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fawad_wellwisher
1st February 2010, 19:14
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/sport/12-afridi-may-face-more-trouble-220--bi-01
Afridi may face more trouble
DUBAI: Banned for two matches, Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi might land himself in more trouble for claiming that every team in world cricket tampered with the ball.
Sources on Monday said that the ICC has taken note of Afridi’s comments that all international teams are involved in ball-tampering and might decide to grill him about it.
“There is no team in the world that doesn’t tamper with the ball. My methods were wrong. I am embarrassed, I shouldn’t have done it. I just wanted to win us a game but this was the wrong way to do it,” Afridi said after TV cameras caught him biting the ball during the fifth ODI against Australia on Sunday.
Under ICC rules, any attempt to change the condition of the ball through illegal means is a violation of the players’ code of conduct and the offender is liable to be punished. Afridi later said he was sorry for his bizarre action.
“I apologise to all and everyone involved in the match and to the fans around the world. This will never happen again,” he said. “Being the captain, I should have been a role-model for my players which I was not, but I hope I will be forgiven.” —Agencies
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These days it looks like whenever he opens his mouth it is either to bite something or speak nonsense. Someone should tell him to zip it.
giri26
1st February 2010, 19:17
These days it looks like whenever he opens his mouth it is either to bite something or speak nonsense. Someone should tell him to zip it.
I don't think that will happen as we have seen during the course of this series, every Pakistani player has a free pass to the media. Anyone can give a statement without consequence.
Afridi_Fan
1st February 2010, 19:17
And then some PPers national pride will salvaged.
Stewie
1st February 2010, 19:18
well he isnt wrong. other countries are smart enough to do it in a way they dont get caught..
dirt, throat lozenges, boot spikes for instance.. most well known.. God knows what other means are used.. i read somewhere about rings with pointed teeth and trousers with abrasive polishing areas.
fawad_wellwisher
1st February 2010, 19:20
I don't think that will happen as we have seen during the course of this series, every Pakistani player has a free pass to the media. Anyone can give a statement without consequence.
Yes but in this case he is harming no one but himself but making such baseless accusations against his contemporaries.
He is basically labeling all the other players who play cricket cheats!
fawad_wellwisher
1st February 2010, 19:25
well he isnt wrong. other countries are smart enough to do it in a way they dont get caught..
dirt, throat lozenges, boot spikes for instance.. most well known.. God knows what other means are used.. i read somewhere about rings with pointed teeth and trousers with abrasive polishing areas.
Well ICC is going to see this very differently. He is bringingthe gaming into disrepute by making such accusations against his fellow cricketers.
Expect to see an Aussie response to this.
12thMan
1st February 2010, 19:26
well he isnt wrong. other countries are smart enough to do it in a way they dont get caught..
dirt, throat lozenges, boot spikes for instance.. most well known.. God knows what other means are used.. i read somewhere about rings with pointed teeth and trousers with abrasive polishing areas.All cricket community knows it. Holding says it in commentary. I have heard Tony Greig say it in commentary. If Afridi wants to say it then say it to the ICC not the public or be ready to retire and say all he wants as we are willing to hear.
I can't wait till he retires as some stories will come
161
1st February 2010, 19:34
I would agree with Afridi that every team tries to work the ball .. but not as openly and as stupidly as he did.
Stewie
1st February 2010, 19:48
it does not matter who he says it to. I think whats true is true and its double standards for the governing body to make it a crime and punishable offence and yet member nations under the table continue to indulge in this activity.
Afridi had the cojones to come out and say it, good for him. I would not worry about what his "fellow" cricketers will say, they have not exactly shown solidarity with us by playing in pakistan either, have they?
This has been a contentious issue in the cricketing world with a pro legalize "working the ball" faction vs "ball tampering should be illegal" faction.
So obviously cricketers are split on this issue and not all of them think it should be illegal. However, while its illegal, its illegal and you should follow the law. You dont do that, you have to pay.
Random Aussie
1st February 2010, 20:10
Well ICC is going to see this very differently. He is bringingthe gaming into disrepute by making such accusations against his fellow cricketers.
Expect to see an Aussie response to this.
Wish our bowlers were better at it, they might get the ball to move.
