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    Man of the Match Awards and ..... Afridi.

    A few keyboard-cricket-experts on PP bash Afridi for not being either a bowler or a batsman.... and not contributing to the Pakistan wins as much as other players do........ well, I got a little shock for them. Are you guys ready?

    Man of the Series awards in T20 Matches:
    Only player to get T20 Man of the Series Award more than once!
    Code:
    Player		Matches	MOS
    Shahid Afridi	42	 2
    AC Botha	        14	 1	 
    AR Cusack	16	 1
    JD Ryder	        17	 1
    BAW Mendis	19	 1
    SK Raina	        19	 1
    J Botha		26	 1
    DL Vettori	28	 1
    KC Sangakkara	29	 1
    KP Pietersen	30	 1
    TM Dilshan	32	 1
    Shoaib Malik	32	 1

    Man of the match awards in T20 Matches:
    (Qual: 20 or more T20 matches).

    Code:
    No.	Player	       T20s 	MOM	% MOM T20s
    1	ST Jayasuriya	30	6	20.00%
    2	CH Gayle	        20	4	20.00%
    3	Shahid Afridi	42	6	14.29%
    4	Umar Akmal	21	3	14.29%
    5	KP Pietersen	30	4	13.33%
    6	Yuvraj Singh	23	3	13.04%
    7	NL McCullum	25	3	12.00%
    8	DA Warner	25	3	12.00%
    9	MEK Hussey	27	3	11.11%
    10	DL Vettori	28	3	10.71%
    11	RG Sharma	20	2	10.00%
    12	Jayawardene	32	3	 9.38%
    13	AB de Villiers	33	3	 9.09%
    14	SR Watson	22	2	 9.09%
    15	Umar Gul	        34	3	 8.82%
    16	Salman Butt	24	2	 8.33%
    17	Younis Khan	25	2	 8.00%
    18	CL White	        25	2	 8.00%
    19	Abdul Razzaq	26	2	 7.69%
    20	BB McCullum	40	3	 7.50%
    21	KC Sangakkara	29	2	 6.90%
    22	JP Duminy	30	2	 6.67%
    23	Misbah-ul-Haq 	31	2	 6.45%
    24	JA Morkel	31	2	 6.45%
    25	GC Smith	        31	2	 6.45%
    26	TM Dilshan	32	2	 6.25%
    27	PD Collingwood	35	2	 5.71%
    28	Kamran Akmal	38	2	 5.26%
    29	AD Mathews	21	1	 4.76%
    30	DJ Bravo	        22	1	 4.55%
    31	G Gambhir	23	1	 4.35%
    32	J Botha	        26	1	 3.85%
    33	MG Johnson	26	1	 3.85%
    34	DJ Hussey	28	1	 3.57%
    35	SCJ Broad	29	1	 3.45%
    36	LJ Wright	29	1	 3.45%
    37	SB Styris	31	1	 3.23%
    38	Shoaib Malik	32	1	 3.13%
    39	MJ Clarke	34	1	 2.94%

    Man of the match awards for Pakistani ODI Players:
    (Qual: 200 or more ODIs).

    Code:
    No.	Player		Mat	MOM    %MoM ODIs 
     1	Saeed Anwar	247	28     11.34%
     2	Javed Miandad	233	18	7.73%
     3	Abdul Razzaq	246	18	7.32%
     4	Shahid Afridi	303	22	7.26% 
     5	Younis Khan	209	14	6.70%
     6	Waqar Younis	262	17	6.49%
     7	Mohammad Yousuf	281	18	6.41%
     8	Inzamam-ul-Haq 	375	24	6.40%
     9	Wasim Akram	356	22	6.18%
    10	Ijaz Ahmed	250	14	5.60%
    11	Saleem Malik	283	13	4.59%
    12	Moin Khan	219	 3 	1.37%

    Wanna see how he compares with the world?

    All Players with 200 or more ODIs.
    (Qual: 200 or more ODIs).

