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Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:31
Australia win toss and bat first.

pls make sticky.

jalex382
27th September 2005, 10:35
any link for live commentry?

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:37
not that i know of, its being shown on ptv in Pak.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:39
ball by ball commentary should be from this link

http://www.the-cricket-site.com/Scorecards/a/16/a16864/a16864_mini.html


complete scorecard

http://www.the-cricket-site.com/Scorecards/a/16/a16864.html

jalex382
27th September 2005, 10:46
no i meant like cricinfo and other sites, there is some kind on pcb website but there are no updates other then the full squda names.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:49
no i meant like cricinfo and other sites, there is some kind on pcb website but there are no updates other then the full squda names.

check again- it has been updated!

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:56
teams

Australia A
PA Jaques
BJ Hodge
JR Hopes
CL White
MJ North
SR Watson
MEK Hussey
ML Lewis
NW Bracken
CD Hartley
SR Clark


sub- Daniel Cullen

Pakistan A

Salman Butt
Hasan Raza
Imran Farhat
Bazid Khan
Zulqarnain Haider
Ashar Zaidi
Faisal Iqbal
Mohammad Asif
Umar Gul
Mohammad Sami
Yasir Arafat

Sub- Tahir Khan

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:57
currently 25/2 off 5 overs

wicket a piece for Sami and Gul

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 10:58
Jacques pulls Sami for a 6.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:00
43/2 off 9 overs

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:02
Kacques going for at a rate of run a ball

North hasnt scored yet - faced 15 balls.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:02
....but then hits 2 fours off Gul

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:03
10 overs gone 51/2

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:04
Asif into the attack.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:08
65/2 off 13 overs . current run rate 5/over

Arafat into the attack

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:11
Arafat picks up North's wicket who departs for 10 runs.

65/3

Hussey into the attack.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:13
Great catch! from round the wicket, pitches it short of a good length and bit wide outside off and moves further away, tries to chases that one, edges it to keeper, Zulqarnain dives full length towards his left and takes a brilliant catch

-For Norths Wicket!

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:14
wicket maiden for Arafat.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:18
then Asif gives away 10 runs.

75/3 after 15 overs runrate still 5 an over.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:25
76/3 after 17overs... yes only 1 run added:D

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:30
look like Arafat is bowling a good length..

couple of flukey 4s for Jacques.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:34
87/3 off 19 overs.

Jacques currently 62 off 55 balls.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:37
Hussey started off slowly currently only 2 runs off 20 balls.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:40
...then he duly gets bowled by Arafat.

Aus A - 95/4 off 20 overs

Jonty
27th September 2005, 11:41
losing wickets regularly

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:42
Watson has started off positively 8 off 4 balls so far. His first ball, he hit for 4.

Amjid Javed
27th September 2005, 11:52
seems like phil jaques has been a class apart from all aussie batsmen on this tour!
he shud replace hayden in test side asap!

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:53
100 up

102/4 off 21 overs

Watson 13 off 6 balls.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:55
103/4 off 22 overs

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:56
seems like phil jaques has been a class apart from all aussie batsmen on this tour!
he shud replace hayden in test side asap!

he also had a good county season.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 11:58
Salman Butt into the attack.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:01
116/4 off 25 overs - half way point.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:03
118/4 off 26 overs

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:08
Umar Gul back into the attack and Watson hits him for 4.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:13
Supersub rule in play.

Tahir Khan replaces Sami.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:14
136/4 off 29 overs.

at this rate they should make 270-280.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:15
2 runs off his first over.

Naz
27th September 2005, 12:17
Why would they sub sami, even b4 they have finshed bowling out 50 overs, they need him at the death. I think this sends a strong message to sami and all of us, he might be in trouble and it is about time. Since when do you sub your international strike bowler in a 'A team match'. Even these unknown aussies can put 'MR. 6 runs per over' away with ease.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:18
141/4 off 30 overs - normally u double the score...we will see.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:19
Why would they sub sami, even b4 they have finshed bowling out 50 overs, they need him at the death. I think this sends a strong message to sami and all of us, he might be in trouble and it is about time. Since when do you sub your international strike bowler in a 'A team match'. Even these unknown aussies can put 'MR. 6 runs per over' away with ease.

Jacques was taking him apart. He was giving him too many 4 balls.

MIG
27th September 2005, 12:22
Could it be that this is a good batting strip ? Can we hold off before castigating our bowlers !

Jonty
27th September 2005, 12:23
aussies getting the upper hand now, a wicket needed

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:24
Jacques has started slogging the part time spinner.. Butt.

150 up in the 32nd over.

Jacques into the 90s.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:26
Could it be that this is a good batting strip ? Can we hold off before castigating our bowlers !