He is right, every team does it. They will probably hose him down for saying it though.
asadee
1st February 2010, 20:11
he screwed up, apologized, has been penalized...let's move on
farhan1
1st February 2010, 20:48
I dont think any more trouble to Afridi but without Afridi he is more suited for ODIs and T20Is as captain with doing so much in T20I as captain without having him as captain a major bllow for Pakistan in the next two T20Is in Melborne and Dubai but he's not too far away from return will comeback in the second T20I against England. With no success for Pakistan in recent times and we got one more controversy and this is killing for everyone Pakistan hopes now only T20Is now and with Afridi not captaining the side is huge below for Pakistan and the fans. Pakistan getting themselves in further trouble now.
AZ
1st February 2010, 20:54
somebody put a sock in his mouth already
Noddy
1st February 2010, 21:02
Contravened his PCB contract - again......Get a PR peice out and say it was misinterpreted and now what I meant to say...
KA$H
1st February 2010, 21:04
there's gamesmanship and then there's pure stupidity
and there's no excuse for stupidity
eViLrAcEr
1st February 2010, 21:06
ICC is Cricket Tampering :@
Sledger
1st February 2010, 21:11
I said at the time this was released that Afridi's comments here are true but there was no need to say it, and this proves why he shouldn't have. The ICC will make every effort to sweep it under the rug as usual and will do everything in their power to gag Afridi. We've all heard the stories of this sort of behaviour for years, from John Leaver rubbing Vaseline into the ball to the recent claim that Bopara was digging his nails into the ball. That said, I've never thought it should be legalised because its difficult to draw a line, I do not however agree with the new ODI ball change rule.. they should just use some sort of instant white spray on the ball so at least it has a chance to reverse, that used to be interesting to watch at the death - slogging against a deviating ball.
Nice-N-Fresh
1st February 2010, 21:12
Afridi is IQ freed. The only good about him is his bowling.
Eagle_Eye
1st February 2010, 21:38
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/sport/12-afridi-may-face-more-trouble-220--bi-01
Afridi may face more trouble
DUBAI: Banned for two matches, Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi might land himself in more trouble for claiming that every team in world cricket tampered with the ball.
Sources on Monday said that the ICC has taken note of Afridi’s comments that all international teams are involved in ball-tampering and might decide to grill him about it.
“There is no team in the world that doesn’t tamper with the ball. My methods were wrong. I am embarrassed, I shouldn’t have done it. I just wanted to win us a game but this was the wrong way to do it,” Afridi said after TV cameras caught him biting the ball during the fifth ODI against Australia on Sunday.
Under ICC rules, any attempt to change the condition of the ball through illegal means is a violation of the players’ code of conduct and the offender is liable to be punished. Afridi later said he was sorry for his bizarre action.
“I apologise to all and everyone involved in the match and to the fans around the world. This will never happen again,” he said. “Being the captain, I should have been a role-model for my players which I was not, but I hope I will be forgiven.” —Agencies
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These days it looks like whenever he opens his mouth it is either to bite something or speak nonsense. Someone should tell him to zip it.
Why dont PCB just ban this moron for a lengthy period as he deserves...
Stupidity beyond belief
Random Aussie
1st February 2010, 21:45
Contravened his PCB contract - again......Get a PR peice out and say it was misinterpreted and now what I meant to say...
Don't know if you have seen this bit, reported in the Melbourne paper this morning:
"But Afridi has a ball-tampering history. India's Times Now television network taped him talking privately at a function in 2006 when he admitted to a small group of people that tampering was a routine custom in his team.
Afridi, unaware that the camera filming him was from a television station, dropped his guard when asked how much time his team had to tamper with the balls.
"We do not have that much time," Afridi said. "Only (a) few get to do some bit of ball tampering. If the weather is dry and hot then you can get some help from the pitch while bowling.
"But you also have to help the ball yourself. You have to tamper with the ball to make it swing (on subcontinental pitches).
"It spells death for bowlers if you don't tamper with the ball. You can get some help from the pitch but even then you have to 'make' the ball.
"The game and its rules are changing. You should be allowed to tamper with the ball after the 30th or 40th over.""
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/we-all-tamper-shahid-afridi/story-e6frf9if-1225825680351
fawad_wellwisher
1st February 2010, 21:52
Don't know if you have seen this bit, reported in the Melbourne paper this morning:
"But Afridi has a ball-tampering history. India's Times Now television network taped him talking privately at a function in 2006 when he admitted to a small group of people that tampering was a routine custom in his team.
Afridi, unaware that the camera filming him was from a television station, dropped his guard when asked how much time his team had to tamper with the balls.
