it. Obviously a team win is more important but a Tendu win makes it more enjoyable. I don't know why...it just does :D
:) Ok, now let's just stop bumping this thread.

[tdigi]

Spot on mate.... I agree :14: , talk about ICF... they dont even use the word pakistan.. all they use is pakis, padosis, beggars, afRETARD for afridi all kinds of ******** you can imagine!!
To me its a seriously racist site!
I share the sentiments and I do feel ICF has abusive language. I did make a thread about this there:
http://tinyurl.com/ybd7jtw

[Yaser]

interesting point they make about Pakistani poster on *****************.com - there are far more active Indian users on here though.

[abdul2009]

I share the sentiments and I do feel ICF has abusive language. I did make a thread about this there:
http://tinyurl.com/ybd7jtw


Thats good of you... atleast we have a sane indian here!
Now I can see why you have survived here for so long? :)

[singh]

Man thats why i love pakpassion, i just love the way some users whinge all the time about Tendulkar. All you can do is sit and laugh :))



well said... :14: :14:

me tooo :))) :))) :)))

[bantu]

Whether tendulkar hit a century or not this thread has hit a century............... :14:

What is important Indian win or sachin ton to an indian fan?Obviously indian win >>>>> sachin ton, but ideally both at the same time and that was a possibility in that match.....that's why the reaction

I saw the whole match and my reaction was karthick should have allowed sachin his landmark.there was no hurry and enough overs left. But I also think sachin should have taken the batting powerplay to speed things a bit.
Sachin didn't seem to mind missing the ton though.Karthick looked distraught. Tendulkar looked like saying why are u upset? in that picture..

[truth]

Spot on mate.... I agree :14: , talk about ICF... they dont even use the word pakistan.. all they use is pakis, padosis, beggars, afRETARD for afridi all kinds of ******** you can imagine!!
To me its a seriously racist site!
Have u visted there mate ???

[Random Aussie]

See the point about PP is that is the best cricket forum on the web. That's why most of us neutrals are here. Whether other sites are pathetic and don't allow other points of view should be fine by PP, makes for more visitors here.

The Indian crew on here know they will cop a bit from their Pakistan friends (and their new Australian friends post Sydney :D) but respect to them for posting in an open forum and contributing to the discussion.

The focus on milestones and records for one particular player is a bit disturbing but the other side of the coin is that India do play a lot of meaningless matches on flat tracks so maybe the milestones are what draws the interest.

I am being way too mellow this morning, must go flame someone....

[Yaser]

well said... :14: :14:

me tooo :))) :))) :)))
keep the traffic up guys :akhtar

[OZGOD]

Mate i aint here to give ppl brownie points,the fact is you go on to another forum and indian one they are very biased and dont even let you say anything postive about pakistan,the forum is run properley and i respect that and if we need to get our points across like they do on theres.Well respected ok i aint knocking him i have been around for longer than him but dont post that much does that make them more respected than me ??

There's no point comparing this forum with ICF or those other forums out there, that's why you'll find that there it's mainly Indians talking amongst themselves about themselves, while here we have not only Pakistanis, but Indians, Ozzies, Saffers, Poms, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans and even a Kiwi and a West Indian or two talking not just about Pakistan cricket which will always be the dominant topic, but about cricket as a whole, because that's what we all are first and foremost. Pretty much the whole cricket family. There's no comparison.

As for well respected, generally respect comes from participation rather than longevity. Of course there's innate respect one person has towards another, but on the net we tend to build images of people based on what they say and do that we can see. That was my point. Certainly not suggesting your posts are worthy of less respect. Post more mate. We'd love to hear from you. :)

[JeeraBlade]

As for well respected, generally respect comes from participation rather than longevity.

--- and people blame me for bashing Sachin! :P

[fawdu]

SRT asking for explanation from the poor kid karthik!!
Oh dear, i would'nt want to be in karthik's shoes in the dressing room...
What a way to inspire youngsters in the team... SRT? :)))

http://www.cricinfo.com/indvsl2009/content/image/440662.html?page=1



“I wanted Sachin to get to his century,” said Karthik. “When two runs were needed, I wanted to give the strike to him and let him get to his ton with a boundary. But Malinga bowled one on my pads and I instinctively flicked that ball to fine leg. The moment I touched that ball, I knew it was a boundary.”

