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Amjid Javed
14th October 2005, 12:48
KARACHI: The four-day practice match between Pakistan XI and Karachi will be played here at the National Stadium from Sunday.

The opening match of the three-match series that was to be played between Pakistan XI and Peshawar Panthers in Peshawar, was cancelled due to earthquake that struck various parts of the country last Saturday.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is arranging these matches to provide a build-up to the national team and also to judge performance of some of the players who may have bright prospect to find a place in the Pakistan team for the forthcoming home series against England. The England squad are due to arrive in Islamabad on October 26 to play a series of three Test and five One-day Internationals besides three side matches.

In the Karachi match, Younis Khan will lead Pakistan XI while Hasan Raza will be the captain of the Karachi side. Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer will have a close look at some of the aspiring youngsters at the match.

Test umpire Saleem Badar and international Afzaal Ahmed will supervise the match.

Teams:

Pakistan XI: Younis Khan (captain), Taufeeq Umar, Imran Farhat, Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal (wicket-keeper), Abdul Razzaq, Arshad Khan, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Irshad and Mohammad Khalil (monsee will be happy :D ).

Karachi team: Hasan Raza (captain), Faisal Athar, Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal, Khalid Latif, Khurram Manzoor, Nomanullah, Amin-ur-Rehman (wicket-keeper), Danish Kaneria, Tanveer Ahmed and Malik Aftab.

source - daily jang

Easa
14th October 2005, 18:17
KARACHI: The four-day practice match between Pakistan XI and Karachi will be played here at the National Stadium from Sunday.

The opening match of the three-match series that was to be played between Pakistan XI and Peshawar Panthers in Peshawar, was cancelled due to earthquake that struck various parts of the country last Saturday.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is arranging these matches to provide a build-up to the national team and also to judge performance of some of the players who may have bright prospect to find a place in the Pakistan team for the forthcoming home series against England. The England squad are due to arrive in Islamabad on October 26 to play a series of three Test and five One-day Internationals besides three side matches.

In the Karachi match, Younis Khan will lead Pakistan XI while Hasan Raza will be the captain of the Karachi side. Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer will have a close look at some of the aspiring youngsters at the match.

Test umpire Saleem Badar and international Afzaal Ahmed will supervise the match.

Teams:

Pakistan XI: Younis Khan (captain), Taufeeq Umar, Imran Farhat, Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal (wicket-keeper), Abdul Razzaq, Arshad Khan, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Irshad and Mohammad Khalil (monsee will be happy :D ).

Karachi team: Hasan Raza (captain), Faisal Athar, Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal, Khalid Latif, Khurram Manzoor, Nomanullah, Amin-ur-Rehman (wicket-keeper), Danish Kaneria, Tanveer Ahmed and Malik Aftab.

source - daily jang

Yeah! Farhat given another chance lets hope he shines, him and butt are a solid opening combination? BTW,is Afridi back from Aus? if SO why is he not in the team>? Irshad? Arshad? Mohammad Khalil & Asif? Strange choices, aren't they/?

Raz
14th October 2005, 19:01
How come Mohammad Sami isnt playing for either team?

tahaqureshi
14th October 2005, 19:59
How come Sami and Butt aren't there? It is absolutely vital for Sami to show as much as possible before the Eng tour so the selectors know whether he is upto the challenge or not.

Aurangzeb
14th October 2005, 20:40
hmmm...strange sami isn't there...noddy bhai, any insight?

Amjid Javed
14th October 2005, 23:33
How come Mohammad Sami isnt playing for either team?

pakistan are looking at better bowlers in this game!

Aurangzeb
14th October 2005, 23:38
pakistan are looking at better bowlers in this game!

ahahaha, you don't miss an opportunity do you?

Long_Live_Pakistan
15th October 2005, 04:41
cool....
i just wonder how many chances Mr Faisal Iqbal needs before someone finally cuts his name off from such lists....

Somali Pirate
15th October 2005, 04:50
Another meaningless warm up game.They should try playing the batsmen and ALL BOWLERS in contention for the england series.

Saj
15th October 2005, 15:38
no warm up game is meaningless at the moment. The more preparation before the England series that the Pak players can get, the better it will be. Some of them havent played for a lengthy period and they need to go into the England series fully prepared.

razzler
15th October 2005, 16:46
KARACHI: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has empowered the Karachi City Cricket Association (KCCA) to organise the four-day first-class practice match between a Pakistan XI and Karachi from Sunday (tomorrow), here at the National Stadium to raise funds for the earthquake victims.

The KCCA has also donated one lakh rupees towards the President’s Earthquake Relief Fund. It has formed an Earthquake Relief Fund Committee headed by KCCA President Munir Hussain.

Other members of the committee are Nasim-ul Ghani, Regional Development Manager PCB, S H Hashmi, Khalil Ahmed Nainitalwala, Yakoob Karim, Haji Iftikhar Ahmed, Irfan Sheikh, Zulfiqar Sheikh, Shafaat Hussain and Amin Merchant. KCCA Secretary Prof Sirajul Islam Bukhari is the secretary of the committee to collect further funds for the relief effort.

The KCCA has directed its seven zones, the affiliated Clubs and organising committees of various ongoing Ramazan festival tournaments also to contribute so that a sizeable earthquake relief fund could be collected .

An Iftar dinner will also be arranged to collect funds for the purpose, which will be attended by past and present Test cricketers who will be requested to contribute their antiques for fund-raising. A brochure will also be published to further consolidate the fund-raising campaign.

A booth will be set up at the National Stadium here where goods and funds will be collected against receipts. The Regional Development Office PCB Karachi will also co-ordinate in the campaign.


http://jang.com.pk/thenews/


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I hope that people come and raise enough money in this game. But regardless of that well done PCB and KCCA. :19::14:

Sheikh_Ji
15th October 2005, 17:40
a limited overs match woujld ahve raised more money than a 4-day game..
but nonetheless good work by PCB and KCCA

Saj
16th October 2005, 14:56
no score updates ?

Wasim_17
16th October 2005, 17:43
score update?

Amjid Javed
16th October 2005, 18:12
no updates - http://www.pcboard.com.pk/

Rana Banana
16th October 2005, 18:23
why is there no score update

Fessal
16th October 2005, 18:42
no updates - http://www.pcboard.com.pk/

Salam Amjid bhai. How's Ramadan and everything going? Hope you are well.

I can't see any score updates on that pcb site :(

Amjid Javed
16th October 2005, 19:04
Salam Amjid bhai. How's Ramadan and everything going? Hope you are well.

I can't see any score updates on that pcb site :(

v salam and a very late ramzan mubarak. am good mashallah. how r u?

i think updates will be about 1400-1600 uk time i think.

