Salman Butt- Finally living upto his potential? [Merged]

[*sallu*]

The 2nd or 3rd time I saw Salman Butt batting was un the BCCI Platinum Jubilee match where Zaheer and co were murdered by him.
Those drives, those flicks were absolutely brilliant to watch and I thought here is a man with immense potential.

Since then, he had a goodish tour of Australia but never really got going.
IMO he got himself bogged down, tried to bat too responsibly.

But this Australia tour, hes been a changed man. He sees a ball, he hits it. Even in the test matches. His front foot defense is as good as anyone in our team.

I just hope he keeps playing like this- if he can score in australia- if he can play like this in Australia- he can do it against anyone anywhere in the world

[BA.NBT]

Delete this thread!!, don't say i didnt warn ya later.

[saadjhussain]

:69:

[AZ]

:13:

Balaji did not even play that game

[*sallu*]

:13:

Balaji did not even play that game

Ohh he didn't
LOL
Sorry

Zaheer Played I'm pretty sure

But anyways, the way he played then, and the way he is playing now, is very similar

The in between part was just frustrating where he showed glimpses but never consistancy

[AZ]

IMO no he is not living up to his potential yet, especially in Test cricket...he is a FAR better player than that...Pakistan need to stick with him, he is a genuine world class player and will lead Pakistan to many victories in the future Inshallah

[Amjid Javed]

For talent Butt has overall he underperformers more than he actually performs. Thats why he has such poor averages in Test cricket and in ODIs he seem to perform against a few teams only.

[*sallu*]

For talent Butt has overall he underperformers more than he actually performs. Thats why he has such poor averages in Test cricket and in ODIs he seem to perform against a few teams only.

Surely scoring in Australia against Australia in almost every game is a path to rectification?

[BoomBoomAfridi]

Story of Salman Butt's career..............does not get the breaks! That was a shocker from Ashoka!

[muhammad saad]

Finally Salman Butt looks like he is getting some rhythm back with his cover and square drives but he still needs to work out on rotating the strike.

[choclate]

I was really happy to see his defense and picking the right balls to cut and pull, also he is keeping the ball closer to the ground when playing square cuts or shots to point boundary. Before they used to be always flying high. In Tests for sure he can be a perfect spot for the medium to long run if he performs and picks up a few big innings. Not sure about Farhat though, even his last 100 was a dodgy one but better than Imran Nazir or Ahmed Shahzad.

[cricfan967]

A-Shocka gave the worse decision I have truly ever seen.

[Sledger]

He'll never become a good test player if he can't get off strike. It won't always be possible to deal in fours, which is whyhe's always been poor in swinging conditions, and sometimes you just have to grind down and look for sharp ones and put the drive away if the ball is moving. If he has a good time of it in England I will start rating him but until then he's an average player in a good bit of form to me....

[Zu456]

In tests at least he will be able to occupy the crease unlike our other options.

he is batting quite well at the moment compared to the rest. which is worrying i know

[Sohaib-789]

Deserves to be dropped. has not made full use of his starts. should stick to test matches and be replaced by khalid latif in the one day side.This guy cant even field and fielding is really important in a 50 over encounter as we found out today when clarke got dropped on 32 by yousuf and went on to make 80. pakistan ended up losing the match by 46 runs. (80-32=48) :P

[sali]

Man he was striking the ball well, I have never seen him bat with such authority. I hope he can get a big score in the next two games. Very unfortunate for him to get out the way he did in the last two ODIs

[161]

If the pitches are flat and the ball not moving he will score runs.

But throw in some difficult batting conditions and he won't be going nowhere.

[*sallu*]

If the pitches are flat and the ball not moving he will score runs.

But throw in some difficult batting conditions and he won't be going nowhere.

Well
He scored in Sydney

Infact, hes scored in almost every match, which is why I'm led to believe, hes on a path to rectification.

It might just be that one opener's spot is finally secured, in both formats

[Muddaser]

If the pitches are flat and the ball not moving he will score runs.

But throw in some difficult batting conditions and he won't be going nowhere.

The same can be said for the rest.

Duh!

[Liverpool_Faizan]

If the pitches are flat and the ball not moving he will score runs.

But throw in some difficult batting conditions and he won't be going nowhere.

thats pretty much the same for all **** players plus most of the indian batsmen. heck even the english struggle against swing.

[itduzz]

If the pitches are flat and the ball not moving he will score runs.

But throw in some difficult batting conditions and he won't be going nowhere.

