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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippy View Post
    lol. oh come on.
    We haven't heard his side of the story yet. I rather not be someone who swears his head off and calls Rooney every name under the sun without at least knowing why he doesn't want to return.


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    the timeline of this whole fiasco makes a lot of sense, vis-a-vis his loss of form and his general apathy on the pitch. whilst I think he may eventually regret leaving, it is clearly all he wants to do. whatever the reasons (and they are probably very selfish), let him go in January for as much money as you can get. good luck Wayne, you'll need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed-sohail View Post
    GA GG is not there anymore is he?Terry Christian was the best wind up merchant on talksport.Loved every minute of his shows.
    GG came back BUT only does 1 show a week - friday night 10pm til 1am

    I have never heard Terry Christian on Talksport and I would never want to - the guy is just a mong

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    Thanks for that GA.I don't tune in talksport on weekend nights with Stephen Nolan on 5live at the same time and didn't know he was.back.
    As for Terry he was on talksport couple of years ago doing sat evenings.Knew him through a local station.big Utd fan and a smashing fella.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed-sohail View Post
    Thanks for that GA.I don't tune in talksport on weekend nights with Stephen Nolan on 5live at the same time and didn't know he was.back.
    As for Terry he was on talksport couple of years ago doing sat evenings.Knew him through a local station.big Utd fan and a smashing fella.
    which is why I dont like him () and he is camp

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy_07 View Post
    Fair enough, but from what was revealed today it seems his mind was made up before his off-field antics were exposed anyway.
    that's my take as well. His agent has been planning this for at least a year imo

    let the contract get to January with 18 months left and then Rooney holds all the aces heading towards the final 12 months and walking away free

    Rooney moves to either Man City or Chelsea or maybe abroad but I can't see that. And because he's on a free, he gets a huge deal and massive signing on fee

    regardless of the NOTW expose, this would still have happened anyway imo

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    I am leaning towards changing my avatar picture.

    I have always considered Rooney as a player that gives it his all on the field. A man who would never give up on the team and would keep fighting for Manchester United. A man I termed as my favorite footballer in the world.

    This is just pathetic.

    First sign of trouble and he wants to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    This is just pathetic.

    First sign of trouble and he wants to leave.
    He's not the 1st player to have personal problems - and in each case, its always of his own doing, so he only has himself to blame!

    If he has inner demons, he will be taking them to his next club...


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    is true he has been offer 50 grans a week more by city


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    I listened to the whole interview on BBC 5Live - its an extraordinary interview / press conference form Ferguson!

    Prior to 2pm all the talk was 'Sir Alex to get a grilling from the press' etc

    It was nothing of the sort! No grilling required. He just let it all out!

    I think he's taken this one very personally - he openly admits he was shocked by Rooney wanting to leave.


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    Quote Originally Posted by madaboutlfc View Post
    is true he has been offer 50 grans a week more by city
    I heard it was 500 grans a week - they'll be shipping them in from all over the place.

    David Cameron not happy it will reduce increase the trade defecit further...


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    Fergie looked gutted. understandable, I had Rooney down as one to stay at United for the rest of his career. had a chance to go down as one of the all-time United legends, but will end up as merely a very good United player. like Ronaldo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    I am leaning towards changing my avatar picture.

    I have always considered Rooney as a player that gives it his all on the field. A man who would never give up on the team and would keep fighting for Manchester United. A man I termed as my favorite footballer in the world.
    do you believe in santa claus too...

    BUT there is no reason he should not still be your favourite footballer



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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK View Post
    do you believe in santa claus too...

    BUT there is no reason he should not still be your favourite footballer
    You mean those presents I got weren't from Santa Claus?!

    I think i'll just stick with Ryan Giggs.

    Now that's a loyal guy and a brilliant player to boot for the past 20 years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    I think i'll just stick with Ryan Giggs.

    Now that's a loyal guy and a brilliant player to boot for the past 20 years or so.

    you have to hand it to giggs to be fair

    he has lived his life away from the headlines and the glare

    unlike the croxteth chav



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    I cant see him settling abroad - guy struggles with English, how the hell would he cope with Italian or Spanish?

    Man City? You would go there to make money, not win the Premiership or Champions League.

    Leaves London clubs - Arsenal? Not good enough. Chelsea? Their day of spending like Man City appear to be over. Spurs? 'appy 'arry will buy/sell anyone!

    Liverpool? Great, I get to jeer Rooney when Liverpool play Cardiff in the Championship next season

    I think his and Man U's options are limited.

    My verdict: He'll go to Man City


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    Quote Originally Posted by TAK View Post
    you have to hand it to giggs to be fair

    he has lived his life away from the headlines and the glare

    unlike the croxteth chav
    That's cos Giggs was never a chav, neither was Scholes

    The problem the likes of Rooney, Carroll have is that despite becoming famous and rich they will always remain chavs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxy View Post
    I cant see him settling abroad - guy struggles with English, how the hell would he cope with Italian or Spanish?

    Man City? You would go there to make money, not win the Premiership or Champions League.