"We do not have that much time," Afridi said. "Only (a) few get to do some bit of ball tampering. If the weather is dry and hot then you can get some help from the pitch while bowling.
"But you also have to help the ball yourself. You have to tamper with the ball to make it swing (on subcontinental pitches).
"It spells death for bowlers if you don't tamper with the ball. You can get some help from the pitch but even then you have to 'make' the ball.
"The game and its rules are changing. You should be allowed to tamper with the ball after the 30th or 40th over.""
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/we-all-tamper-shahid-afridi/story-e6frf9if-1225825680351
As I predicted. The Aussie media is going to have a field day with this.
Blitz
1st February 2010, 21:59
he screwed up, apologized, has been penalized...let's move on
Yea cause life is that easy? Cheat, lie, appologize and then do it again.
This is professional sport, not a bloody monopoly game with friends. The fact that he had the audacity to say every team does it in the world just makes him more of a disgrace.
This has nothing to do with the kind of player he is. I don't think he should ever be allowed near captaincy, simply becuase I thought the captain must have a higher IQ then a chimp, which Afridi obviously doesn't. You said move on, well lets do that, while leaving this cheat behind.
siddharth
1st February 2010, 22:00
well he isnt wrong. other countries are smart enough to do it in a way they dont get caught..
dirt, throat lozenges, boot spikes for instance.. most well known.. God knows what other means are used.. i read somewhere about rings with pointed teeth and trousers with abrasive polishing areas.
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saeed-sohail
1st February 2010, 22:19
Laughing stock.PCB should ban him to teach him a lesson.
iHammad
1st February 2010, 22:20
:pissed:
Dare2Dream
2nd February 2010, 00:00
He is an idiot, got off easy with a ban of just 2 T20, his actions demanded a longer term ban, an apology to all cricket fans, and an apology to his country men for muddling their name. Sadly, he has done the opposite and is trying to justify his actions.
I just don't understand how, despite his low morality, he felt he could get away with it with hundreds of cameras and thousands of eyes trained on the match.
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 00:09
ICC is a moronic organisation - we have witnessed their leniency when it came to Anderson and Broad, now they want try and punish Afridi - bunch of idiots
Afridi spoke the truth - its clear those comments have hurt some of those in the corridors of power - good on Afridi :afridi
khalil1986
2nd February 2010, 00:18
Just because he says it how it is. I think he is right in what he said icc can **** off
iHammad
2nd February 2010, 00:26
ICC is a moronic organisation - we have witnessed their leniency when it came to Anderson and Broad, now they want try and punish Afridi - bunch of idiots
Afridi spoke the truth - its clear those comments have hurt some of those in the corridors of power - good on Afridi :afridi
100 % agree
:afridi
truth
2nd February 2010, 00:34
ICC is a moronic organisation - we have witnessed their leniency when it came to Anderson and Broad, now they want try and punish Afridi - bunch of idiots
Afridi spoke the truth - its clear those comments have hurt some of those in the corridors of power - good on Afridi :afridi
U seem to be biased mate .............. Afridi has done wrong and further to that he is calling everyone cheat
fawad_wellwisher
2nd February 2010, 00:47
ICC is a moronic organisation - we have witnessed their leniency when it came to Anderson and Broad, now they want try and punish Afridi - bunch of idiots
Afridi spoke the truth - its clear those comments have hurt some of those in the corridors of power - good on Afridi :afridi
Just so that you are clear
Afridi spoke the 'truth' to justify his own shameful behaviour and not because he is on a mission to eradicate ball tampering from the sport once and for all.
He is giving the impression in the interview that ball tampering occurs in every other match which is simply not true.
The fact of the matter is that he is opening his mouth without his brain performing any kind of information processing.
khalil1986
2nd February 2010, 00:49
U seem to be biased mate .............. Afridi has done wrong and further to that he is calling everyone cheat
No he isn't and I think he will know more than you what goes on in international cricket
Cover Drive
2nd February 2010, 01:00
I agree with GA
But on the other hand I do not think he will be under more trouble. ICC will just ask him questions and so on. Remember when Shoaib Akhtar said that money were offered to him to under perform? At that time ICC had sent one or two guy(s) who had questioned Gul and Younis (I believe) for this.
So nothing to worry from past experience but as GA said...
Garuda
2nd February 2010, 01:19
Why afridi is saying this after he got caught?
