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its.raja
8th May 2010, 21:50
Majid Bhatti, the Geo Super correspondent has just told Geo Super that Afridi during press conference said "This was not my selected team, when i was selected captain, team was already selected without my consultation".

However, he takes the responsibility for not captaining the side well.

Sledger
8th May 2010, 21:50
Very subtle buck pass there, Shahid.

PB
8th May 2010, 21:54
Very subtle buck pass there, Shahid.
+1

eViLrAcEr
8th May 2010, 21:55
Wow, I really hate Afridi for not owning up now

SirRyanOfSalford
8th May 2010, 21:56
Yea, not even close to subtle. you need few brain cells for that. Hopefully Dum Dum's short bus crashes into something lol

Mr S Khan
8th May 2010, 21:56
It is a valid point...he makes it..How you can select a team w/o Coach and Captain??? I am fully behind Shahid...

IM NOT YOU
8th May 2010, 21:56
the man has a point.


we can be mad at him for poor batting but he is spot on right and ijaz butt should be given the finger and exposed more and more until he is sacked.

its.raja
8th May 2010, 21:57
Well I think he was upset. He wanted Shahzaib Hassan and I think M. Irfan too :) but Butt Saab didn't listen. So yes there is something

AZ
8th May 2010, 21:59
then why the F did you take the captaincy, Shahid?! you made the deal with the Devil, so don't BS us now...be a true Pathan and admit that you failed!

SirRyanOfSalford
8th May 2010, 21:59
Its funny. You can let him select etc but how is that gonna make him any smarter? He is still going to be riding the short bus just as last 15 years.

cricket_fever
8th May 2010, 22:00
Afriidi is right. he aint responsible for this abysmal squad

and he did take responsibilty for his own nonsense

Sledger
8th May 2010, 22:02
- Afridi wanted Shahzaib in the squad. He said Butt and Latif would only feature as 2nd choice.
Butt has top scored.

- He wanted Hafeez as an allrounder. Hafeez has failed with bat and ball.

- He wanted Sami in the team, he got him and he's failed yet again. Umar Gul was injured, no-one's fault there.

- He didn't want Rehman. Today, Rehman was statistically the best bowler.

malikvslee
8th May 2010, 22:03
Majid Bhatti, the Geo Super correspondent has just told Geo Super that Afridi during press conference said "This was not my selected team, when i was selected captain, team was already selected without my consultation".

However, he takes the responsibility for not captaining the side well.

than why he accept captaincy since he knows that team selected without his consulation.

taaveez
8th May 2010, 22:03
Yes, if he had had his way, he would have left S Butt and Rehman behind in Pak and picked up a couple of Hafeezes.

AZ
8th May 2010, 22:05
- Afridi wanted Shahzaib in the squad. He said Butt and Latif would only feature as 2nd choice.
Butt has top scored.

- He wanted Hafeez as an allrounder. Hafeez has failed with bat and ball.

- He wanted Sami in the team, he got him and he's failed yet again. Umar Gul was injured, no-one's fault there.

- He didn't want Rehman. Today, Rehman was statistically the best bowler.

- He mentioned Misbah was a senior player and a vital member of the team...horrendous.

- He stated he was working with Fawad, especially on his bowling...has not bowled a single delivery or given a proper chance in this tourney.

insaftak
8th May 2010, 22:05
I will comment on this on Monday

Mohsin
8th May 2010, 22:05
Of course, its NEVER lala's fault

Abdullah22
8th May 2010, 22:09
Majid Bhatti, the Geo Super correspondent has just told Geo Super that Afridi during press conference said "This was not my selected team, when i was selected captain, team was already selected without my consultation".

However, he takes the responsibility for not captaining the side well.

I'm not Afridi's Lawyer but this should be the bold part. I respect him for that.
Though the excuse is unacceptable.

chui_kadoo
8th May 2010, 22:09
he should look at his own performance first before blaming others

its.raja
8th May 2010, 22:11
To be honest, captaincy was okay in today's match. Fielding and bowling was brilliant. It was our bating which sucks all the times.

Sledger
8th May 2010, 22:13
^ He didn't bowl out Rehman or Aamer.

