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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    If there is a Leadership challenge then Mr Corbyn will be reelected by the Membership.

    Though if the PLP vote against him by a big margin he may realise that his position is untenable, step down and allow a moderate unity candidate to take over.
    his is way past his sell by date - I give him until Wednesday next week....

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    Looks like half the Shadow Cabinet are going to quit in protest.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36632956

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Looks like half the Shadow Cabinet are going to quit in protest.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36632956
    Wow, just when you thought this week couldn't get any more eventful.

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    Labour imploding, good riddance to them, maybe a new left wing party that actually represents working class people will emerge. I liked Corbyn he's my local MP but he's a weak ineffectual leader; he should have gone with his heart and campaigned for Brexit and insisted that that MPs could campaign on either side. Labour still hasn't learnt the lesson that its core voters won't be dictated to.

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    Those who are opposing Corbyn are whining that Corbyn didn't campaign hard enough for Brexit yet they are saying nothing about the 27% of Labour voters who voted for Brexit and who were largely unrepresented by the Labour party during this campaign. The party should reflect their members and supporters yet no Labour shadow cabinet member even spoke about Brexit, in fact they showed contempt for those who even considered voted leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    Those who are opposing Corbyn are whining that Corbyn didn't campaign hard enough for Brexit yet they are saying nothing about the 27% of Labour voters who voted for Brexit and who were largely unrepresented by the Labour party during this campaign. The party should reflect their members and supporters yet no Labour shadow cabinet member even spoke about Brexit, in fact they showed contempt for those who even considered voted leave.
    It was 37%.
    This 63:37 split is based on the 2015 election in which large swathes of traditional Labour voters especially in the north deserted the party either by not bothering to vote or going to UKIP, if you take these into account the actual numbers are much higher.

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    *whining that Corbyn didn't campaign hard enough for Remain that should read.

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    Hope that Corbyn doesn't resign and will be on the ballot box if new elections are held for the Leader of the Labour Party. He will then win with an even bigger margin of victory (last time he won with more votes than all the votes of the other leadership candidates added together). Hopefully, the local Labour parties will then de-select all those Blairite MP's who opposed Corbyn so that they will not even have the option of standing as Labour candidates when the next General Election takes place, which might be in as little as four months time.


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    The civil war begins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    Hope that Corbyn doesn't resign and will be on the ballot box if new elections are held for the Leader of the Labour Party. He will then win with an even bigger margin of victory (last time he won with more votes than all the votes of the other leadership candidates added together). Hopefully, the local Labour parties will then de-select all those Blairite MP's who opposed Corbyn so that they will not even have the option of standing as Labour candidates when the next General Election takes place, which might be in as little as four months time.
    So you want to get rid of all the people who disagree with you?

    Trouble with losing the Blairites is that they are the brains trust of the Party. If they are deselected they can run as independents or even start a new party, the left vote will be split and then it's Tories again in 2020. Saw it happen in the mid-eighties with the Gang of Four.

    There won't be a General Election until 2020. The Tories have a Commons majority and they will not do anything to risk losing power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    Those who are opposing Corbyn are whining that Corbyn didn't campaign hard enough for Brexit yet they are saying nothing about the 27% of Labour voters who voted for Brexit and who were largely unrepresented by the Labour party during this campaign. The party should reflect their members and supporters yet no Labour shadow cabinet member even spoke about Brexit, in fact they showed contempt for those who even considered voted leave.
    I think the idea is that if Mr Corbyn had shown leadership and presented a positive impression of the EU representing LAB values such as solidarity, then not so many LAB voters would have been swayed by that racist poster. As it is he goes to Calais and tell all the immigrants they can come to the UK and that scares a lot of his voting base.

    The guy's got no political nous and he's not very bright, I fear. Clearly he has no skill at motivating the PLP. All he knows how to do is protest.