Everyone would have stood behind him, if he had said before being caught.
Even if everyone does it, it doesn't benefit Afridi as he is crying after being caught.
deathstreak
2nd February 2010, 02:22
He has made an accusation.
In public and as a cricketer, captain.
Now he must provide proof.
That's how the ICC are going to see it.
Everyone says it after they have retired, but Afridi's accusations come while he is under the code of conduct for players.
Ex players do not come under the code.
So ICC will ask him some questions, Afridi will be unable to give proof, he will apologize, firm warning will be given and everything will be forgotten in a couple of weeks.
Oh yeah and Times Now is TOI's tv channel, they are useless as well :P
kkmix
2nd February 2010, 02:26
He is right, I think Australia are very good at tempering with the ball, because the way Shane Watson started reverse swinging the ball after 20 overs of a test match...and i m sure even if they caught him on camera they wouldn't show it on tv, so aussies never get into trouble.
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 02:34
U seem to be biased mate .............. Afridi has done wrong and further to that he is calling everyone cheat
I cudnt care less whether i am biased - when players from other countries are let off for blatant ball tampering its bloody annoying
Of course Afridi has done wrong BUT he has taken his punishment like a man - he didnt have his coach etc to defend him like the english players did
As for Afridi's comments, i think they are true and the ICC need to get a grip - they are on a power trip BUT it smacks of hypocrisy
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 02:37
Just so that you are clear
Afridi spoke the 'truth' to justify his own shameful behaviour and not because he is on a mission to eradicate ball tampering from the sport once and for all.
He is giving the impression in the interview that ball tampering occurs in every other match which is simply not true.
The fact of the matter is that he is opening his mouth without his brain performing any kind of information processing.
shameful behaviour? Get real - shameful is what occured with the English players BUT i dont see you shouting about that? Obviously not because it would mean you need to get off your high horse
If Afridi thinks ball tampering is committed by other countries then he is entitiled to that opinion - i happen to agree with him regardless of the motives behind his comments
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 02:44
shameful behaviour? Get real - shameful is what occured with the English players BUT i dont see you shouting about that? Obviously not because it would mean you need to get off your high horse
If Afridi thinks ball tampering is committed by other countries then he is entitiled to that opinion - i happen to agree with him regardless of the motives behind his comments
Staunch supporter of Afridi, aren't you:)
fawad_wellwisher
2nd February 2010, 03:03
Staunch and blind supporter of Afridi, aren't you:)
Fixed :)
fawad_wellwisher
2nd February 2010, 03:10
shameful behaviour? Get real - shameful is what occured with the English players BUT i dont see you shouting about that? Obviously not because it would mean you need to get off your high horse
If Afridi thinks ball tampering is committed by other countries then he is entitiled to that opinion - i happen to agree with him regardless of the motives behind his comments
TBH I couldn't care less what Broad and Anderson did, since I am not a Pommie. I don't set my moral standards by others actions. Instead I follow my creators' moral code which comes to me through his last book.
I am Pakistani and all I know is that the captain of Pakistan cricket team put the ball in his mouth twice with the objective of winning a cricket game through fraudulent means and thus shamed the whole nation with his actions.
He then tried to justify this perverted act by saying others do it so it is OK for me to do it. That is typical Pakistani mentality that if others are accepting bribes, why shouldn't I!
But I can see you are in no mood to listen to reason.
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 03:15
TBH I couldn't care less what Broad and Anderson, since I am not a Pommie.
But I am Pakistani and all I know is that the captain of Pakistan cricket team put the ball in his mouth twice with the objective of winning a cricket game through fraudulent means and thus shamed the whole nation with his actions.
He then tried to justify this perverted act by saying others do it so it is OK for me to do it.
But I can see you are in no mood to listen to reason.
I totally agree with you. Our president is doing the same thing by the way:)) It is our action we should look at. Allah never said do the wrong thing as long as others are doing it too.
iafzal
2nd February 2010, 03:16
shameful behaviour? Get real - shameful is what occured with the English players BUT i dont see you shouting about that? Obviously not because it would mean you need to get off your high horse
If Afridi thinks ball tampering is committed by other countries then he is entitiled to that opinion - i happen to agree with him regardless of the motives behind his comments
Tell me who does Afridi play cricket 90% of time?
with Pakistani team or with his domestic team. So knows Pak team the doemstic cricket circuit very well. You cannot expect him to know the county system or Aussies system the same way. Now he makes this stupid statement that everyone ball tampers basically implicating the Pakistani team in the process weather true or not but that is what it says to rest of the world.