Fessal
16th October 2005, 19:17
v salam and a very late ramzan mubarak. am good mashallah. how r u?

i think updates will be about 1400-1600 uk time i think.

Ramadan mubarak too you as well.. good to hear you are doing fine. Mashallah I am good as well.

And thanks to your help and faith (with cv etc) I got a job up in Leeds and moved upto Bradford. Things going better now but I haven't got net access yet and so not online much these days. Was going to email you to personally thankyou for your help. May Allah reward you with success and happiness for a good deed in helping a fellow brother out. Ameen!

Amjid Javed
16th October 2005, 19:19
Ramadan mubarak too you as well.. good to hear you are doing fine. Mashallah I am good as well.

And thanks to your help and faith (with cv etc) I got a job up in Leeds and moved upto Bradford. Things going better now but I haven't got net access yet and so not online much these days. Was going to email you to personally thankyou for your help. May Allah reward you with success and happiness for a good deed in helping a fellow brother out. Ameen!

am glad u got job and hope it goes well inshallah. just make sure u dont spend all ur time eating at fancy restaurants to open rosa otherwise you will become an inzi rather than being part of inzi fan club :P

Fessal
16th October 2005, 20:16
am glad u got job and hope it goes well inshallah. just make sure u dont spend all ur time eating at fancy restaurants to open rosa otherwise you will become an inzi rather than being part of inzi fan club :P

:))) :))) I am becoming one quite fast but I am scounging and invading my future inlaws..(was confirmed about month ago :) )....and am emptying all there kitchen so no need to spend in restaurant when i can get for free :D but will have to try and not become a full inzy though.

Daoud
16th October 2005, 20:18
:))) :))) I am becoming one quite fast but I am scounging and invading my future inlaws..(was confirmed about month ago :) )....and am emptying all there kitchen so no need to spend in restaurant when i can get for free :D but will have to try and not become a full inzy though.

Are congratulations/commiserations in order?

Hash
16th October 2005, 20:28
Karachi 248/5 at close

Faisal Iqbal sadly scored a 100

Khalid Latif scored 94

Razzaq 2 for 16
Asif 2 for 46

Naz
16th October 2005, 20:40
asim kamal needs to perform soon. Its a shame that fasial scored a centruy, very bad news.

JhonnyBravo
16th October 2005, 21:09
Karachi first inningsRunsBallsMins4s6sFaisal Atharc Kamran Akmal b Mohammad Asif2042513-Khalid Latif (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/11/11483/11483.html)c Younis Khan b Imran Farhat9424732814-Naumanullah (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/9/9195/9195.html)c Taufeeq Umar b Mohammad Asif012--Asim Kamal (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/12/12421/12421.html)c Taufeeq Umar b Abdul Razzaq51923--*Hasan Raza (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/4/4168/4168.html)lbw b Abdul Razzaq1736612-Faisal Iqbal (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/7/7142/7142.html)not out10115813915-+Amin-ur-Rehman (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/35/35644/35644.html)not out001--Mohammad Sami (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/10/10635/10635.html)still to bat Danish Kaneria (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/10/10275/10275.html)still to bat Malik Aftab (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/54/54397/54397.html)still to bat Tanveer Ahmedstill to bat Extras(2 b, 4 lb, 5 nb)11Total(5 wickets, 83 overs)248Fall of wickets:
1-33, 2-33, 3-43, 4-81, 5-248Pakistan XI bowlingOversMdnsRunsWktsWidesNo-BallsUmar Gul13 2530--Mohammad Asif12 2462--Abdul Razzaq9 4162--Arshad Khan25 8480--Shoaib Malik15 3410--Imran Farhat4 0181--Younis Khan5 1200--

Pakistan XI first inningsRunsBallsMins4s6sImran Farhat (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/10/10270/10270.html)still to bat Shoaib Malik (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/8/8219/8219.html)still to bat Taufeeq Umar (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/8/8221/8221.html)still to bat *Younis Khanstill to bat Mohammad Yousuf (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/6/6438/6438.html)still to bat +Kamran Akmal (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/9/9183/9183.html)still to bat Abdul Razzaq (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/4/4172/4172.html)still to bat Umar Gulstill to bat Mohammad Asif (http://pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Players/19/19325/19325.html)still to bat Shahid Yousufstill to bat Arshad Khanstill to bat

Shayan
16th October 2005, 21:23
can we have a link. thats not particularly helpful.

Awesome Anjum
16th October 2005, 21:28
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Archive/Scorecards/f/48/f48383.html

Waseem
16th October 2005, 21:37
Is Khalid Latif Shoaib Mohammad's relative by any chance????? scored 94 off 247 balls.

Faisal Iqbal scored a century :(
Asif bowled better than Gul :(

A disappointing day overall.

Amir
16th October 2005, 21:44
How is it disappointing? It is great to see other youngsters coming through. We know what Gul is capableof and he will not perform every match, but it is nice to see others stand and deliver. I still believe Iqbal has alot to offer to Pakistan particulary when we tour Sri Lanka.

PakPassionate
16th October 2005, 21:45
Great century by Faisal Iqbal

Somali Pirate
16th October 2005, 21:50
Is Khalid Latif Shoaib Mohammad's relative by any chance????? scored 94 off 247 balls.

Faisal Iqbal scored a century :(
Asif bowled better than Gul :(

A disappointing day overall.

i know mate.But hey a week ago umar gul destroyed pak batting and hasan raza saved them in turn.

Somali Pirate
16th October 2005, 21:50
Also can't expect everytime centuries and wickets from them right?

tahaqureshi
16th October 2005, 22:01
Razzaq bowled well, 9 overs, 16/2 well done popeye :14:

Waseem
16th October 2005, 22:05
I didn't say that Gul and Hasan should have performed today but i don't wanna see Faisal and Asif getting preference over Hasan and Gul.

I am more than happy seeing youngsters scoring heavily and taking lots of wickets but we have seen some of these youngsters before and we know pretty well that they are not international standard.

Jahangir Khan
16th October 2005, 22:09
Looks like Faisal enjoyed himself against the spinners. Its good to see him scoring a century but when it's facing Malik, Arshad, Farhat and YK its not as special as it would be if he was facing some genuine fast bowlers who would be testing his technique against the short stuff which is what would happen against England.

Somali Pirate
16th October 2005, 22:10
I didn't say that Gul and Hasan should have performed today but i don't wanna see Faisal and Asif getting preference over Hasan and Gul.

I am more than happy seeing youngsters scoring heavily and taking lots of wickets but we have seen some of these youngsters before and we know pretty well that they are not international standard.

