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Umta
4th April 2010, 15:55
Must Read...for all readers

boom-boomx6
4th April 2010, 16:06
can u translate plz ..i cant read urdu ..ty

x2zee123
7th April 2010, 09:13
yea english plzz

Torpedo
29th September 2010, 04:58
can someone please translate this?

NJamal
29th September 2010, 06:19
Here is English Translation


This is the story of a person previously named Balbir Singh who took part in the destruction of Babri Masjid. He was Sikh at that time. He says that he was one of the first persons standing on the dome of Babri Masjid and striking it with a plow. He says that when he strike the first blow he felt an unusual type of fear and tension in his body. His situation became worse so his friends brought him down and took him to his home. On the way home all the people on the street were cheering for him like a hero. But when he reached his home his father who was a teacher didnt let him enter his home. His father said to him that I am giving lessons of brotherhood to my pupils of different religion but you my son had done such a shameful act.

Balbir Singh said that after that day his health started deteriorating fast and he was unable to perform any type of work. He approached doctors who told him that he will die in a couple of months. His friend and partner in destroying Babri Masjid Joginder Pal Singh was also suffering like him. Joginder Pal's situation was like a mad man tearing his clothes and teasing women. People started making fun of Joginder and started to throwing shoes on him in the streets. When Joginder's family saw this they locked him up in his home. They tried all the doctors, pundits and magicians but Joginder's situation was not improving. Then one day somebody told Joginder's father about Maulana Kaleem siddique. So he took his son to Maulana. Maulana told him to ask for forgiveness from Allah for your son's sins. Joginder's father stood in front of a local Masjid and started crying. By doing this Joginder's heath improved a little. When thay saw this they both father and son converted to Islam on 10th January 1993. Joginder changed his name to Muhammad Umar.

When Balbir heard about this he also approached Maulana Kaleem Siddique and converted to Islam on 11th June 1993. He said that after becoming Muslim his health and mental state improved gradually and he gained full health again. He said that a total of 27 persons who took part in the destruction of Babri Masjid converted to Islam on the hands of Maulana Kaleem Siddique. He said that politicians like Advani, Narinder Modi, Madan Lal Kurana, Uma Bharati, and Kalyaan Singh who were responsible for instigating people to destroy Babri Masjid are going down fast in their political careers after that day. He further said that all people who took part in the destruction are either dead, became mad or are suffering from different kinds of health problems after that day.

His friend Muhammad Umar( Joginder Pal) vowed to build 100 mosques for " Kafara" of taking part in destruction of Babri Masjid. Till now he had built 35 mosques. On every 6th of December he lays foundation of a new Mosque.

Balbir Singh changed his name to Muhammad Amir after converting. Muhammad Amir says that Islam is the true and pure religion. It is the religion of peace and all the accusations of terrorism on Islam are false.

dinakar
29th September 2010, 06:37
I didn't know there were Sikhs among the karsevaks. why do they join?

PerfectionPersonified
29th September 2010, 06:44
I thought they were all hindous who did this

Torpedo
29th September 2010, 07:26
Here is English Translation


This is the story of a person previously named Balbir Singh who took part in the destruction of Babri Masjid. He was Sikh at that time. He says that he was one of the first persons standing on the dome of Babri Masjid and striking it with a plow. He says that when he strike the first blow he felt an unusual type of fear and tension in his body. His situation became worse so his friends brought him down and took him to his home. On the way home all the people on the street were cheering for him like a hero. But when he reached his home his father who was a teacher didnt let him enter his home. His father said to him that I am giving lessons of brotherhood to my pupils of different religion but you my son had done such a shameful act.