I aint castigating him..Jacques found him to his liking.The others didnt.

Naz
27th September 2005, 12:27
Whats new??? MIG, 5 wides and 2 no balls in just a five over spell can never be controlled by the quailty of wicket. Also the fact that he is yet again going for 6 runs an over when no one else is, tells a story. For someone of his international experience, this is just plain embarrasing for him, especially in front of all his unexperienced and young peers bowling such as gul etc. He shoulfd be leading the way, not giving examples of 'how not to bowl'.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:28
32.4 - tossed up, driven in the air to long-on, yasir Arafat dropped it

Off Supersubs bowling.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:31
32.6 -arm ball, outside off, tries to drive it by using his feet, beats, bat and keeper on the way to third man fence, another chance goes down, was a stumping chance!

MIG
27th September 2005, 12:35
I aint castigating him..Jacques found him to his liking.The others didnt.

It was a general comment - not aimed at you at all - apologies if it sounded like that !

MIG
27th September 2005, 12:36
Whats new??? MIG, 5 wides and 2 no balls in just a five over spell can never be controlled by the quailty of wicket. Also the fact that he is yet again going for 6 runs an over when no one else is, tells a story. For someone of his international experience, this is just plain embarrasing for him, especially in front of all his unexperienced and young peers bowling such as gul etc. He shoulfd be leading the way, not giving examples of 'how not to bowl'.

All bowlers have a bad day or spell - McGrath to Sami - its the same.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:38
Tahir bowls watson for 44.

173/5

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:39
It was a general comment - not aimed at you at all - apologies if it sounded like that !

no problem... just covering my bases.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:40
Jacques gets his 100 off 99 balls.

177/5 off 36 overs.

MIG
27th September 2005, 12:41
Is Tahir Samis replacement - what kind of bowler is he ?

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:44
182/5 off 37 overs.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:44
Is Tahir Samis replacement - what kind of bowler is he ?

off break

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:48
187/5 - 38 overs

currently going for 5 runs an over.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:56
Jacques bowled by Butt.

198/6.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:57
199/6 after 41 overs bowled.

rr slowed down.. 250 maybe more realistic now.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 12:58
200 up in the 42nd over.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:03
ashar zaidi concedes 10 off his 3rd over.

213/6 after 43 overs

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:05
a bit of slogging happening now.... maybe 250 was a under estimate bymyself - 270 at this rate.

KaSaNoVa_G
27th September 2005, 13:07
250 could still happen, gul and yasir still got about 5 overs

to bowl between them... its gonna be a hard chase even if its 250...

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:13
currently 219/6 off 43.3 overs - scoreboard stalled. Butt middle of his last over 6 runs scored so far off it.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:29
222/6 off 44 overs

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:31
Butt finishes with 1/48 off his 10 overs.

Asif back into the attack and concedes 6 runs off his over.

232/6 off 45th over.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:34
244/7

Asif gets Hartley out LBW

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:35
Cameron races to his 50 off 38 balls.

KaSaNoVa_G
27th September 2005, 13:35
257/7 48.4 overs gorn...

look like we gonna need around 265-270 to win...

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:35
260 off 49 overs.

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:37
expensive final over 13 runs conceded.

273/7 off 50 overs

Arafat goes for 2/60 off his 10 overs.

alybaba
27th September 2005, 13:38
The umpiring has been quite third class throughout the series.

Nawazb
27th September 2005, 13:38
273 aus a scored 274 needed to win

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:39
innings closed.

274 to win

No Malik.

But Butt (being experienced in internationals now compared with the others) opening, will he able to match Malik in terms of scoring heavy in this series..??

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 13:41
need to bat steadily and not go gungho.

yk
27th September 2005, 13:45
Sounds like its a good batting track...Salu HAS to play well....surley a century....He did it against India IN India...why can't he do it at home against an 'A' team.

desired
27th September 2005, 13:52
its dooable

Nauman
27th September 2005, 13:56
Sounds like its a good batting track...Salu HAS to play well....surley a century....He did it against India IN India...why can't he do it at home against an 'A' team.

Because he only scores runs against India.

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 14:05
What is the crowd like?

desired
27th September 2005, 14:10
crowd was good in the second match but then it was a sunday dunno about today am at work

Nauman
27th September 2005, 14:12
crowd was good in the second match but then it was a sunday dunno about today am at work

I only saw last 5 overs of the Aus A innings today but once or twice camera did go to the crowd and around 2 to 3 stands were full.

tahaqureshi
27th September 2005, 14:17
If Imran Farhat performs here, it will be some sort of a relief for the selectors. Then he MUST go on and score big in the upcoming Eng tour warm up matches.

