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z2_daredevil
25th January 2010, 13:36
NEW DELHI: Terming non-inclusion of Pakistani players in IPL as a "disservice to cricket", home minister P Chidambaram on Monday said there was no "hint or nudge" from the government to do so.
Describing some of them as "among the best Twenty20" cricket players, he said "these players were coming as individuals, it was not a Pakistan team."
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"...I think it is disservice to cricket that some of these players were not picked. I don't know why the IPL teams acted in the manner they acted. But certainly to suggest that there was a hint or nudge from the government is completely untrue," the minister told Times Now.
No Pakistani player was bought by the eight IPL teams during an auction last week for the third edition of the competition despite Pakistan being the reigning world champions in the Twenty20 format of cricket, triggering a strong reaction from Pakistan government which saw it as snub and called-off official visits to India.
Asked whether he thought that Pakistan was over-reacting on the issue, Chidambaram said "well, you see, if no player from a country is picked, obviously the country does feel insulted. But whether the reaction is proportionate or not it is not for me to comment.
"But as I said, cricket lovers are disappointed that no player from Pakistan was picked. I think that could have been avoided."
Chidambaram also said personally, as a cricket lover, he was disappointed over non-inclusion of Pakistani players.
Noting that the government had issued 17 visas to these players, he said "in fact, I am disappointed that the IPL teams, IPL organisers did not pick any Pakistani player."
"...We gave the visas and we have nothing to do with this," he said.
Source: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/5499429.cms
its.raja
25th January 2010, 13:39
Jhoota :D
bantu
25th January 2010, 13:42
Sacchi................
Dr_Bassim
25th January 2010, 13:47
YEah right ...
All of them become indignant after they have humiliated us
How sweet and kind of them....
:14:
Afridi_Fan
25th January 2010, 13:49
We are just not good T20 players compared to Kaif and Martyn. Thats the truth why Pakistani players didn't got selected.
Get over it.
Sufi Malang
25th January 2010, 13:51
Hahaha...Now the IPL management is being blamed from all sides including their own GOvt. Thats good :)
Hooked _for_6
25th January 2010, 13:52
Lets have another Auction and move on. All of us.
its.raja
25th January 2010, 14:03
why not someone from Pakistan buy all the pak players and make a team e.g. Karachi Tigers and send there to play ;-)
cricket_fever
25th January 2010, 14:30
We are just not good T20 players compared to Kaif and Martyn. Thats the truth why Pakistani players didn't got selected.
Get over it.
yeah no point making faces over beiing dropped like the kid in ur avatar lol
srg
25th January 2010, 14:51
chidambaram can be trusted and this decision to keep pak players out must be the dirty work of modi
Oxy
25th January 2010, 15:45
So one by one, the 'IPL Scum' are saying
1) Not our fault
2) Its so unfair
3) We really wanted them here.
Before long, Modi & his cronies will say the same, as will their Govt.
Which begs the question, Who actually made the decision...if everyone goes public & says it was the wrong decision.
How can this scum be responsible for cricket in India.
Arent genuine Indian cricket fans worried at all?
cricket_fever
25th January 2010, 15:47
So one by one, the 'IPL Scum' are saying
1) Not our fault
2) Its so unfair
3) We really wanted them here.
Before long, Modi & his cronies will say the same, as will their Govt.
Which begs the question, Who actually made the decision...if everyone goes public & says it was the wrong decision.
How can this scum be responsible for cricket in India.
Arent genuine Indian cricket fans worried at all?
ie shilpa SHITTY?
adit_sh
25th January 2010, 16:09
So one by one, the 'IPL Scum' are saying
1) Not our fault
2) Its so unfair
3) We really wanted them here.
Before long, Modi & his cronies will say the same, as will their Govt.
Which begs the question, Who actually made the decision...if everyone goes public & says it was the wrong decision.
How can this scum be responsible for cricket in India.
Arent genuine Indian cricket fans worried at all?
Oxy, Chidambaram is very respectable in India as a person and as Home Minister and part of Congress from a very long time and served as Finance minister for almost a decade. He can be very much trusted. Remember he was responsible for IPL being played in SA last year.
If he is saying this then GOI is not involved....it must be only Modi and possible few supporters in BCCI alone that are responsible for this nonsense.
adarsh_bang
25th January 2010, 16:15
there is no doubt in the indian cricket fan's mind that it is the modi and several team owner's who're behind this... government had no objection to their playing in india.....
could it be that the team owner's collectively decided that lets stage this whole episode... snub them in the first round of auctions.. make it look like a political issue and bag em cheap in the second round!!!!!!!!!! saves them a hell lot of money doesn't it ?????