That said, it was an improvement.

its.raja
8th May 2010, 22:14
Come on yaar. They still managed to contain them on a low total.

akafen
8th May 2010, 22:23
hmm so he blames Yousuf for passing the buck, he reciprocates by throwing the whole team under the bus.

Sledger
8th May 2010, 22:24
Come on yaar. They still managed to contain them on a low total.
Clearly not low enough.

Black Zero
8th May 2010, 22:28
I guess he wants to convey the reporter that blame needs to be shared by Butt, Mohsin and co along with he himself. Thats all.

pak4life
8th May 2010, 22:28
His team or not the job of the captain is to get the best of the resources available not sulk like a five year old.

cricketpassion
8th May 2010, 22:30
I agree with Afridi ,Its Ijaz Butt's fault .

People think why afridi accepted captaincy if this team wasnt his choice , well did we have any other choice ? and when Afridi accepted the captaicy why everyone was happy that we have a right captain , now team loses blame afridi ? Today we didnt lose because of his captaincy we lost because of our batting . Experience opener plays 20 overs in the match and crucial last ball give to talender to hit for runs .so blame afridi for that .

Blitz
8th May 2010, 22:33
The tournament isn't even over yet and here they are pointing fingers at each other already.

Atif
8th May 2010, 22:36
Majid Bhatti, the Geo Super correspondent has just told Geo Super that Afridi during press conference said "This was not my selected team, when i was selected captain, team was already selected without my consultation".

However, he takes the responsibility for not captaining the side well.

I totally agree with Afridi, this was the case, ijaz or Mohsin did say next time Captain will have a say in team selection

so123
8th May 2010, 22:40
tbh this world cup has taught us the importance of malik and gul to the pak team in T20 cricket.

so123
8th May 2010, 22:42
Atleast the selectors didn't pick Farhat, Faisal and Rao now then we would have lost to bangla.

Sufian84
8th May 2010, 22:45
afridi failed big time with his captaincy.

Kray_jackson7
8th May 2010, 22:46
How true! he admitted he didnt do a good job as captain but he also didnt get his team. How TRUE!!

rsk
8th May 2010, 22:55
Afridi was not in his elements this world cup. THAT has affected his performances and his captaincy. Too early to w/off lala. BTW who else is there to lead this team?

Ali888
8th May 2010, 22:56
If Afridi had had his way he would have dropped our best player Salman Butt

His judgement is under severe question and he is clearly not suited to Captaincy

All these 'corrupt' people who lust after 'power' Yousuf, Malik and Afridi have all failed and showed how Younus Khan must have been brilliant tactician and player and man-manager to have got our rabble of unprofessional rubbish fielders to World glory

kkmix
8th May 2010, 22:58
he's talking about Mohammad Irfan, he would've been a nice surprise in this WC.

Sledger
8th May 2010, 22:59
I seriously doubt Irfan would have done anything here. He's an up and down bowler with bounce.

waqar_ahmad
8th May 2010, 23:05
Afridi should stop crying. And so should his supporters. This guy has been one of the trouble makers in the team, he got the captaincy coz of his politics, and now that his captaincy has shown severe problems, he is blaming the selectors.

Honestly, his captaincy has been so bad, that a team of shane warnes, pontings, McGraths and Laras would have bene beaten under him

The funny thing is, that no matter what he says, his supporters will always find a way to back him

basitirfan
8th May 2010, 23:06
I seriously doubt Irfan would have done anything here. He's an up and down bowler with bounce.

well i think it was the bounce that has done India and pakistan as well...if we had the surprise element of bounce in this team, we would not be at this stage...

Look at the unplayable ball to Umar Akmal, it was an amazing short length ball although that guy Mills does chuck the ball..

its amazing how no one has reported the **** yet...

Sledger
8th May 2010, 23:08
well i think it was the bounce that has done India and pakistan as well...if we had the surprise element of bounce in this team, we would not be at this stage...

Unfortunately, not all batsmen play like Pakistan and India. Benn has been poor and Morkel, who is over 6'7", was pounded by England today.

don1990
8th May 2010, 23:10
Majid Bhatti, the Geo Super correspondent has just told Geo Super that Afridi during press conference said "This was not my selected team, when i was selected captain, team was already selected without my consultation".