If Broad came out tomorrow and said everyone ball tampers then will you not assume or take it as a given that England team ball tampers on regular basis?
Genghis
2nd February 2010, 03:18
Yes it was another poor statement from Afridi. You do not apologise for something only to come out later and say well everyone does it so no big deal. Regardless of what he thinks (and yes I do agree that other countries do it too), he cannot use it as an excuse for his actions.
zaid65
2nd February 2010, 03:22
TBH I couldn't care less what Broad and Anderson did, since I am not a Pommie. I don't set my moral standards by others actions. Instead I follow my creators' moral code which comes to me through his last book.
I am Pakistani and all I know is that the captain of Pakistan cricket team put the ball in his mouth twice with the objective of winning a cricket game through fraudulent means and thus shamed the whole nation with his actions.
He then tried to justify this perverted act by saying others do it so it is OK for me to do it. That is typical Pakistani mentality that if others are accepting bribes, why shouldn't I!
But I can see you are in no mood to listen to reason.
Excellent post!!
What you said is quite typical and prevalent in our whole society from top to bottom. When our leaders faced the corruption allegations, instead of denying those allegations, they bring the name of other people. Same thing in general public, they feel like if our leaders are corrupt, so this is their right to do illegal activities.
We as a Pakistani, have become morally and ethically corrupt nation. It will take some generations to get the right direction.
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 03:32
Staunch supporter of Afridi, aren't you:)
Staunch supporter of Pakistani players :)
Genghis
2nd February 2010, 03:33
Of course our players are not the most media savy, but to be fair on Afridi, you must realise that this statement of his was made to GEO TV. It was probably in Urdu, and he probably did not realise the coverage it was going to receive around the rest of the world.
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 03:35
Staunch supporter of Pakistani players :)
Me too but that doesn't stop me from criticizing them for cheating. Support is fine. I am a big supporter of our team. Leave food, sleep less and even not go to work sometime so I can watch the match. He let us down big time.
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 03:37
TBH I couldn't care less what Broad and Anderson did, since I am not a Pommie. I don't set my moral standards by others actions. Instead I follow my creators' moral code which comes to me through his last book.
I am Pakistani and all I know is that the captain of Pakistan cricket team put the ball in his mouth twice with the objective of winning a cricket game through fraudulent means and thus shamed the whole nation with his actions.
He then tried to justify this perverted act by saying others do it so it is OK for me to do it. That is typical Pakistani mentality that if others are accepting bribes, why shouldn't I!
But I can see you are in no mood to listen to reason.
Listen to what? Are you teaching me the alphabet or something?
You have an opinion and i have mine - we are both entitled to them, not sure what listening to reason has got to do with anything
I think you are massively overreacting with your 'shaming the whole nation' comment - our nation is being shame in many other ways. What Afridi did was stupid, he was caught, admitted his guilt and will serve his punishment. That is the end of the matter as far as im concerned
As for what other teams do, it makes a huge difference - i dont like cheating any more than the next person BUT if team A cheats and isnt punished, yet team B cheats and gets punished, dont you mind that a little bit odd? Does that not anger you even the slightest?
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 03:38
Tell me who does Afridi play cricket 90% of time?
with Pakistani team or with his domestic team. So knows Pak team the doemstic cricket circuit very well. You cannot expect him to know the county system or Aussies system the same way. Now he makes this stupid statement that everyone ball tampers basically implicating the Pakistani team in the process weather true or not but that is what it says to rest of the world.
If Broad came out tomorrow and said everyone ball tampers then will you not assume or take it as a given that England team ball tampers on regular basis?
I tried, i really did BUT your post totally lost me
Geordie Ahmed
2nd February 2010, 03:40
Me too but that doesn't stop me from criticizing them for cheating. Support is fine. I am a big supporter of our team. Leave food, sleep less and even not go to work sometime so I can watch the match. He let us down big time.