Oxy
25th January 2010, 16:22
Oxy, Chidambaram is very respectable in India as a person and as Home Minister and part of Congress from a very long time and served as Finance minister for almost a decade. He can be very much trusted. Remember he was responsible for IPL being played in SA last year.
If he is saying this then GOI is not involved....it must be only Modi and possible few supporters in BCCI alone that are responsible for this nonsense.
Politicians are as trustworthy as the Pak Electricity grid! They only exist to serve their own agendas
Who knows what his agenda is - I dont know nor care who he is to be honest.
Whas worse than the initial pathetic snub is the way all these jokers are now saying the wrong decsion was made!
Well for me, the correct decision was made i.e NO PAK players in IPL, but the way it was done was disgraceful.
Death to IPL!!!
tdigi
25th January 2010, 16:24
So one by one, the 'IPL Scum' are saying
1) Not our fault
2) Its so unfair
3) We really wanted them here.
Before long, Modi & his cronies will say the same, as will their Govt.
Which begs the question, Who actually made the decision...if everyone goes public & says it was the wrong decision.
How can this scum be responsible for cricket in India.
Arent genuine Indian cricket fans worried at all?
Chidambaram is not IPL scum...hello?? :))
It is Modi who made the decision! Genuine cricket fans don't give a sh!t about Modi. He did not handle the issue properly..and now the media is dissecting him.
adit_sh
25th January 2010, 16:27
Politicians are as trustworthy as the Pak Electricity grid! They only exist to serve their own agendas
Who knows what his agenda is - I dont know nor care who he is to be honest.
Whas worse than the initial pathetic snub is the way all these jokers are now saying the wrong decsion was made!
Well for me, the correct decision was made i.e NO PAK players in IPL, but the way it was done was disgraceful.
Death to IPL!!!
I agree that at the end of day politicians are politicians and You dont have to give the example of tha grid :) but Chidambaram may have a point on this because he is giving statements after accusation from various quarters that GOI is involved.
Anyway what happened has happened now since there is no pak rep in IPL.....I wish PAK all the best for defending YOUR TT WC
Javelin
25th January 2010, 16:27
there is no doubt in the indian cricket fan's mind that it is the modi and several team owner's who're behind this... government had no objection to their playing in india.....I've just seen a flying pig !
could it be that the team owner's collectively decided that lets stage this whole episode... snub them in the first round of auctions.. make it look like a political issue and bag em cheap in the second round!!!!!!!!!! saves them a hell lot of money doesn't it ?????Sure they did that. But then SRK is lying through his teeth when he says he is unhappy no Pakistani's were picked - even though his team did not make a bid. And The Royals coach Darren Berry said Umar Akmal was their no.1 target, but then something "sinister was bubbling behind the scenes" and he was dropped.
See the contradictions in your arguments ?
Oxy
25th January 2010, 16:29
Chidambaram is not IPL scum...hello?? :))
It is Modi who made the decision! Genuine cricket fans don't give a sh!t about Modi. He did not handle the issue properly..and now the media is dissecting him.
I gave my definition of IPL Scum last week
It was basically
Bollywood, Modi & his cronies, The Indian Govt, All the politicians, Shiv Sena & Shilpa Shetty's plastic nose, her fake smile & fake anything else!
Basically everyone apart from you & Siddarth :)
Afridi_Fan
25th January 2010, 16:31
I gave my definition of IPL Scum last week
It was basically
Bollywood, Modi & his cronies, The Indian Govt, All the politicians, Shiv Sena & Shilpa Shetty's plastic nose, her fake smile & fake anything else!
Basically everyone apart from you & Siddarth :)
:))) :))) :)))
tdigi
25th January 2010, 16:44
Basically everyone apart from you & Siddarth :)
2 out of a billion people!!! :D There are other Indian posters too.
I know you don't like Bollywood and its sponsored Modi league to begin with....but I can say with certainty Oxy, that there a lot of Indians who do think that this was not right. Let's not discredit them because we don't hear their voice on this forum. I urge you to not see everything in a cynical sense...yes the damage is done, but some people are trying to have a open discussion and do damage control not because there is a hidden agenda...but in the hope that cricketing ties and political relations get back on the right track.