Nauman
27th September 2005, 14:18
Butt out second ball

Nauman
27th September 2005, 14:18
I told you guys that Butt has been rushed into he still has problems with ball comming into him, if this continues Hoggard will make his bunny.

kayanni
27th September 2005, 14:26
it cant be good to keep chopping and changing the side.......one min Butt is in, the next match he is out, then he is in.

This does not build up any momentum or confidence.

Same thing happened in India in the test, plyd the 1st test and was dropped for the rest of the series for failures like Captain Birdseye and Taufeeq Umar..

Then v WI same thing - picked for the 1st test but dropped for the second

Nauman
27th September 2005, 14:27
Farhat goes too, 8/2 Pakistan all rests on the shoulders of Hassan Raza.

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 14:29
bloody hell this is ridicolous farhat should be dropped.

alghazzali
27th September 2005, 14:30
I can safely say, the best player from both teams in that Jaques. The rest are pathetic.

kayanni
27th September 2005, 14:31
Nauman

Dont you agree with my point of Butt being picked and dropped far to regularly for him to have any confidence in Test Matches

At least in ODI's he knows his position is secure and thats why he regularly performs in this format of the game

Nauman
27th September 2005, 14:37
Dont you agree with my point of Butt being picked and dropped far to regularly for him to have any confidence in Test Matches

I agree either you have him in the side and dont drop him for a good period of 6 to 12 months or just drop him let him play in domestic circuit and A team for a couple of years and then have him in the side. Constant dropping and having him back in the side is doing him no good.

Noddy
27th September 2005, 14:43
Butt making life hard to retain his spot
If Taufeeq gets runs, he will have a chance....

kayanni
27th September 2005, 14:44
Zaidi goes as well bowled throught the gate...

Farhat has had too many chance for him to be considered as a potential opener any more

kayanni
27th September 2005, 14:45
Raza plays on 16-4

Jedi Knight
27th September 2005, 14:47
Team in big trouble...

kayanni
27th September 2005, 14:47
Noddy - Taufeeq does not inspire confidence at all - Butt is the better long term prospect and has age on his side...

He just needs Bob to show him confidence in the test match scene as shown in Aus in the 2nd and 3rd Matches

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 14:47
raza goes aswell!

A LOST CAUSE NOW

Noddy
27th September 2005, 14:50
Taufeeq is or was low on confidence not ability....
This is game over by all accounts.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:00
Taufeeq is or was low on confidence not ability....
This is game over by all accounts.

Though chance for Faisal Iqbal to wash himself in glory with a defiant innings.

He has got the overs and he could bat for a long time.

Noddy
27th September 2005, 15:01
and Bazid, too.....

Sheikh_Ji
27th September 2005, 15:03
we r getting shhhpannkked

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:03
And Faisal already edges one past gully for 4.

C'mon Faisal, we are right beind you!

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:06
and Bazid, too.....

Of the following schools yaar, which ones would you know the best?

A) St Mary's Lalazar
B) Sir Syed, Mall Road
C) Gordon College
D) Asghar Mall College

Noddy
27th September 2005, 15:08
i dont know all of them.....i was based outside of lahore for several years.....

bazid shaping up nicely!

kayanni
27th September 2005, 15:12
Noddy

Taufeeq might have ability but i dont think he is the long term solution

Noddy
27th September 2005, 15:15
who is the complete answer...
we dont have the pairing set yet, and we never will if we chop and change all the time and too often...the facts have been put out already.....

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:15
i dont know all of them.....i was based outside of lahore for several years.....

bazid shaping up nicely!

Im sure we have played together - but not telling anyone who you are!

At any rate I kind of gave up cricket around 1980-81 and went to the US a couple of years later.

Back to Bazid - not sure about his defense, especially footwork, but does play some beautiful shots. Seems to have modelled himself on Inzi rather than dad MJK.

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:17
Bazid is going to be the hero and take us home. Mark my words.

tahaqureshi
27th September 2005, 15:17
score now?

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:19
Bazid is going to be the hero and take us home. Mark my words.

You jinxed it!

Only joking of course!

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:20
so much for Faisal Iqbal.

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 15:20
faisal iqbal has just been bowled!!!

bazid going at nearly run a bowl on 35

57/5 13 overs

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:20
Bazid will probably go into ultra defence mode now

kayanni
27th September 2005, 15:21
Noddy

True - the pairing is the key and i suspect that for Eng Bob will go for Afridi and Malik as this allows his to play Razzaq as well and also have 3 pacers and 3 spinners.