    Leaves London clubs - Arsenal? Not good enough. Chelsea? Their day of spending like Man City appear to be over. Spurs? 'appy 'arry will buy/sell anyone!

    Liverpool? Great, I get to jeer Rooney when Liverpool play Cardiff in the Championship next season

    I think his and Man U's options are limited.

    My verdict: He'll go to Man City
    Well I dont think they are far off challenging - actually based on what we have seen so far they have as much chance as Man-U of winning the league

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    Was interesting listening to the Sky pundits on SSN after today's champions league matches talking about the Rooney issue.

    All were absolutely shocked by the news- they too thought Rooney was a cert to see out the rest of his career at MUFC. They all also agreed that wherever he moves, it will be a step down from Manchester United.

    Paul Merson was adamant that Rooney has been "tapped up", he said how can the main man at Manchester United, the world's biggest football club (in his words) turn up one day and say he wants to leave without already having his next move lined up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxy View Post

    Liverpool? Great, I get to jeer Rooney when Liverpool play Cardiff in the Championship next season
    Early days BUT a good start to the season for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy_07 View Post
    Was interesting listening to the Sky pundits on SSN after today's champions league matches talking about the Rooney issue.

    All were absolutely shocked by the news- they too thought Rooney was a cert to see out the rest of his career at MUFC. They all also agreed that wherever he moves, it will be a step down from Manchester United.

    Paul Merson was adamant that Rooney has been "tapped up", he said how can the main man at Manchester United, the world's biggest football club (in his words) turn up one day and say he wants to leave without already having his next move lined up.
    That's cos they are not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed View Post
    That's cos they are not
    Forbes says hello.

    Ironically Rooney has injured his ankle in training. The tackler? Paul Ginger Ninja Scholes. I hope we sign his doppleganger from Newcastle, I am gonna miss seeing a ginger face in our squad


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    Wes brown is a ginger



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    Wayne rooney can go to city or anywhere else.People are too quick to predict Utd,s demise but forget few facts.
    When Roman came at chelsea and signed every top player available.Even hijacked Robben and Ballaks proposed moves to OT.We didn't even come close to winning the league for three seasons.Made early exits from CL and people were doubting the great man.

    What happens next we power our way to league title with most signings at relatively cheap price.Players like Ronaldo Evra Vidic Carrick and Saha weren't big money signings in a climate where chelsea were paying 25m for anyone who could kick a football.Keeper was bought from fulham.Roman sacks Mourinho and we dominate again.

    You can celebrate now but Fergie will have the last laugh.Wayne had one great season when valencia and Berbaclass were creating goal scoring chances left right and centre.Apart from that he has been hit n miss.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed-sohail View Post
    Wayne rooney can go to city or anywhere else.People are too quick to predict Utd,s demise but forget few facts.
    When Roman came at chelsea and signed every top player available.Even hijacked Robben and Ballaks proposed moves to OT.We didn't even come close to winning the league for three seasons.Made early exits from CL and people were doubting the great man.

    What happens next we power our way to league title with most signings at relatively cheap price.Players like Ronaldo Evra Vidic Carrick and Saha weren't big money signings in a climate where chelsea were paying 25m for anyone who could kick a football.Keeper was bought from fulham.Roman sacks Mourinho and we dominate again.

    You can celebrate now but Fergie will have the last laugh.Wayne had one great season when valencia and Berbaclass were creating goal scoring chances left right and centre.Apart from that he has been hit n miss.
    I love the enthusiasm and usually I post that here as well. Unfortunately, this is a really big hole to fix and it is not going to take one year to do it. And with that being said, Sir Alex is not getting any younger and you have to wonder when he says enough is enough - time for my family. I think a lot of the older fans (from what I have read here and other places) have said they never seen the man so dejected. Today, for the first time he really showed his age and you could see it upon his face.

    I love SAF but in today's climate of just ridiculous sugar daddys who have nothing better to do with their money, our debt situation...it won't be easy to return to our old days. We will still be competitive because we are United, we have SAF for little while more and we have a good crop of youngsters. All dynasty's eventually have to come to an end and such a shame we weren't a little more selfish. If we didn't agree to the revenue sharing scheme, we could make a lot more money and compete with the riches of Real, City and Chelsea without a sugar daddy.

    Nonetheless, our history has been littered with instances where we been written off. Or we had to rebuild ourselves and we have. We will keep the Red Flag flying high.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Forbes says hello.

    Ironically Rooney has injured his ankle in training. The tackler? Paul Ginger Ninja Scholes. I hope we sign his doppleganger from Newcastle, I am gonna miss seeing a ginger face in our squad
    Real Madrid and Barcelona say goodbye

    As for the ginger? I dont think we have a ginger (well not in the first team)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Forbes says hello.

    Ironically Rooney has injured his ankle in training. The tackler? Paul Ginger Ninja Scholes. I hope we sign his doppleganger from Newcastle, I am gonna miss seeing a ginger face in our squad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed View Post
    Real Madrid and Barcelona say goodbye

    As for the ginger? I dont think we have a ginger (well not in the first team)
    Don't play stupid with me, you know who I am talking about. Hand him over and no one gets hurt...