:)) we are talking pakistan here mate.One has the best technique in pak as a batsman and the other is very very good seamer.But trust pak to throw them in the reserves:))

Amir
16th October 2005, 22:15
I didn't say that Gul and Hasan should have performed today but i don't wanna see Faisal and Asif getting preference over Hasan and Gul.

Who said they are getting preference? Did you just get off the phone with Bari and did he confirm their selection? I think if they earn it, they are entitled to good performances and stake their claim too.

Waseem
16th October 2005, 22:21
Kool down Amir, i just felt it that way and i have seen this happening in Pak cricket before, always expect the unexpected.

I don't really like Faisal Iqbal and Mohammad Asif, you may have different opinion about them:)

jalex382
16th October 2005, 23:16
Originally Posted by Raz
How come Mohammad Sami isnt playing for either team?



pakistan are looking at better bowlers in this game!

He is in the playing xi.:D , so that means Pakistan is looking at better bowler(sami)

Amjid Javed
16th October 2005, 23:22
khalid latif 94. i guess monsee will be very happy!

fair_play
17th October 2005, 04:27
Good on young Faisal.

With his back to the wall now, he can show what he is made of. This is the time to show his temperament, with a little bit of luck.

Toony™®
17th October 2005, 04:34
ppl who wish bad performances for pak players need their heads read.

Monsee
17th October 2005, 05:02
khalid latif 94. i guess monsee will be very happy!



Faisal Iqbal 100 No...you must be dancing naked in the streets, once the Roza is over off course:D :P

yk
17th October 2005, 15:22
The PCB scorecard link has been changed to the faislabad and sialkot match. Anyone got another link?

Any score updates for day 2?

tahaqureshi
17th October 2005, 15:44
good to see that there is some competition, looks like karachi will get somewhere around 300-350

Raz
17th October 2005, 16:40
http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/f/48/f48384.html

Scorecard still hasnt changed though.

AT1
17th October 2005, 20:39
razzaq got hasan, it must have been a special bowl

wasoo77
17th October 2005, 21:49
its up dated now

gull 3 wickts.
razzaq 3 wickts

dani 30 odd runs! 2 wickts as well

Hash
17th October 2005, 21:59
Imran Farhat got 89!

Well played

I would love to see Butt and Farhat open against Eng Ger Land.

Rana Banana
17th October 2005, 22:06
I would love to see Butt and Farhat open against Eng Ger Land.
so would i. i think these 2 are our best openers

Monsee
17th October 2005, 22:06
Pakistan XI is facing a really tough bowling attack::J

waquas_uk
17th October 2005, 22:21
shoaib malik is doing exactly what bob said spend time at the crease 20 off 63 balls

umarbeast
17th October 2005, 22:45
Wow Kaneria getiing 39 from 50 balls. Didn't know he could bat aswell. Imran farhat 89 from 94 balls very good. Danish is suprising us all.

Aurangzeb
17th October 2005, 23:02
danish the manish...ahahahahahahahaa...

Amjid Javed
17th October 2005, 23:36
Imran Farhat got 89!

Well played

I would love to see Butt and Farhat open against Eng Ger Land.

:14: good to see farhat get runs. also danish kaneria has become a superstar all rounder :))) runs and wkts! well done umar gul also.

good to see sami get a stack load of wickets aswell!

Aurangzeb
17th October 2005, 23:44
ahahahaha samster sucking as usual...

Amjid Javed
17th October 2005, 23:49
ahahahaha samster sucking as usual...

:9: he bowled very fast and can bowl all day!

he is future waqar younis in making and should be encouraged! :19:

Raz
17th October 2005, 23:50
:14: good to see farhat get runs. also danish kaneria has become a superstar all rounder :))) runs and wkts! well done umar gul also.

good to see sami get a stack load of wickets aswell!

You say well done Umar Gul yet you criticise Mohammad Sami. Just remind me how many wickets Gul took on the first day? How many top order batsmen did Gul get out?

Gasherbrum
17th October 2005, 23:52
khatishhhhhhh from raz!

on a slightly less violent note ... scorecard suggests a bit of a dead track? tailenders scoring in the 30s ?

Amjid Javed
17th October 2005, 23:57
You say well done Umar Gul yet you criticise Mohammad Sami. Just remind me how many wickets Gul took on the first day? How many top order batsmen did Gul get out?

gul has just returned from career ending injury. sami has just had a lil spot removed from his foot. if sami cant get likes of farhat/taufeeq out then god help us against england!

yk
18th October 2005, 00:45
ahahahaha samster sucking as usual...

yeah, look at who he was bowling to, all ex or current internationals.

plus u don't even know what the pitch conditions were like, so no need to slag him of.

Somali Pirate
18th October 2005, 00:46
sami sucks as usual.Not suprising.

What a spear head.Average of 47 and strike rate of 87 spanning over 21 tests.
What a dream!A nation which produced good quickies over the years is being led by a hair obsessed fellow.

Shabash.Sami.Still You bowled all day with 'good' effort and stamina.Wickets don't matter.

Mercenary
18th October 2005, 01:03
I've always been a Farhat fan but he's too impulsive and has had many chances at opening. I want to see what Malik's made of, he turned himself into a 45+ average ODI batsman under Woolmer. Can he do the same in test matches?

I dont see why not.

jalex382
18th October 2005, 01:12
I've always been a Farhat fan but he's too impulsive and has had many chances at opening. I want to see what Malik's made of, he turned himself into a 45+ average ODI batsman under Woolmer. Can he do the same in test matches?

I dont see why not.


Merc i totally agree with you on Malik in test. I am sure he will do good, i hope they will open with malik in the last practice match at lahore. and if they can try to have malik in the warm up matches against england, you think its posible or they cant have him against england in warm up matches?

Aurangzeb
18th October 2005, 01:13
yeah, look at who he was bowling to, all ex or current internationals.

plus u don't even know what the pitch conditions were like, so no need to slag him of.

he's playing against his own team-mates...na'mean?...he should know their weaknesses...anyways, just because i don't support shoaib's inclusion over sami doesn't mean i'm a sami fan...he's the best we've got so whatever...hopefully he can get a couple of wickets for karachi...