If not then Malik will drop for Butt and we will go in with 3 and 2

Whats your considered opinion

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 15:22
lets see what yasir arafat does. if he can do well he should be our super sub

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:23
Bazid is going to be the hero and take us home. Mark my words.

I'm reading the ball by ball commentary.

Looks like two different matches going on out there:

A) When Bazid is on strike, you read TOP SHOT for 4 - already hit 6 beautiful boundaries according to the scorer.

B) When the other batters are playing, they can barely keep the ball out.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:24
Bazid will probably go into ultra defence mode now

So many people think he is a strokeless wonder - who cant play on the off side!

Where are they now?


(Just teasing you guys ok...)

tahaqureshi
27th September 2005, 15:25
I guess Bazid, Hasan Raza and Malik are the ones who have shone through in this Aus A Tour. And possibly M Asif.

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:26
fair play- yeh I know but according to some people he isn't good enough to play for Pakistan so we might as well forget about him. Waste of time him playing in this game. In fact, it is an absolute disgrace that he was even selected and Woolmer is a donkey for doing that.::J

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 15:26
umar gul has done well considering he has just come back from a serious injury

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:29
the important thing for Gul is that he gets his match fitness back. Any 'good stats' he gets in the bowling department is just a bonus and the great thing is that he has been playing quite regularly (and so getting back to fitness) and has been getting some good stats as well!

I would play him as the third bowler against England.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:30
fair play- yeh I know but according to some people he isn't good enough to play for Pakistan so we might as well forget about him. Waste of time him playing in this game. In fact, it is an absolute disgrace that he was even selected and Woolmer is a donkey for doing that.::J

Absolutely - and he cant play on the off side!

And he has no strokes!

And what would that fairplay know about batting!

And he has hit 7 boundaries all edges of course! Lucky guy!

Umm - actually 7 perfectly struck magnificent boundaries! Lucky anyway!

:)

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:35
15b20lovely delivery, short in length, outside off and moves away, tries to defend it, misses the outside edge on the way to keeper

see that fair play. He is rubbish! He can't even hit a lovely delivery! He played and missed once! This shows a real flaw in his batting and he would really come unstuck in the first team. All his contacts thanks to his father! The PCB are a disgrace!

MIG
27th September 2005, 15:36
I dont know why I check this thread for good news.....Phir Pitaay yay log ! One match they are the best - the nexy one we are back to our 60/5 type scores..... I suppose that is consistency.

And yes, Bazid is standing out in all this ....

Nauman
27th September 2005, 15:37
Bazid has been a treat to watch all other batsmen look like fools when you compare them to Bazid he has shifted between front and back foot beautifully, timed the ball cant remember a single stroke which has been forced.

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:37
Yasir Arafat is on 0 off 7.

Either he is trying to be funny by doing a Hafeez impression or he hasn't realised that we need over 6 per over to win this match.

Nauman
27th September 2005, 15:39
Yasir Arafat is on 0 off 7.

Either he is trying to be funny by doing a Hafeez impression or he hasn't realised that we need over 6 per over to win this match.

The guy bats like a tail ender I dont know why and how he scored runs previously.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:39
I dont know why I check this thread for good news.....Phir Pitaay yay log ! One match they are the best - the nexy one we are back to our 60/5 type scores..... I suppose that is consistency.

And yes, Bazid is standing out in all this ....

More than just standing out I think.

Not just some lucky hit and miss 40 by the sound of it, but full of high class strokes on both sides of the wicket.

I say:

HE IS NOT AS BAD AS YOU GUYS MAKE HIM OUT TO BE, OR WOULD LIKE TO BE.

That's all.

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 15:40
65-5 16 overs gone
bazid on 45*
yasir yet to get off mark

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:40
Yeah, bats like a tail ender (ie Hafeez)


Watson to Yasir Arafat
full ball, outside off, leans in to it and drives it on the front foot through covers for four




Finally! Think he realised that his Hafeez impression wasn't really that funny.

MIG
27th September 2005, 15:41
Stupid question No: 189790

Can Bazid open for Pak ?

tahaqureshi
27th September 2005, 15:42
Lewis to Bazid Khan
Great shot! full ball, on middle and leg stump, drives it downt he ground, ball clips the leg stump on the bowling end and races away to mid-on fence for four

waquas_uk
27th September 2005, 15:42
they've given everyone else a try why not him?

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:43
65-5 16 overs gone
bazid on 45*
yasir yet to get off mark


The run rate is not too bad - but one more wicket and the fat lady will pick up the mike.

tahaqureshi
27th September 2005, 15:44
But Im afriad the PCB are so stupid that if they try him as opener and if he fails (God forbid but I wouldnt blame him one bit) then they may forget that he is actually a middle order batsman and may see no use for him, forgetting that he can be the future of Pak's middle order.