    (That kid that got the pic with Sir Bobby Charlton - the Scholes doppleganger. There is only one Scholes doppleganger! Well two if you count McShane)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Don't play stupid with me, you know who I am talking about. Hand him over and no one gets hurt...

    (That kid that got the pic with Sir Bobby Charlton - the Scholes doppleganger. There is only one Scholes doppleganger! Well two if you count McShane)
    Ah right - he is only kid man, stay away from him (I just hope he isnt a chav)


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    Quote Originally Posted by madaboutlfc View Post
    Tom Hicks says wheres my $800million
    "It hurts me to say it but Manchester United ARE the biggest football club in the world." according to Phil Thompson on Sky Sports.

    Now I know you won't argue with me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Poor United fans, don't think they ever treated any of their players ill. Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo but in last 3 years, all have kicked us in the teeth.
    Poor United fans? You're having a laugh. Try being a fan of a club like Leeds United who have had to suffer 2 relegations thanks to financial mismanagement. Try being a fan of Sheffield Wednesday or Man City, who also suffered relegation from the Premiership to the 3rd division, despite having a proud history in the top flight. Your best player wants to leave? Boo hoo. It happens to all clubs.

    I'm sorry, but I can't see how there can be much sympathy for United 'fans', when the majority of you have no loyalty to the town/city you are from, you don't bother supporting your local club and choose to glory support instead. I can't think of a more deserving set of 'fans' who have to experience their once loyal talisman deciding he no longer wants anything to do with a club who's future is uncertain, and who's ambition is questionable. The same applies for the majority of your fans. If you were starved of success for say 5 years, we'll see how many of those loyal glory supporters stay loyal to a club who have no glory. My heart bleeds. Actually no it doesn't, it's laughing hysterically.

    Alex Ferguson got rid of Paul Ince, Jaap Stam, David Beckham, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Roy Keane because of personal differences. It's alright for him to shift out other star players who didn't want to leave, now a star player he wants to keep wants to leave. Karma.

    Also, how can you even mention Tevez and criticise him for leaving? He wanted to remain at Old Trafford but your manager didn't want/couldn't afford him. If it was down to Tevez he'd still be playing for the red side of Manchester. Fortune seems to have smiled on him though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxy View Post
    Man City? You would go there to make money, not win the Premiership or Champions League.
    You would have said the same abaout Chelsea in 2003.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    Forbes says hello
    Ah yes, the Forbes list of clubs from a financial perspective. Using this as an example is effectively similar in saying that Yaya Toure is a better midfielder than Michael Essien, because he takes home more money each week. All Forbes does is show who has the best marketing strategies over recent years, not who is the biggest club (although it depends on how you define biggest club).

    Looking at the Forbes list, Manchester United are 3rd in terms of revenue (turnover). $74m behind Barcelona, and $104m behind Real Madrid. Did Forbes say hello?

    If you want to look at average attendances, Barcelona have the best in Europe.

    I like to define 'biggest club' as the one with the most impressive trophy cabinet. Looking at the top domestic and european competition, Man United are not even the biggest in the country yet. They have won the league or top european competition 21 times. Liverpool have achieved this 23 times. Barcelona have done this 23 times. AC Milan have done this 24 times. Bayern Munich 26 times. Juventus 29 times. Real Madrid have done this 40 times.

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    Manchester United for life..





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    Quote Originally Posted by Grenade View Post
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    This was always a hollow gesture, after his "once a blue, always a blue" bakwaas whilst at Everton

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    Poor United fans? You're having a laugh. Try being a fan of a club like Leeds United who have had to suffer 2 relegations thanks to financial mismanagement. Try being a fan of Sheffield Wednesday or Man City, who also suffered relegation from the Premiership to the 3rd division, despite having a proud history in the top flight. Your best player wants to leave? Boo hoo. It happens to all clubs.
    You guys were lapping it up when you were in the CL and spending out of your limits. Give it a rest. Hard to feel sorry for a club like Leeds and its fans. I am saying it from the perspective that the fans always supported Roon through thick and thin, same with Tevez and Ronaldo.

    Not United's problem that they created a successful brand for themselves and people support them around the world. I hear the same whine from Liverpool fans who accuse United of buying success in the 90s. Its called how to do business, maybe if Leeds knew what that was they wouldn't have been relegated.

    Also, how can you even mention Tevez and criticise him for leaving? He wanted to remain at Old Trafford but your manager didn't want/couldn't afford him. If it was down to Tevez he'd still be playing for the red side of Manchester. Fortune seems to have smiled on him though.
    No United fan denied Tevez leaving. He had a right too. But he didn't need to act like such a big prat trying to turn our own manager against us. And then his antics just continued. He is just a boy in a mans body. Look at Ronaldo and how much respects he gives to United despite leaving.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    No United fan denied Tevez leaving. He had a right too. But he didn't need to act like such a big prat trying to turn our own manager against us. And then his antics just continued. He is just a boy in a mans body. Look at Ronaldo and how much respects he gives to United despite leaving.
    Rooney is a boy in a mans body not Tevez. Or Gary Neville is a boy in a man's body. Tevez plays with so much heart, as a footballer he isn't as gifted as Torres or Rooney but oddly he performs better than them week in week out.