However, he takes the responsibility for not captaining the side well.


this is very obivous excuse...... but he is no show any leadership quality...

Awesome_Username
8th May 2010, 23:11
well i think it was the bounce that has done India and pakistan as well...if we had the surprise element of bounce in this team, we would not be at this stage...

Look at the unplayable ball to Umar Akmal, it was an amazing short length ball although that guy Mills does chuck the ball..

its amazing how no one has reported the **** yet...

Junior had no business playing that ball. It wasn't even coming into the body that much. That was just poor technique.

deviously~fading~away
8th May 2010, 23:15
If Afridi had had his way he would have dropped our best player Salman Butt

His judgement is under severe question and he is clearly not suited to Captaincy

All these 'corrupt' people who lust after 'power' Yousuf, Malik and Afridi have all failed and showed how Younus Khan must have been brilliant tactician and player and man-manager to have got our rabble of unprofessional rubbish fielders to World glory
Please dont make statements just to suit your point. Afridi is one of the biggest fan of butt. He has mentioned how he wants butt in the playing 11 numerous times.

Players like Imran Nazir who afridi wanted but was denied.

Rizwan25
8th May 2010, 23:18
Bottom line is " West Indies jagaaaa hai manhooos haay". :inzi

Sledger
8th May 2010, 23:23
Please dont make statements just to suit your point. Afridi is one of the biggest fan of butt. He has mentioned how he wants butt in the playing 11 numerous times.

Players like Imran Nazir who afridi wanted but was denied.
a) In a pre-tourney interview, Afridi said Hafeez and Akmal were going to be his openers and that he wanted Shahzaib in the squad.

b) He [Afridi] said it wasn't possible to select Nazir as he hasn't performed consistantly enough in domestics.

Golden arm
8th May 2010, 23:51
- Afridi wanted Shahzaib in the squad. He said Butt and Latif would only feature as 2nd choice.
Butt has top scored.

- He wanted Hafeez as an allrounder. Hafeez has failed with bat and ball.

- He wanted Sami in the team, he got him and he's failed yet again. Umar Gul was injured, no-one's fault there.

- He didn't want Rehman. Today, Rehman was statistically the best bowler.

very right! the only person he didnt get was Irfan!

I think today he played the best combination! before today's match team strategy was very defensive. Had they played abdur rehman before, things could have been different.
they played aggressively but thats too late.

the whole blame has to be shared by afridi,waqar,ijaz and manager!!

Not BUtt and selection panel!

Down2Earth
9th May 2010, 00:07
he should have reserved this excuse till after the south africa game.

waqar_ahmad
9th May 2010, 00:18
Afridi is such a lame captain, that he didnt even give Hammad Azam a chance, even though Hafeez was failing consistantly. YK risked Aamer in the T20 WC, and had him bowl important overs. Imran Khan gambled on inzi.

To me, the difference is very clear. Afridi isnt too many steps ahead of malik or moyo, from what we have seen in this Wc

the Great Khan
9th May 2010, 00:27
I give up..we now officially have the most moronic fans on the planet!! the intellectual level of most of our fans was on clear display today with their gentlemanly gestures towards a certain overweight kiwi!..

now afridi has had a tough time and the pea brained "lets sack em" brigade are out in force!! who's next on this merry go round? Butt? akmal senior? hell why not hafeez? or better yet lets get a young captain like hammad azam!! wake up and smell the coffee pea brains, there is no one else left since the PCB has the same mentality you people do! they've banned just about everyone else and we are left with this crew! so my advice to all teh simpletons is stop your pathetic aunty style whingeing and just support this lot because this is what we have left!!..

Ryankhan
9th May 2010, 02:43
Well somewhat i agree with him. if he had his choice of players then S.hassan would have been great hitter up front and in bowling m.Irfan would have been great so too bad then

asif9138
9th May 2010, 03:13
Bottom line is " West Indies jagaaaa hai manhooos haay". :inzi

bro completly agree with you!! +111

i hate carribean grounds!!!