Shhebhaag is a failure in NZ,SA & UK where ball moves..... :butt

[Gollum]

Pakistan need to stick with him, he is a genuine world class player

Agree with the first part, not with the second :butt

[AZ]

If the pitches are flat and the ball not moving he will score runs.

But throw in some difficult batting conditions and he won't be going nowhere.

like Australia?! highest run-scorer in the series?

[PapaBear]

He'll never become a good test player if he can't get off strike. It won't always be possible to deal in fours, which is whyhe's always been poor in swinging conditions, and sometimes you just have to grind down and look for sharp ones and put the drive away if the ball is moving. If he has a good time of it in England I will start rating him but until then he's an average player in a good bit of form to me....
I will give him one thing though, he is not fishing as much, but his still becomes a fisherman sometimes.

[AZ]

a LHB will always be an edger

[Sledger]

What? A Lahore Hailing Butt? :))

[AZ]

hehe, Left Handed Batsman actually.

[Zaz]

hes look good, hopefully he ll do well in last 2 odis and kick on big in summer here in eng

[Saqs]

Well he, along with Kamran, lost us the game in Sydney (2nd ODI)

You can't have a start of 0/6 after 5 overs chasing 268 or so in an ODI.

[tahaqureshi]

He was brilliant in the last ODI.

I was very impressed with him and the way he was attacking the bowling.

He was even backing up properly if you paid attention!

Its like he took every single criticism of himself in the media and improved it.

I love this bloke!

[Alam_dar]

I still in doubts about Salman Butt. He needs to show this same aggressive temparament for the next 3-4 Series.

All is going good for him in this Series, but still:

1. His running between the wickets is still a concern.

2. His fielding is still very pathetic at the best.

[Foozee]

Salman butt is living up to his potential indeed... potential to get out in the first over while putting pressure on the middle order which isnt performing.. gr8 butt saab

[AZ]

Salman butt is living up to his potential indeed... potential to get out in the first over while putting pressure on the middle order which isnt performing.. gr8 butt saab

has a better average and S/R when Pakistan is fielding first.

[Foozee]

has a better average and S/R when Pakistan is fielding first.

lol... 2 ducks in a row.... i like them strike rates :D

[AZ]

34 and 0 = 2 ducks in a row?

[*syed59*]

Dont mind him in the playing eleven given what our batting resources have come to. He, on this tour atleast, has certainly been significantly better than the majority of our batsmen barring maybe UA.

[pak4life]

What Potential? He was overrated to start with the guy has far too many weaknesses and limited stroke play to be successful as an opener. As an opener your job is to set the foundation for the rest of the innings he just cant do it.

[Ali Raja]

Salman Butt should bat at 3, he always departs in the 1st over.

[in_cutter]

..this is what we get for over-hyping youngsters on this forum...we expect alot, but when they fail we are left frustrated and disappointed.

I remember Butt was hyped as a future star, the next Anwar and a cure for our opening dilemma..etc etc

[Gollum]

I remember Butt was hyped as a future star, the next Anwar and a cure for our opening dilemma..etc etc

Forget Anwar. Butt is way out of Saeed Anwar's league. If he can come close to even Aamer Sohail (ODI and Test), I will say a good career.

[IM NOT YOU]

salman butt sucks. everybody knows it.

1st ODI he started off terribly , playing way too slow and putting pressure on kamran akmal. he managed to keep his wicket and play a goods innings, but his dropped catch proved costly and he was still playing too slow for a 300 eque pitch

2nd ODI was a duck

3rd ODI he started off well thanks to some errant bowling down the legside which he just glanced for a couple boundaries. finished with a reasonable score but got run out as usual.

4th ODI was a duck.



all of these, mind you, on flat tracks. if that has somehow made anybody think that salman butt has improved then people are still looking for something where theres nothing.

he will never have a complete command of his off stump and will always be clueless against good bowling / non-flat tracks and also can not bat under any pressure.

[muhammad saad]

Good player but certainly not a good opener I think he is a good replacement for Younis Khan.

[AJ]

I think Pakistan needs Javed Miandad as batting coach (provided Batman is not joined by Robin as well) because during his days Imran Nazir scored a century in West Indies against the likes of Walsh etc. and Afridi scored a ton against India in India ... both in test cricket.

[AZ]

salman butt sucks. everybody knows it.