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36633238

    Well according to the BBC he actively sabotaged the Labour remain campaign


    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs on Steve Smith
    And who taught him to bat? Chris Martin? Is he the Australian equivalent of ....wait, I'm struggling to think of another useless player of his calibre.

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    What a joker Jeremy is. His position is now even more untenable than Cameron's was. Time for him to do the honourable thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    So you want to get rid of all the people who disagree with you?
    What right do a group of Blairite MP's have to get rid of a Labour Party leader elected overwhelmingly by the whole of the Labour Party membership, with more votes than all the other candidates put together, less than 1 year ago? If these Blairite's disagree with the rest of the Labour party, who gave Corbyn such a massive mandate, then surely if anyone goes it should be them. The Blairites getting rid of Corbyn is flying in the face of democratic principles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    What right do a group of Blairite MP's have to get rid of a Labour Party leader elected overwhelmingly by the whole of the Labour Party membership, with more votes than all the other candidates put together, less than 1 year ago? If these Blairite's disagree with the rest of the Labour party, who gave Corbyn such a massive mandate, then surely if anyone goes it should be them. The Blairites getting rid of Corbyn is flying in the face of democratic principles.
    The majority of Jeremy's voters joined the Labour Party this year, only to vote for him, and have likely not contributed to any Party activity since. IMO it's unlikely that this phenomenon would occur more than once.

    Besides if Corbyn has any honour he would see that he is clearly tearing his own party to pieces simply by being in the job. If ousted, he should not stand again.

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    The Labour shadow cabinet is emptying fast. 6 resignations and 1 sacking now since midnight. This is like an episode of 24.

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    Whatever the case it's quite obvious that the Labour party under Corbyn can only aspire to be a minor party with no chance of every forming government.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs on Steve Smith
    And who taught him to bat? Chris Martin? Is he the Australian equivalent of ....wait, I'm struggling to think of another useless player of his calibre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    The majority of Jeremy's voters joined the Labour Party this year, only to vote for him, and have likely not contributed to any Party activity since. IMO it's unlikely that this phenomenon would occur more than once.

    Besides if Corbyn has any honour he would see that he is clearly tearing his own party to pieces simply by being in the job. If ousted, he should not stand again.
    But at the end of the day he's been elected by the whole of the Labour Party and not just the MP's.

    The fact of the matter is that he's said he's not going to resign, his name will be on the ballot box again if there is a new leadership election, and it's highly likely that he will win again. Then what? Blairite MP's try and kick him out again? There's more likelihood of the Blairite MP's being kicked out from being the Labour Party candidates in their own constituencies than of removing Corbyn for good. Once that reality sinks in, you'll be surprised at how many of the Blairites suddenly shut-up.


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    And then somehow Boris wins the next general election despite his master plan of losing the exit vote backfiring on him


    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs on Steve Smith
    And who taught him to bat? Chris Martin? Is he the Australian equivalent of ....wait, I'm struggling to think of another useless player of his calibre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    What right do a group of Blairite MP's have to get rid of a Labour Party leader elected overwhelmingly by the whole of the Labour Party membership, with more votes than all the other candidates put together, less than 1 year ago?
    Because they are smarter than the Labour members who elected Mr Corbyn. They know that if he stays in post they will lose in 2020 and there will be a Tory government until at least 2025.

    Sadly, the hard Left are more interesting in ideology than the pragmatism of actually getting elected. Labour can only win if they move back to the centre under a charismatic Leader who can engage the floating voters.

    I'm pleased to see that my MP Miss Malhotra has resigned her post. I have sent her a supportive email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    And then somehow Boris wins the next general election despite his master plan of losing the exit vote backfiring on him
    Cameron outflanked him by resigning. Now Boris has to negotiate EU exit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36633238

    Well according to the BBC he actively sabotaged the Labour remain campaign
    Funny how we didn't see this report until the referendum was lost and Cameron was gone


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    Quote Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri View Post
    Funny how we didn't see this report until the referendum was lost and Cameron was gone
    Why, is Cameron Director-General of the BBC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Why, is Cameron Director-General of the BBC?
    No , its Tony Hall


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    My goodness me - nine of them have resigned now!