Desi
9th May 2010, 03:46
Afridi's lack of runs has added to the worries and his 11 against New Zealand took his series tally to 53 in four matches. "My performance is always very key as captain but this time I haven't performed so maybe that's why we haven't had a good result," Afridi said. Pakistan's final Super Eight game is against South Africa in St Lucia on Monday.

He did mention this, but I agree with the majority here in that his criticism of the selection was not the fault for the mishaps that happened.

eViLrAcEr
9th May 2010, 04:16
I give up..we now officially have the most moronic fans on the planet!! the intellectual level of most of our fans was on clear display today with their gentlemanly gestures towards a certain overweight kiwi!..

now afridi has had a tough time and the pea brained "lets sack em" brigade are out in force!! who's next on this merry go round? Butt? akmal senior? hell why not hafeez? or better yet lets get a young captain like hammad azam!! wake up and smell the coffee pea brains, there is no one else left since the PCB has the same mentality you people do! they've banned just about everyone else and we are left with this crew! so my advice to all teh simpletons is stop your pathetic aunty style whingeing and just support this lot because this is what we have left!!..
If the captain makes you tear your hair out just for his bowling decisions...I don't think I can support this lot for it, or atleast not this captain.

That said, I've always supported Aamer and Ajmal no matter what they do because we all know for a fact that they are gems.

azk
9th May 2010, 04:19
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Kq1z1xGHjV4/Sw65LPj0stI/AAAAAAAAAGA/CPcghWlXBFU/s1600/blame-him.jpg

Desi
9th May 2010, 04:25
Afridi is such a lame captain, that he didnt even give Hammad Azam a chance, even though Hafeez was failing consistantly. YK risked Aamer in the T20 WC, and had him bowl important overs. Imran Khan gambled on inzi.

To me, the difference is very clear. Afridi isnt too many steps ahead of malik or moyo, from what we have seen in this Wc
LOL at the hypocrisy
You mentioned captains who gambled, Afridi obviously gambled with Hafeez, it just didn't work out.

ShehryarK
9th May 2010, 04:52
If Afridi had had his way he would have dropped our best player Salman Butt

His judgement is under severe question and he is clearly not suited to Captaincy

All these 'corrupt' people who lust after 'power' Yousuf, Malik and Afridi have all failed and showed how Younus Khan must have been brilliant tactician and player and man-manager to have got our rabble of unprofessional rubbish fielders to World glory
Well said.


Afridi as captain = a pathetic, useless pansy

However, this is baptism of fire, a pretty tough induction to being a captain. His on-field performance as captain is still average, but wasn't as shocking in this game as in the previous one. His bowling and batting are still pathetic though, maybe he'll take some time to get used to leading as well as performing. Or maybe he can't do both, like Botham, SRT etc.

saeedhk
9th May 2010, 04:55
he shud put blame on :Sami for giving a wade with 4 runs :ajmal for being hit by nathan for 6 the last ball!!!

MalikMohsin
9th May 2010, 05:02
If Afridi had had his way he would have dropped our best player Salman Butt

His judgement is under severe question and he is clearly not suited to Captaincy

All these 'corrupt' people who lust after 'power' Yousuf, Malik and Afridi have all failed and showed how Younus Khan must have been brilliant tactician and player and man-manager to have got our rabble of unprofessional rubbish fielders to World glory

It's safe to say Malik is now reasonable captain too. Besides, he had no intention of becoming captain in the first place. Remember, WC 2007 and senior cricketers like Yousuf and Afridi whining about wanting captaincy and Younus disappointed PCB for not able to accept the title? In order to shut all the whole team, to appoint newly inexperienced like Malik. It worked out okay for Pakistan as comparable to what is happening nowadays. He knows how to captain.

With Afridi, as i have never seen clueless captaincy like today now

Pakistan lost the only one match in WC T20 2007 and that's final, and it was best fielding i have ever seen.

Pakistan won the WC T20 2009, but it was fluke indeed. I gotta agree with Younus captaincy as he clearly was brilliant tactician and manager. But he had no faith in youngsters. He is the reason ICL cricketers are back in first place. :|

Both Malik and Younus have impressed me the most, but only one captain who was able to perform as captain and also in under pressure if needed.
Let's Younus also perform as captain for Summer Test if appointed as captain. ;-)

hashmist
9th May 2010, 06:45
I am sure he'll be fined by PCB for making this statement.