1st ODI he started off terribly , playing way too slow and putting pressure on kamran akmal. he managed to keep his wicket and play a goods innings, but his dropped catch proved costly and he was still playing too slow for a 300 eque pitch

2nd ODI was a duck

3rd ODI he started off well thanks to some errant bowling down the legside which he just glanced for a couple boundaries. finished with a reasonable score but got run out as usual.

4th ODI was a duck.



all of these, mind you, on flat tracks. if that has somehow made anybody think that salman butt has improved then people are still looking for something where theres nothing.

he will never have a complete command of his off stump and will always be clueless against good bowling / non-flat tracks and also can not bat under any pressure.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff51/Kilberg1/Double%20Takes/bGjfANdAGj9t1y81lIVqe3uKo1_500.gif

[AZ]

Forget Anwar. Butt is way out of Saeed Anwar's league. If he can come close to even Aamer Sohail (ODI and Test), I will say a good career.

I will guarantee you that SB will make more runs than Saeed Anwar in both OD and Test cricket

[McBoom]

I will guarantee you that SB will make more runs than Saeed Anwar in both OD and Test cricketThis is a flimsy argument.

Alistair Cook will make more runs than Miandad.

Thilan Samaraweera has a better test batting average than Viv Richards.

But that doesn't imply anything.

Fact is, Salman Butt is useless and will remain so unless he works hard on his game and cut out the bad habits. Which frankly I don't think will happen.

[Gollum]

I will guarantee you that SB will make more runs than Saeed Anwar in both OD and Test cricket

Sure it will take Butt 70 Tests and 350 ODI to surpass Saeed Anwar. But does that make him a greater bat than Saeed Anwar? The answer is a No!

[AZ]

if he plays that many ODIs and Test cricket, he'd have to be a helluva player then, won't he?! and even, we'll break down into the averages

[*sallu*]

if he plays that many ODIs and Test cricket, he'd have to be a helluva player then, won't he?! and even, we'll break down into the averages

So YK playing 200 matches doesn't make him a hell of a player, or atleast a very good one

Have some consistency in your posts

[AZ]

So YK playing 200 matches doesn't make him a hell of a player, or atleast a very good one

Have some consistency in your posts

read the whole post, that's why I mentioned the averages...never said YK isn't a great player, just not a very good one in ODIs.

[*sallu*]

read the whole post, that's why I mentioned the averages...never said YK isn't a great player, just not a very good one in ODIs.

You said Salman Butt would have to be a hell of a player to be able to play 350 One Day Internationals

By that Logic, wouldn't YK be atleast a good ODI player to have played 200 One Dayers already?

[zam]

I will guarantee you that SB will make more runs than Saeed Anwar in both OD and Test cricket

You have a very good sense of humor......

[Foozee]

I will guarantee you that SB will make more runs than Saeed Anwar in both OD and Test cricket

maybe... but he is not in the same league as Saeed Anwar...

Saeed Anwar is a legend... Salman Butt is a butthead

plus when bowlers bowled to Saeed Anwar, they were scared of him... he had that threatening ability to take apart any attack... plus he played fearlessly

Salman Butt is a walking wicket... anyone on anyday would love to bowl to the Butt, anyone can take his wicket

[AZ]

You said Salman Butt would have to be a hell of a player to be able to play 350 One Day Internationals

By that Logic, wouldn't YK be atleast a good ODI player to have played 200 One Dayers already?

very different scenarios for both...one is an opener, which knowing the Pakistan team's policy of chopping and changing openers at the drop of a hat, for him to play 350 ODIs would be quite incredible...hell it's a massive achievement for any player to play 350 matches for their country

YK on the other hand, has been a middle order cog for most of his career and has been selected despite his shortcomings in the 50 over format, due to lack of options and for the sake of team stability.

[Raz]

As a Test opener, he's fine. Not brilliant, but above average.

He should be nowhere near the ODI team if a player like Imran Nazir doesn't bat with him. Has limited strokeplay, is a terrible runner, is a poor player of spin and doesn't know how to rotate the strike. However, he can hold one end up and if he has an aggressive batsman with him that could work.

[Foozee]

very different scenarios for both...one is an opener, which knowing the Pakistan team's policy of chopping and changing openers at the drop of a hat, for him to play 350 ODIs would be quite incredible...hell it's a massive achievement for any player to play 350 matches for their country

YK on the other hand, has been a middle order cog for most of his career and has been selected despite his shortcomings in the 50 over format, due to lack of options and for the sake of team stability.

by the looks of it, our openers get out early.. that makes YK an opener too against new ball

[AZ]

by the looks of it, our openers get out early.. that makes YK an opener too against new ball

doesn't happen every single time though...and even then, an average in the low 30s is not that great.