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    De-seat all these oppurtunistic clowns.

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    Interesting analysis from Craig Murray

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archi...aq-war-stupid/

    No rational person could blame Jeremy Corbyn for Brexit. So why are the Blairites moving against Corbyn now, with such precipitate haste?

    The answer is the Chilcot Report. It is only a fortnight away, and though its form will be concealed by thick layers of establishment whitewash, the basic contours of Blair’s lies will still be visible beneath. Corbyn had deferred to Blairite pressure not to apologise on behalf of the Labour Party for the Iraq War until Chilcot is published.

    For the Labour Right, the moment when Corbyn as Labour leader stands up in parliament and condemns Blair over Iraq, is going to be as traumatic as it was for the hardliners of the Soviet Communist Party when Khruschev denounced the crimes of Stalin. It would also destroy Blair’s carefully planned post-Chilcot PR strategy. It is essential to the Blairites that when Chilcot is debated in parliament in two weeks time, Jeremy Corbyn is not in place as Labour leader to speak in the debate. The Blairite plan is therefore for the parliamentary party to depose him as parliamentary leader and get speaker John Bercow to acknowledge someone else in that fictional position in time for the Chilcot debate, with Corbyn remaining leader in the country but with no parliamentary status.

    Yes, they are that nuts.

    If the fault line for the Tories is Europe, for Labour it is the Middle East. Those opposing Corbyn are defined by their enthusiasm for bombing campaigns that kill Muslim children. And not only by the UK. Both of the first two to go, Hilary Benn and Heidi Alexander, are hardline supporters of Israel.

    This was Benn the week before his celebrated advocacy of bombing Syria:

    Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.
    Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its “progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary.” He also called Israel “an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise.”
    Consequently, said Benn, “Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist.”
    Heidi Alexander actually signed, as a 2015 parliamentary candidate, the “We Believe in Israel” charter, the provisions of which state there must be no boycotts of Israel, and Israel must not be described as an apartheid state.

    This fault line is very well defined. The manufactured row about “anti-Semitism” in the Labour Party shows exactly the same split. In my researches, 100% of those who have promoted accusations of anti-Semitism were supporters of the Iraq War and/or had demonstrable links to professional pro-Israel lobby groups. 100% of those accused of anti-Semitism were active opponents of the Iraq War. Never underestimate the Blairite fury at being shown not just to be liars but to be wrong. Iraq is their Achilles heel and they are extremely touchy about it.

    No rational person would believe Brexit was Jeremy Corbyn’s fault. No rational person would believe that now is a good moment for the Labour Party to tear itself apart. Extraordinarily, the timing is determined by Chilcot.

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    Interesting post @irfan.

    looking forward to the dumbed down chilcot report (7/8 years in the making)......lets see whether they try Blair for war crimes.

    As for Israel - they are rightfully close allies and have every right to exist - however the UK should condemn them on their heavy handedness (bordering on genocide) against the palestinians & YES it is an apartheid state - this needs to be resolved.

    Sure - I don't blame Brexit on JC - what is a fact is that he was practically invisible throughout the campaign and when he did speak he was hardly convincing - most probably he'd put you to sleep with his monotone drone. JC couldn't sell candy to kids - He is Mr (-).

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    Craig Murray has it spot on .

    Corbyn is a revolutionary figure , not like the Zionist puppets like Benn or clowns like Boris .

    More youth will
    Join the labour & vote to keep him in even by a larger margin next time .

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    Two more have resigned.

    Not all Blairites - some appeared to be Corbynistas. Interesting....