Jonty
18th October 2005, 03:52
shoaib malik shuold open the batting.. hopefully farhat (or any other opener) can give some consistent performances. Just need someone to hold on end of the crease

Jonty
18th October 2005, 03:53
i really want to see the Razzaq of the 99 world cup.. the gaping run up, the quick action, a totally different bowler.. Hopefully he can regain that spark

akpower
18th October 2005, 03:56
the pcb has gone one full circle by re-inducting bygones like taufeeq, farhat and khalil. somethings never change. i just hope all three of them are a disaster, like they have been for the most part of their careers.

pak4life
18th October 2005, 04:12
faisal iqbal what do they see in him his a nervous wreck wen eva he comes to bat. ofcourse he wil score runs everyone has there day. jus hope bob dosnt pay too much attention. on form umer gul and hasan rana are paks two best bowls

Raz
18th October 2005, 04:27
gul has just returned from career ending injury. sami has just had a lil spot removed from his foot. if sami cant get likes of farhat/taufeeq out then god help us against england!

Gul has JUST returned?? Oh i see and almost 6 months in your books is just returning?? He was bowling in the 20/20 tournament in April. Face it Amjid your wrong in this respect.

I dont want to undermine Gul. I think he is an incredible talent and has a bright future ahead of him.

gfx
18th October 2005, 05:57
:14: good to see farhat get runs. also danish kaneria has become a superstar all rounder :))) runs and wkts! well done umar gul also.

good to see sami get a stack load of wickets aswell!
I dont know why desis always have such an uneven mentality. Just because he struggles once or twice, it doesnt mean he's the worst bowler ever born. Its the same with Shaoib. I dont know hwy you guys feel the need for such a hard line on everything.
So maybe he struggled today but played well against Australia A. No one makes it to this level of cricket because they are horrible bowlers. KEep an open mind and take the results as they come.
I know he's not as bad as you think, but he's also not as good as his supporters say.

Officer Barbrady
18th October 2005, 05:59
khatishhhhhhh from raz!

on a slightly less violent note ... scorecard suggests a bit of a dead track? tailenders scoring in the 30s ?

Possibly and/or perhaps bowlers not penetrative enough?

And no wild thoughts gasher.

Lahoria
18th October 2005, 10:26
Malik shouldn't even be playing test cricket given his lack of footwork and technique so he especially shouldn't be opening. Farhat and Butt haven't exactly cemented their places but opening with Malik is no better than opening with Kamran Akmal or Razzaq.

Monsee
18th October 2005, 18:17
:14:good to see farhat get runs. also danish kaneria has become a superstar all rounder :))) runs and wkts! well done umar gul also.

good to see sami get a stack load of wickets aswell!





Go ahead and make fun now, while praising your favorite Flat Track Bully

But the highlight of the day was the belligerence of Imran Farhat who as usual batted with gay abundance. The left-hander, who helped himself to 17 boundaries, escaped being dismissed for 20 when Karachi skipper Hasan Raza dropped a simple catch at second slip off Test fast bowler Mohammad Sami.


:21: :21:

AT1
18th October 2005, 18:37
also i dont hear people applauding razzaq's wickets?

Monsee
18th October 2005, 18:44
also i dont hear people applauding razzaq's wickets?


You will hear enough of the "Oh he is a pie thrower, he is useless, he performs once in a clue moon..."

Don't worry I can almost feel those ACC's arriving any moment

(ACC: Arm Chair Critics:D )

Hash
18th October 2005, 18:49
Go ahead and make fun now, while praising your favorite Flat Track Bully

But the highlight of the day was the belligerence of Imran Farhat who as usual batted with gay abundance. The left-hander, who helped himself to 17 boundaries, escaped being dismissed for 20 when Karachi skipper Hasan Raza dropped a simple catch at second slip off Test fast bowler Mohammad Sami.


:21: :21:

he took advantage of his chance and scored big runs. A sign of a good batsman. Doesn't let a second chance slip.

Monsee
18th October 2005, 18:59
he took advantage of his chance and scored big runs. A sign of a good batsman. Doesn't let a second chance slip.



Do you honestly think he will have similar chances at the highest level...more often than not, he will be walking to the pavillion in a similar situation

BTW, my last post was to show Amjid that figures or score cards don't tell the whole story

He is fast to appreciate a chancy innings by Farhat without ever seeing the game YET Maliks 64 in WI were all crap

Double Standards or what

IMMY69
18th October 2005, 19:25
monsee please dont argue with aj...aj is the best judge of a player the world has ever seen..if he says sami sucks then sami sucks...

aj, u the man!

Monsee
18th October 2005, 19:30
monsee please dont argue with aj...aj is the best judge of a player the world has ever seen..if he says sami sucks then sami sucks...

aj, u the man!




I have sinned...I am a bad man:6: :6:

Ok I am ready to accept all my sins...is preacher AJ available to hear my confession
:P

Saqlain_doosra
18th October 2005, 19:48
Gul should walk into Pakistan side ahead of Akthar, Sami, Shabbir and other medium pacers

AT1
18th October 2005, 19:53
no seriously, like evertime razzaq does good everyone ignores the effort but whenever he does crap everyone points fingers at him!

Monsee
18th October 2005, 20:02
no seriously, like evertime razzaq does good everyone ignores the effort but whenever he does crap everyone points fingers at him!


You can replace Razzaq's name with "Sami, Butt, Malik, Youhana, Shabbir..." and result will be the same

Officer Barbrady
18th October 2005, 20:05
Go ahead and make fun now, while praising your favorite Flat Track Bully

But the highlight of the day was the belligerence of Imran Farhat who as usual batted with gay abundance. The left-hander, who helped himself to 17 boundaries, escaped being dismissed for 20 when Karachi skipper Hasan Raza dropped a simple catch at second slip off Test fast bowler Mohammad Sami.


:21: :21:

Most big scores in test cricket do involve a catch or half-chance early on in the inning. I don't see a catch being dropped at 20 a huge deal.

Monsee
18th October 2005, 20:11
Most big scores in test cricket do involve a catch or half-chance early on in the inning.


Not really true...there are almost as many chanceless innings, as there are those that start with a life being given to the batsman





I don't see a catch being dropped at 20 a huge deal.


It is a huge deal cause most here see no wickets against Sami's or any bowler's name, and automatically assume he must have bowled bad



.

yk
18th October 2005, 20:13
any score updates for day 3?

Officer Barbrady
18th October 2005, 20:16
Not really true...there are almost as many chanceless innings, as there are those that start with a life being given to the batsman

It is a huge deal cause most here see no wickets against Sami's or any bowler's name, and automatically assume he must have bowled bad


Point being it is quite common for a catch to go down early on in a batsman's inning. I wouldn't say it was an ordinary inning because of that.

Sami's performance is a different matter.

Monsee
18th October 2005, 20:54
Point being it is quite common for a catch to go down early on in a batsman's inning. I wouldn't say it was an ordinary inning because of that.