We should welcome positive comments from both sides...coz these are stepping stones to a better future for all us fans.
edit: It's hard to digest my comment in these circumstances..I know.
adarsh_bang
25th January 2010, 16:52
I've just seen a flying pig !
Sure they did that. But then SRK is lying through his teeth when he says he is unhappy no Pakistani's were picked - even though his team did not make a bid. And The Royals coach Darren Berry said Umar Akmal was their no.1 target, but then something "sinister was bubbling behind the scenes" and he was dropped.
See the contradictions in your arguments ?
look... we dont obviously know whats happened... we can only speculate... play the guessing game as to who the culprit actually is...
plus i was never swearing by either of the theories i presented... just thought out loud...
i would be contradicting if i'd say x happened and then end it with x did not happen... however thats not iwhat i have done... think you can see that
adarsh_bang
25th January 2010, 16:54
2 out of a billion people!!! :D There are other Indian posters too.
.
make it 3 ...
tdigi
25th January 2010, 16:56
make it 3 ...
Indeed and I know there are more :)
sali
25th January 2010, 17:08
SRK and Berry (Royal's coach) are the only two guys who have tried to tell the truth. This definitely looks like some higher authority telling them not to pick the Pakistani players at the last minute due to some fabricated issue. Royals were interested in Umer Akmal and they backed out the last minute....Shipla, you should be ashamed of lieing that our requirements were different.
If you read between the lines of SRK and Barry's interview, this was a planned humiliation and they were told to not bid at the last stage or owners were told that players were not available!!!!
Barry had picked Umer for making the bid...""All of a sudden he was not available. As the auction unfolded live on TV in India, it became evident that it wasn't just Umar Akmal who was in the no-go zone, but all of the Pakistan players," said the former Australia cricketer.
Gabbar Singh
25th January 2010, 17:14
Respectable? Trusted?
Hah never seen these used in the same setence as a politician before.
It's all smoke and mirrors.
Anyway, look what else Chidambaram said today:
New Delhi, Jan 25 (PTI) Asserting that Pakistan will be held responsible if there is a Mumbai-type attack, India today termed as "very irresponsible" the statement by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani that his country cannot guarantee that such an incident will not recur.
Home Minister P Chidambaram expressed unhappiness over the way Pakistan has dealt with the evidence provided to it in connection with Mumbai terror attack and said India continues to be "vulnerable" as the "level of threat is pretty high".
He rejected Pakistan's effort to make distinction between state and non-state actors.
"I don't think Pakistan can get away with this charade of making a distinction between state and non-state...if it emanates from Pakistan soil," he said.
http://www.ptinews.com/news/485269_Pak-will-be-held-responsible-if-26-11-recurs--Chidambaram
This idiot has been barking for too long re 26/11 - either act or stfu and stop embaressing yourself. Post 26/11 he's said several times 'Pak must act or we will do X, Y and Z' and then he's always backtracked. If he can lie about this why can't he lie about the IPL?
Oxy, Chidambaram is very respectable in India as a person and as Home Minister and part of Congress from a very long time and served as Finance minister for almost a decade. He can be very much trusted. Remember he was responsible for IPL being played in SA last year.
If he is saying this then GOI is not involved....it must be only Modi and possible few supporters in BCCI alone that are responsible for this nonsense.
ChennaiFan
25th January 2010, 17:24
Knowing our home minister I don't believe he played any part in this mess. I am sure he has many other things to worry about. But at the end, it is a big mistake to not to include some of the finest players of T20 cricket. The cricketers need to be treated better.
If people lose interest in IPL, it is good.
its.raja
25th January 2010, 17:47
and this is what happens in India after the Home Minister's statement
Shahid,India,says:Now term Chidambaram as another Traitor / ISI / LeT / JeM agent / Go to Pakistan etc etc.......... as most of you bloggers has done for SRK regarding his comment earlier the day! Will You ?????? No... THIS IS THE STORY "Being a Muslim in post partitioned India" I rem a shayari from Iqbal ==== ("jab bhi vatan ko khoon ki zarurat padie", "tab usme hamarie bhie gardan kati", "par kahte he ye ahle watan", "ye watan he hamara tumhara nahi")
[25 Jan, 2010 2126hrs IST]
Ravi Verma,India,says:Dil se inkaar aur hotho pe pyaar. Sirji yeh game khelna band karo!