Poison
9th May 2010, 06:49
Well said.


Afridi as captain = a pathetic, useless pansy

However, this is baptism of fire, a pretty tough induction to being a captain. His on-field performance as captain is still average, but wasn't as shocking in this game as in the previous one. His bowling and batting are still pathetic though, maybe he'll take some time to get used to leading as well as performing. Or maybe he can't do both, like Botham, SRT etc.

Your posts are getting worse and worse through the days of this tournament. His captaincy was excellent yesterday, I don't think anyone can argue against this. Calling him a 'pathetic, useless pansy' is ridiculous, and is in no way constructive at all.

Poison
9th May 2010, 06:50
If Afridi had had his way he would have dropped our best player Salman Butt

His judgement is under severe question and he is clearly not suited to Captaincy


Nearly 3/4 of the forum were calling for Butt's head before the tournament, so your argument is void. And if Afridi really didn't rate Butt he wouldn't have played him at all. So in the end your argument is completely invalid.

Momo
9th May 2010, 07:20
First some preliminary remarks: :)

I think Sahib's captaincy against New Zealand was top-notch; he hardly put a foot wrong in the field yesterday. That shows he is a fast learner. :afridi

Restricting NZ to 133 was a great half-the-match and Afridi's captaincy, and bowling, had a lot to do with it.

He didn't bat well, admittedly, but it was a great (bump) catch, and these things do happen. All in all a very good performance by Afridi, and a very good match. I certainly enjoyed it very much, although we lost on the last ball.

As for the topic of this thread, let me echo these golden sentiments by my illustrious co-PPer:
I will comment on this on Monday
:) InshaAllah.

And it will help greatly if we can have (by then) something better than 'this poster says that that correspondent told that tv channel that Afridi said this ...'

Chinese whispers have been known to produce some undesirable although occasionally funny results. :)

workkey
9th May 2010, 07:22
It is a valid point...he makes it..How you can select a team w/o Coach and Captain??? I am fully behind Shahid...

why he accepted captaincy in the first place when he was not given the players he wanted..these are just lame excuses now by our stupid boom boom...what has been his own performance with bat and ball

*sallu*
9th May 2010, 07:44
Shouldn't be making such statements in the public.

Rather than going around the media complaining like a small girl he should have actually tried to take a stand against this.

the Great Khan
9th May 2010, 07:44
^^^^ pls just go home! we have had so many captains I've lost count and everytime we lose a match the sack brigade turn up on this forum..I'm sick of it..can't you people just have some f:()$&&&; patience??

*sallu*
9th May 2010, 07:47
^^^^ pls just go home! we have had so many captains I've lost count and everytime we lose a match the sack brigade turn up on this forum..I'm sick of it..can't you people just have some f:()$&&&; patience??

Have I said he should be sacked as captain?

Its just a wrong move hes made that I pointed out, doesn't mean he should be sacked for it

AZ
9th May 2010, 07:50
nobody is asking for his head, that would be foolish, as there really is nobody else left in the team anymore...but this "it wasn't my fault" kind of line does not work.

*sallu*
9th May 2010, 07:52
nobody is asking for his head, that would be foolish, as there really is nobody else left in the team anymore...but this "it wasn't my fault" kind of line does not work.

This

I didn't see Afridi saying this after the Bangladesh match

mastermind_quad
9th May 2010, 07:57
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its.raja
9th May 2010, 09:14
Afridi blames selectors for team's poor performance

STAFF WRITER 12:13 HRS IST

Joseph Hoover

Barbados, May 9 (PTI) With Pakistan's Twenty20 World Cup title defence in complete disarray, captain Shahid Afridi has criticised the selectors for not consulting him before naming the squad.

"We are coming out from a very difficult time after the New Zealand and Australia tours. The selection committee picks the team for us and first they announce the team before naming the captain and coach. To do well in Twenty20 cricket, we need to have some good Twenty20 players in the side," Afridi said after the heart-breaking one run-loss to New Zealand yesterday.