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    Craig Murray is an ex UK Ambassador who knows how the Foreign Office works and was in it at time of Iraq War. No doubt about it the Blairite deep State is trying to subvert democratic processes again. Note that so far the Brownites are sticking with Corbyn. e.g. Andy Burnham and Tom Watson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Two more have resigned.

    Not all Blairites - some appeared to be Corbynistas. Interesting....
    Note how nobody mentions any names because they are all nonentities who Corbyn only included in Cabinet so as to be open and inclusive to right wing of Labour Party.

    The Unions and Members and most MPs still behind Corbyn

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    As for deselection - Frank Field (who survived deselection attempts by Militant in the eighties) says that any Labour MP deselected should immediately resign from the House, triggering a by-election, run as an independent against whatever hard leftist Momentum put up, and let the electorate decide. Which, depending on the seat, will probably mean more Tory MPs as the left vote is split.

    So Momentum could be outmaneuvered here. The last deselection schism triggered the Gang of Four rebellion, and Labour did not recover from that for a decade until Blair took over.

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    Most of the no name resignation loony bunch have been MPs for less than 5 years..... Career suicide or what!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    As for deselection - Frank Field (who survived deselection attempts by Militant in the eighties) says that any Labour MP deselected should immediately resign from the House, triggering a by-election, run as an independent against whatever hard leftist Momentum put up, and let the electorate decide. Which, depending on the seat, will probably mean more Tory MPs as the left vote is split.

    So Momentum could be outmaneuvered here. The last deselection schism triggered the Gang of Four rebellion, and Labour did not recover from that for a decade until Blair took over.
    Let's just overlook the overturning of the huge democratic mandate given to Corbyn by the members. Since he became leader the blairites have been stabbing him in the back, not let him settle into the role.

    The only way forward is for these guys to resign the seats on their accord and trigger a by election. if they wish to stand as independent then so be it. Their position in the party is untenable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Because they are smarter than the Labour members who elected Mr Corbyn. They know that if he stays in post they will lose in 2020 and there will be a Tory government until at least 2025.

    Sadly, the hard Left are more interesting in ideology than the pragmatism of actually getting elected. Labour can only win if they move back to the centre under a charismatic Leader who can engage the floating voters.

    I'm pleased to see that my MP Miss Malhotra has resigned her post. I have sent her a supportive email.
    In other words, going by your logic, democratic principles can be thrown out of the window if they don't fit the agenda of these supposedly 'smarter' Labour members, despite the fact that these 'smarter' Labour members had their backsides kicked when they were overwhelmingly beaten by the vast majority of Labour members who elected Corbyn as leader?
    Jeremy Corbyn has said he will be a candidate again if there was to be a new Labour leadership election. In which case these 'smarter' members will get their backsides kicked again and Corbyn will win - again. What are they going to do then? Go join the Tories? Probably!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Let's just overlook the overturning of the huge democratic mandate given to Corbyn by the members. Since he became leader the blairites have been stabbing him in the back, not let him settle into the role.

    The only way forward is for these guys to resign the seats on their accord and trigger a by election
    . if they wish to stand as independent then so be it. Their position in the party is untenable.
    If, as is likely, the new Tory Prime Minister calls a snap General Election then there will be no by-elections even if these Blairites resign their seats tomorrow. Lets see who takes notice of them then when they are standing as independents in a General Election when the whole of the media attention is not just on one by-election..


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    Corbynistas Assemble



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    Most of the no name resignation loony bunch have been MPs for less than 5 years..... Career suicide or what!!
    Since Labour under Mr Corbyn will never regain power, there is no career progression for them anyway. Hence the revolt - get someone electable as Leader in the hope of becoming Cabinet Ministers in 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    If, as is likely, the new Tory Prime Minister calls a snap General Election then there will be no by-elections even if these Blairites resign their seats tomorrow.
    What possible reason does Mrs May (or whoever) have to cause a snap General Election? She has a Commons majority. No need to change that until 2020.

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    And the resignation parade continues as the Shadow Welsh Secretary quits....