Balbir Singh said that after that day his health started deteriorating fast and he was unable to perform any type of work. He approached doctors who told him that he will die in a couple of months. His friend and partner in destroying Babri Masjid Joginder Pal Singh was also suffering like him. Joginder Pal's situation was like a mad man tearing his clothes and teasing women. People started making fun of Joginder and started to throwing shoes on him in the streets. When Joginder's family saw this they locked him up in his home. They tried all the doctors, pundits and magicians but Joginder's situation was not improving. Then one day somebody told Joginder's father about Maulana Kaleem siddique. So he took his son to Maulana. Maulana told him to ask for forgiveness from Allah for your son's sins. Joginder's father stood in front of a local Masjid and started crying. By doing this Joginder's heath improved a little. When thay saw this they both father and son converted to Islam on 10th January 1993. Joginder changed his name to Muhammad Umar.

When Balbir heard about this he also approached Maulana Kaleem Siddique and converted to Islam on 11th June 1993. He said that after becoming Muslim his health and mental state improved gradually and he gained full health again. He said that a total of 27 persons who took part in the destruction of Babri Masjid converted to Islam on the hands of Maulana Kaleem Siddique. He said that politicians like Advani, Narinder Modi, Madan Lal Kurana, Uma Bharati, and Kalyaan Singh who were responsible for instigating people to destroy Babri Masjid are going down fast in their political careers after that day. He further said that all people who took part in the destruction are either dead, became mad or are suffering from different kinds of health problems after that day.

His friend Muhammad Umar( Joginder Pal) vowed to build 100 mosques for " Kafara" of taking part in destruction of Babri Masjid. Till now he had built 35 mosques. On every 6th of December he lays foundation of a new Mosque.

Balbir Singh changed his name to Muhammad Amir after converting. Muhammad Amir says that Islam is the true and pure religion. It is the religion of peace and all the accusations of terrorism on Islam are false.

Thanks for that, greatly appreciated. :)

Acim
29th September 2010, 07:33
and Why would he have to compensate for something which he did when he wasn't a muslim?

NJamal
29th September 2010, 07:56
and Why would he have to compensate for something which he did when he wasn't a muslim?

There is a thing called conscience.

easy_like_sunday
29th September 2010, 08:06
Whats fake about that @pull shot ? You are masala for mocking this let me tell you!

purplehaze
29th September 2010, 08:07
I was expecting this article to end with - If you share this story with 5 more friends, something good will happen to you and if you don't.... etc. etc.

Garuda
29th September 2010, 08:11
I was expecting this article to end with - If you share this story with 5 more friends, something good will happen to you and if you don't.... etc. etc.
:)))

Yah, it sounds fake and if true its just coincidence.

Else the same feeling could have felt by the rest of the stupids and the doom could have been saved. :))

easy_like_sunday
29th September 2010, 08:23
:)))

Yah, it sounds fake and if true its just coincidence.

Else the same feeling could have felt by the rest of the stupids and the doom could have been saved. :))

Like we bothered what you think!

Acim
29th September 2010, 08:36
There is a thing called conscience.

But the article sounds like, he has to do it not something he is doing it out of conscience.

The WagonWheel
29th September 2010, 08:42
The message might be correct - but the story is false ....

NJamal
29th September 2010, 08:45
The message might be correct - but the story is false ....

And how do you know that its false?

Torpedo
29th September 2010, 08:49
Here is a different version of the story.

Part 1
http://www.monthlycrescent.com/my-journey-to-islam/mosque-breakers-become-mosque-makers/

Part 2
http://www.monthlycrescent.com/my-journey-to-islam/mosque-breakers-become-mosque-makers-ii/

Garuda
29th September 2010, 08:55
Like we bothered what you think!
I never expected you to be bothered ;)

The WagonWheel
29th September 2010, 09:56
And how do you know that its false?

There were multiple such stories that were going around in mid-90's. I've read both the Hindu versions as well as Muslim versions. Hindu versions claimed that the Muslim care-taker of the masjid started hallucinating about cows and characters of Ramayana et al ...

Never believed either....

Gabbar Singh
29th September 2010, 11:11
Here is English Translation


This is the story of a person previously named Balbir Singh who took part in the destruction of Babri Masjid. He was Sikh at that time. He says that he was one of the first persons standing on the dome of Babri Masjid and striking it with a plow. He says that when he strike the first blow he felt an unusual type of fear and tension in his body. His situation became worse so his friends brought him down and took him to his home. On the way home all the people on the street were cheering for him like a hero. But when he reached his home his father who was a teacher didnt let him enter his home. His father said to him that I am giving lessons of brotherhood to my pupils of different religion but you my son had done such a shameful act.