Nice story BUT what's that got to do with the price of fish
Like i have said many, many times now - he was wrong, he got caught, he admitted it, he has been punished and he will serve his punishment. That is the end of the matter as far as i am concerned, making a big drama out of it about shaming the nation etc etc is not for me
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 03:45
Nice story BUT what's that got to do with the price of fish
Like i have said many, many times now - he was wrong, he got caught, he admitted it, he has been punished and he will serve his punishment. That is the end of the matter as far as i am concerned, making a big drama out of it about shaming the nation etc etc is not for me
No need to be hostile or I should say personal:) my dear moderator. My point was that we admire them and support them whole heartedly. As you said in your post you have your opinion and we have ours. Let's leave it at that:) peace
Fish
2nd February 2010, 03:45
Nice story BUT what's that got to do with the price of fish
Fish has no price, I cannot be bought. :))
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 03:45
Fish has no price, I cannot be bought. :))
good one:)
iafzal
2nd February 2010, 03:55
I tried, i really did BUT your post totally lost me
OK, very simply... if you make the statement that everyone ball tampers the first group you are implicating in this accusation is your own team who you play with most of the time. Pak has already been under a dark cloud of ball tampering allegations and then the 2006 incident and now Afridi makes it official with his stupid statement if has action was not stupid enough.
Poison
2nd February 2010, 03:57
Like i have said many, many times now - he was wrong, he got caught, he admitted it, he has been punished and he will serve his punishment. That is the end of the matter as far as i am concerned, making a big drama out of it about shaming the nation etc etc is not for me
Excellent post.
Poison
2nd February 2010, 03:59
"But Afridi has a ball-tampering history. India's Times Now television network taped him talking privately at a function in 2006 when he admitted to a small group of people that tampering was a routine custom in his team.
:Sami
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 04:01
:Sami
salam:)
sali
2nd February 2010, 05:39
Afridi just doesn't know how to control his aggression nd his mouth. It will be a good ride if he became the captain. Press will have a lot to write and change it the next day after he changes his mind. Love the guy and nothing will make him change.
afridi_captain
2nd February 2010, 05:46
Get over it. I've condemned this as has most of the other fans including the fans of afridi. He has admitied didn't try to hide it or anything( not that he could have). Now the matter is settled the judge has give his verdict, and he will serve his punishment. Its not like he got away with it. You have to undrestand that he is the only shining light in the dark time of pakistani cricket as far as CAPTAINCY is involved.
So My sincere request to all Pak cricket fans that please get over it as this issue will die eventually unless we the fan keep it alive.
Once again I condemn his behaviour and expect him not to do anything stupit like that in the future.
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 05:54
Get over it. I've condemned this as has most of the other fans including the fans of afridi. He has admitied didn't try to hide it or anything( not that he could have). Now the matter is settled the judge has give his verdict, and he will serve his punishment. Its not like he got away with it. You have to undrestand that he is the only shining light in the dark time of pakistani cricket as far as CAPTAINCY is involved.
So My sincere request to all Pak cricket fans that please get over it as this issue will die eventually unless we the fan keep it alive.
Once again I condemn his behaviour and expect him not to do anything stupit like that in the future.
Yes your right we should forget about it, because he said sorry. Cricket and captaincy is more important than national integrity, honor, etc. So what if Pakistan's name was tarnished. Afridi is no longer a shining star in the dark for anything, period.
afridi_captain
2nd February 2010, 06:11
Yes your right we should forget about it, because he said sorry. Cricket and captaincy is more important than national integrity, honor, etc. So what if Pakistan's name was tarnished. Afridi is no longer a shining star in the dark for anything, period.
Don't talk about Pakistan name, Just look around you and you'll find the answer that this is nothing compare with............X and X and X and X and millions more.
iafzal
2nd February 2010, 06:14
Don't talk about Pakistan name, Just look around you and you'll find the answer that this is nothing compare with............X and X and X and X and millions more.
why the double standard?
when we win WC the same team and players bring so much joy, happiness and respect to the nation of Pakistan but when they cheat they have no impact on its people or how they are perceived by rest of the world?
insaaniyat
2nd February 2010, 06:19
Don't talk about Pakistan name, Just look around you and you'll find the answer that this is nothing compare with............X and X and X and X and millions more.
when I look around me, all I see is a loving family who taught me integrity, honor, never to lie or cheat, respect others and love your country. So you are wrong, I don't see what you see around you:) Good night and may you be the shining star for people around you. I know I am:)
fawad_wellwisher
2nd February 2010, 16:51
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r506060_2702687.jpg
Why did Rana not tell him to stop?
:naved should have been banned too along with Asif, since they acted as accomplices.