Nauman
27th September 2005, 15:44
Stupid question No: 189790

Can Bazid open for Pak ?

Why not lets have Malik and Bazid opening, seriously why not one of the senior players in the side take responsibility and open like Flemming did.

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:49
we opened with Hafeez for so long why not give Bazid a go?

He can't be much worse than Yasir Hameed, Taufeeq Umar and Imran Farhat.

Nauman
27th September 2005, 15:50
Yasir Arafat also goes, looks like fat lady has started singing but I cant hear her over the horrible commentary by PTV commentators.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:50
we opened with Hafeez for so long why not give Bazid a go?

He can't be much worse than Yasir Hameed, Taufeeq Umar and Imran Farhat.

But he is!

That is the majority opinion.

Didnt even make 50 this time you see.

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:52
is he out fair play?

Nauman
27th September 2005, 15:54
is he out fair play?

Nope, it was Yasir Arafat who got out, looks like FP's nephew is giving him wrong reports.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:54
Yasir Arafat also goes, looks like fat lady has started singing but I cant hear her over the horrible commentary by PTV commentators.

So Nauman, has the ball been doing a bit, or our batters to blame?

I see that apart from Bazid not even other guy managed double figures.

Hash
27th September 2005, 15:55
Zulqarnain is a brilliant batsman.

Bazid Khan and Zulqarnain Haider will take us home.

One will get out towards the end but we will still win by 3 wickets.

Anyone want a bet on that? Ł100,000?

fair_play
27th September 2005, 15:56
Nope, it was Yasir Arafat who got out, looks like FP's nephew is giving him wrong reports.

I didnt say he was out yet.

I said he has not even managed to get to 50 so far.

Nauman
27th September 2005, 15:57
So Nauman, has the ball been doing a bit, or our batters to blame?

I see that apart from Bazid not even other guy managed double figures.

Ball doesnt seem to be doing much apparently apart from the fact that it help up a bit early on and batsmen went for shots on the up and so forth getting out (Hassan Raza and Faisal Iqbal). Butt played across the line, Farhat got a nasty one bounced quite a bit from good length and Zaidi was just awefull playing away from the body. You wait for the ball and play it on merit its easy just as Bazid is doing, he hasnt done anything special just kept it simple and played his natural game.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 16:01
Ball doesnt seem to be doing much apparently apart from the fact that it help up a bit early on and batsmen went for shots on the up and so forth getting out (Hassan Raza and Faisal Iqbal). Butt played across the line, Farhat got a nasty one bounced quite a bit from good length and Zaidi was just awefull playing away from the body. You wait for the ball and play it on merit its easy just as Bazid is doing, he hasnt done anything special just kept it simple and played his natural game.

Thanks.

Interesting. My nephew will doubtless update me if can be bothered.

What you say was my guess as well because not one of Bazid's 8 boundaries has been a lucky edge etc. All proper shots at least according to the scorers. That usually means that the pitch and conditions aren't that bad.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 16:17
100 for 7.

Not a single guy reaching double figures.

Bad day at the office as well.

Also, while I was enjoying myself teasing all the Bazid bashers, they seem to have sheepishly disappeared! I was only joking guys.

Next time he fails, you can bring out all the bile again - its all good fun anyway.

Hash
27th September 2005, 16:26
122 for 7

Pakistan will win this match

Hash
27th September 2005, 16:31
Pakistan A 133 for 7

Bazid Khan 70 (78)
Tahir Khan 18 (17)

fair_play
27th September 2005, 16:42
who is Tahir khan?

Hash
27th September 2005, 16:42
143 for 7 after 30.3 overs

Bazid Khan not out 76 (86)
Tahir Khan not out 22 (22)

zaf1986
27th September 2005, 16:47
who is Tahir khan?
offspinning allrounder from Karachi.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 16:47
143 for 7 after 30.3 overs

Bazid Khan not out 76 (86)
Tahir Khan not out 22 (22)

Dont hold your breath. Not enough wickets left though the run rate is decent still.

But good fightback overall.

Hash
27th September 2005, 16:51
we will win.

152 for 7 after 33 overs

Bazid Khan not out 84 (96)
Tahir Khan not out 24 (31)

fair_play
27th September 2005, 16:52
we will win.

152 for 7 after 33 overs

Bazid Khan not out 84 (96)
Tahir Khan not out 24 (31)

man you are optmistic, but I like it.

Monsee
27th September 2005, 16:55
FP check the "Bazid Khan Clips" thread...I bumped it for you oh yea the old man who gets beat by his wife in jogging:D :P

fair_play
27th September 2005, 16:57
FP check the "Bazid Khan Clips" thread...I bumped it for you oh yea the old man who gets beat by his wife in jogging:D :P

Haha, I'll check the clips - thanks yaar.