We have all seen Farhat play like that before...he is a mini clone of Shoaib Akhtar. He always plays recklessly and never seems willing to learn anything from his mistakes

I used to be a huge Farhat fan but I refuse to follow him anymore cause he is just like any of our younger players...taluunted yet no brain in the head





Sami's performance is a different matter.

It isn't really...Amjid and many here make a joke out of him on a regular basis and I just pointed out that the guy is as unlucky as Bob and Inzi think


.

Officer Barbrady
18th October 2005, 21:31
We have all seen Farhat play like that before...he is a mini clone of Shoaib Akhtar. He always plays recklessly and never seems willing to learn anything from his mistakes

I used to be a huge Farhat fan but I refuse to follow him anymore cause he is just like any of our younger players...taluunted yet no brain in the head



hmm I thought he was doing OK in test matches and the head wasn't a major issue any more. He isn't the most brilliant mind out there but certainly seemed to have cut out some of his low percentage shots. I thought he was unlucky to be dropped after two ordinary tests in Australia (where most young players stuggle). At least 3 of the 4 dismissals were not due to reckless stroke play. I would prefer him over Hameed.

Sheikh_Ji
18th October 2005, 22:56
Malik shouldn't even be playing test cricket given his lack of footwork and technique so he especially shouldn't be opening. Farhat and Butt haven't exactly cemented their places but opening with Malik is no better than opening with Kamran Akmal or Razzaq.

Would you say Sehwag's and Trescothick's footwork are any better?? Tresco always plays away from his boy just like Malik and Sehwag just doesnt move...and yet both are HIGHLY succesful openning batsman. Sehwag had a 50+ test match avergae.....

So why can't Malik succeed??

AT1
18th October 2005, 23:01
i think he can but maybe his hand eye coordination is not as good?

im making a guess in not sure..

Sheikh_Ji
18th October 2005, 23:02
btw...does anyone know what happened in the match today??

alghazzali
18th October 2005, 23:02
Would you say Sehwag's and Trescothick's footwork are any better?? Tresco always plays away from his boy just like Malik and Sehwag just doesnt move...and yet both are HIGHLY succesful openning batsman. Sehwag had a 50+ test match avergae.....

So why can't Malik succeed??

Excellent point Sheikh Ji. Sehwag, Trescothick and Gayle to name but a few. The reason these guys are successful is their aggressive approach, so their lack of footwork and aggression is something for the analysts to look at.

Raz
18th October 2005, 23:04
Go ahead and make fun now, while praising your favorite Flat Track Bully

But the highlight of the day was the belligerence of Imran Farhat who as usual batted with gay abundance. The left-hander, who helped himself to 17 boundaries, escaped being dismissed for 20 when Karachi skipper Hasan Raza dropped a simple catch at second slip off Test fast bowler Mohammad Sami.


:21: :21:

Nothing new then! Another catch dropped off his bowling! The strange thing is that its always a simple catch as well!!

AT1
18th October 2005, 23:15
what do they have against sami.. trying to kick him out of the team or something?

Monsee
18th October 2005, 23:18
what do they have against sami.. trying to kick him out of the team or something?



AJ is paying them good money to do that...so he can continue with his usual posts at PP:P

Saj
18th October 2005, 23:27
no day 3 scorecard ?

Amjid Javed
18th October 2005, 23:29
no day 3 scorecard ?

no visible updates yet...!

AT1
18th October 2005, 23:59
AJ is paying them good money to do that...so he can continue with his usual posts at PP:P

:)) :))
beware AJ, i have more money spare :16:

Noddy
19th October 2005, 00:13
sam had 3 dropped today !

AT1
19th October 2005, 00:15
ur kidding right?

Waseem
19th October 2005, 00:22
All we can see on PCB website is that Karachi struggled in 2nd inning, no score updates yet.

Naveed
19th October 2005, 00:22
Younis, Yousuf hit sparkling half centuries

KARACHI, Oct 18 (APP): Skipper Younis Khan and Muhammad Yousuf (Youhana) hit stylish half centuries but Pakistan XI declared their first innings one run behind Karachi Region on the penultimate hot day of their four-day practice match at National Stadium Tuesday.

Younis hit nine boundaries in 216 minutes stay at the crease and Yousuf made an unbeaten 69 off 104 deliveries in 168 minutes with 12 sizzling boundaries as Pakistan XI declared their first innings at 377 for 7 just after tea.

Karachi Region in their first innings were dismissed for 378 with a fine hundred from Faisal Iqbal.

When play ended on third day, Karachi Region were struggling at 73 for five wickets in their second innings.Captain Hasan Raza with 18 and wicket-keeper Amin-ur-Rehman with six were at the crease at close.

Abdul Razzaq bowled just one ball in Karachi’s second innings and had to go off the ground because of cramp.

The four-day tie declared first class match by Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) turned into mockery by Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer as its second innings was restricted to 52 overs each side.

Apart from this overs restrictions, Pakistan XI included

Lahore leg spinner Imran Tahir to bowl in Karachi’s second innings and Karachi also included a new opener Agha Sabir outside their 11 named on the morning of the match.

With these changes, this four day fixture had lost its first class status.

Younis Khan and Shoaib Malik gave Pakistan XI impetus with a fine 106-run third wicket stand while Muhammad Yousuf and Abdul Razzaq also put on 87-run for the sixth wicket.

Razzaq looked in a punishing mood, hitting five boundaries in his 34 before being bowled by Tanveer Ahmed.

Scoreboard

Karachi Region Ist innings 378

Pakistan XI Ist innings (overnight 192-2)

Imran Farhat b Kaneria 89

Taufiq Umar c Faisal Iqbal b Kaneria 14

Younis Khan b Malik Aftab 75

Shoaib Malik c & b Kaneria 47

Muhammad Yousuf not out 69

Shahid Yousuf c sub (Sabir) b Kaneria 18

Abdul Razzaq b Tanveer 34

Kamran Akmal c Amin b Tanveer 0

M.Asif not out 4

Extras (B-11, LB-2,W-1, NB-11) 17

Total (for 7 wickets declared in 104 overs) 377

Fall of wicket: 1-65, 2-135, 3-241, 4-241, 5-286, 6-373, 7-373

Bowling: Muhammad Sami 23-6-85-0, Tanveer Ahmed 29-3-77-2,

Malik Aftab 21-5-60-1, Danish Kaneria 39-8-126-4, Hasan Raza

3-0-16-0

Karachi Region 2nd innings

Agha Sabir b Imran Tahir 24

Khalid Latif c Kamran b Umar 6

Faisal Athar lbw b Imran Tahir 11

Hasan Raza not out 18

Faisal Iqbal b Arshad Khan 5

Asim Kamal lbw b Arshad 0

Amin-ur-Rehman not out 6

Extras (NB-3) 3

Total (for five wickets in 25 overs) 73

Fall of wicket: 1-14, 2-26, 3-45, 4-61, 5-63

Umar 6-2-12-1, Asif 5-3-9-0, Abdul Razzaq 0.1-0-0-0-0

Arshad Khan 6.5-2-14-2, Imran Tahir 7-0-38-2

Umpires: Saleem Badar & Afzaal Ahmed

Naveed
19th October 2005, 00:24
Asim Kamal 5 & 0 ---> ouch!