    Code:
    No	Player	        Mat	MOM	% MoM ODI
    1	SR Tendulkar	444	61     13.74%
    2	Saeed Anwar	247	28     11.34%
    3	NJ Astle	        223	25     11.21%
    4	ST Jayasuriya	444	48     10.81%
    5	DL Haynes	238	25     10.50%
    6	JH Kallis	307	32     10.42%
    7	BC Lara	        299	30     10.03%
    8	SC Ganguly	311	31	9.97%
    9	AC Gilchrist	287	28	9.76%
    10	PA de Silva	308	30	9.74%
    11	CH Gayle	        220	21	9.55%
    12	V Sehwag	        228	21	9.21%
    13	A Ranatunga	269	24	8.92%
    14	HH Gibbs	        248	22	8.87%
    15	ME Waugh	        244	21	8.61%
    16	RT Ponting	352	30	8.52%
    17	Yuvraj Singh	265	21	7.92%
    18	Javed Miandad	233	18	7.73%
    19	MS Atapattu	268	20	7.46%
    20	SM Pollock	303	22	7.26%
    21	Abdul Razzaq	250	18	7.20%
    22	Shahid Afridi	308	22	7.14%
    23	Younis Khan	209	14	6.70%
    24	CL Hooper	227	15	6.61%
    25	JN Rhodes	245	16	6.53%
    26	Waqar Younis	262	17	6.49%
    27	SR Waugh  	325	21	6.46%
    28	Inzamam-ul-Haq 	378	24	6.35%
    29	Mohammad Yousuf	288	18	6.25%
    30	AR Border	273	17	6.23%
    31	Wasim Akram	356	22	6.18%
    32	S Chanderpaul	261	16	6.13%
    33	SP Fleming	280	17	6.07%
    34	GD McGrath	250	15	6.00%
    35	KC Sangakkara	279	16	5.73%
    36	Ijaz Ahmed	250	14	5.60%
    37	GW Flower	221	12	5.43%
    38	M Azharuddin	334	18	5.39%
    39	MG Bevan	        232	12	5.17%
    40	A Flower	        213	11	5.16%
    41	Kapil Dev	225	11	4.89%
    42	DR Martyn	208	10	4.81%
    43	CL Cairns	215	10	4.65%
    44	Saleem Malik	283	13	4.59%
    45	Jayawardene	329	15	4.56%
    46	RB Richardson	224	10	4.46%
    47	R Dravid	        339	14	4.13%
    48	CZ Harris	250	10	4.00%
    49	M Muralitharan	339	13	3.83%
    50	DL Vettori	265	10	3.77%
    51	RS Mahanama	213	 8	3.76%
    52	WPUJC Vaas	322	11	3.42%
    53	CA Walsh	        205	 5	2.44%
    54	A Kumble	        271	 6	2.21%
    55	J Srinath	229	 5	2.18%
    56	Harbhajan Singh	217	 4	1.84%
    57	MV Boucher	292	 3	1.03%
    58	Moin Khan	219	 3	1.37%
    59	HP Tillakaratne  200	 2	1.00%
    Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?

    Warning to all the deniers:
    Before you guys start bashing me, accusing me of blind lover, start jumping up and down, start banging your head against the wall, foam start to flow from your mouth...... please... please .... keep in mind;
    1) Following are just stats from Cricinfo. I am just posting them without any opinion.

    2) .... and before you impose your opinion over the facts from Cricinfo, also keep in mind that Man of the Match are generally selected by a ex-cricketers, cricket journalists and other cricket experts.


    ... and oh Anwaar Bhai.... need a hanky to wipe off the tears?
    This post is dedicated to all the residents of Lala Land!


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    i always look forward to your posts w63, nice work, but i think you miss the reason why so many people are annoyed with afridi, well me at least. its not that he has not contributed, he was instrumental in t20 2009, its that had he used his brain a bit more, and made better use of his batting talents, imagine how much greater influence he could have had on pakistani results.

    conversely he has worked hard on his bowling, and become a far more potent bowler then his talent would suggest, he has leggies that dont spin much, a straigter one, and sometimes a quick one, yet his t20 and to some extent odi bowling feats are quite impressive.

    the list makes me miss saeed anwar tho
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    Move over S Rajesh, W63 is here!

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    What about test cricket, the real form of cricket W63?



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    This just illustrates his potential. Look at the names in that list above him and even underneath him. This guy had the chance to be one of the finest all-rounders to grace the sport, instead he's just another all-rounder in the large scheme of things.

    These stats demonstrate the effect Afridi can have on a game. When he gets going he will surely alter the match in favour of Pakistan. Sadly, he tends to get going here and there with a lot of mediocrity in between.
    Last edited by kingusama92; 26th January 2011 at 20:23.


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    I like the fine print.

    I seriously doubt anybody would suggest that Shahid has not done his part for Pakistan cricket.

    it should have been a LOT more though, his sheer ability deserved that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    What about test cricket, the real form of cricket W63?