But fortunately for the youngster, Sachin chose to take the pragmatic approach. “After the match, Sachin shook hands and said, ‘DK no worries; our team has won an important match and that is the most satisfying thing for me. Personal goals have lesser meaning,’ and I was truly relieved. Sachin Tendulkar is such a total team man,” Karthik said.

Karthik also lavished praise on Ravindra Jadeja, who took four wickets to restrict Sri Lanka to a low total. “Ravindra bowled a beauty in his very first over to take a wicket; that too of well-settled batsman batting on 70 odd. He grew in confidence after that wicket. He was getting good turn and his arm ball was also quite effective. His four-wicket haul turned the game in our favor” Karthik added.

The five match series next moves to Kolkata for the penultimate game at the Eden Gardens. “We will try to play even better and wrap up the series in Kolkata itself. Senior players in the side have all told us about the experience of playing at the Eden Garden and we are all looking forward to it,” he signed off enthusiastically.

http://mumbaimirror.com/article/59/2009122420091224024819176639a4f04/I-wanted-Sachin-to-get-to-his-century-but.html

[insaaniyat]

Mate, pull your head in. Bublu's a decent bloke and a respected member around here. The beauty of this forum is that while it's Pak centric it allows for the expression of a variety of viewpoints from people all around the place as long as they don't act like tools or mongs. Bublu's just putting his 2c in same as you.

Now let's get back to talking about how India tends to place individual milestones ahead of wins. :D
Now I have no doubt Bablu is a great person:) But once in a while, Bablu could say something nice about Pakistan team or batsman:). Even the fact get stretched the wrong way by Bablu, unless it is Tendu:)

[insaaniyat]

Whether tendulkar hit a century or not this thread has hit a century............... :14:

What is important Indian win or sachin ton to an indian fan?Obviously indian win >>>>> sachin ton, but ideally both at the same time and that was a possibility in that match.....that's why the reaction

I saw the whole match and my reaction was karthick should have allowed sachin his landmark.there was no hurry and enough overs left. But I also think sachin should have taken the batting powerplay to speed things a bit.
Sachin didn't seem to mind missing the ton though.Karthick looked distraught. Tendulkar looked like saying why are u upset? in that picture..
Bantu most Indian prefer Tendu's ton than the wins. If that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be bragging about Tendu's centruries, because most of them resulted in India's loss.

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Bantu most Indian prefer Tendu's ton than the wins. If that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be bragging about Tendu's centruries, because most of them resulted in India's loss.
:))) It's better to check the facts rather than making a fool out of oneself.

[saqlain]

I dont understand why everyone on this forum loves to jump on the bandwagon against Sachin. First, the former Indian players who were mentioned in the news story were giving their opinion. I totally agree with them that karthic should have given the strike to Sachin. India was going to win the match no matter what.

Everyone who says that Sachin only plays for records is simply making unjust comments. Everyone one plays for a legacy in this sport. You know today is ur day and tomorrow it would be someone else's. There is a reason why we all talk about Bradman, Warne, Akram, and others who have earned a name in this game. Tell me someone who is still very much talked about and was a below par player, I am sure there isnt any.

Most of us are upset because we dont want an Indian to have all the batting records. Which is totally understandable. At times, I wanted Miadad, Inzi and Afridi making all the world records. I am sure they would have if they could.

[insaaniyat]

:))) It's better to check the facts rather than making a fool out of oneself.
:) did you?

[Bublu Bhuyan]

:) did you?
I have done way before, that's the reason I'm laughing at your foolish comments. Anyway, the last paragraph of the post above yours aptly describes you and your likes.

[insaaniyat]

I have done way before, that's the reason I'm laughing at your foolish comments. Anyway, the last paragraph of the post above yours aptly describes you and your likes.
Now Bablu no need to get personal yaar, You are a good post here:) ok. I still like you, even though we disagree on Tendu's issue.