    I think it was SAF that tried to turn Tevez against the club. He was the one that declared Tevez was not worth the price he paid for Berbatov.

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    I think it was SAF that tried to turn Tevez against the club. He was the one that declared Tevez was not worth the price he paid for Berbatov.
    And he was right too. For any objective (keyword) football fan that saw Tevez that season he was horrible. He was given more than enough chances when Rooney got injured and could not cement his place in the team. Its great his form for City turned out but it did not turn out that 2nd season for United and unfortunately we could not splash another 30M on just a hunch.

    Furthermore, Tevez is a boy. He is very immature in how he behaves. With United fans, with SAF ("Oh I didn't feel loved" - are you a child?) and now at City he is acting out at Mancini. Once a month he issues a quote like "I don't love football, why am I here?"


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    we survived when CR left...we will live even if he leaves....thres nothing and no one bigger than the club..sorry wayne...MAN UTD comes first....

    im sure SAF has some one lined up in the jan transfer window


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    yet tevez keeps scoring and scoring and makes people at man united look like fools considering what they paid for berbatov.. anyway all this talk of man u dying is rubbish.. I mean Allah left satan on this planet till the judgement day i believe and they are the devil. ;)


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    saw fergusons interview...haha.. enjoyed that.. he looked devastated.. it was as if he was choking on his own phlegm..


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    Quote Originally Posted by shaykh1985 View Post
    Looks to me that Rooney will leave...the NOTW sting has screwed with his life
    Nothing to do with the NOTW sting bhai.

    Rooney gave in his transfer request on 14th August.

    Its all about money.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ShehryarK View Post
    Nothing to do with the NOTW sting bhai.

    Rooney gave in his transfer request on 14th August.

    Its all about money.
    Or the World Cup. All we know is that everything was fine before the World Cup and after every thing changed. Something went wrong in that time period.

    Either Coleen found out, maybe he got jealous of his colleagues in the England dressing room? Or maybe he wants out of England after he got torn to shreds for his bad performance. In the World Cup, I think you could see how disillusioned he was growing with the fans (acting out in only the 2nd game).

    Why doesn't the idiot just speak rather than try to come up with some crafty response his lawyer wrote for him.


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    I wonder what united fans`ll make of him should he decide to play for citeh.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAJID-SHAH View Post
    I wonder what united fans`ll make of him should he decide to play for citeh.....
    I think he will get a standing ovation

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    Word is that his wife wanted to move to Spain or Italy.

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    Both Mancini and Mourinho have stated that think Rooney will stay at United ... are they trying to use reverse psychology or something ... or maybe they don't really want or need Rooney ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kashif77 View Post
    Both Mancini and Mourinho have stated that think Rooney will stay at United ... are they trying to use reverse psychology or something ... or maybe they don't really want or need Rooney ?
    Mancini is reverse psychologically. I have no doubt Rooney to City will give them the PL title. But moreover, its going to be Tevez x1000. They would get him just to spite us even if they didn't need him.

    Mourinho, he just wants the job at United I love how much he praises us.


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    It is one of two things I guess for Rooney - either he is sick of the country and wants to go abroad (hardly blame him) or he wants mega bucks at Citeh

    Obviously Man-U fans would prefer to see him go to Spain/Italy cos seeing him in a Citeh shirt would surely hurt . . . . . A LOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed View Post
    It is one of two things I guess for Rooney - either he is sick of the country and wants to go abroad (hardly blame him)
    How come? Oxy or someone on this thread said it correctly, if you are going to lap up the media when all is good (They got paid 5 million for their wedding!), then you have to take good with the bad. Your in the limelight cause of oyur football so when you don't perform to standards (IE World Cup) you deserve some criticism!


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    Fergie's not a clown (despite the red nose) and he knows after letting Ronaldo go he wouldn't be blamed too much for that due to the ridiculous feed Real paid and they couldn't really turn it down. He can be partly blamed for letting Tevez go and despite United fans booing him when he went back there, he's been in **** hot from with something like 23 goals in his last 28 games.

    If he then let Rooney go, their fans would kick up a stink so he's let them know who is behind it all and who to vent at.


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    Rooney Confirms He Wants To Leave

    Source- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/9112052.stm
    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...456970,00.html

    Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney has confirmed that he wishes to leave the club.

    The 24-year-old said he will not be signing a new contract with the Old Trafford outfit following a meeting with chief executive David Gill.

    "I met with David Gill last week and he did not give me any of the assurances I was seeking about the future squad", said the England international. "I then told him that I would not be signing a new contract".

    Rooney also admitted he was shocked by Ferguson's comments on Tuesday, adding: "I was interested to hear what Sir Alex had to say yesterday and surprised by some of it. It is absolutely true, as he said, that my agent and I have had a number of meetings with the club about a new contract. During those meetings in August I asked for assurances about the continued ability of the club to attract the top players in the world".