Balbir Singh said that after that day his health started deteriorating fast and he was unable to perform any type of work. He approached doctors who told him that he will die in a couple of months. His friend and partner in destroying Babri Masjid Joginder Pal Singh was also suffering like him. Joginder Pal's situation was like a mad man tearing his clothes and teasing women. People started making fun of Joginder and started to throwing shoes on him in the streets. When Joginder's family saw this they locked him up in his home. They tried all the doctors, pundits and magicians but Joginder's situation was not improving. Then one day somebody told Joginder's father about Maulana Kaleem siddique. So he took his son to Maulana. Maulana told him to ask for forgiveness from Allah for your son's sins. Joginder's father stood in front of a local Masjid and started crying. By doing this Joginder's heath improved a little. When thay saw this they both father and son converted to Islam on 10th January 1993. Joginder changed his name to Muhammad Umar.

When Balbir heard about this he also approached Maulana Kaleem Siddique and converted to Islam on 11th June 1993. He said that after becoming Muslim his health and mental state improved gradually and he gained full health again. He said that a total of 27 persons who took part in the destruction of Babri Masjid converted to Islam on the hands of Maulana Kaleem Siddique. He said that politicians like Advani, Narinder Modi, Madan Lal Kurana, Uma Bharati, and Kalyaan Singh who were responsible for instigating people to destroy Babri Masjid are going down fast in their political careers after that day. He further said that all people who took part in the destruction are either dead, became mad or are suffering from different kinds of health problems after that day.

His friend Muhammad Umar( Joginder Pal) vowed to build 100 mosques for " Kafara" of taking part in destruction of Babri Masjid. Till now he had built 35 mosques. On every 6th of December he lays foundation of a new Mosque.

Balbir Singh changed his name to Muhammad Amir after converting. Muhammad Amir says that Islam is the true and pure religion. It is the religion of peace and all the accusations of terrorism on Islam are false.


So God wrecked his health and sanity eh?

Shame the same didn't happen to the ringleaders Advani & co ;)

The WagonWheel
29th September 2010, 11:23
Here is a different version of the story.

Part 1
http://www.monthlycrescent.com/my-journey-to-islam/mosque-breakers-become-mosque-makers/

Part 2
http://www.monthlycrescent.com/my-journey-to-islam/mosque-breakers-become-mosque-makers-ii/

hahaha what a load of tosh !! Shiv Sena big in Panipat, Haryana ?? LOL ...
Not only does the author know a thing about Haryana. He neither knows a thing about Shiv Sena too........ Till 1991 - Shiv Sena had not even contested any assembly elections apart from Maharashtra/Goa.

I remember in mid 90's the 20 candidates of Shiv Sena got just 5000 odd votes in Punjab and Haryana combined ....

Fallen King
29th September 2010, 20:38
So God wrecked his health and sanity eh?

Shame the same didn't happen to the ringleaders Advani & co ;)

He said that politicians like Advani, Narinder Modi, Madan Lal Kurana, Uma Bharati, and Kalyaan Singh who were responsible for instigating people to destroy Babri Masjid are going down fast in their political careers after that day. He further said that all people who took part in the destruction are either dead, became mad or are suffering from different kinds of health problems after that day.

Read the whole interview. Islam can do the wonder, and only the truly religion in the world. There will be someone will not digest the truth, and try to ignore the truth. I feel sorry for them.

After the 9/11, more than 1 Million people converted to Islam in that year in USA, and just imagine, how many must have been converted to Islam by now. Allah is great.

Stewie
29th September 2010, 21:16
sorry but this doesnt sound right to me.. it reads like propaganda.

Rudi hater
29th September 2010, 21:19
Why do people think its a masala news? majority of sub contienent was non muslim. Islam is the fastest growing religion. So if people think its fake you know so little.

cric
29th September 2010, 21:23
Totally Masala news and fake.Just in the name of Islam people are ready to write and read anything.