[Random Aussie]

http://mumbaimirror.com/article/59/2009122420091224024819176639a4f04/I-wanted-Sachin-to-get-to-his-century-but.html

Wow getting a team mate to lie to the media to cover for him. Shame Sachin, shame.

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Now Bablu no need to get personal yaar, You are a good post here:) ok. I still like you, even though we disagree on Tendu's issue.
When did I get personal ? Did I call you a fool ? I simply called your comments foolish. Anyone is capable of giving foolish comments at some point. I'm sure I too have made some in the past.

[insaaniyat]

When did I get personal ? Did I call you a fool ? I simply called your comments foolish. Anyone is capable of giving foolish comments at some point. I'm sure I too have made some in the past.
But I haven't. Tendu is your weak point:) I will let it go friend.

[Bublu Bhuyan]

But I haven't.
Then what's this ?

Bantu most Indian prefer Tendu's ton than the wins. If that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be bragging about Tendu's centruries, because most of them resulted in India's loss.

[insaaniyat]

Then what's this ?
it isn't the fact?:) me bad:)

[Bublu Bhuyan]

it isn't the fact?:) me bad:)
Hence my comment which you though to be personal.

[OZGOD]

Wow getting a team mate to lie to the media to cover for him. Shame Sachin, shame.

:46:

[insaaniyat]

Hence my comment which you though to be personal.
I was being mean:) How many wins India has when Tendu scored centuries? Can you tell? Just curious

[OZGOD]

--- and people blame me for bashing Sachin! :P

Participation can be good or bad by the way. How it's interpreted is up to the individual! :D

[OZGOD]

I was being mean:) How many wins India has when Tendu scored centuries? Can you tell? Just curious

LOL http://www.myemoticons.com/emoticons/images/msn/smiley-in-action/fishing.gif

[abdul2009]

Bantu most Indian prefer Tendu's ton than the wins. If that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be bragging about Tendu's centruries, because most of them resulted in India's loss.


Ok now lets put it this way so that we can trap our biased indian fan here...

The highest number of times a country has lost when a player has made a ton belongs to chokeducker aka SRT if Iam not wrong?? :))) :)))

What does that make of SRT??? decide by yourself !!

[uzy99]

haha

[adit_sh]

ah ! SRT missed another one. Dont care aout the meaningless ODI's. These loss or wins will be forgotten but SRT's ton tally will be remembered ;-)
LOL

[uzy99]

why are they taking it out on this poor guy

[pal]

Bantu most Indian prefer Tendu's ton than the wins. If that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be bragging about Tendu's centruries, because most of them resulted in India's loss.

Here is a list of Tendulkar's ODI innings: http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;template=results;type=allround; view=innings

By my count, 10 of his 45 centuries have occurred in matches that India lost. Close to 78% of his centuries have resulted in a win for India. You're clearly wrong here.

The highest number of times a country has lost when a player has made a ton belongs to chokeducker aka SRT if Iam not wrong??

What does that make of SRT??? decide by yourself !!

I'm not sure if that statistic is true.

I don't think the fact that only thirty five of his forty five centuries have resulted in wins for India is a particularly damning one.

Besides, nearly all of the matches that India lost when Sachin scored a century were due to the fact that other batsmen failed to capitalize on his innings or that the bowlers failed to defend the total.

1. India vs. Sri Lanka - March 2, 1996 - Sri Lanka won by 6 wickets (with 8 balls remaining)

India batted first. Sachin scored 137 of a total of 271. Sri Lanka won the match with 8 balls left. Manoj Prabhakar surrendered 47 runs in his 4 overs at an economy rate of 11.75. I don't see how Sachin could be blamed for this loss.

2. India vs. Sri Lanka - August 28, 1996 - Sri Lanka won by 9 wickets (with 34 balls remaining)

India again batted first. Sachin scored 110 of a total of 226. His innings accounted for close to half of India's total as the rest of the batsmen, with the exception of Azharuddin, clearly failed. Sri Lanka only lost one wicket in their pursuit of the total. The Indian bowlers were completely ineffective. Again, I don't see how Sachin is at fault for the loss here. And, guess who took the sole wicket in Sri Lanka's innings? That's right - Tendulkar.