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 17:02
Just checked the score and I see that the boys are atleast showing some fighting spirit. This fighting spirit has been lacking and its good to see some pride and go down fighting.

Hash
27th September 2005, 17:03
160 for 8 now

We are still going to win though.

Another full length diving catch. That is the third in our innings.

KaSaNoVa_G
27th September 2005, 17:08
9 down.. aint going to win..


lets hope bazid khan getz his 100 atleast...

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 17:10
Shame to loose but atleast some boys showed their worth

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 17:11
In the end I think they gave too many runs away

Hash
27th September 2005, 17:13
what the hell is Mohammed Asif doing?

why does he keep stealing the strike at the end of the over?

Monsee
27th September 2005, 17:13
Check Bazid's pic out FP...He looks like 50 years old already :)

http://cricketarchive.com/pictures/3/3003.

Hash
27th September 2005, 17:14
Bazid gone. Asif was putting to much pressure on him by giving him just one ball per over. Great stuff by Asif!

176 all out.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 17:16
pity.

think if he had got his 100 he would opened his shoulders and the match might have been fun.

stupid batting by mohammad asif there.

kayanni
27th September 2005, 17:19
thing is if you take out Bazid's 95 then the remaining 9 batters and Mr Extras scored 81 runs between them - pathetic batting

So it seems Butt, Malik, Gul, Raza and Bazid have cemented their postions in the first team squad

Monsee
27th September 2005, 17:28
So did we miss Mr. Bits-n-pieces player today or what:D

IMMY69
27th September 2005, 17:29
i cant imagine how people can blame asif (no.11) for his stupid batting!!! are people out of their minds?

if asif was taking a single at the end of each over then surely all bazid had to do was to turn down the single..

anyway good knock by bazid khan..surely now a contender for the opening position in the test line-up.

yk
27th September 2005, 17:44
Did the aussies get a trophy?

Hash
27th September 2005, 17:45
Overall a pretty decent tour for Pakistan.

Mohammed Sami
Bazid Khan
Shoaib Malik
Umar Gul

to name a few of the players hwo have shown some good touch.

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 17:59
I dont think you can blame a no.11 batsman. like some one said Bazid should've declined the single. At any rate the game was gone, how many more blows would Bazid get if he'd got over his 100.

I wonder if he is opening batsman material. I saw the highlights of the first game which someone kindly provided a link for and noticed that the top order batsmen have a problem if not knowning which ball to leave, all the balls they got out to should have been left - simple. Even in a one day game there is plenty of time and if you've left 6-10 balls so what - you can easily make them up when your're and seeing the ball nicely and scoring heavily.

You need a good temparament to build an innnings - which Bazid does have from what we have seen today. However I agree there are questions marks of his technique to play as a genuine opening or middle order batsman.

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 18:01
btw - can we get a link to the 2nd & 3rd ODI highlights ??

fair_play
27th September 2005, 18:08
I dont think you can blame a no.11 batsman. like some one said Bazid should've declined the single. At any rate the game was gone, how many more blows would Bazid get if he'd got over his 100.

I wonder if he is opening batsman material. I saw the highlights of the first game which someone kindly provided a link for and noticed that the top order batsmen have a problem if not knowning which ball to leave, all the balls they got out to should have been left - simple. Even in a one day game there is plenty of time and if you've left 6-10 balls so what - you can easily make them up when your're and seeing the ball nicely and scoring heavily.

You need a good temparament to build an innnings - which Bazid does have from what we have seen today. However I agree there are questions marks of his technique to play as a genuine opening or middle order batsman.

If Bazid has question marks over his technique then trust me the other guys have even more question marks.

Certainly, those question marks dont seem to have raised their heads today eh? It wasnt like it was a chancy innings either. Perfectly conceived and perfectly executed.

Apart from the question marks you see, and apart from liking his temperament, is there anything in terms of ability and technique you do like?

I am curious. Lets talk about his strenghts for a change. Does he have any unusual strenghts, is there something that strikes you?

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 18:30
I'm certainly happy to see someone who has patience in todays game to construct an innings so that really is a plus. He didnt have the support today otherwise he would've made a century.

Dont get me wrong - all players get better with time and experience. When I have seen him play in WI I wasnt really impressed. I could see he had good defensive technique and shots on the on-side but no attractive strokes on the off-side.

And to me it seems that a number of players (not all by any means) are one-dimensional. They are either good on the off or leg.

I saw some aussies this year in the ashes which had the same characteristics.