Nawazb
19th October 2005, 00:25
aj's fave asim kamal fails again his place has to be underthreat now, anyway good to see youhanna on form and imran tahir taking 2 wickets.

Saj
19th October 2005, 00:27
and Sami 0 for 85 - ouch !

Gasherbrum
19th October 2005, 00:31
stage set for Hasan Raza to go for a big one tomorrow.

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 00:41
Asim Kamal 5 & 0 ---> ouch!

hes been in poor form and this means he may get the chop. am very dissapointed with his performances. If hes dropped now i wont be surprised.

He shud be performing alot better. :(

Monsee
19th October 2005, 00:44
sam had 3 dropped today !



AJ cannot see these posts about Sami or the one about Asim Kamal being out on "0 and 5" in two innings:P

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 00:46
poor sami! :)))

Muddaser
19th October 2005, 00:48
Noddy bhai is right.

Was watching the highlights yesterday.

I believe Imran Farhat was dropped off his bowling too.

Thats 4 drop catches.

sehsan
19th October 2005, 00:51
i am also disappointed by Asim Kamal form. I think he will definetly be dropped now.

Somali Pirate
19th October 2005, 00:52
Sami

0-80:)) :)))

The guy is jinxed.

Aurangzeb
19th October 2005, 01:17
Sami

0-80:)) :)))

The guy is jinxed.

his qismat certainly does suck...80-3 certainly looks a lot better...

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 01:22
Sami

0-80:)) :)))

The guy is jinxed.

maybe its the black cat on his head :)))

Pathan007
19th October 2005, 01:25
Noddy bhai is right.

Was watching the highlights yesterday.

I believe Imran Farhat was dropped off his bowling too.

Thats 4 drop catches.which channel were u watching the hilights on?

Pathan007
19th October 2005, 01:26
Sami

0-80:)) :)))

The guy is jinxed.well given 80runs in 26overs isn't bad unlike the one where he gives 80 in 15overs

Nawazb
19th October 2005, 01:27
i have had enough of these so called pak fans cricticising the coach or picking on single players for cricticism ,why dont they all for once support the pak cricket team as a whole.

Hash
19th October 2005, 01:30
the greatest batsman in the history of Pakistan cricket, the saviour of our team, the LION of Pakistan......Asim Kamal

DM
19th October 2005, 01:34
sami sucks as usual.Not suprising.

What a spear head.Average of 47 and strike rate of 87 spanning over 21 tests.
What a dream!If you think 21 tests is adequate exposure to warrant the merit of those figures, then you'd be also saying that Shahid Afridi is better than Flintoff as Afridi's test figures are currently better in every respect - batting average, batting strike rate, bowling average, bowling strike rate.

(and just to clarify, while it's difficult to substantially say that he's better than Flintoff, I personally would choose Afridi over Flintoff)

DM
19th October 2005, 01:36
It's a pity that Kaneria needed 39 overs to pick up 4 wickets, over 100 runs. I'd love to see him run through teams.

desidude
19th October 2005, 01:41
A good game for Pakistan team's preparation for the upcoming England tour. I dont think Asim Kamal's place is in jeopardy because his record in the international arena is fine. He has batted really well in all the home and away test games. But he should bring consistency to his domestic form as well. Imran Farhat is an improving cricketer and i think he suits for the slot of opener but i am not sure if captain or coach are keen on giving him a chance. I heard in news that Malik and Bazid will be getting the chance. They are both fine cricketers and i am not sure if they are good opening batsmen.

Mercenary
19th October 2005, 01:42
come on guys lets not pick on Asim Kamal too much.

Whilst he hasnt done anything spectacular, neither has he done anything wrong for Pakistan. He's consistently scored fifties and dug in to make our score more respectable when our top order collapsed.

He often has to bat with tailenders so we dont know how good he would be if batting with proper batsmen with a good start behind him!

The only reason I would have Afridi over Asim at number 6 is because Afridi is that penetrative fifth bowler which could help us reach the 20 wickets needed to win a test match.

DM
19th October 2005, 01:43
Agreed, Asim has the makings of high quality test material - it was evident against the West Indies and imo moreso in his innings against Australia.

Aurangzeb
19th October 2005, 01:51
asim along with inzi are the only ones on the test team who can perform under extreme pressure...by the looks on the faces of the other batsmen, you can tell they're nervous as hell...

Hash
19th October 2005, 01:52
since when has Asim Kamal ever performed under extreme pressure?

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 02:00
since when has Asim Kamal ever performed under extreme pressure?

1st test in mohali, maybe u had ur tv switched off. or maybe u where asleep when he kept pakistan in game with his knock in 1st inns.

2ndly ur comments on asim the lion of pakistan.

NO one has proclaimed him a SUPERSTAR OR WORLD CLASS OR GREAT BATSMEN etc..

everyone knows hes an honest player who grafts and plays well in tests under his limitations.

hes not been branded a FUTURE DUPERSTAR like s butt, i farhat, i nazir, basit ali etc of this world...

Hash
19th October 2005, 03:03
ok so one innings under extreme pressure. Well done Asim!

2ndly....read back through all your posts about Asim Kamal. Honestly it would not surprise me if he is your brother, or cousin or uncle or something because the way you harp on about him it would seem as if we have the next Bradman in our midst.

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 03:11
ok so one innings under extreme pressure. Well done Asim!

2ndly....read back through all your posts about Asim Kamal. Honestly it would not surprise me if he is your brother, or cousin or uncle or something because the way you harp on about him it would seem as if we have the next Bradman in our midst.

find one post where ive said asims a world class batsmen or match winner! find just one where ive harped on and on about him being next miandad etc..

You wont find one! if you took 2 mins to read whats written rather than fabricaticing stuff you will find ive always said asim is NOT a match winner etc..

hes an honest player who grafts! big difference! :19:

Nauman
19th October 2005, 03:13
ok so one innings under extreme pressure. Well done Asim!