3. India vs. Australia - April 22, 1998 - Australia won by 26 runs (revised target)

Australia batted first and scored 284 runs. In response, Sachin scored 143 runs out of India's total of 250. Here again, Sachin alone accounted for 58% of India's final score and 51% of what India needed to win. The rest of the batsmen failed him, with the next highest score being 35.

4. India vs. Sri Lanka - October 20, 2000 - Sri Lanka won by 5 wickets (with 37 balls remaining)

India batted first. Sachin scored 101 out of India's total of 224. Sound familiar? He opened and held firm until the 47th over as India's batting order crumbled around him. Sri Lanka chased down the required runs with ease. I think you will agree that India's bowling attack, consisting of the fearsome Venkatesh Prasad, Robin Singh, Ajit Agarkar, Zaheer Khan, and Anil Kumble, was more at fault here than Tendulkar.

5. India vs. Zimbabwe - December 8, 2000 - Zimbabwe won by 1 wicket (with 1 ball remaining)

India batted first. Sachin scored 146 runs out of India's total of 283. He single handedly accounted for 52% of India's final total, as the rest of the batting order could not even take advantage of Zimbawe's bowlers. The next highest score was Zaheer Khan's 32. India's bowling attack then failed to defend 284 against Zimbabwe's vaunted batting lineup, composed of such legends as Guy Whittal, Stuart Carlisle, Grant Flower, Andy Flower, and Mluleki Nkala.

6. India vs. South Africa - October 5, 2001 - South Africa won by 6 wickets (with 10 balls remaining)

Sachin and Ganguly opened with a 193-run partnership. Ganguly then fell causing a collapse in the batting order. Tendulkar carried India to 279 with his century. South Africa chased the total down with ease only losing four wickets against the toothless bowling attack of Prasad, Srinath, and Agarkar.

7. India vs. Pakistan - March 16, 2004 - Pakistan won by 12 runs

Pakistan batted first and scored 329. Tendulkar single handedly gave India a fighting chance with his 141-run century. The next highest scorer was extras. It's too bad Tendulkar choked, because Extras was looking set to win the match with a fine century.

8. India vs. Pakistan - April 12, 2005 - Pakistan won by 3 wickets (with 0 balls remaining)

Sachin's 123 runs carried India to a total of 315. Pakistan won the match off the last ball. It is no fault of Tendulkar that Balaji, Nehra, Murali Kartik, and Zaheer Khan decided to take a leave of absence from their usual virtuosity for this particular match.

9. India vs. West Indies - September 14, 2006 - West Indies won by 29 runs (D/L method)

India batted first. Sachin opened and remained not out at the end of India's innings of 309 with a 141-run century. West Indies was set a revised target of 113 runs from 20 overs due to the match being shortened by rain. They reached the total easily. I will admit that Sachin should be held culpable for this loss for failing to appease the weather gods and stave off the rain.

10. India vs. Australia - November 5, 2009 - Australia won by 3 runs

Australia batted first and scored 350. Sachin scored 175 in India's chase. Once again, he single handedly accounted for over half of India's final total and gave India a shot to win the match. It's no fault of his that the rest of the batsmen failed to take advantage.

As you can see, the general pattern in these losses is that Sachin scores most of the runs in India's innings with a century and either the other batsmen fail to show up or the bowling attack fails to defend large totals. I don't think the losses cast Sachin in a negative light so much as they do the failures of the rest of the team.

[JeeraBlade]

http://mumbaimirror.com/article/59/2009122420091224024819176639a4f04/I-wanted-Sachin-to-get-to-his-century-but.html

But fortunately for the youngster, Sachin chose to take the pragmatic approach. “After the match, Sachin shook hands and said, ‘DK no worries; our team has won an important match and that is the most satisfying thing for me. Personal goals have lesser meaning,’ and I was truly relieved. Sachin Tendulkar is such a total team man,” Karthik said.