[*sallu*]

very different scenarios for both...one is an opener, which knowing the Pakistan team's policy of chopping and changing openers at the drop of a hat, for him to play 350 ODIs would be quite incredible...hell it's a massive achievement for any player to play 350 matches for their country

YK on the other hand, has been a middle order cog for most of his career and has been selected despite his shortcomings in the 50 over format, due to lack of options and for the sake of team stability.

This is the first time in my life I've heard someone say we have a lack of options in the middle order as compared to the openers

What a joke.

[asifp]

Salman Butt should be kept 1000 miles away from the Pakistan team.

He is just not fit enough to play cricket. Cant run, cant catch

[AZ]

This is the first time in my life I've heard someone say we have a lack of options in the middle order as compared to the openers

What a joke.

:))

did I compare the availability of options between openers and MO players?

and yes we do have a friggin' lack of options in the MO, since there is no replacement in sight for the likes of Yousuf and Younis, and have not quite been able to fill the void left by Inzamam...Umar Akmal is the only truly bright hope we have there.

[*sallu*]

:))

did I compare the availability of options between openers and MO players?

and yes we do have a friggin' lack of options in the MO, since there is no replacement in sight for the likes of Yousuf and Younis, and have not quite been able to fill the void left by Inzamam...Umar Akmal is the only truly bright hope we have there.

Okay, then I can twist words as well

We have no options for openers since no one can fill the void left by Anwar and Sohail.

And so, you are saying, that since there are no options and that no once can replace Yousuf and Younis that they should be in the side?

Make up your mind.

Btw, I agree with the fact that Butt is our future mainhold of the opening dept. I just don't like the fact that you support him totally blindly and in the process become guilty of double standards.

[AZ]

Okay, then I can twist words as well

We have no options for openers since no one can fill the void left by Anwar and Sohail.

And so, you are saying, that since there are no options and that no once can replace Yousuf and Younis that they should be in the side?

Make up your mind.

Btw, I agree with the fact that Butt is our future mainhold of the opening dept. I just don't like the fact that you support him totally blindly and in the process become guilty of double standards.

let me break down point by point to make it easier to understand:

- We do have options for openers, we have tried at least 15 players for those 2 positions over the last decade

- the MO however, has never been thought about and that's why now that they are showing poor performances, we are struggling to replace them...if you disagree, please name a few batsmen who were tried and persisted with....and then compare that to the merry-go-round we have had at the top of the order, it will be quite clear. Hence the situation now is that we want to replace YK and Yousuf, but we do not have any clear ideas on who the replacements should be.

[*sallu*]

let me break down point by point to make it easier to understand:

- We do have options for openers, we have tried at least 15 players for those 2 positions over the last decade

- the MO however, has never been thought about and that's why now that they are showing poor performances, we are struggling to replace them...if you disagree, please name a few batsmen who were tried and persisted with....and then compare that to the merry-go-round we have had at the top of the order, it will be quite clear. Hence the situation now is that we want to replace YK and Yousuf, but we do not have any clear ideas on who the replacements should be.

I think you will find a similar number tried
but none persisted with

However, how many openers have been tried and persisted with?

[AZ]

I think you will find a similar number tried
but none persisted with

However, how many openers have been tried and persisted with?

yea right

MO guys we have tried would be Misbah, Malik, Kamal, Faisal Iqbal and Hasan Raza.

Openers? everyone knows those usual suspects.

[Dr_Bassim]

lol, Salman Butt is gonna be better than Anwar :26:

He is okayish player, no where in the league of Anwar.

He is the best opener we have at the moment :26:

Note at the moment effect.
But please dont insult Saeed Anwar by comparing him to the legend.

[Xohaib]

he will surpass anwar.

[IM NOT YOU]

4 matches avg 27



imran nazir career avg 25...



is imran nazir the next saeed anwar as well?

[Xohaib]

at 23 anwar was not even considered for pak.

[Zaz]

salman butt sucks. everybody knows it.

1st ODI he started off terribly , playing way too slow and putting pressure on kamran akmal. he managed to keep his wicket and play a goods innings, but his dropped catch proved costly and he was still playing too slow for a 300 eque pitch

2nd ODI was a duck

3rd ODI he started off well thanks to some errant bowling down the legside which he just glanced for a couple boundaries. finished with a reasonable score but got run out as usual.