2ndly....read back through all your posts about Asim Kamal. Honestly it would not surprise me if he is your brother, or cousin or uncle or something because the way you harp on about him it would seem as if we have the next Bradman in our midst.

You should have seen the tantrum which Amjid threw when Noddy gave us news of first test against West Indies but didnt tell us that Youhanna was returning, Amjid thought that Asim Kamal was being dropped, boy were we in for a tantrum :P

Hash
19th October 2005, 03:19
You should have seen the tantrum which Amjid threw when Noddy gave us news of first test against West Indies but didnt tell us that Youhanna was returning, Amjid thought that Asim Kamal was being dropped, boy were we in for a tantrum :P

:))) :))) :)))

I remember that!

Amjid bro.....seriously you acted as if Bradman had been dropped. Go back and read your tantrum. You will see for yourself.

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 03:19
[QUOTE=Amjid Javed]Hash & nauman, tell me what u expect from a new pakistan test batsmen?

i think both of you need a reality check! pakistan isnt full of zaheer abbas`s, javed miandad`s, majid khans etc...

outside of Younis khan, inzamam & MoYo why dont u name me a pakistan batsmen whose set the world alight or shown a great consistancy in tests arena over last 4/5 years??

i nazir, i farhat, t umar, f iqbal, m ul haq, s elahi, y hameed, f adil etc.. the lists endless interms of failures..

Kamal may not be a world beater or a superstar. However in patches hes shown some decent application and heart. Inshallah he will get better!

sadly most fans on here expect every new batsmen playing for pakistan has to score 100 every game and win tests afta test for pakistan...! time to wake up to reality..!

Hash
19th October 2005, 03:29
don't expect that at all.

I just don't think Asim Kamal is as good as you make out. Like the tantrum you threw when you thought he had been dropped for the WI game. You acted as if dropping Kamal was the most idiotic and painful thing anyone could ever dream of doing. You didn't act as if someone who had 'in patches shown dome decent application' had been dropped. You acted as if Bradman had been dropped!

My opinion on Asim Kamal?

He has shown he has the potential to be a useful test number 6 (eg Mohali) but he needs to show more consistency and also needs to start scoring when the team really needs him to (eg Australia 1st innings when he batted like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He looked terrified. He was refusing easy singles and got out to the most ridiculous shot I have ever seen) and not when the intensity of the opposition is down and the match is already over.

pakistani pride
19th October 2005, 03:35
Good knocks by younis and moyo !

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 03:42
don't expect that at all.

I just don't think Asim Kamal is as good as you make out. Like the tantrum you threw when you thought he had been dropped for the WI game. You acted as if dropping Kamal was the most idiotic and painful thing anyone could ever dream of doing. You didn't act as if someone who had 'in patches shown dome decent application' had been dropped. You acted as if Bradman had been dropped!

My opinion on Asim Kamal?

He has shown he has the potential to be a useful test number 6 (eg Mohali) but he needs to show more consistency and also needs to start scoring when the team really needs him to (eg Australia 1st innings when he batted like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He looked terrified. He was refusing easy singles and got out to the most ridiculous shot I have ever seen) and not when the intensity of the opposition is down and the match is already over.

on u mean the match at sydney where he looked clueless in 1st inns v macgill and warne. Yeah asim was awful, shameful even.. no other batsmen in history of test cricket has looked as bad as that...

link - http://uk.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2005-06/SUPERS/SCORECARDS/AUS_ICC-XI_SUPERS_T_14-19OCT2005.html

opps then again :13: wasnt the superseries match just played @ sydney.
Look how ****-poor inzi, dravid, lara, kallis, sehwag looked v macgill and warne.. (these guys are suppose to be world class players of spin)

then again maybe i was it was all an illusion!

you judge asim on 1 dodgy inns! no one else has ever looked clueless have they? :))

Raz
19th October 2005, 04:10
So Sami's figures should really be 4-85 if he had 4 catches dropped.

Boy i do hope luck is with him in the England series.

Mercenary
19th October 2005, 04:21
amjid reacted like bradman had been dropped when taufeeq wasnt included in the test squad for Australia and now he's including taufeeq in his list of failures. what can you say?


i nazir, i farhat, t umar, f iqbal, m ul haq, s elahi, y hameed, f adil etc.. the lists endless interms of failures..

Monsee
19th October 2005, 05:17
amjid reacted like bradman had been dropped when taufeeq wasnt included in the test squad for Australia and now he's including taufeeq in his list of failures. what can you say?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amjid Javed
i nazir, i farhat, t umar, f iqbal, m ul haq, s elahi, y hameed, f adil etc.. the lists endless interms of failures..






HaHaHa...and his favorite Imran Farhat is amongst the failures too;-) :D

Amir
19th October 2005, 05:55
Farhat continues to eat our domestic scene up alive. I think he is a great player and believed he did not deserve to be dropped. So much talent and I do not see what he did wrong that got him dropped.

He scores a century against SA on his come back and then had a OK NZ series. Hit a 100 against India followed by 2 50s against Lanka and then in Australia just was a COMPULSIVE HOOKER. Meaning that can be corrected, not like he struggles to play the shot. I think he has so much to offer to our team and I think Butt and him should be our openers for tests.

Lightning
19th October 2005, 07:30
Asim shouldn't be dropped, that would be stupid. He has consistently performed for Pak at test level. These are just some practice matches, they can't count for much.

Big Mac
19th October 2005, 09:27
Asim Kamal is our batting equivalent of Rana, the kiddies will learn to appreciate his awesomeness in time

Somali Pirate
19th October 2005, 14:23
well given 80runs in 26overs isn't bad unlike the one where he gives 80 in 15overs

he could'nt pick a wicket amongst guys like farhat.If this is the guy who is going to spearhead the team against england then it's good night pakistan

Somali Pirate
19th October 2005, 14:27
If you think 21 tests is adequate exposure to warrant the merit of those figures, then you'd be also saying that Shahid Afridi is better than Flintoff as Afridi's test figures are currently better in every respect - batting average, batting strike rate, bowling average, bowling strike rate.

(and just to clarify, while it's difficult to substantially say that he's better than Flintoff, I personally would choose Afridi over Flintoff)

well freddie has started to show some improvement.

Big question to be asked.has sami improved with the NEW BALL?Cn he be trusted to be spearhead and not first change as flintoff?