Any how i think it is good to see Bazid doing well and he has good defensive technique and scoring ability so he may able to adapt to the test match opening spot or even ODI.

The main problem for some of our players is insecurity - they need a good run so that they can play knowing that they will be persevered and will be show what they are made off.

But also remember that in the ODI and test games a successful batsman now requires all the following capabilities and anything less, he really has to work hard;

Temparament/patience - ability to play under pressure and take the offensive approach when possible
technique - able to play conventional swing, reverse, seam and quality spin bowling
Contruction of an innings - having short milestones
Good communications with our partner
to name a few

So I would like to hope that Bazid will be perservered with and given the chance to flourish and develop his game.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 18:35
[QUOTE=brumy-boy]

When I have seen him play in WI I wasnt really impressed. I could see he had good defensive technique and shots on the on-side but no attractive strokes on the off-side.

And to me it seems that a number of players (not all by any means) are one-dimensional. They are either good on the off or leg.

QUOTE]


Well maybe you watched just one innings and made hasty judgement.

Here's a link of a couple of off-side boundaries from the same West Indian tour - posted by Monsee. Just click on the green link and it will pop up.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=8932

Monsee
27th September 2005, 18:36
I'm certainly happy to see someone who has patience in todays game to construct an innings so that really is a plus. He didnt have the support today otherwise he would've made a century.

Dont get me wrong - all players get better with time and experience. When I have seen him play in WI I wasnt really impressed. I could see he had good defensive technique and shots on the on-side but no attractive strokes on the off-side.





I suggest you see a few shots he played in the "Bazid Khan Clips" thread:)

Somali Pirate
27th September 2005, 18:40
so on a good batting track the batting collapses.It seems this disease is prevalent in pakistan

Monsee
27th September 2005, 18:46
so on a good batting track the batting collapses.It seems this disease is prevalent in pakistan



Took you quite a while to notice that, eh:D

Could have asked me a while ago...no wonder you keep putting players down that are no worse than the ones who are not in the Senior team

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 18:48
thanks for the clips - yes he looks good.

I agree he looks a very good candidate for the future - i hope PAK keep faith in him and develop him. Someone said Hasan raza and Bazid for the future - I hope so too.

I just hope that players are given a fair chance to prove themselves - thats it. The coach should work out strategies for them to improve and they should work hard at them and when given the chance they are in a better position to deliver!!!

Somali Pirate
27th September 2005, 18:51
Took you quite a while to notice that, eh:D

Could have asked me a while ago...no wonder you keep putting players down that are no worse than the ones who are not in the Senior team

well i just came from uni right now so i did'nt catch up:D

fair_play
27th September 2005, 18:54
well i just came from uni right now so i did'nt catch up:D

Are you from Pindi and studying Maths and physics in London?

Monsee
27th September 2005, 18:58
He might be from Pindi but he is specializing in "Bits-n-Pieces" theories:P

Toony™®
27th September 2005, 19:03
so , we lost eh?

good thing i went to sleep.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 19:08
He might be from Pindi but he is specializing in "Bits-n-Pieces" theories:P

Well I hold degrees in Maths and theoretical physics as well (both from the US and the UK) and was hoping maybe he was just having a bad day at the office, and I could reason with him.

He has ignored my point about Bazid making 647 runs in 12 successive outings for Pakistan A or Pakistan at an average of 64.7

He is still going by his assertion of "one swallow does not a summer make!"

Nauman
27th September 2005, 19:10
I just hope that players are given a fair chance to prove themselves - thats it. The coach should work out strategies for them to improve and they should work hard at them and when given the chance they are in a better position to deliver!!!
This is Pakistan we are talking about there are only 2 players in past 10 years of Pakistan cricket which have been given consistent chances without performing namely Sami and Afridi (though he has started to show a bit of consistency).

Somali Pirate
27th September 2005, 19:13
He might be from Pindi but he is specializing in "Bits-n-Pieces" theories:P

:D

Somali Pirate
27th September 2005, 19:15
Well I hold degrees in Maths and theoretical physics as well (both from the US and the UK) and was hoping maybe he was just having a bad day at the office, and I could reason with him.

He has ignored my point about Bazid making 647 runs in 12 successive outings for Pakistan A or Pakistan at an average of 64.7

He is still going by his assertion of "one swallow does not a summer make!"

no bro, i specialise in bio medics.

Just think bazid ain't cut for an out an out opener.23 of 25 in the middle order against wi ain't that great.

he has to compete with raza or kamal for a miidle order place

fair_play
27th September 2005, 19:28
no bro, i specialise in bio medics.