[25 Jan, 2010 2125hrs IST]
3m,pune,says:"Pakistan PM Yousuf Raza Gilani that Islamabad cannot guarantee that another Mumbai-like event will not recur."
[25 Jan, 2010 2124hrs IST]
Swapan,Mumbai,says:It appears it is only India's duty to be of service to Pakistanis even when Pakistan shuts it eyes to terror export from its land to India. Indian people have been witnessing till date Pakistani's cold-blooded response to 26/11. Immediately after 26/11, the Indian PM and many Indian leaders are reported to have said that Indians have lost blood but it will not go in vain - but what happened??? Is it not a shame that India keeps continuously losing Indians through terror unleashed by Pakistan and during the unfortunate moments Indian leaders shed its "sorrow & anguish"
[25 Jan, 2010 2124hrs IST]
Raaj,India,says:Now, what do you say guys, those who had commented against Shah Rukh Khan, do you want Mr. PC to go to Pakistan and settle there???
[25 Jan, 2010 2122hrs IST]
Jatinder S Hoon,U.S.A,says:Shri,Chiambaram, India security is more important then your bat and ball theory.Stick to your securing the security of country and less to your advice to people who are professional in there field, they are elected officers as you are, do not ever forget that.CHEAP CRICKET SHOTS WILL LEAD YOU KNOW WHERE IN YOUR POLITICAL CARRIER,AFTER IT WAS YOUR PARTY RUN GOVERMENT WHO COULD NOT GURANTEE THE SAFETY OF PLAYERS OF WORLD CRICKET TOURNAMENT, AND NOW YOU ARE FINDING FAULT WITH THE IPL WHO HAVE THAT VERY MUCH IN MIND.
[25 Jan, 2010 2119hrs IST]
mangesh,pune,says:With all due respect Mr.Chidambaram why don't you mind your own business?
[25 Jan, 2010 2117hrs IST]
Praveen,UK,says:PC, where do you draw you salary from? GOI or ISI?
[25 Jan, 2010 2116hrs IST]
ARUN,KOLKATA,says:Lot of hue and cry has been made out of the episode of non-inclusion of Pak players. However considering the fact that the franchises have invested in the teams with the objective of making profit, they have the right to pick/ shun any player. As the game has been professionalized, every franchise would look at the pros and cons of having any player. Besides, how do we expect relations with Pakistan to improve while all the time terror is emanating out from this country. Let's accept the reality that Pakistan and China are India's enemy no. 1.
[25 Jan, 2010 2053hrs IST]
Adithya,Bangalore, India,says:I would suggest Mr.Home Minister to concentrate more on how to punish terrorists
[25 Jan, 2010 2042hrs IST]
bala srinivasan,saginaw.mich.usa.,says:INDIAN GOVT CAN HOLD ITS HEAD HIGH WITH Mr.P.CHIDAMBARAMS OFFICIAL COMMENT.
[25 Jan, 2010 2039hrs IST]
Msing,Canada,says:This tells how these politicians are ? Its not a big deal if IPL didnt pick pakistani players, though they were in the list of players to be auctined. No one wants to get in trouble and why does Chidambram trying to put his nose in this matter, Better if you see Home security and other givend epartments. When our own hockey players are crying bec of issues with management, we are throwing our sympathy on pakistani players for not selecting, Thats SHAME.... There shuld be no Sport or any other kind of ties with pakistan until they stop creating terror in our country. Jai HInd.
[25 Jan, 2010 2039hrs IST]
RAJA,SUDAN,says:I think, there is no need to moot this issue again and again, it is obsolutely depend upon the franchies of 8 IPL teams willingness to pick up these players. What happended on ground is that nobody going to take risk to select these players because of ongoing bitter relationship between two contries, who can? just image that if you are the team owner of IPL, would you like to spend the huge amount for these risky players? everybody wants to install their money where they feel safety. So, obviously whatever done by franches we cant blame that.
[25 Jan, 2010 2038hrs IST]
Ravee,Bangalore,says:What goes on in the name of cricket in IPL is nothing but cabaret cricket! There is more skin at display than skill. This is a fiefdom of Lalit Modi from the stables of the Modi House, so do not expect anything moral or right about it. He gloats about how he has made a monkey of the players, the spectators, the BCCI officials and the entire corporate world which has fallen a willing victim to this circus. Indian government should withdraw all tax concessions, charge marketing rates for any kind of security provided to these jokers... in fact withdraw all security and let them manage.