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    Poor Jezza.

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    Now Shadow Environment Sec goes too.

    A letter is going round Young Labour activists urging JC to step down.....

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    And now Tom Watson tells JC to resign. Et tu, Watto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    And now Tom Watson tells JC to resign. Et tu, Watto?
    No he didn't. Told him it's looking like there will be a challenge.

    The loons and the lemmings should unite and challenge corbyn.

    If corbyn is re-elected, they should resign and move on from Labour Party.

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    Shadow Housing Sec resigns. That's 19 counting the sacking and two who have not resigned but are refusing to serve JC.

    Angela Eagle - hardly a Blairite - writes to JC telling him he must go.

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    20, as Maria Eagle follows her sister and walks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle_Eye View Post
    No he didn't. Told him it's looking like there will be a challenge.
    Ah yes,looks like the Beeb site initially misquoted him.

    And now Kate Green quits.

    I wonder how many loyalist MPs JC has? The Indi reckons just 20 of 180.

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    As this rate it will just him and his Ex- Diane Abbott.

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    Most of the MPs in the PLP are Blairites.

    The Brexit vote and Chilcot Report should be last nail in their coffin. Time to re-make the Labour Party as a true Progressive Left coalition not a Corporatist shill for special interests like Murdoch/Israel.

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    The Eagle sisters are not Blairites and It's curious that Blairite Burnham has stayed on.

    It is clear that Jezza doesn't lead the Labour Party. He leads a pressure group called Momentum. In not resigning he mistakes rigidity for strength.

    Meanwhile, 57 Labour Parliamentary candidates sign a letter telling Jezza to go....

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    The union ride like the 7th Cavalry to relieve Comrade Custer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    20, as Maria Eagle follows her sister and walks.
    It was being rumoured well before Hilary Benn was fired on Saturday night that there was a carefully co-ordinated plan to spread the resignations out one at a time, with an hour or so between each one, as opposed to mass resignations in one go, so as to keep the whole thing in the headlines for an elongated period.

    That kind of meticulous planning and co-ordination takes time to organise and get everybody on-board so that they can resign at the correct time allotted to them along with the specific wording of each resignation..


    In other words clear cut proof that none of this has anything to do with the Brexit result, and that this plan would have been carried out even if the Remain vote had won. In fact since everyone expected Remain to win, this just gives added weight to the fact that the reasons being forward are a pack of lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    It was being rumoured well before Hilary Benn was fired on Saturday night that there was a carefully co-ordinated plan to spread the resignations out one at a time, with an hour or so between each one, as opposed to mass resignations in one go, so as to keep the whole thing in the headlines for an elongated period.

    That kind of meticulous planning and co-ordination takes time to organise and get everybody on-board so that they can resign at the correct time allotted to them along with the specific wording of each resignation..


    In other words clear cut proof that none of this has anything to do with the Brexit result, and that this plan would have been carried out even if the Remain vote had won. In fact since everyone expected Remain to win, this just gives added weight to the fact that the reasons being forward are a pack of lies.
    Unless it is actually proven to be true it's a tad premature to consider this anything more than just an "interesting" theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian View Post
    It was being rumoured well before Hilary Benn was fired on Saturday night that there was a carefully co-ordinated plan to spread the resignations out one at a time, with an hour or so between each one, as opposed to mass resignations in one go, so as to keep the whole thing in the headlines for an elongated period.
    In other news, Sun rises in East!

    Benn put Jezza in a position to sack him and that was the trigger for the timed resignations. These people ain't dumb.

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    im not a labour supporter (post blair), but this mutiny is deplorable.

    Quote Originally Posted by s28 View Post
    Note how nobody mentions any names because they are all nonentities who Corbyn only included in Cabinet so as to be open and inclusive to right wing of Labour Party.

    The Unions and Members and most MPs still behind Corbyn
    that seems to have been his biggest mistake. lets hope he can this time put his foot down, and action some blood letting to rid the party of this undemocratic, myopic small picture cancer.