Fawdu, you are smart enough to know that most (I mean most) people are not pointing any fingers at Sachin and --- even I for one, is the 1st one to believe that Sachin would have certainly said that (in bold above) - if reported accurately.

No Indian posters is talking about the post #1 -- for which the thread started --- about the geniuses who are "flaying" Karthick and you know Sachin did NOT flay DK. Thread was about those guys -- not about Sachin.

Any comments on that?

[abdul2009]

Here is a list of Tendulkar's ODI innings: http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;template=results;type=allround; view=innings

By my count, 10 of his 45 centuries have occurred in matches that India lost. Close to 78% of his centuries have resulted in a win for India. You're clearly wrong here.



I'm not sure if that statistic is true.

I don't think the fact that only thirty five of his forty five centuries have resulted in wins for India is a particularly damning one.

Besides, nearly all of the matches that India lost when Sachin scored a century were due to the fact that other batsmen failed to capitalize on his innings or that the bowlers failed to defend the total.

1. India vs. Sri Lanka - March 2, 1996 - Sri Lanka won by 6 wickets (with 8 balls remaining)

India batted first. Sachin scored 137 of a total of 271. Sri Lanka won the match with 8 balls left. Manoj Prabhakar surrendered 47 runs in his 4 overs at an economy rate of 11.75. I don't see how Sachin could be blamed for this loss.

2. India vs. Sri Lanka - August 28, 1996 - Sri Lanka won by 9 wickets (with 34 balls remaining)

India again batted first. Sachin scored 110 of a total of 226. His innings accounted for close to half of India's total as the rest of the batsmen, with the exception of Azharuddin, clearly failed. Sri Lanka only lost one wicket in their pursuit of the total. The Indian bowlers were completely ineffective. Again, I don't see how Sachin is at fault for the loss here. And, guess who took the sole wicket in Sri Lanka's innings? That's right - Tendulkar.

3. India vs. Australia - April 22, 1998 - Australia won by 26 runs (revised target)

Australia batted first and scored 284 runs. In response, Sachin scored 143 runs out of India's total of 250. Here again, Sachin alone accounted for 58% of India's final score and 51% of what India needed to win. The rest of the batsmen failed him, with the next highest score being 35.

4. India vs. Sri Lanka - October 20, 2000 - Sri Lanka won by 5 wickets (with 37 balls remaining)

India batted first. Sachin scored 101 out of India's total of 224. Sound familiar? He opened and held firm until the 47th over as India's batting order crumbled around him. Sri Lanka chased down the required runs with ease. I think you will agree that India's bowling attack, consisting of the fearsome Venkatesh Prasad, Robin Singh, Ajit Agarkar, Zaheer Khan, and Anil Kumble, was more at fault here than Tendulkar.

5. India vs. Zimbabwe - December 8, 2000 - Zimbabwe won by 1 wicket (with 1 ball remaining)

India batted first. Sachin scored 146 runs out of India's total of 283. He single handedly accounted for 52% of India's final total, as the rest of the batting order could not even take advantage of Zimbawe's bowlers. The next highest score was Zaheer Khan's 32. India's bowling attack then failed to defend 284 against Zimbabwe's vaunted batting lineup, composed of such legends as Guy Whittal, Stuart Carlisle, Grant Flower, Andy Flower, and Mluleki Nkala.

6. India vs. South Africa - October 5, 2001 - South Africa won by 6 wickets (with 10 balls remaining)

Sachin and Ganguly opened with a 193-run partnership. Ganguly then fell causing a collapse in the batting order. Tendulkar carried India to 279 with his century. South Africa chased the total down with ease only losing four wickets against the toothless bowling attack of Prasad, Srinath, and Agarkar.

7. India vs. Pakistan - March 16, 2004 - Pakistan won by 12 runs

Pakistan batted first and scored 329. Tendulkar single handedly gave India a fighting chance with his 141-run century. The next highest scorer was extras. It's too bad Tendulkar choked, because Extras was looking set to win the match with a fine century.