    I absolutely don't have any comment!

    Raang main bhaang dalna iss ko kehtay hain!
    Last edited by W63L35; 26th January 2011 at 20:19.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sanakazmi View Post
    Move over S Rajesh, W63 is here!
    Who is S Rajesh?


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    Who is S Rajesh?
    Cricinfo's stats guy.

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    ^ Should've won one at Chennai but nobody wanted to be accused of blasphemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ View Post


    I like the fine print.

    I seriously doubt anybody would suggest that Shahid has not done his part for Pakistan cricket.

    it should have been a LOT more though, his sheer ability deserved that.
    Fully agreed!

    And once again good work W63. You should have a title next to your name 'PP's stats man'

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    Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

    Zimbabwe - 5
    Bangladesh - 2
    Holland - 1
    Kenya - 1
    West Indies - 1
    New Zealand -3

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 5
    India - 2

    South Africa - 1
    Australia - 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanakazmi View Post
    ^ Should've won one at Chennai but nobody wanted to be accused of blasphemy.
    I am willing to give them all MOM and MOS awards in return for just that one victory!


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post


    I absolutely don't have any comment!

    Raang main bhaang dalna iss ko kehtay hain!
    lol sorry to spoil the party W63.



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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

    Zimbabwe - 5
    Bangladesh - 2
    Holland - 1
    Kenya - 1
    West Indies - 1
    New Zealand -3

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 5
    India - 2

    South Africa - 1
    Australia - 1
    Lol, thats an interesting angle to look at, would love to see it compared with Tendu & Lara.

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    Great work W63, I always look forward to your statistical posts/threads

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    Quote Originally Posted by talha.raja View Post
    And once again good work W63. You should have a title next to your name 'PP's stats man'
    hmmm

    'PakPassion's S Rajesh'

    sounds good

    W63, manzoor hai?


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    Great work W63. It shows that Afridi has the ability to get it done but as some of the posters hve already noted above he could have had so many more MOM beside his name if he had leanred to show more judgement while playing.

    Another surprize for me in the list is YK, while he gets bashed for not being ODI player his ratio of 6.70 puts him over MoYo and Inzi....quite surprizing. Also, shows when he gets going he produces a match winner as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

    Zimbabwe - 5
    Bangladesh - 2
    Holland - 1
    Kenya - 1
    West Indies - 1
    New Zealand -3

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 5
    India - 2

    South Africa - 1
    Australia - 1
    Are you trying to say that 13 out of his 22 ODI awards have been against weaker opposition,, i.e. nearly 60% ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

    Zimbabwe - 5
    Bangladesh - 2
    Holland - 1
    Kenya - 1


    West Indies - 1
    New Zealand -3

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 5
    India - 2

    South Africa - 1
    Australia - 1
    Too bad nobody from our team got any MOM award in the game against Ireland!

    Plus... I'll let Anwaar reply to that... since he always brings up Malik's 10 wins against Zimbabwe and BD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    lol sorry to spoil the party W63.
    Yeh... Lala Land would have been up all night!

    You might as well lock the thread and go home!


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    Yeh... Lala Land would have been up all night!

    You might as well lock the thread and go home!
    Why are you not changing your venue to Lala Land?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ View Post
    W63, manzoor hai?
    3 baaar to nahi kehna paray ga? Aik dafa "3 baar" keh lia tha..... aab dobarah kehnay ka koi armaan nahi hai!!
    Last edited by W63L35; 26th January 2011 at 20:35.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NO 1 AFRIDI FAN View Post
    Why are you not changing your venue to Lala Land?

    http://www.answers.com/topic/la-la-land
    A state of mind characterized by unrealistic expectations or a lack of seriousness.


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    Tendulkar

    Against Pakistan: 7
    Against Australia: 12
    Against South Africa: 5
    Against NZ: 6
    Against Sri Lanka: 6
    Against England:2
    Zimbabwe:8
    West Indies :9

    So Tendulkar has 17 Man of the Match award against SA/Australia while Afridi has just 2 , clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is, raises his performance only against Bangladesh , Zimbabwe or once in while against Phaasht Indian bowlers.

    Quality of award matters , not just numbers .
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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    Okay then your choice

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    Younis Khan:

    Zimbabwe - 3
    Kenya - 1
    West Indies - 1

    India - 4
    Sri Lanka - 1

    South Africa - 2
    Australia - 1
    England - 1

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    I agree his contribution is huge but some of us do think he could've achieved more.