4th ODI was a duck.


At least get ur facts right

1st odi he scored his 70 odd at a strike rate of 88

2nd odi he made 2 not a duck

3rd odi he didnt get run out, he was looking good but got a shocka

and he avges 38 with the bat, 2nd best batting avge after moyo

Stick that in ur pipe and smoke it

[AZ]

At least get ur facts right

1st odi he scored his 70 odd at a strike rate of 88

2nd odi he made 2 not a duck

3rd odi he didnt get run out, he was looking good but got a shocka

and he avges 38 with the bat, 2nd best batting avge after moyo

Stick that in ur pipe and smoke it

IM NOT YOU and facts don't really get along

[Gotham Cronie]

Scores for the series: 72, 2, 34, 0, 0

[nitrous]

what a clown this guy is...

[Foozee]

Salman Butt for president....

for Lucky Irani Circus

[Majid Khan]

Salman Butt actually getting past 50 on this tour on a couple of occasions, is the most disappointing thing for me on this tour.

The guy's a joke - he's going to be dropped after his failures on the next tour anyway, why not now??

He's a proven flop.. move on to someone else.

Anyhow, Umar Gul getting a pasting has made it up for me.. maybe he'll get thrown out and someone else will get a chance now.

I don't mind Pakistan losing 5-0 to Aus, because we are that rubbish.. but it would be nice if out of this disaster, some new talented players can get a chance ahead of some of the rubbish we have right now.. maybe it will give some hope for the future

[IM NOT YOU]

Salman Butt

5 innings
3 ducks
1 dropped catch





i am reading threads on the future 'playing XI's and I'm still seeing this guys name in preferred XI lists.


are these people seriously convinced that in all of Pakistan we cant produce a batsman who can average more than 21 runs over 5 games in an ODI series.

[Why did we not stick with kamran akmal and imran nazir? We finally found an ODI opening combination that works and we ditched it??!



so this thread is for people to justify why a player who can not field, can not run, can not play on any track other than a flat track, and constantly puts pressure on his partners and falls for duck so often, be considered for any future ODI's ever again?

[IM NOT YOU]

IM NOT YOU and facts don't really get along


heres a fact:


salman butt played 5 matches

rana naved played 5 matches



salman butt averaged only 2 runs more than rana at a SR of 37 less.

rana naved is a bowler.

thats a disgrace.

[Inswinger]

This year is going to be a very important year for Salman Butt. He has improved over the last year and is looking more like a solid opener. Good Luck Salman!!

[AZ]

Inshallah, a 100 at Lord's for Salman on this tour :)

[Awesome_Username]

It's just sad that it took nearly six years for him, being such a talented, old school batsman, to get rid of (to some extent) his technical deficiencies, something that shouldn't have taken more than 1-2 years. Just hope he goes on to solidify his place now, so that half of Pakistan's opening conundrum is permanently solved.

[AZ]

It's just sad that it took nearly six years for him, being such a talented, old school batsman, to get rid of (to some extent) his technical deficiencies, something that shouldn't have taken more than 1-2 years. Just hope he goes on to solidify his place now, so that half of Pakistan's opening conundrum is permanently solved.

the constant picking/dropping of him did not help his confidence either...he has made at least 8 comebacks in his intl. career! A little more faith, and he would always perform, he has shown that he has a backbone, unlike most of our batsmen.

[Foozee]

hope he finally comes a Solid Opener this year.. he has improved alot

[umarf76]

If Salman Butt was playing for any other team than Pakistan he might have achieved more up till now.

In any case I will not say that he has been pathetic and wasted his time for the last 7 years. His one day career record is good and he has played some big knocks vs. india. It is just that in Test matches he has not performed well and an average of 30 does not do justice to his talents.

Let us hope he performs well in England and his career take off from this point on.

[Boi]

I can see him having a lot of problems with Anderson and the bowl swinging back into him this summer. Let's hope he works on his game and does well this summer. We really need him to be in top form...

[AZ]

I can see him having a lot of problems with Anderson and the bowl swinging back into him this summer. Let's hope he works on his game and does well this summer. We really need him to be in top form...

indeed, will be tough against the new ball in England...but he has experience (albeit a little) of English conditions this time round, so Inshallah he will be fine.

[pak4life]

Butt has never been confident player from his mannerism you could tell he himself thinks his going to get out any ball. The last year or so he has shown good focus and mental strength and hopefully the t20 will give him more belief he can play with confidence.