    "I have never had anything but complete respect for MUFC. How could I not have done given its fantastic history and especially the last six years in which I have been lucky to play a part? For me its all about winning trophies - as the club has always done under Sir Alex. Because of that I think the questions I was asking were justified".

    The England star insisted that he would always 'owe' something to Ferguson. "Despite recent difficulties, I know I will always owe Sir Alex Ferguson a huge debt. He is a great manager and mentor who has helped and supported me from the day he signed me from Everton when I was only 18", he said. "For Manchester United's sake I wish he could go on forever because he's a one off and a genius".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theo_14 View Post
    Fergie's not a clown (despite the red nose) and he knows after letting Ronaldo go he wouldn't be blamed too much for that due to the ridiculous feed Real paid and they couldn't really turn it down. He can be partly blamed for letting Tevez go and despite United fans booing him when he went back there, he's been in **** hot from with something like 23 goals in his last 28 games.

    If he then let Rooney go, their fans would kick up a stink so he's let them know who is behind it all and who to vent at.
    United fans would never turn on SAF, if anyone - they will target Glazers and have begun too.

    Now with Rooney confirming it is because of the squad, the Glazers are now even more untenable with the fans. No fan believes SAF does not want to build a good side, so it must be the lack of money.

    Very disappointed in Rooney. Its been one season (in which we finished 2nd!). I think Alan Green or Hansen said it but if the squad isn't good...Rooney owes it to the team to stay and make it better. Its not like we have gone on some long trophy drought and it looks impossible in the future. What does he expect? Some sort of sugar daddy spending like City/Chelsea? Really insecure by him not to have faith in the team just cause our neighbours have a squad of 40.

    I think it may also just be a cover-up to go to a club that will pay him more. We won't know until he leaves and see if he accepts a contract of similar nature.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    United fans would never turn on SAF, if anyone - they will target Glazers and have begun too.

    Now with Rooney confirming it is because of the squad, the Glazers are now even more untenable with the fans. No fan believes SAF does not want to build a good side, so it must be the lack of money.

    Very disappointed in Rooney. Its been one season (in which we finished 2nd!). I think Alan Green or Hansen said it but if the squad isn't good...Rooney owes it to the team to stay and make it better. Its not like we have gone on some long trophy drought and it looks impossible in the future. What does he expect? Some sort of sugar daddy spending like City/Chelsea? Really insecure by him not to have faith in the team just cause our neighbours have a squad of 40.

    I think it may also just be a cover-up to go to a club that will pay him more.
    We won't know until he leaves and see if he accepts a contract of similar nature.
    Exactly, by blaming the squad and lack of signings I feel perhaps Rooney's taken the easy way out, it comes across as a convenient excuse to use.

    The facts are that we are currently in the rebuilding phase. Same thing happened around 2004/2005, we had a pretty successful team then it was broken up with the departure of the likes of Roy Keane and Van Nistelrooy. Fergie took a couple of years to rebuild (during which Chelsea dominated) and then he produced a team which won the league three times on the bounce and also won the Champions League.

    That successful team was again broken up with Ronaldo and Tevez leaving, and the next great team was to be centred around Rooney as the main man. But it takes a bit of time to build a team, you cannot win the league or Champions League every season (and it's not like we're not competitive in every tournament we're involved in anyway- we lost the league last season by 1 point!).

    I just don't buy the stories about having no money to spend, under the Glazers we've splashed out over £30m on Berbatov and over £15m each on Valencia, Carrick, Anderson, Nani and Hargreaves and around £10m each on Hernandez and Smalling (to name just some examples). I honestly can't see any reason apart from money as being Rooney's motive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy_07 View Post
    Exactly, by blaming the squad and lack of signings I feel perhaps Rooney's taken the easy way out, it comes across as a convenient excuse to use.

    The facts are that we are currently in the rebuilding phase. Same thing happened around 2004/2005, we had a successful team then it was broken up with the departure of the likes of Roy Keane. Fergie took a couple of years to rebuild (during which Chelsea dominated) and then he produced a team which won the league three times on the bounce and also won the Champions League.

    That successful team was again broken up with Ronaldo and Tevez leaving, and the next great team was to be centred around Rooney as the main man. But it takes a bit of time to build a team, you cannot win the league or Champions League every season (and it's not like we're not competitive in every tournament we're involved in anyway).

    I just don't buy the stories about having no money to spend, under the Glazers we've splashed out over £30m on Berbatov and over £15m each on Valencia, Carrick, Anderson, Nani and Hargreaves (to name just some examples). I honestly can't see any reason apart from money as being Rooney's motive.
    He is a brat, he is doing it for the money and nothing more than a PR move. He wisely said nothing against Fergie this time after being made to look dumb (where he admitted his injury on Sky). He knows the fans will never go against Sir Alex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    And he was right too. For any objective (keyword) football fan that saw Tevez that season he was horrible. He was given more than enough chances when Rooney got injured and could not cement his place in the team. Its great his form for City turned out but it did not turn out that 2nd season for United and unfortunately we could not splash another 30M on just a hunch.