[25 Jan, 2010 2038hrs IST]
Krishna,Switzerland,says:We don't want to hear such lame statements from a responsible minister.
[25 Jan, 2010 2038hrs IST]
Biswajit,Delhi,says:It seems Mr Chidambaram have not lost any one near or dear since last 6 decades to pak organized terrorism...
[25 Jan, 2010 2032hrs IST]
Manmohan,CHD,says:People need to grow up on both sides. None has won the war with war. If you have any doubt, check history books. IPL should have picked Pak players.
[25 Jan, 2010 2029hrs IST]
Prof. Ramesh Sinha, Freelancer,New Delhi,says:Disappointment of PC for non-inclusion of Pak players in the third IPL is genuine. In fact the government as a whole did not know what was going on during the auction session nor there was any reason to interfere for no obvious reason. Now that the moment is gone for now, there is no way left for any one but to get dissatisfied and repent over it.
[25 Jan, 2010 2026hrs IST]
Ahsan,Karachi,Pakistan ,says:Really appreciate Your Statement ...Gud to hear that
[25 Jan, 2010 2025hrs IST]
Brij Khar,Dehradun,says:Why is Home Minister being touchy about IPL? The point is not whether GOI did or did not influnence the IPL decision. It is all about freedom in a market place and in that context IPL(a private commercial eneterprise) has every right to choose the players they want.It is pointless to cry foul. Better focus on your Job Mr Chidambaram, you don't need to react.
[25 Jan, 2010 2024hrs IST]
Amarendra,Kuala Lumpur,says:Why this is becoming such a big issue? Media persons, politicians, thare are lot many other problem which worth more attention than this. Few pakis are out of a tournament and it is a decision of the owners of the franchaisees. don't give it political direction.
[25 Jan, 2010 2021hrs IST]
vikram,london,says:it is really funny. Indian home minister is supporting Pakistan players. IPL is commercial sport, only frnchises and oragnisers should decide who should play whom not. Not like Chidambaram. Because of him India lost enough of tax revenue money last yr not Having IPL in India. sometimes I feel is he Really have understanding of economy? or just anothe cong puppet to comment on anything. He should have better topics to talk about food prices, Republic Day, china, etc... not on Pak's ego hurt. .
[25 Jan, 2010 2018hrs IST]
Sanjay,Mumbai,says: What's wrong by Mr. Chidambaram. If people are so concerned about Pakis, why dont they buy a team themselves and pick up all the pakis in it. Now he will tell the businessmen how to do business?
[25 Jan, 2010 2018hrs IST]
Sunil,USA,says:Till now we are not able to decide a punishment for Kasab and you guys are thinking of disservice to cricket? Do you still remember the names of Karkare, Kamte, Salaskar, Sandeep and count less others? SRK too needs to some lessons on memory retention.
[25 Jan, 2010 2017hrs IST]
imtiyaz,Muscat,says:This is the most sensiable and valid comment from Indian Govt, very sad, IPl brings politics in game!
[25 Jan, 2010 2016hrs IST]
Desmond,Canada,says:The IPL and franchises should take a special decision NOW to choose Pakistani players for this season!!!
[25 Jan, 2010 2016hrs IST]
Vivek,Verma,says:IPL Committee should rethink. This is not sportsmanship. We as a country donot take steps to erradicate terrorism and attack the terrorist camps operating. Being a growing nation and an example for developing countries, we have some people with power deciding stupid stuff for the entire country. Is there nobody to question their decision? If these type of "fanatics and fundamentalist"
[25 Jan, 2010 2012hrs IST]
Ross,Africa,says:NO STORIES - NO DRAMA - NOT TAKING ANY PAK PLAYER IS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO ALL PAKISTAN PEOPLE "DOORS ARE CLOSED IN INDIA FOR ALL PAK PLAYERS/ARTISTS"
[25 Jan, 2010 2011hrs IST]
Raviraj.Talli,Bay of Bengal (BoB),says:Why every body is so much concerned about pakistani players I just can't fathom out.No pakistani is admitting about cross border terrorism,do they repent un-like our political hero's.Enough of this,for christ sake stop talking about pakistan.We have more issues to be discussed please concentrate on things to do.Even the WCD minister has acted in the same manner after publishing PAF chief image in an advertisement.Our politicians should stop acting to the tunes of pakistan.Cricket is for peace lovers not for a country training terrorist.