A moulana came in our mosque. he said that 100s of Hindus who was involved in breaking ( sahid) babri masjid converted to islam. and most of them were big BJP Leaders.

Faisalabadimunda
29th September 2010, 21:31
Mashallah.No doubt Islam is the truth.

umarkairanvi
3rd February 2011, 04:49
Maulana Kaleem Siddiqui is a world class Da'ee & more than 4 lackh peoples accepted islam on his hand
http://phulat.blogspot.com/

A video Link balbeer singh with Maulana Kaleem siddiqui (Lecture clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUeZqKoLOhE

urdu interview with Urdu newspaper pic
بلبیرسنگھ: سابق صدر، شیو سینا یوتھ ونگ کی اسلام قبول کرکے ماسٹر محمد
عامرہونے کی کہانی خود اُن کی زبانی
http://newmuslimsindia.blogspot.com/2010/03/blog-post.html

21 New Muslims Interviews
http://windsofislam.blogspot.com/

interview with Hindi newspaper pic
मास्टर मुहम्मद आमिर (बलबीर सिंह, पूर्व शिवसेना युवा शाखा अध्*यक्ष) से एक मुलाकात
http://hamarianjuman.blogspot.com/2010/04/interview.html

tempus123
26th September 2015, 05:06
I was expecting this article to end with - If you share this story with 5 more friends, something good will happen to you and if you don't.... etc. etc.


:)))

Yah, it sounds fake and if true its just coincidence.

Else the same feeling could have felt by the rest of the stupids and the doom could have been saved. :))

True.. very funny story.

tempus123
26th September 2015, 05:07
A moulana came in our mosque. he said that 100s of Hindus who was involved in breaking ( sahid) babri masjid converted to islam. and most of them were big BJP Leaders.

Name one of those BJP leaders, will ya ?

tempus123
26th September 2015, 05:09
He said that politicians like Advani, Narinder Modi, Madan Lal Kurana, Uma Bharati, and Kalyaan Singh who were responsible for instigating people to destroy Babri Masjid are going down fast in their political careers after that day. He further said that all people who took part in the destruction are either dead, became mad or are suffering from different kinds of health problems after that day.

Read the whole interview. Islam can do the wonder, and only the truly religion in the world. There will be someone will not digest the truth, and try to ignore the truth. I feel sorry for them.

After the 9/11, more than 1 Million people converted to Islam in that year in USA, and just imagine, how many must have been converted to Islam by now. Allah is great.

Narendra Modi is now the PM of India.. surely went down in his political career. AB Vajpayee became PM and Advani became home minister.

Couldn't get the gist of highlighted part at all.

DrSchultz
26th September 2015, 08:04
Nothing in Urdu newspapers can be trusted.

Vayuu
26th September 2015, 08:32
Why do people think its a masala news? majority of sub contienent was non muslim. Islam is the fastest growing religion. So if people think its fake you know so little.
Kaka ji ,if I put a gun on your head and threaten you and ur family of dire consequences, tell me what will you do, from bin qasim to gaznavi to gauri to babur to aurangzeb have all been like this, not to forget, taimur, changez, abdali, nadir shah, the fastest growing religion is atheism .

Sandeep
26th September 2015, 09:22
What the.. :)))

Stupid articles!

JaDed
26th September 2015, 09:38
He said that politicians like Advani, Narinder Modi, Madan Lal Kurana, Uma Bharati, and Kalyaan Singh who were responsible for instigating people to destroy Babri Masjid are going down fast in their political careers after that day. He further said that all people who took part in the destruction are either dead, became mad or are suffering from different kinds of health problems after that day.

Read the whole interview. Islam can do the wonder, and only the truly religion in the world. There will be someone will not digest the truth, and try to ignore the truth. I feel sorry for them.

After the 9/11, more than 1 Million people converted to Islam in that year in USA, and just imagine, how many must have been converted to Islam by now. Allah is great.