Pakistan are on the brink of elimination after losing their first two Super Eight matches and the all-rounder conceded his side was passing through a difficult phase after the Pakistan Cricket Board had sacked, banned and fined players for their below-par performance and indiscipline in Australia earlier this year.

its.raja
9th May 2010, 09:20
Afridi chases selection changes

Cricinfo staff

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Shahid Afridi has called for a more cohesive selection policy in future after Pakistan's World Twenty20 title defence moved closer to an early end. Pakistan lost their second Super Eight match on Saturday when New Zealand stole a one-run victory in Barbados, leaving them needing a miracle to qualify for the semi-finals out of Group E.

Afridi is leading a squad that is missing some senior players after a clear-out that followed their tumultuous tour of Australia. The former captains Younis Khan, who was in charge when Pakistan won this event last year, Mohammad Yousuf and Shoaib Malik were banned along with Rana Naved-ul-Hasan.

"We are coming out from a very difficult time after the New Zealand and Australia tours," Afridi said. "The selection committee picks the team for us and first they announce the team before naming the captain and coach. Maybe in the future we can all sit together and pick a good bunch of guys."

The missing strike-power has been a concern and Pakistan had scores of 157 and 147 in their losses to Australia and England. Batting was again a problem as they fell a run short of New Zealand's 133, despite Salman Butt's unbeaten 67 off 54 balls.

Afridi's lack of runs has added to the worries and his 11 against New Zealand took his series tally to 53 in four matches. "My performance is always very key as captain but this time I haven't performed so maybe that's why we haven't had a good result," Afridi said. Pakistan's final Super Eight game is against South Africa in St Lucia on Monday.

http://www.cricinfo.com/world-twenty20-2010/content/story/459025.html

wiseguy
9th May 2010, 09:31
i agree with afridi its not his fault the selectors made bad descisions

Ghoshtbuster
9th May 2010, 10:20
"My performance is always very key as captain but this time I haven't performed so maybe that's why we haven't had a good result," Afridi said.
y duz he blame da otherz

Prince_Pathan
9th May 2010, 10:28
lets be honest...this team could very well have accomadated imran nazir and shahzaib hasan as pinch hitters and not just openers or one of them open with butt...mohd irfan and to an extent even akhtar would have proved handfuls...

afridi has a fair point

brombleybybow
9th May 2010, 10:37
Why is everyone blaming Afridi? He did well. The idiot players didn't, and he was right to point that out.

He knew what he had with him (team) was rubbish and ********. Plus, you forget, that idiot Waqar younish, who bowled well once upon a time but played abissmally thoughout his career, has alot of say in this process. These problems never occur in other teams, only ours, because the management is wrong. YK moved to take more power for this very same reason, he needed players he could play with, not those that the PCB and coach wanted to play.

We need rules and standards to get somewhere. Too many coaches, too many possible captains, all fighting for the same thing and missing the main point of playing cricket for nation. What the hell is this?

Had we won from England, which could have happened if not for S Ajmal, then NZ and the pressure we are in now wouldn't have mattered. We forget that its a game, and just because you beat the other team 4-0 doesn't mean you will be on top forever.

Cpt. Rishwat
9th May 2010, 11:18
The squad picked was atrocious, whether that was Afridi's fault or the selectors I don't know. England team has performed much better since they started picking power hitters, we have relied too much on small all rounders who didn't have the strength to smash the big shots in T20 cricket.

The decision to bring back proven flop Sami was also dumb...but then this is Pakistan selection committee so it was expected.

Amjid Javed
9th May 2010, 13:00
So if sqaud picked was such a joke, id like to see a better 15 been picked by Afridi. I really do!

Cpt. Rishwat
9th May 2010, 13:04
It's not Afridi's job to pick the squad though is it? It's the selectors and they chose to ban players like Malik who are proven pressure performers and now when we get whupped they should stand by their decision and applaud the performances.

zaid65
9th May 2010, 13:34
I give up..we now officially have the most moronic fans on the planet!! the intellectual level of most of our fans was on clear display today with their gentlemanly gestures towards a certain overweight kiwi!..

now afridi has had a tough time and the pea brained "lets sack em" brigade are out in force!! who's next on this merry go round? Butt? akmal senior? hell why not hafeez? or better yet lets get a young captain like hammad azam!! wake up and smell the coffee pea brains, there is no one else left since the PCB has the same mentality you people do! they've banned just about everyone else and we are left with this crew! so my advice to all teh simpletons is stop your pathetic aunty style whingeing and just support this lot because this is what we have left!!..