    Another thing that stands out for me is YK a so called ODI failure is right up there with legends of the game.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    W63, were these stats supposed to make Afridi look good?

    Cause these 'breakdowns' and Saj's remark about Test certainly paint another picture


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricnut View Post
    Tendulkar

    Against Pakistan: 7
    Against Australia: 12
    Against South Africa: 5
    Against NZ: 6
    Against Sri Lanka: 6
    Against England:2
    Zimbabwe:8
    West Indies :9

    So Tendulkar has 19 Man of the Match award against SA/Australia while Afridi has just 2 , clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is
    Not that I want to turn this thread into Sachin vs Afridi ... because ... but.. everybody has bashed minnows of their choice when they got a chance....specially the 2nd highest scorer in ODIs against minnows;
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    Also, Afridi has never been a MOM in 30 ODI tournament finals and 3 semi-finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Are you trying to say that 13 out of his 22 ODI awards have been against weaker opposition,, i.e. nearly 60% ?
    Just presenting a fuller picture for my fellow PPers

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    Quote Originally Posted by duostyle View Post
    W63, were these stats supposed to make Afridi look good?

    Cause these 'breakdowns' and Saj's remark about Test certainly paint another picture
    read post # 30 and ask the question about break down one more time.

    As far as test are concerned, he never played enought test matches to be rated... plus I do not consider him test match player.


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    Good work W63L35.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    Not that I want to turn this thread into Sachin vs Afridi ... because ... but.. everybody has bashed minnows of their choice when they got a chance....specially the 2nd highest scorer in ODIs against minnows;

    I dont know whats the need to show these stats since its known that most of Players including Tendulkar , Afridi , Lara have bashed the minnows in their careers.

    But these guys have put performances and won awards against stronger teams such as Australia and South Africa as well, so why is Afridi lagging so behind in there comparison?

    Just one MoM award against Australia for Afridi in 38 Odis that too was for bowling in UAE

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    Unfair to bring up Afridi's Test record. Dude's retired from the format and has played 1 Test in the last 5 years. Though I have to admit, after his initial promise (5fer vs Aus on debut, century vs India in Test #2) and even the renewed hopes in 05-06, it is extremely disappointing to see how his Test career turned out to amount to nothing eventually.
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    So afridites do you still consider YK an odi failure?


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    STATMAN (BATMAN THEME). In the words of the babbling Bumble " I'll start the car"

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    W63, another interesting breakdown of these stats would be to see how many of his MoTM awards were given for his performances in bowling vs. batting.
    Last edited by sanakazmi; 26th January 2011 at 20:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    read post # 30 and ask the question about break down one more time.
    That doesn't answer my question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricnut View Post
    clearly shows what a big minnow Basher Afridi is, raises his performance only against Bangladesh , Zimbabwe or once in while against Phaasht Indian bowlers.
    Quote Originally Posted by cricnut View Post
    I dont know whats the need to show these stats since its known that most of Players including Tendulkar , Afridi , Lara have bashed the minnows in their careers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post

    you are running away from the point once again , Tendulkar has 17 MOM award against Aus/SA along with minnow bashing, but Afridi looks just a silly minnow basher with 9 MOM awards against Zimbabwe/Bangladesh/Holland/Kenya and no significant contribution against top teams
    Last edited by cricnut; 26th January 2011 at 21:02.

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    interesting stats Not trying to jump on the Afridi bashing band wagon but the stats dont paint the full picture. Those MOM performances were probably the ONLY time Afridi contributed significantly towards the team's victory. You don't often see Afridi scoring good 30s and 40s on a consistent basis. Its either a quick fire 50 or a golden duck so to speak.
    His bowling has been quite handy though. I'll give him that much.
    Would be interesting to see the #MOM awards he won on his bowling alone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanakazmi View Post
    W63, another interesting breakdown of these stats would be to see how many of his MoTM awards were given for his performances in bowling vs. batting.
    yes.. it would be intersting but Cricinfo does not provide the query by individual MotM.

    I bet most of his awards came from contributing with bat and ball.


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    Just checked Javed Miandad stats. Javed has won 3 MOM awards in 12 finals.

    His average in 12 finals is 55.33.

    72.33 in finals won.

    46.83 in finals lost.

    Impressive stats, that I actually wasn't aware of.