[25 Jan, 2010 2011hrs IST]
J D Patel,USA,says:There is no need for an Indian Government official to comment on the affairs of a private franchise and how they should run it. Unlike our officials they put their money at risk and are entitled to invest it as they see fit. !Sad he should come up with this lame suggestion.
[25 Jan, 2010 2005hrs IST]
ManickamV,Singapore,says:Mr.Chidambaram, I have small doubt, You made us to put our head down. If you or your govt. did not take that courageous decision to avoid Pak players in IPL,
[25 Jan, 2010 2004hrs IST]
Oxy
25th January 2010, 20:20
I include the above losers in my 'IPL Scum' list....
Lethal
25th January 2010, 21:02
I gave my definition of IPL Scum last week
It was basically
Bollywood, Modi & his cronies, The Indian Govt, All the politicians, Shiv Sena & Shilpa Shetty's plastic nose, her fake smile & fake anything else!
Basically everyone apart from you & Siddarth :)
:))) :))) :)))
I include the above losers in my 'IPL Scum' list....
:))) :)))
saadjhussain
25th January 2010, 22:10
waiting for some bs from kapil dev now
AZ
25th January 2010, 22:17
sorry, but I don't buy it...IMO it's just the government deflecting the criticism aimed at them back to the Modi crew...who the hell does he think he's kidding.
moumotta
25th January 2010, 22:24
Its hard to convince people who think they knew everything even before it happened.
Indiafan
25th January 2010, 22:27
Respectable? Trusted?
Hah never seen these used in the same setence as a politician before.
It's all smoke and mirrors.
Anyway, look what else Chidambaram said today:
http://www.ptinews.com/news/485269_Pak-will-be-held-responsible-if-26-11-recurs--Chidambaram
This idiot has been barking for too long re 26/11 - either act or stfu and stop embaressing yourself. Post 26/11 he's said several times 'Pak must act or we will do X, Y and Z' and then he's always backtracked. If he can lie about this why can't he lie about the IPL?
And Pak deserved every bit what Chidabram said when the prime misnister said that it will do nothign to prevent simimalr attacks and will not take responsibility if its soil is used for such further attacks. Which other country on the earth makes such an irresponsible statement?
and all he ever said post 26/11 was that Pak should act or we cannot talk peace. Not what you are making up yourself
khizer123
25th January 2010, 22:54
the source isnt working
Oxy
25th January 2010, 23:00
Its hard to convince people who think they knew everything even before it happened.
Facts is facts.
Now they all hide & like dogs they blame others.
Surprised Bollywood hasnt made 'IPL - the Movie'
truth
25th January 2010, 23:09
Hello External Affarirs Minister go and act accordingly to protect Indians from any attacks in future like the one 26/11 ............... rather than gscoring plitical points which our bellowed BJP Sidhu had started ....................... Minister emotions of people in India are still fresh in mind ....................
Oxy
25th January 2010, 23:15
Hello External Affarirs Minister go and act accordingly to protect Indians from any attacks in future like the one 26/11 ............... rather than gscoring plitical points which our bellowed BJP Sidhu had started ....................... Minister emotions of people in India are still fresh in mind ....................
I agree. Afridi & Umer Akmal pose a real threat toyou & your people
AZ
25th January 2010, 23:17
Hello External Affarirs Minister go and act accordingly to protect Indians from any attacks in future like the one 26/11 ............... rather than gscoring plitical points which our bellowed BJP Sidhu had started ....................... Minister emotions of people in India are still fresh in mind ....................
we're talking about cricket, not the emotions of Indian people
moumotta
25th January 2010, 23:24
Facts is facts.
Now they all hide & like dogs they blame others.
Surprised Bollywood hasnt made 'IPL - the Movie'
Fact is Paksitanis were ignored in a humiliating way.
Every one has their theory about whodunnit.
Some of these theories are based on analysis but lot more on anger and frustration.
Give it time. You will see light like Afridi.
AZ
25th January 2010, 23:28
Fact is Paksitanis were ignored in a humiliating way.
Every one has their theory about whodunnit.
Some of these theories are based on analysis but lot more on anger and frustration.
Give it time. You will see light like Afridi.
when will the Indian junta see the light?
JeeraBlade
25th January 2010, 23:34
There were supposed to be 4 big players in this fiasco;
a) Modi
He said, "Owners are to blame who did not pick them becuase they were afraid that players may not be granted visa"
b) Owners
Shilp Sh-itty said the same thing but SRK said he the players should have hired and "we keep blaming eachother".
c) Govt.