8. India vs. Pakistan - April 12, 2005 - Pakistan won by 3 wickets (with 0 balls remaining)

Sachin's 123 runs carried India to a total of 315. Pakistan won the match off the last ball. It is no fault of Tendulkar that Balaji, Nehra, Murali Kartik, and Zaheer Khan decided to take a leave of absence from their usual virtuosity for this particular match.

9. India vs. West Indies - September 14, 2006 - West Indies won by 29 runs (D/L method)

India batted first. Sachin opened and remained not out at the end of India's innings of 309 with a 141-run century. West Indies was set a revised target of 113 runs from 20 overs due to the match being shortened by rain. They reached the total easily. I will admit that Sachin should be held culpable for this loss for failing to appease the weather gods and stave off the rain.

10. India vs. Australia - November 5, 2009 - Australia won by 3 runs

Australia batted first and scored 350. Sachin scored 175 in India's chase. Once again, he single handedly accounted for over half of India's final total and gave India a shot to win the match. It's no fault of his that the rest of the batsmen failed to take advantage.

As you can see, the general pattern in these losses is that Sachin scores most of the runs in India's innings with a century and either the other batsmen fail to show up or the bowling attack fails to defend large totals. I don't think the losses cast Sachin in a negative light so much as they do the failures of the rest of the team.


ok , so here we have our good friend saying that his 10 tons (need to cross check as i think it could be more?) were useless as india went on to lose those matches!

10 losing tons for sachin, can anyone confirm this is the highest by any player? :13:

[fawdu]

Ok now lets put it this way so that we can trap our biased indian fan here...

The highest number of times a country has lost when a player has made a ton belongs to chokeducker aka SRT if Iam not wrong?? :))) :)))

What does that make of SRT??? decide by yourself !!

Not percentage wise. 26.66% of Sachin's tons have been scored in losses.

If that makes one a choker, then I guess Inzi ( 30 % centuries in losses ) and Miandad ( 37.5 %) are bigger chokers.

[fawdu]

Fawdu, you are smart enough to know that most (I mean most) people are not pointing any fingers at Sachin and

But not all.

--- even I for one, is the 1st one to believe that Sachin would have certainly said that (in bold above) - if reported accurately.

One can hear Sachin telling Karthik to play normal cricket during the match.
This report is consistent with that recording.


No Indian posters is talking about the post #1 -- for which the thread started --- about the geniuses who are "flaying" Karthick and you know Sachin did NOT flay DK. Thread was about those guys -- not about Sachin.

Any comments on that?

Only Bapu Nadkarni criticized Karthik. And that was unwarranted.

[abdul2009]

Not percentage wise. 26.66% of Sachin's tons have been scored in losses.

If that makes one a choker, then I guess Inzi ( 30 % centuries in losses ) and Miandad ( 37.5 %) are bigger chokers.


dont deviate the topic now to percentages mate!!

Sachin holds the record for most number of tons for a losing cause! :)))
any answers for that?

[fawdu]

dont deviate the topic now to percentages mate!!

Sachin holds the record for most number of tons for a losing cause! :)))



Akin to saying since Bradman scored more ducks than Ironmonger, the latter was the better batsman.


any answers for that?

Because he can score when others cannot. And he has the record for most centuries in wins as well.

[Top Edge]

dont deviate the topic now to percentages mate!!

Sachin holds the record for most number of tons for a losing cause! :)))
any answers for that?

Then acc to your calculation , Gavaskar and Kapil are better odi batsman than Tendulkar , because all of their centuries , came in a winning cause . So what if both of them hit just one century . :14:

[wanted_desi]

I LOOOVe It :pkflag

[abdul2009]

Then acc to your calculation , Gavaskar and Kapil are better odi batsman than Tendulkar , because all of their centuries , came in a winning cause . So what if both of them hit just one century . :14:


Not saying sachin is lesser than so and so..
but these stats clearly indicate that sachin aint a genuine match winner like ponting or jaya!

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Not saying sachin is lesser than so and so..
but these stats clearly indicate that sachin aint a genuine match winner like ponting or jaya!


Tendulkar's 32 centuries came in a wining cause . Ponting and Jaya didn't even scored 32 centuries