Hash
19th October 2005, 20:57
MATCH DRAWN

Karachi 378 ao
Pak XI 377 for 7 dec

Karachi 216 ao (Imran Tahir 4 for 99, Amin ur Rehman scored 61)
Pak XI 198 for 9 (Sami 2 for 19, Kaneria 3 for 82, Younis Khan 75 and Imran Farhat 44)

IMMY69
19th October 2005, 21:17
sami took two wickets for 19 runs off 7 overs in the second innings...now had all the catches been taken in the first innings then his match figures would have been something like 6 wickets for 100 runs. umar gul only took one wicket in the second innings for match haul of 4 wickets...

umar gul is a superb prospect and i think he has what it takes to be very succesful (injury permitting)...but those who ridicule sami for not pciking up wickets on the back of just one innings really do need their head tested, especially when they selectively choose to ignore the surrounding facts (i.e. the drop catches)...

AT1
19th October 2005, 21:21
thanks immy

shikari
19th October 2005, 21:29
I think based on form Hasan Raza deserves a chance in the test team ahead of Asim Kamal. On the other hand dropping Asim Kamal seems a bit unfair as he has done a good job at number 6 in test matches. We need to find a way to get both of these guys in. Hasan Raza seems to be in top form these days we need to utilize him and boost his confidence by playing him

AT1
19th October 2005, 21:34
I think based on form Hasan Raza deserves a chance in the test team ahead of Asim Kamal. On the other hand dropping Asim Kamal seems a bit unfair as he has done a good job at number 6 in test matches. We need to find a way to get both of these guys in. Hasan Raza seems to be in top form these days we need to utilize him and boost his confidence by playing him

well said

the only way i can think is to make younis khan open the batting and drop mailk or bazid, putting both asim and hasan.. thee would come yousuf, 4 inzi, 5 hasan, 6 kamal?

yk
19th October 2005, 21:46
MATCH DRAWN

Karachi 378 ao
Pak XI 377 for 7 dec

Karachi 216 ao (Imran Tahir 4 for 99, Amin ur Rehman scored 61)
Pak XI 198 for 9 (Sami 2 for 19, Kaneria 3 for 82, Younis Khan 75 and Imran Farhat 44)

Dam, Karachi nearly won!!

Imran tahir took 4 wickets as well.

http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Scorecards/misc/4/misc4531.html

Toony™®
19th October 2005, 21:50
lol - karachi probably would of beaten pak xi

DM
19th October 2005, 22:47
Good bowling by Sami in the second innings - hehe after he was dropped four times in the first innings, he's gone and done without fielders for his wickets:

Taufeeq Umar (http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/8/8221/8221.html) lbw b Mohammad Sami 1
Kamran Akmal (http://www.pcboard.com.pk/Pakistan/Players/9/9183/9183.html) b Mohammad Sami 7


:D

Aurangzeb
19th October 2005, 22:56
ahahahha taufeeq's troubles continue...i don't know how this guy still has supporters...

Waseem
19th October 2005, 23:17
Look who scored 75 in each inning for Pakistan XI :). Yes he is our one and only useless Khan and 90% of people didn't want to see him ever to play for Pakistan even after the Australian tour and first TEST in India :). You never know how things can change:19:

Muddaser
19th October 2005, 23:17
which channel were u watching the hilights on?

Geo

Amjid Javed
19th October 2005, 23:46
Good to see farhat get runs in 2nd inns aswell.

niether taufeeq/s malik did well opening!

Monsee
19th October 2005, 23:52
Good to see farhat get runs in 2nd inns aswell.

niether taufeeq/s malik did well opening!



Farhat didn't open in 2nd innings...he played down the order

Don't know about you BUT 47 off 117 balls, is not a bad score...I forgot which batsman scored it though:P

Amjid Javed
20th October 2005, 00:00
Farhat didn't open in 2nd innings...he played down the order

Don't know about you BUT 47 off 117 balls, is not a bad score...I forgot which batsman scored it though:P

i know farhat didnt open in 2nd inns! :P

Raz
20th October 2005, 01:14
Excellent bowling from Mohammad Sami in the match whose match figures should read

30-8-104-6.

Raz
20th October 2005, 01:16
Great to see Younis Khan in form with 2 half centuries, MoYo with a half century, Imran Farhat with scores of 89 and 44. Umar Gul bowled reasonably well as well.

Hash
20th October 2005, 01:30
Imran Farhat
Younis Khan
Mohammed Yousuf
Umar Gul
Mohammed Sami

all seem to have played reasonably well and got themselves into some touch. All five would be in my starting XI for the first test so this is good news.

Amjid Javed
20th October 2005, 01:35
Excellent bowling from Mohammad Sami in the match whose match figures should read

30-8-104-6.

:))) they didnt!

it was the usual

104/2 @ ave 51 runs ... atleast hes consistant! :)))

Raz
20th October 2005, 01:37
:))) they didnt!

it was the usual

104/2 @ ave 51 runs ... atleast hes consistant! :)))

Can you read what ive writted first! I said his match figures SHOULD read 6-104 . Dont you think i know what his actual figures were! Had the catches been held he would have had 6 wickets in the match.

Amjid Javed
20th October 2005, 01:58
Can you read what ive writted first! I said his match figures SHOULD read 6-104 . Dont you think i know what his actual figures were! Had the catches been held he would have had 6 wickets in the match.

The catches werent taken.

if farhat wasnt caught in 1st inns he would have not got big score.

if asim wasnt dropped 1st ball in 1st inns muhammed asif would have had a hat-trick.

if herschelle gibbs hadnt dropped s waugh in world cup super sic game maybe aussies wouldnt have won world cup

if razzaq had caught sachin in 03 world cup...

all big "IFS"

REALITY is he took 2/104!

Hash
20th October 2005, 02:00
Kamal Bradman scored a lot of runs too

Raz
20th October 2005, 02:03
The catches werent taken.

if farhat wasnt caught in 1st inns he would have not got big score.

if asim wasnt dropped 1st ball in 1st inns muhammed asif would have had a hat-trick.

if herschelle gibbs hadnt dropped s waugh in world cup super sic game maybe aussies wouldnt have won world cup

if razzaq had caught sachin in 03 world cup...

all big "IFS"

REALITY is he took 2/104!

There are far too many with Sami. Every match he seems to have been dropped. Are you saying in your infinte wisdom that he bowled badly compared to the likes of Gul just because he only offically took 2 wickets.

Amjid Javed
20th October 2005, 02:03
Kamal Bradman scored a lot of runs too

which player was that then? :26:= hash

check scorecard theres no one by that name!

Raz
20th October 2005, 02:06
which player was that then? :26:= hash

check scorecard theres no one by that name!

::J

Hash
20th October 2005, 02:06
;-)

you're a legend amjid bro

Monsee
20th October 2005, 02:19
;-)

you're a legend amjid bro



Ignoring Legend, i.e....once he is caught red handed:D