Poison
2nd February 2010, 16:53
Rana's face looks like he's thinking what everyone else was thinking at the time.
W.T.F.
adarsh_bang
2nd February 2010, 17:01
Rana's face looks like he's thinking what everyone else was thinking at the time.
W.T.F.
exactly... if you look at the video this point of view gains more strength... its almost like the guy's embarrassed and is thinking what the world is going to make of afridi's bizarre stunt????????
UsmanhailsAfridi
2nd February 2010, 17:07
when I look around me, all I see is a loving family who taught me integrity, honor, never to lie or cheat, respect others and love your country. So you are wrong, I don't see what you see around you:) Good night and may you be the shining star for people around you. I know I am:)
i guess you need to look harder
"shamed the nation" LMAO...our nation must be really fragile in that case...come on man slow down with the drama...it doesnt suit a 'man'
Poison
2nd February 2010, 17:09
exactly... if you look at the video this point of view gains more strength... its almost like the guy's embarrassed and is thinking what the world is going to make of afridi's bizarre stunt????????
Imagine you see your captain, leader; suddenly grab the ball out of your hand and insert it into his mouth. His brain must have gone into super overdrive.
fawad_wellwisher
2nd February 2010, 17:11
i guess you need to look harder
"shamed the nation" LMAO...our nation must be really fragile in that case...come on man slow down with the drama...it doesnt suit a 'man'
Go back to your PS3 as you clearly have no clue as to what he is talking about!
Mohsin
2nd February 2010, 17:12
Bull****
The only reason he might get into even more trouble is because of the backlash from seom in regards to the 'light' punishment!
Typical ICC!
Zu456
2nd February 2010, 17:16
Why doe he not think what he is saying. he should have apologized instead of trying to justify himself a bit by saying that everyone does it.
UsmanhailsAfridi
2nd February 2010, 17:17
Go back to your PS3 as you clearly have no clue as to what he is talking about!
HAHA...another joker prowling PP...i exactly know what he is talking about...if he or you were actually looking around u will see that every other person is cheating someone else in the 'land of the pure' and here ppl want to talk about 'sharam'...
not a day went by in Pakistan when someone didn't try to rip me off of my money in my 30 days there last month...please fix your house first then your neighborhood then your city before you start pointing fingers at someone who is their in the first place for your viewing pleasure....
and oh btw do you want a PS3? let me know i can get you a good deal ;-) ...
Noddy
2nd February 2010, 20:39
Lets see what happens then.....probably not a lot.
pakistani_banda
2nd February 2010, 20:42
how come he is speaking to the media? didnt the pcb put a media gag on all the players??
12thMan
2nd February 2010, 20:45
how come he is speaking to the media? didnt the pcb put a media gag on all the players??He is captain or maybe not. Gag was for IPL matters. But restrictions are always there. It is a matter of can a player think before speaking
insaaniyat
3rd February 2010, 06:28
i guess you need to look harder
"shamed the nation" LMAO...our nation must be really fragile in that case...come on man slow down with the drama...it doesnt suit a 'man'
Spot on:)
insaaniyat
3rd February 2010, 06:31
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r506060_2702687.jpg
Why did Rana not tell him to stop?
:naved should have been banned too along with Asif, since they acted as accomplices.
kinda agree with you. they take drugs we forgive them, they do it again we do the same. We are very forgiving people for all the wrong reasons.
fawad_wellwisher
3rd February 2010, 13:30
kinda agree with you. they take drugs we forgive them, they do it again we do the same. We are very forgiving people for all the wrong reasons.
If I were Rana I would have snatched the ball away from him.
Sultanofswing
3rd February 2010, 15:48
Yea cause life is that easy? Cheat, lie, appologize and then do it again.
This is professional sport, not a bloody monopoly game with friends. The fact that he had the audacity to say every team does it in the world just makes him more of a disgrace.
This has nothing to do with the kind of player he is. I don't think he should ever be allowed near captaincy, simply becuase I thought the captain must have a higher IQ then a chimp, which Afridi obviously doesn't. You said move on, well lets do that, while leaving this cheat behind.
lol pakistani cricketers and professionalism is grammatically incorrect in same sentence, page or even a book.
Sultanofswing
3rd February 2010, 15:58
all this duffer can do is cry and whine, not so long ago he was whinning for IPL contracts, he is lucky he got caught playing in international game, if it was an IPL game, he would have been in some serious trouble.
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