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    To be fair to afridi he was man of finals in our second biggest odi tournament win In 90s VB series 97 in Aus.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Afridi has 3 Mom Award for his bowling performance , 1 each against Kenya , England in Odi series at Lahore and Australia in Uae
    Last edited by cricnut; 26th January 2011 at 21:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricnut View Post
    you are running away from the point once again , Tendulkar has 17 MOM award against Aus/SA along with minnow bashing, but Afridi looks just a silly minnow basher with 9 MOM awards against Zimbabwe/Bangladesh/Holland/Kenya and no significant contribution against top teams
    Look at the OP's last statsguru screenshot. Tendulkar is at #1 with almost double the percentage of ODI MoTM awards won by Afridi, who is at #22. Don't think the OP was suggesting he's better than Tendulkar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricnut View Post
    Afridi has 3 Mom Award for his bowling performance , 1 each against Kenya , England in Last Odi series and Australia in Uae
    1st was in Champions Trophy 2004 I believe.


    Proud Shehri of Misbah Ka Pakistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ View Post
    1st was in Champions Trophy 2004 I believe.

    Yes at Birmingham in 2004 , Kenya were bowled out for 94

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    Good Posts by W63 but miandadrules post was even better.

    Loved it.


    Grandpa Zindabad!

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    He took a 5fer in an odi against Eng at home in 2000s series.Must have won MOM for that.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Post of the century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insaftak View Post
    Good Posts by W63 but miandadrules post was even better.

    Loved it.
    How about mine highlighting how a so called ODI failure has won MOM award more often then some of our legends.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    W63L35 you are PP's Statsman ... Brilliant


    Pakistan Zindabad

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanakazmi View Post
    Look at the OP's last statsguru screenshot. Tendulkar is at #1 with almost double the percentage of ODI MoTM awards won by Afridi, who is at #22. Don't think the OP was suggesting he's better than Tendulkar.
    Thanks SK!

    They conveniently ignored this comment in OP... or they just need to see an eye doctor!
    "Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?"

    But they had to pick the players above him...... .


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    Dont understand what exactly is the reason for this thread. No one in his right mind would leave Afridi out of T20 team. His 15ball 25 cameo is really usefull in T20 games. We all know that.

    This thread also proves that Afridi is a minnow basher when it comes to ODI (I am not including test here as anyway he has not played test cricket much). His record against minnows is as good as any top allrounders, both batting and bowling. But against top teams, as bad as any tail ender or 6th bowler in the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    Thanks SK!

    They conveniently ignored this comment in OP... or they just need to see an eye doctor!
    "Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?"

    But they had to pick the players above him...... .
    Btw, do you maintain your own database or do use StatsGuru exclusively? Might've asked you this in an earlier thread, but if you know of any databases that keep more info or even the same but at least let you run your own SQL queries, do share them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    A few keyboard-cricket-experts on PP bash Afridi for not being either a bowler or a batsman.... and not contributing to the Pakistan wins as much as other players do........ well, I got a little shock for them. Are you guys ready?

    Man of the Series awards in T20 Matches:
    Only player to get T20 Man of the Series Award more than once!



    Man of the match awards in T20 Matches:
    (Qual: 20 or more T20 matches).




    Man of the match awards for Pakistani ODI Players:
    (Qual: 200 or more ODIs).




    Wanna see how he compares with the world?

    All Players with 200 or more ODIs.
    (Qual: 200 or more ODIs).



    Anybody noticed the names below Afridi in all 3 lists?



    This post is dedicated to all the residents of Lala Land!

    change criteria for least odi matches to 190 and see who comes on top

    shoaib malik 192 matches 15 match awards

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    Abdul Razzaq:

    Australia - 2
    South Africa - 2

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 3
    India - 1

    West Indies - 3
    New Zealand - 3
    Kenya - 1
    Zimbabwe - 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Abdul Razzaq:

    Australia - 2
    South Africa - 2

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 3
    India - 1

    West Indies - 3
    New Zealand - 3
    Kenya - 1
    Zimbabwe - 2

    def more reliable and better matchwinner than great lala.

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    I actually like the thread, shows where the players and legends stand in terms of match winning abilities (Younus was a surprise). Just doesn't help Afridi's case much when we see the details


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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Just a breakdown of his 22 ODI mom awards:

    Zimbabwe - 5
    Bangladesh - 2
    Holland - 1
    Kenya - 1
    West Indies - 1
    New Zealand -3
    Impressive.. Very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed-sohail View Post
    How about mine highlighting how a so called ODI failure has won MOM award more often then some of our legends.
    W63 and mindadrules can't even come close to your post. Younis Khan is one of the most underrated ODI Player.


