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Looney
5th March 2010, 20:32
why do we use the word "tu" for Allah? i was not allowed to speak like that even with little children. i had to use the word "tum" for them and "aap" for elders. it is all about showing respect. so why use the word tu for Allaah and not something more respectful, like aap.

12thMan
5th March 2010, 20:41
True that I was not allowed or atleast discouraged to say tu. Sounded like street language when taken as Urdu. Maybe Punjabi has regular usage and not the same (I am referring to tussi which probably comes from tu)

AZ
5th March 2010, 20:48
same as with you 2, I always use Aap, Tu sounds too rude.

Looney
5th March 2010, 21:02
so why then do we use Tu for Allah? we should be using Aap.even for Hazrat Mohammad [saw], we use aap.

d0gers
6th March 2010, 01:19
I think it signifies closeness to God. I'll sometimes use 'Tu' when speaking to friends and it's because I know them well enough and have a comfort level where this is acceptable. Although I guess this is just the Punjabi influence I've had.

Also, "Aap" can mean plural (as in "Aap log") which in the case of Allah we try to avoid altogether as Allah is wholly singular.

And sometimes you don't even have to use 'Tu'. For example, "Ya Allah mujhay bacha lay", the only way this makes sense is if it's in the 'Tu' form, otherwise you would say "Ya Allah mujhay bacha lo" for 'Tum', or "Ya Allah mujhay bacha lain" for 'Aap'. If that makes any sense.

Mohsin
6th March 2010, 20:24
Does it really matter, i use 'aap' myself (for anyone older than me, Allah etc...as i have been taught to respect BUT does it really matter if someone was to say 'tu' even though they still have the same love and respect in their heart as someone saying 'aap' does?

Its all about whats in the heart and Allah knows...whats on the outside makes no difference imo.

Boi
6th March 2010, 22:40
When I speak to elders in my family I either use 'aap' or 'tussi' depending on whether I'm speaking Urdu or Punjabi.
'Tu' does sound a little rude, thus I don't use that while referring to elders.:)

lil saeed anwar
28th March 2010, 03:51
I think its because " tu " refers to something - could be an object, but when you say " aap " or " tum", you are basically referring to human beings or something that is alive. I think this is why they say " tu " to Allah (SWT) . But you've got a really good point .

Munda Pakistani
25th December 2010, 03:07
Gramatically, 'tu' is the correct term to use when addressing one person. 'Tum' and 'aap'
is for addressing two or more people. So 'tu' for God emphasises His Unity.

saad1024
22nd April 2011, 20:59
Aap in Urdu is used to highlight plurality, which in our religion's context isn't obviously acceptable.

Btw, the words tu/tum are more commonplace among friends or people of same age. It gets awkward speaking to a friend using 'aap'. :P

Har ek baat pe kehte ho tum ke 'tu kya hai'
tumheen kaho ke yeh andaaz-e-guftaguu kyaa hai

-Ghalib :)

Looney
22nd April 2011, 21:43
thanks for explaining it to me so well :) it makes sense now .

i was a little confused because tu is considered badtameezi .

Last Monetarist
16th August 2018, 21:23
Vous.

Napa
18th August 2018, 16:06
Gramatically, 'tu' is the correct term to use when addressing one person. 'Tum' and 'aap'
is for addressing two or more people. So 'tu' for God emphasises His Unity.

This is most likely wrong.

Tu, tum and aap in Hindi (and therefore most likely Urdu and Punjabi which are sister languages) can be used for one person. More than one generally would be "tum log".

In Bengali (another sister Indo-European language) the forms for one person are "tui", "tumi" and "aapni", and for more than one would be "tomra".

In yet another Indo-European language, for one person it may be tu or vous, whereas for multiple persons it is vous.