[Monsee]

Butt-aaaah, what can one say...really; he has more form slumps in a single series than the number of times Sarfraz Nawaz talks about Fixing in one interview or talks about suing someone (usually from PCB) and that really is a miracle :-)

Usually when ever he scores, we always know that there is a string of ducks and sub-20 scores coming soon!

As a player (all three formats), he is very limited and relies heavily on him planting that right foot (or not move his feet at all) and hit through the line shots outside off...you stop the flow of runs there and he gets bogged down and gives away his wicket quickly.

He did surprise all with his shots during this recent T20 WC but that has been an exception so far...we will see how he comes across in T20s and ODIs in England.

As for his running/rotation of strike/fielding/catching/athleticism (rather lack of), less said the better. He barely looks club standard in most of those disciplines.

His comparisons with Anwar (as symbolic as they might be or general in nature), they are laughable to say the least.

Lastly, about YK (whose name was mentioned in this thread), and that he is an average player at best due to his poor-ish record (average wise), what I find rather amusing is that he is not that far away from Butt in terms of averages. So if YK is a poor ODI player, guess what that makes Butt-aaah? Both have been in and out of the ODI teams numerous times and YK plays pretty much like an opener most of the time (due to Butt and other openers), so there goes any chance of an excuse or two from his blind followers.

As for Butt-aaah the Test Player and comparison with YK...what comparison?

[*sallu*]

I've mantained through out that Butt is a much better player when he plays positive aggressive cricket

This t20 world cup has been an example and I just hope hes learned that perhaps a more positive approach will be even better for him in the other formats.

Not asking him to go out and slog in tests and ODIs. Just play a little more openly.

[AZ]

Butt-aaaah, what can one say...really; he has more form slumps in a single series than the number of times Sarfraz Nawaz talks about Fixing in one interview or talks about suing someone (usually from PCB) and that really is a miracle :-)

Usually when ever he scores, we always know that there is a string of ducks and sub-20 scores coming soon!

As a player (all three formats), he is very limited and relies heavily on him planting that right foot (or not move his feet at all) and hit through the line shots outside off...you stop the flow of runs there and he gets bogged down and gives away his wicket quickly.

He did surprise all with his shots during this recent T20 WC but that has been an exception so far...we will see how he comes across in T20s and ODIs in England.

As for his running/rotation of strike/fielding/catching/athleticism (rather lack of), less said the better. He barely looks club standard in most of those disciplines.

His comparisons with Anwar (as symbolic as they might be or general in nature), they are laughable to say the least.

Lastly, about YK (whose name was mentioned in this thread), and that he is an average player at best due to his poor-ish record (average wise), what I find rather amusing is that he is not that far away from Butt in terms of averages. So if YK is a poor ODI player, guess what that makes Butt-aaah? Both have been in and out of the ODI teams numerous times and YK plays pretty much like an opener most of the time (due to Butt and other openers), so there goes any chance of an excuse or two from his blind followers.

As for Butt-aaah the Test Player and comparison with YK...what comparison?

He does have his crises of confidence, but it certainly doesn't help that you are 2 failures away from the chop.

Spin it anyway you like, SB is a far better ODI player than YK...there is obviously no comparison in Tests.

[*sallu*]

He does have his crises of confidence, but it certainly doesn't help that you are 2 failures away from the chop.

Spin it anyway you like, SB is a far better ODI player than YK...there is obviously no comparison in Tests.

far better NO
marginally better YES

had YK played to his potential not a chance

doesn't make Salman Butt a bad player though,hes a very good one, and at the end of the day it is YK's fault for not coming to the party in the ODI format.

His performances in T20 cricket have shown there was no reason for him not to

[AZ]

far better NO
marginally better YES

had YK played to his potential not a chance

doesn't make Salman Butt a bad player though,hes a very good one, and at the end of the day it is YK's fault for not coming to the party in the ODI format.

His performances in T20 cricket have shown there was no reason for him not to

LOL YK has played what, 200+ ODIs? How much more must he play to reach his potential? Admit it, he's a mediocre limited overs player.

I'd say SB has yet to fulfil his potential, a batsman hits his prime between ages 28-32, so he's only going to get better.

[Prince_Pathan]

hes yet to improve further :D...hes still young...what a start hes been this world cup...turned me from critic to fan lol...

[Atif]

He's recently has played some good knocks, taking his time, picking his shots, seems to have become more mature and attacking. Good too see from him.