    Furthermore, Tevez is a boy. He is very immature in how he behaves. With United fans, with SAF ("Oh I didn't feel loved" - are you a child?) and now at City he is acting out at Mancini. Once a month he issues a quote like "I don't love football, why am I here?"
    Am I the only one here that thinks Tevez has shown he is worth every penny of the 30M paid by Manchester City. Also Tevez wanted to stay at United so they could have got him for 25m or so had they really tried. My point is if you have 30m to spend on decent players like Berbatov then surely you have that much to spend on Tevez. Heck 18m on Anderson says a lot about your spending power.

    As for his quotes well he is Argentinean and a Latino so he will come up with stuff like that. If he scores and performs day in day out he can say anything he wants as long as it's not out of line.

    Another thing I'll mention is that had Tevez been giving the responsibility to guide this club post Ronaldo I think he would have done better than Rooney has. Or even post-Rooney, Tevez could have been the man because we all know the likes of Hernandez, Berba, Carrick, Fletcher really don't have the heart. Right now Nani is the only one that could be the man of the club but he just doesn't fall in the same bracket as Ronaldo, Rooney, or Tevez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimran72 View Post
    Am I the only one here that thinks Tevez has shown he is worth every penny of the 30M paid by Manchester City. Also Tevez wanted to stay at United so they could have got him for 25m or so had they really tried. My point is if you have 30m to spend on decent players like Berbatov then surely you have that much to spend on Tevez. Heck 18m on Anderson says a lot about your spending power.

    As for his quotes well he is Argentinean and a Latino so he will come up with stuff like that. If he scores and performs day in day out he can say anything he wants as long as it's not out of line.

    Another thing I'll mention is that had Tevez been giving the responsibility to guide this club post Ronaldo I think he would have done better than Rooney has. Or even post-Rooney, Tevez could have been the man because we all know the likes of Hernandez, Berba, Carrick, Fletcher really don't have the heart. Right now Nani is the only one that could be the man of the club but he just doesn't fall in the same bracket as Ronaldo, Rooney, or Tevez.
    Retrospectively Tevez has shown he is worth £30m, however when he was at Manchester United he just didn't have the same games to goal ratio IIRC (although that may in part be down to the fact that he wasn't a regular with the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney in the team and then with Berbatov arriving).

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    I wonder what shirt number he'll wear at Everton. I think #9 is available. Unless they do retired numbers in the Premier League like in US sports.


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    Am I the only one here that thinks Tevez has shown he is worth every penny of the 30M paid by Manchester City. Also Tevez wanted to stay at United so they could have got him for 25m or so had they really tried. My point is if you have 30m to spend on decent players like Berbatov then surely you have that much to spend on Tevez. Heck 18m on Anderson says a lot about your spending power.
    Yeah he is doing that for City. But he didn't justify why we should spend that on him while he was here. Footballers can improve but unfortunately in our time he did not look like a 30M player. Berba didn't look it either but circumstances were different as we had to buy him from someone else.

    As for his quotes well he is Argentinean and a Latino so he will come up with stuff like that. If he scores and performs day in day out he can say anything he wants as long as it's not out of line.
    It doesn't matter how good he is, doesn't mean he can say or do whatever he wants.

    Another thing I'll mention is that had Tevez been giving the responsibility to guide this club post Ronaldo I think he would have done better than Rooney has. Or even post-Rooney, Tevez could have been the man because we all know the likes of Hernandez, Berba, Carrick, Fletcher really don't have the heart. Right now Nani is the only one that could be the man of the club but he just doesn't fall in the same bracket as Ronaldo, Rooney, or Tevez.
    This is where you lose it a bit. Tevez is doing great with City but with us he showed nothing that he could lead this club. Rooney was injured for 2 months, Tevez got a good run and couldn't score against even the most mediocre of oppositions. He only scored 5 PL goals that season. And not like we lacked service - we won the PL that season.

    However, the biggest misstatement of your whole post is when you say "Fletcher really don't have heart." Fletcher doesn't have the skill of a continental player, but heart? He has that in abundance and that is what has lead to a rise in his game.


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    Who'd have thought today would be as extraordinary as yesterday???

    Clever statement from Paul Stretford...er, I mean Rooney!

    The gist - The Ferguson block is a top guy, its the Glaziers who are responsible for all this!'

    Attempts to get the fans that turned on him yesterday back on side, and he doesnt have to take a swipe at Ferguson!

    What a drama!!!


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    Whatever is happening and however good Rooney is, it does not matter. He has undermined the manager by stating that he is not injured and that maybe acceptable for the France national team but never under Sir Alex Ferguson's iron fist.

    Nobody is bigger then the club (cliched but true) except Alex Ferguson. Man Utd was always a big club prior to his arrival in 86 but he has taken them single handedly to another level.

    Rooney's comments today is merely a premeditated speech written by his agent. He praises Alex Ferguson and seems to be playing mind games. You do not play mind games with a master like Sir Alex and he will get annihalated.

    Lots of talk in the media about how Sir Alex does not hold all the cards for once etc etc. Man Utd may have had an average start of the season and we may not have the mega world class players of old but they will come again, via grooming or purchasing.