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    Labour MPs openly laughing at their own leader.


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    The modern Labour party, the gift that keeps on giving.


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    Unfair to call this a Blairite coup. Richard Burden is no Zionist, he's Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group for Palestine and he's resigned too as Shadow Transport Minister. The MPs who've resigned were part of the shadow cabinet as they tried to make it work with Corbyn. The real Blairites like Kendall, Hunt, Cooper and Umunna have been on the backbenches.

    500+ young Labour members, youth councillors and activists have signed a letter calling on Corbyn to step down so its not just the MPs.

    That being said, the establishment media have looked to stir the pot since Day 1 and I'm sympathetic to those in the Corbyn camp who make that argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post


    Labour MPs openly laughing at their own leader.

    Hilarious....Thanks for sharing.

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    Well, this is it - Jezza has led Labour over a cliff.

    Stand by for Tory rule in perpetuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Shadow Housing Sec resigns. That's 19 counting the sacking and two who have not resigned but are refusing to serve JC.

    Angela Eagle - hardly a Blairite - writes to JC telling him he must go.
    Perhaps not, but an imbecilic warmongerer nonetheless. She blames JC for Brexit or that's the line she's assumed but she perhaps needs to reflect on her own shambolic and inept performance in the televised debate; she unintentionally tuned people towards leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan View Post
    Perhaps not, but an imbecilic warmongerer nonetheless. She blames JC for Brexit or that's the line she's assumed but she perhaps needs to reflect on her own shambolic and inept performance in the televised debate; she unintentionally tuned people towards leave.
    Yep, JC is single handedly responsible for Brexiteers winning with 17.4 million voting to leave. These MP's blaming Corbyn for the fact that Labour voters in their own towns and cities voted to leave had nothing to do with their own inept performances? Surely it was their responsibility, and not Corbyn's, to go knocking on doors in their own constituencies exhorting voters to vote for the remain campaign?

    I am actually looking forward to a new leadership election, and to see who amongst these brave principled souls would will be willing to stand against Corbyn knowing that, just like a year ago, they'll get their backsides kicked again. So I hope that Corbyn doesn't resign, stands again, and dishes out a good kicking to these Blairites.
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    I was at Parliament Square today for the massive pro-Corbyn Momentum Rally, organised at just 24 hours notice, attended by over 10,000 people despite it clashing with ENG v ICE

    Corbyn has a deep and broad range of support amongst the Labour Party members, Unions and electorate. The PLP are exactly the same Establishment Elite who have been rejected by Brexit vote. Corbyn is the only one with a mandate to lead. The suggested alternatives are mere political pygmies who will be rejected emphatically by the membership for their disgusting treachery. Fascinating that they think Corbyn is 'unelectable' but nobody amongst the pretenders will throw their hat into the ring... is it because the sad truth is they are even more unelectable than Corbyn ? Yes looking at you Hilary Benn who vociferously argued for bombing of kids. Or you Tom Watson the 'noncefinder general' who is regarded as having let down thousands of victims of CSA. Or you Angela Eagle, a lightweight nonentity only given a platform by a compliant and servile MSM media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan View Post
    Perhaps not, but an imbecilic warmongerer nonetheless. She blames JC for Brexit or that's the line she's assumed but she perhaps needs to reflect on her own shambolic and inept performance in the televised debate; she unintentionally tuned people towards leave.