Just think bazid ain't cut for an out an out opener.23 of 25 in the middle order against wi ain't that great.

he has to compete with raza or kamal for a miidle order place


Aha, I should have realised the bio-medics.

Serge Lang, well known mathematician at Yale, has estimated that if dubious statistics and erroneous conclusions were properly indentified in most biologiocal/medical research then 75% of all medical research papers would be thrown out of libraries, freeing up much needed shelf space.

Tread on statistics with care - and dont use exceptions to prove the rule does not hold.

The study of correlation is critical in medicine - often porrly used - but you seem to be chucking even that away!

Somali Pirate
27th September 2005, 19:37
Aha, I should have realised the bio-medics.

Serge Lang, well known mathematician at Yale, has estimated that if dubious statistics and erroneous conclusions were properly indentified in most biologiocal/medical research then 75% of all medical research papers would be thrown out of libraries, freeing up much needed shelf space.

Tread on statistics with care - and dont use exceptions to prove the rule does not hold.

The study of correlation is critical in medicine - often porrly used - but you seem to be chucking even that away!

:)) There goes my degree.

But i am not doing any research....who would any way?
Just want to work in the nhs as medical Lab officer.With govt increasing health service budget i thought it's a good career move:11:

But i can't believe we are doing stats this year.What does god damn math go to do with human sciences?

fair_play
27th September 2005, 19:52
:)) There goes my degree.

But i am not doing any research....who would any way?
Just want to work in the nhs as medical Lab officer.With govt increasing health service budget i thought it's a good career move:11:

But i can't believe we are doing stats this year.What does god damn math go to do with human sciences?

Because you need to understand how conclusion are reached.

In science, cause and effect is established by studying correlations. Of course, postive correlations dont imply cause and effect - so the converse isnt true.

I think I'm going to stick to BUPA rather than the NHS from now on....

brumy-boy
27th September 2005, 19:53
This is Pakistan we are talking about there are only 2 players in past 10 years of Pakistan cricket which have been given consistent chances without performing namely Sami and Afridi (though he has started to show a bit of consistency).


that might be true - but look at who has supported them - there has never been a professional coaching approach in pakistan like that has begun under bob, i think this is a good start and i really hope we can as much as possible emulate the systems of australia and england.

I know its not that easy but I hope that one day it will become a reality.

If you like at other teams there are players who emerged that needed time to flourish even Freddie has taken his time to become the star he is today.

So during the 90s i believe these guys got chances but not all the time and therefore were not able to develop properly - add to that the lack of proper coaching like that you see in australia or england and south africa!!!

So no wonder they have taken so long and still trying to find consistency in their game.

fair_play
27th September 2005, 20:25
Check Bazid's pic out FP...He looks like 50 years old already :)

http://cricketarchive.com/pictures/3/3003.


Hahaha!

Maybe that explains the maturity in his batting!

akpower
28th September 2005, 00:06
y do we have to bring back taufeeq's name in all the time. i think we can move on... it will be interesting to see who will open. we dont even have one SET opener. Salman i think honestly needs more time. he is an outstanding prospect but he's styll got some issues with his batting. Although pretty much everyone of our youngsters does.

honsetly wouldnt mind if malik is played in tests as opener. and early indicators suggest even Salman is going nowhere. in any case, Raza n Bazid shd most definetely be in the picture, i mean they shd be in the squad. Asim Kamal, on the other hand, has not done himself any good by not really doing anything of notice in the last few matches he's played.

Monsee
28th September 2005, 00:24
Hahaha!

Maybe that explains the maturity in his batting!

http://cricketarchive.com/pictures/3/3003





And what's up with that Shirt Collar...can it be any bigger than that

Maybe he borrowed one from somebody for the pic

In the pic he looks like someone who just lost his job, his Begum left him for the Meikaay, is utterly depressed, and has been doing shots of a certain liquid of choice:P

Fawad
28th September 2005, 01:07
And what's up with that Shirt Collar...can it be any bigger than that

Maybe he borrowed one from somebody for the pic

In the pic he looks like someone who just lost his job, his Begum left him for the Meikaay, is utterly depressed, and has been doing shots of a certain liquid of choice:P

Kind of reminds me of Al Pacino in Scarface.;-)

Monsee
28th September 2005, 01:13
Kind of reminds me of Al Pacino in Scarface.;-)


Right on the money "My Little Friend":D

Easa
29th September 2005, 15:32
Right on the money "My Little Friend":D


hAhA yEAH :)) :)))

Salman
29th September 2005, 15:42
Check Bazid's pic out FP...He looks like 50 years old already :)

http://cricketarchive.com/pictures/3/3003.




More like Herman Munster! :))

http://www.space-debris.com/com_gwynne_munst.jpg