    Rooney is the one who is under fire and not Man Utd or Sir Alex. How can rooney claim today that he wants to leave because he has been given no assurances about Man Utd signing world class players. Rooney should only open his gob if he is in form and not playing at a level below Emile Heskey.

    Ultimately if he leaves, I will not care. He is not Man Utd.

    In the past I was upset when Cantona, Keane, possibly Beckham and Stam left but I do not care about Rooney however good he is or thinks he is.

    Man Utd spirits will go down one day but not because of that pikey!
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    who could question the transfer fee of Tevez? He has an incredible scoring record for Man City and is at the heart of one of the best teams in England, involved in everything. he is arguably the best player in the league at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippy View Post
    who could question the transfer fee of Tevez? He has an incredible scoring record for Man City and is at the heart of one of the best teams in England, involved in everything. he is arguably the best player in the league at the moment.
    No one is questioning that. People are questioning why United should have paid 25M (plus 10M already paid) for someone who hadn't performed like a 25M player for United.


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    Fergie has managed to let other big names go and re-build some very good sides, But can he do it again as finances are really limited for him now? Top players cost big bucks now as well!

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    Wayne Rooney when you win three Prem titles one CL an FA cup and two league cup at another club we will believe you are leaving to win things.One great season and thinks he is Pele.


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    It was inevitable that something like this might happen. I can only say it serves the people who defended those Glazer vermin right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    How come? Oxy or someone on this thread said it correctly, if you are going to lap up the media when all is good (They got paid 5 million for their wedding!), then you have to take good with the bad. Your in the limelight cause of oyur football so when you don't perform to standards (IE World Cup) you deserve some criticism!
    I know its silly BUT these players are hypocrites

    I do think it is about the money though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amir View Post
    United fans would never turn on SAF, if anyone - they will target Glazers and have begun too.

    Now with Rooney confirming it is because of the squad, the Glazers are now even more untenable with the fans. No fan believes SAF does not want to build a good side, so it must be the lack of money.

    Very disappointed in Rooney. Its been one season (in which we finished 2nd!). I think Alan Green or Hansen said it but if the squad isn't good...Rooney owes it to the team to stay and make it better. Its not like we have gone on some long trophy drought and it looks impossible in the future. What does he expect? Some sort of sugar daddy spending like City/Chelsea? Really insecure by him not to have faith in the team just cause our neighbours have a squad of 40.

    I think it may also just be a cover-up to go to a club that will pay him more. We won't know until he leaves and see if he accepts a contract of similar nature.
    That is not true - they were turning against him during the Chelsea winning period, quite a large number of them too - I remember commenting at the time how ridiculous they were being BUT Fergie obviously turned things round and they soon "accepted" him again

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    Anyone thinking UTD are over and done with I will bump this thread feb/march time.We are lacking an attacking midfielder and if not defensive injuries and errors we would be a point behind chelsea.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed View Post
    That is not true - they were turning against him during the Chelsea winning period, quite a large number of them too - I remember commenting at the time how ridiculous they were being BUT Fergie obviously turned things round and they soon "accepted" him again
    No one would turn on him now. Has overcome all challenges, been here for so long. Proved fans wrong million of times, and seeing the reaction of United fans thus far...no one is buying Rooney's reason. From what I read, United fans think its greed on Rooney's part (which is surprising, I expected a bunch of Glazer slurs)


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed-sohail View Post
    Wayne Rooney when you win three Prem titles one CL an FA cup and two league cup at another club we will believe you are leaving to win things.One great season and thinks he is Pele.
    Lol. Correction. One great season and you think he's Pele.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Word is that his wife wanted to move to Spain or Italy.
    no she doesnt.. shes got a 12 year old ill sister so a move abroad is really hard to see..


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    its every players dream to play at MU, to say your leaving utd to win more trophies shows you have an IQ of less then 5, absolute hillarious decision by Rooney that may haunt him for the rest of his life and turn him into an Owen.

    this to me seems like either its a ploy by rooney to make fergie sign more top players or to attract more attention and tell his team and manager that hes the greatest and there nothing without me, and he will probably end up staying here. This is what happens when you suddenly have one great season and get a big fantasies of yourself being the best,
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    actually suhaib I think it shows he is more intelligent then he looks.. Man United are in serious debt and made a record loss due to interest payments on that debt and unless glazers go they will be in a deeper hole.. They only way glazers will leave is if theres no CL for 2-3 seasons and I doubt Rooney has the stomach to wait that long


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    Rooney's reasons are actually pretty sharp and reasonable. I just hope he continues to succeed at his next club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimran72 View Post
    Am I the only one here that thinks Tevez has shown he is worth every penny of the 30M paid by Manchester City. Also Tevez wanted to stay at United so they could have got him for 25m or so had they really tried. My point is if you have 30m to spend on decent players like Berbatov then surely you have that much to spend on Tevez. Heck 18m on Anderson says a lot about your spending power.

    As for his quotes well he is Argentinean and a Latino so he will come up with stuff like that. If he scores and performs day in day out he can say anything he wants as long as it's not out of line.