Visas were already issued to 17 players.
d) BCCI
We have nothing to do with this.
Bunch of bloody filthy liars!!
truth
25th January 2010, 23:43
There were supposed to be 4 big players in this fiasco;
a) Modi
He said, "Owners are to blame who did not pick them becuase they were afraid that players may not be granted visa"
b) Owners
Shilp Sh-itty said the same thing but SRK said he the players should have hired and "we keep blaming eachother".
c) Govt.
Visas were already issued to 17 players.
d) BCCI
We have nothing to do with this.
Bunch of bloody filthy liars!!
Simple conclusion ............... Politics between India and Pakistan
AZ
25th January 2010, 23:44
Simple conclusion ............... Politics between India and Pakistan
then tell the people involved to be man enough and admit to it, and not keep shifting the blame between them...surely the people of the next world "superpower" have the balls to do that? or don't they?
moumotta
25th January 2010, 23:48
then tell the people involved to be man enough and admit to it, and not keep shifting the blame between them...surely the people of the next world "superpower" have the balls to do that? or don't they?
Till some one admits it you think it is your right to blame every one, left, right and center.
truth
25th January 2010, 23:48
then tell the people involved to be man enough and admit to it, and not keep shifting the blame between them...surely the people of the next world "superpower" have the balls to do that? or don't they?
No they will not thats why I call this as Sub continent Politics ................. it is entirely different from Western Politics ............ there is no truthness/honesty/shameness in Sub Continent Politics its just about scoring points from each other .................
I really did not expect this kind of statement from Chidambaram who is atleast a Law Graduate from a reputed University ............ may be I expected so much being him from my home town .............
AZ
25th January 2010, 23:52
Till some one admits it you think it is your right to blame every one, left, right and center.
our right? the statements are there for everyone to see...Shilpa blames one, Modi blames the other and Chidambaram blames someone else...it's a game of 'pass the parcel' going on, with no-one in Incredible India stepping up to the plate and admitting that they were wrong.
moumotta
25th January 2010, 23:54
our right? the statements are there for everyone to see...Shilpa blames one, Modi blames the other and Chidambaram blames someone else...it's a game of 'pass the parcel' going on, with no-one in Incredible India stepping up to the plate and admitting that they were wrong.
So denying responsibility makes them all guilty.
AZ
26th January 2010, 00:10
their unconvincing rebuttal only leads to that conclusion.
moumotta
26th January 2010, 00:13
their unconvincing rebuttal only leads to that conclusion.
Why is what Chidambaram said unconvincing.
AZ
26th January 2010, 00:21
Why is what Chidambaram said unconvincing.
it's been slightly longer than a week since the auction took place and only after the owners and Modis have said their 2 cents worth has there been any denial issued by the Indian govt...quite a long wait for what could have been said a lot sooner...and in any case, nobody is going to buy the theory that the political scenario between the 2 countries was not a telling factor in the refusal to sign Pakistani players.
moumotta
26th January 2010, 00:31
it's been slightly longer than a week since the auction took place and only after the owners and Modis have said their 2 cents worth has there been any denial issued by the Indian govt...quite a long wait for what could have been said a lot sooner...and in any case, nobody is going to buy the theory that the political scenario between the 2 countries was not a telling factor in the refusal to sign Pakistani players.
I am assuming that he answered a question from a journalist rather than released a pre-written statement. The timing would therefore depend on when some one actually asked him a question.
Political scenario between the 2 countries would be a factor in every thing. But if that is enough to fix responsibility then there are lot of people responsible on both sides.
deathstreak
26th January 2010, 03:26
sorry, but I don't buy it...IMO it's just the government deflecting the criticism aimed at them back to the Modi crew...who the hell does he think he's kidding.
Umm in case no body realized it,
Chidambaram's statement came after Sidhu
Congess giving a statement after BJP attacks it.
That is how politics in India generally unfold.
I doubt if BJP hadnt brought up the matter Chidambaram would have said anything.
he has more important things to do than think about IPL.
We need more spending on special forces and better surveillance and intelligence gathering.
Infiltration is not going to stop in the near future and 26/11 will keep happening.
As for the IPL roundabout which the franchisee, Modi etc are doing reminds me a lot of how the buck was passed after Lankan's disater of a tour. The scale may have been different but both incidences show how deep rooted the malaise is in both countries.
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