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    lol, great post W63
    is a true match winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post


    I absolutely don't have any comment!

    Raang main bhaang dalna iss ko kehtay hain!
    But you did have a comment!


    totay totay ker dian gaaa!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanakazmi View Post
    Btw, do you maintain your own database or do use StatsGuru exclusively? Might've asked you this in an earlier thread, but if you know of any databases that keep more info or even the same but at least let you run your own SQL queries, do share them.
    I use Statsguru from Cricinfo exclusively and then put the lists in a to massage the data. I would love to but don't have my own database!


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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Abdul Razzaq:

    Australia - 2
    South Africa - 2

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 3
    India - 1

    West Indies - 3
    New Zealand - 3
    Kenya - 1
    Zimbabwe - 2
    another reason why Abdul Razzaq is way better than shahid Khan Afridi.


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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Abdul Razzaq:

    Australia - 2
    South Africa - 2

    England - 1

    Sri Lanka - 3
    India - 1

    West Indies - 3
    New Zealand - 3
    Kenya - 1
    Zimbabwe - 2
    this thread is not to have a debate over abdul and afridi, all afridites, almost all admire the ability of Abdul Razzaq, so no point being daal main kaala.

    and + has anyone notice how good abdul has become since he has started using boom boom bat



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    Thanks Insaftak.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed-sohail View Post
    Thanks Insaftak.
    aap ko apni tareefein sunein ka bahut shauk hai


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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Just checked Javed Miandad stats. Javed has won 3 MOM awards in 12 finals.

    His average in 12 finals is 55.33.

    72.33 in finals won.

    46.83 in finals lost.

    Impressive stats, that I actually wasn't aware of.
    Miandad was a real champ. Any captain would like to have a player like him in his team. Real fighter. He gets so much respect whenever he comes to India. Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teesra View Post
    change criteria for least odi matches to 190 and see who comes on top

    shoaib malik 192 matches 15 match awards
    Yeah, I'm interested in seeing what things would look like if you change the criteria to 150 matches.

    Btw, even if you bring your criteria down to a 100 ODIs, Misbah doesn't qualify. I thought this was an interesting stat: Darren Sammy, Peter Borren (Netherlands) & Will Porterfield (Ireland) are the only WC captains who have played fewer ODI innings than Misbah. (Sammy 32, Borren 33, Porterfield 44).

    [Didn't mean to turn this into another Misbah/Afridi comparison, just wanted to point out that that's why you don't see Misbah's name feature on this list, and not because he hasn't won any MoTM awards.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by md_tariq View Post
    def more reliable and better matchwinner than great lala.
    And not a minnowbasher either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iHammad View Post
    lol, great post W63
    is a true match winner
    Are you being Sarcastic? Or did you not read Miandadrules's breakdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketfan2010 View Post
    Miandad was a real champ. Any captain would like to have a player like him in his team. Real fighter. He gets so much respect whenever he comes to India. Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.
    How old were you when 1996 WC Q-Final was played in Bangalore and Miandad was fielding at the boundry?

    ..and you must also not know how Indians took his son's wedding to that guy in Dubai!

    Quote Originally Posted by cricketfan2010 View Post
    Unlike Afridi..He doesn't get any respect in any of the other countries. People just laugh at him.
    Show me one laughing ..... or even smiling face among these 50/60 thousand fans!


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    I use Statsguru from Cricinfo exclusively and then put the lists in a to massage the data. I would love to but don't have my own database!
    I may not agree with you on some of your Threads. But one thing I should appreciate is, no one in PP could massage the data like you. You are a real Stats guru in PP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    How old were you when 1996 WC Q-Final was played in Bangalore and Miandad was fielding at the boundry?

    Miandad with the "King of Mumbai"

    http://im.rediff.com/news/2004/jul/30look.jpg

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    so performing against 'minnows' is bad? no wonder we lost 2007 world cup, poor Bob woolmer, his team were full of players who were too good to perform against 'less talented sides'


    "Though Afridi couldn't win the world cup, for 30 days he turned his country into a nation"

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    Stats se yaad aaya where have jeerablade and taaveez disappeared?They were good with stats.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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