    Another thing I'll mention is that had Tevez been giving the responsibility to guide this club post Ronaldo I think he would have done better than Rooney has. Or even post-Rooney, Tevez could have been the man because we all know the likes of Hernandez, Berba, Carrick, Fletcher really don't have the heart. Right now Nani is the only one that could be the man of the club but he just doesn't fall in the same bracket as Ronaldo, Rooney, or Tevez.

    At the time Utd didnt lose out and like Rooney he was all about the money...

    The season Berbatov came Tevez was awful...and even then he was offered a contract, a contract which he turned down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaykh1985 View Post
    At the time Utd didnt lose out and like Rooney he was all about the money...

    The season Berbatov came Tevez was awful...and even then he was offered a contract, a contract which he turned down...
    How was Tevez all about money? Someone else owned him and from my understanding he was actually keen on playing for Manchester United.

    Again he could not have been offered a contract unless a bid for him was accepted.

    Yes he was not great but he was played out of position and benched a lot.
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    Interesting comments from SAF in the post-match interview tonight. He was asked if he had read Rooney's statement, his response- "I haven't read Wayne Rooney's statement, but we'll have a view on it tomorrow and probably put it to bed tomorrow". He was then asked if there was a chance of Rooney still staying, he responded the same as yesterday, saying the door is still open.

    He was then told that Rooney said in the statement that he hadn't received the assurances he wanted regarding the club's ambition. Fergie's response? "He wants assurances? Have I won 30 trophies or what?" And with that comment, followed by a wry smile and a chuckle Fergie walked off .

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    From manutd.com:
    Sir Alex was in rousing mood on Wednesday night as he collects his thoughts following one of the more dramatic, and disappointing, weeks in his time as United boss. Here's the transcript of his post-match press conference...

    "To maintain the success at any football club is not a certainty, i.e. I always believe a four-year cycle is probably the most you can achieve in terms of success. Very few teams can create more than that four-year cycle. Last season we almost did it, we were one point short of winning the league for a record fourth time.

    "We realised that to maintain that high consistency of being there challenging we had to inject youth into the club and we’ve been doing it for the last three or four years. We realised some years ago that Giggs, Scholes and Neville were never going to last forever and our policy is therefore to develop players within the club. We had a player that once said to me Rooney and Ronaldo weren’t good enough. Can you believe that? He actually said they weren’t good enough and he wasn’t prepared to wait until they were. That’s what happens, that’s the problem with potential – people don’t identify potential, they’re very poor at it. I’ve identified it all my life within young people – I know potential, I know how it can be developed and I know how to have faith in it - young people surprise you when you give them an opportunity. And that’s what this club is about. So when you see Manchester United at the moment with all these young players, you can’t see Manchester United three years ahead because you’re not thinking about that.

    "We will invest in players when the time is ready. This summer wasn’t the right time as far as I was concerned; there was no value for me. There was one player who we would have liked to have got but he chose another club. I don’t think he ever wanted to come to England anyway. Some players don’t want to leave their country, it’s a fact of life, some players are happy in their own country. Some players are happy to leave and Manchester United is always a big attraction for any player. If they don’t want to leave their country then we forget about it.

    "In terms of the future of Manchester United there are a lot of things in my favour – history, the respect we have from people – if I told you how many agents phone my secretary every week about players who would love to play for us - and I don’t just mean run of the mill players, I’m talking about players at almost every club in the world - it would amaze you. It’s because this club still has that fantastic romance and respect from everyone.

    "Sometimes you look in a field and you see a cow and you think it’s a better cow than the one you’ve got in your own field. It’s a fact. But it never really works out that way. It’s probably the same cow which is only as good as your own cow. We have to deal with that – some players like to think that it’s a better world somewhere else, it never really works like that.

    "As I said, three Premier League titles in a row is fantastic and we were within one point of a record fourth. It didn’t happen for us and we didn’t like that and we want to do something about it. We’ll be okay – I’ve got every confidence in that. We have a structure at the club which is good, we have the right staff, the right manager, the right chief executive, he’s a brilliant man. There’s nothing wrong with Manchester United, not a thing wrong with it. So we’ll carry on."


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    Respect has gone up for Sir Alex after this week. Nice to see some rare displays of emotion in the media from the big man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy_07 View Post
    Retrospectively Tevez has shown he is worth £30m, however when he was at Manchester United he just didn't have the same games to goal ratio IIRC (although that may in part be down to the fact that he wasn't a regular with the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney in the team and then with Berbatov arriving).
    The issue with Tevez wasn't the money.

    The issue was that he was a prime donna who wanted a lot of TLC and wanted regular first-team football that season.

    Fergie rightly couldn't promise him first-team football every week last season.

    From what I remember, we had indeed offered the GBP 24 M or whatever was needed for the buy-out - a bit late, and after much dithering, but we had offered it. By that time, Tevez mind was made-up, primarily because he felt he wasn't respected enough at Man Utd and deserved to be #1.




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    Quote Originally Posted by shaykh1985 View Post
    The season Berbatov came Tevez was awful...and even then he was offered a contract, a contract which he turned down...
    Exactly!

    The issue with Tevez wasn't money - it was TLC.

    With Rooney, the issue is precisely money!




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