    Interesting how you feel you must belittle people whose views differ to yours with insults. Take a look into yourself and ask honestly what that reveals about your character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s28 View Post

    Corbyn has a deep and broad range of support amongst the Labour Party members, Unions and electorate. The PLP are exactly the same Establishment Elite who have been rejected by Brexit vote. Corbyn is the only one with a mandate to lead. The suggested alternatives are mere political pygmies who will be rejected emphatically by the membership for their disgusting treachery. Fascinating that they think Corbyn is 'unelectable' but nobody amongst the pretenders will throw their hat into the ring... is it because the sad truth is they are even more unelectable than Corbyn ? Yes looking at you Hilary Benn who vociferously argued for bombing of kids. Or you Tom Watson the 'noncefinder general' who is regarded as having let down thousands of victims of CSA. Or you Angela Eagle, a lightweight nonentity only given a platform by a compliant and servile MSM media.
    And the belittlement goes on. Is this really the new kind of politics? To me it sounds nasty. Look into your own heart - is this really the sort of man you are?

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    So @s28, that tweet makes it OK for you to use the same type of language to describe people who disagree with you?

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    The plotters are all Blairites who mainly voted for Iraq War and illegal regime change...



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    Quote Originally Posted by s28 View Post
    The plotters are all Blairites who mainly voted for Iraq War and illegal regime change...
    Practically all Labour MPs voted for the Iraq War - right, centre, left.

    And the plotters are not all Blairites - increasing numbers are from the Left. Stop blaming and demonising people! Stop looking for an Enemy! We are all the same!

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    Motion of No Confidence in Mr Corbyn passed 172-40.

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    If he doesn't resign now, that's not defiance any more, it is just a lack of class. As a manager in a large organisation I have numerous direct reports - a vote of no confidence confirmed at 80%, and an honourable man resigns. If it happened to me tomorrow, I would resign. If Corbyn fans continue to support his leadership claim even now, they too are classless, and more interested in their own weird cult of personality than the success of Labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Interesting how you feel you must belittle people whose views differ to yours with insults. Take a look into yourself and ask honestly what that reveals about your character.
    Thanks for your concern I look inwards on a daily basis but please spare me your sanctimonious pop psychoanalysis. When you advocate the murder and blowing up of children to smithereens prepare to be challenged and if you are unable to justify your proposed action then be thick skinned enough to bear all that comes your way verbally, which I'm sure she is. It's not lightly that I use those words, not bombs btw, it's after having listened to her arguments/interview over a number of years and she has been woeful in all areas whether supporting the Remain campaign, as shadow business or in support of war and bombing. At least Hillary Benn who I vehemently disagree with was able to present a cogent argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irfan View Post
    Thanks for your concern I look inwards on a daily basis but please spare me your sanctimonious pop psychoanalysis.
    See, you're doing it again!

    No psychoanalysis - just heartfelt advice of a grandfather. Put out bad energy, and guess what you attract? Stop the belittlement of people and your life will improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    See, you're doing it again!

    No psychoanalysis - just heartfelt advice of a grandfather. Put out bad energy, and guess what you attract? Stop the belittlement of people and your life will improve.
    Please stick to the substantive argument, i could easily say stop bombing innocent children!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    If he doesn't resign now, that's not defiance any more, it is just a lack of class. As a manager in a large organisation I have numerous direct reports - a vote of no confidence confirmed at 80%, and an honourable man resigns. If it happened to me tomorrow, I would resign. If Corbyn fans continue to support his leadership claim even now, they too are classless, and more interested in their own weird cult of personality than the success of Labour.

    Aye?

    He was voted in by members. Do 80% of the Labour members want him to resign now? It doesn't matter what a couple of dozen politicians want, they are known to be sell outs who work for self interets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    See, you're doing it again!

    No psychoanalysis - just heartfelt advice of a grandfather. Put out bad energy, and guess what you attract? Stop the belittlement of people and your life will improve.
    lol Get a grip Robert.

    Those who supported for the Iraq war have blood on their hands. Tony Blair should be hung in public if there is any real justice in this world and those who supported him, claiming to be servents of democracy but are only politiciians servring their self interests should follow him.

    Its amazing when people whine about ISIS being some monster when their own politicians have more blood on their hands than all the terror group put together. Wake to reality Robert and do yoursel some justice man.
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