Wow about the prediction certainly turned out right.

tempus123
26th September 2015, 09:40
Wow about the prediction certainly turned out right.
Fallen King will justify it..

Fallen King
26th September 2015, 16:30
Digging five years old thread now? I am not gonna read the whole thread again especially that is five years old now.

Next time don't speak on my behalf. @Tempus

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:07
Digging five years old thread now? I am not gonna read the whole thread again especially that is five years old now.

Next time don't speak on my behalf. @Tempus

So now truth has an expiry date also, or the punishment meted out to those who demolished the mosque also had an expiry date.

I am not talking on your behalf, but if you make a post some time ago, I have every right to quote it and say you are answerable for the justification of the post. There is nothing wrong in what I did.

5-year old excuse is a cop-out and nothing else. Please defend your point now.

Sandeep
26th September 2015, 17:15
So now truth has an expiry date also, or the punishment meted out to those who demolished the mosque also had an expiry date.

I am not talking on your behalf, but if you make a post some time ago, I have every right to quote it and say you are answerable for the justification of the post. There is nothing wrong in what I did.

5-year old excuse is a cop-out and nothing else. Please defend your point now.

His name is suggestive enough..

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:27
His name is suggestive enough..

You would like to believe people are educated not to fall for such idiotic claims. Modi and AB Vajpayee have become PMs of the country. One heck of a political downfall.

Fallen King
26th September 2015, 17:29
So now truth has an expiry date also, or the punishment meted out to those who demolished the mosque also had an expiry date.

I am not talking on your behalf, but if you make a post some time ago, I have every right to quote it and say you are answerable for the justification of the post. There is nothing wrong in what I did.

5-year old excuse is a cop-out and nothing else. Please defend your point now.

It is excuse for you. Five years is a lot of time. I was different person back then, and i am different person today. If you want justification from person-five-years-old, then you are gonna have to go back to past or time-travel past. Now you see my point? Clueless member as usual. :jf

Fallen King
26th September 2015, 17:30
His name is suggestive enough..

Better than your. Sandy :jf

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:31
It is excuse for you. Five years is a lot of time. I was different person back then, and i am different person today. If you want justification from person-five-years-old, then you are gonna have to go back to past or time-travel past. Now you see my point? Clueless member as usual. :jf

If it is not too personal, and if you don't mind, can you let us know what are the changes in your thought process regarding the above post in the last 5 years ?

Lurker_Ind
26th September 2015, 17:32
Good for the Sikh man who was acting like a Hindu and finally converts to Islam.

Fallen King
26th September 2015, 17:32
If it is not too personal, and if you don't mind, can you let us know what are the changes in your thought process regarding the above post in the last 5 years ?

You need help. Another member getting obsessed about me. #not shocking :facepalm:

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:35
You need help. Another member getting obsessed about me. #not shocking :facepalm:

Yes, I like to observe people making tall claims about their religion and making excuses when the claims fall flat on their face. I am really obsessed observing the thought process change.

TheNightWatchman
26th September 2015, 17:35
True.. very funny story.

What deep dark corners of Pakpassion are you visiting? The post is 5 years old

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:38
What deep dark corners of Pakpassion are you visiting? The post is 5 years old

I like to search for topics of my interest. I have seen threads being bumped 10 years later here on PP.

Fallen King
26th September 2015, 17:42
Yes, I like to observe people making tall claims about their religion and making excuses when the claims fall flat on their face. I am really obsessed observing the thought process change.

Or witnessing yourself making an *** of yourself as usual? :jf

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:43
Or witnessing yourself making an *** of yourself as usual? :jf

It is quite clear who has egg on his face.

Fallen King
26th September 2015, 17:46
It is quite clear who has egg on his face.

No offense. This thread is being read by all over the world. If you don't realize that you are making an *** of yourself, then we got ourselves Indian bimbo. :jf

tempus123
26th September 2015, 17:49
no offense. This thread is being read by all over the world. If you don't realize that you are making an *** of yourself, then we got ourselves indian bimbo. :jf

ok.