Those intellectual fans were not only present in the cricket ground, but you can see them on this forum, who are defending this moron captain, who has been proven to be a choker, cheater.

Some of these so called intellectual fans after loosing the argument here on the forum, become frustrated, throw tantrums and start abusing others by name calling, Pretty sad, isn't it?

Saj
9th May 2010, 13:38
Couple of things here that I know.

There are two arguments that I have heard from ex players. One said that Afridi had no input into the squad that was selected for the World Cup, another ex player told me that Afridi did have some input into the selection of the squad, even though he had not officially been announced as the captain.

There are a couple of players in this squad that Afridi WOULD DEFINITELY have not selected if it was his call.

zaid65
9th May 2010, 13:43
Couple of things here that I know.

There are two arguments that I have heard from ex players. One said that Afridi had no input into the squad that was selected for the World Cup, another ex player told me that Afridi did have some input into the selection of the squad, even though he had not officially been announced as the captain.

There are a couple of players in this squad that Afridi WOULD DEFINITELY have not selected if it was his call.


Saj,

As a follower of Pakistan cricket for long time, when was the last time you have heard that captain has given his fully desired team?

Cpt. Rishwat
9th May 2010, 14:36
I give up..we now officially have the most moronic fans on the planet!! the intellectual level of most of our fans was on clear display today with their gentlemanly gestures towards a certain overweight kiwi!..

now afridi has had a tough time and the pea brained "lets sack em" brigade are out in force!! who's next on this merry go round? Butt? akmal senior? hell why not hafeez? or better yet lets get a young captain like hammad azam!! wake up and smell the coffee pea brains, there is no one else left since the PCB has the same mentality you people do! they've banned just about everyone else and we are left with this crew! so my advice to all teh simpletons is stop your pathetic aunty style whingeing and just support this lot because this is what we have left!!..

Great post. I think some members of the PCB are posting on this forum, that would explain some of the trigger happy rantings on these boards.

Saj
9th May 2010, 14:48
Saj,

As a follower of Pakistan cricket for long time, when was the last time you have heard that captain has given his fully desired team?
I know what you are saying Zaid, but common sense would tell us that you name the skipper first, then name the squad. That way the captain can't deflect any of the responsibility back onto the selectors.

zaid65
9th May 2010, 15:42
I know what you are saying Zaid, but common sense would tell us that you name the skipper first, then name the squad. That way the captain can't deflect any of the responsibility back onto the selectors.


Saj, in this regard, Afridi need to blame himself first, because his name for the captaincy was already announced long time ago, but after his ball eating, cheating and embarrassing incident, PCB had to reconsider the captaincy issue.

Had he was not involved in the cheating incident, PCB could have discussed the squad just like they have done to some extent with other captains.

He was lucky that his long last wish for captaincy was granted ( which he was dying for many years) and now he should have shut his mouth and act like a real man and take the responsibility and give us a favor by leaving the team and run his shalwar qameez and chiken tikaa business.

Zaz
9th May 2010, 15:43
then why the F did you take the captaincy, Shahid?! you made the deal with the Devil, so don't BS us now...be a true Pathan and admit that you failed!


Spot on

Poison
9th May 2010, 15:45
Yeah people need to R.E.A.D. the article and not the heading lol

MalikMohsin
9th May 2010, 18:01
Saj, in this regard, Afridi need to blame himself first, because his name for the captaincy was already announced long time ago, but after his ball eating, cheating and embarrassing incident, PCB had to reconsider the captaincy issue.

Had he was not involved in the cheating incident, PCB could have discussed the squad just like they have done to some extent with other captains.

He was lucky that his long last wish for captaincy was granted ( which he was dying for many years) and now he should have shut his mouth and act like a real man and take the responsibility and give us a favor by leaving the team and run his shalwar qameez and chiken tikaa business.


That's harsh honest no doubt.