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    Quote Originally Posted by poisonjet View Post
    Basit Ali should not have said that all ... look at this kids age , education , background ... and then consider what a statement like this can do to him .

    Basit Ali has just pressurized Junaid . I fear that in order to look legal he will change his action which can cut his capabilities as no genuine fast bowler can adjust with new action in days .
    or Junaid can just shrug and say "Basit who?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    or Junaid can just shrug and say "Basit who?"

    he doesnt seem to be this bold .

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    why are so many people having a go at Basit Ali?

    Junaid's action does look dodgy!

    let's just hope it's nothing, as we all haven't seen enough of him, and probably won't get to before the WC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Inswinger View Post
    Are we naive enough to believe that the ICC is going to be honing in on Junaid's action because of what has been said?
    pakpassion is very very influential

    everybody knows about this site...

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    we will get to the bottom of this issue, Inshallah

    Saj bhai to the rescue!


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    Why does he need to say this? Can't help the guy's confidence.

    If his action is touch and go (which it seems to be), it is the umpires' job to bring that forward.

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    Vids r not cleared but it looks like RP singh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah22 View Post



    If his arm in the above pic is bend then I need to see a doctor...

    yes but a fraction second ago it was, pls see that doctor
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    LOL at those having a go at Basit. Would you rather find out about it now or in front of a million cameras when umpires ask him to stop bowling? If his action isn't clean (it does "look" dodgy), then - sorry to break it to you - he'll be reported and asked not to bowl. Basit or Taufel - the result will be the same.

    I really hope Waqar takes notice and get a chance to work on the kid.

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    Let us say that:

    1. Junaid gets a ban for illegal action

    2. And Shoaib is unfit

    Who are going to be their possible replacements?

    I hope it does not happen, but still team managements should be ready to face any type of challenges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alam_dar View Post
    Let us say that:

    1. Junaid gets a ban for illegal action

    2. And Shoaib is unfit

    Who are going to be their possible replacements?

    I hope it does not happen, but still team managements should be ready to face any type of challenges.
    They should definitely draft in Shahzaib.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alam_dar View Post
    Let us say that:

    1. Junaid gets a ban for illegal action
    does he really get a ban if reported? my understanding is NO, but I may be wrong too. can someone please confirm?

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    You can bend it as long as when you are releasing it, is straight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eyes View Post
    You can bend it as long as when you are releasing it, is straight.
    that's wrong, that is called straightening. you can bend a little, but need to keep it in the same position when releasing. i.e. keep the elbow angle constant for about a semi circle, i suppose that the rule says.

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    if junaid is a chucker our ageing speedstar legend is one of the biggest

    he has hyperextension but to alot of you guys that is ruled out when it comes to junaid khan

    more examples from other players who are household names
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    His action is clean, even is they is a kink (and I dontt hink there is) it is way less than the 17 degrees of whatever the allowance is. Basit Ali should be ashamed of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alam_dar View Post
    Let us say that:

    1. Junaid gets a ban for illegal action

    2. And Shoaib is unfit

    Who are going to be their possible replacements?

    I hope it does not happen, but still team managements should be ready to face any type of challenges.
    Mohammad Sami will come back for the 1000th time then.

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    So, anyone who watched him live...what do you think; are there any issues with his action?


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    He should learn from Harbajahan - wear a long sleeve.

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    I hate it when some seniors n gud ex cricketers talks stupid things like this?

    what does this even meant? Y tell ICC of something they don even know/ this is ridiculous stuff from ex players. not good stuff at all and i wish n hope JUNAID gets to play the WC without any problems.


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    Bump

    What a muppet.
    Rameez asked the GREAT Michael Holding (an expert on Fast bowling as opposed to this loony tune) do you see any problems with his run up/action.

    Holding was full of praise for him citing a nice relazed approach to the crease, good action and was impressed by his front foot pointing straight when landed.

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    Why would Basit say thing in the first place ?? Support the Pakistan bowlers, if they can do that then dont bother adding your two pence to the media...

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    Junaid’s action is suspect, says Basit

    KARACHI: Former Pakistan batsman Basit Ali believes that the national team`s young pace bowler, Junaid Khan will soon land into trouble over his bowling action.

    “There is a problem with his bowling action and there is a visible jerk when he bowls. The selectors should have seen this before picking him in the side,” Basit said on Friday.

    Basit, who played 19 Tests and 50 One-day Internationals, said that Junaid`s bowling action would soon be reported by match officials in the ongoing series in the West Indies. —Agencies
    http://www.dawn.com/2011/04/23/junai...ays-basit.html


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    I have the same feeling about his action. Remember, players like Shoaib Akhtar was also targeted for suspect action in the past. Let's hope Junaid Khan action gets cleared. His bowling is decent.

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    he looks average, that's my first impression...but he must be given 10 games to prove himself.

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    if they do report it, so be it, why does basit have to persist in trying to goad controversy?

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    If im not wrong, Da silva was telling Bishoo something about his arm as well in the match. Anyone else notice it??


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    truee

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    i'm really getting annoyed with this guy



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    A needless comment.


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    michael holding had nothing bad to say about it - who is a legend

    basit does on the other hand have problems - who is basit ali again and im being honest lol

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    Ive had enough of Basit, honestly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince_Pathan View Post
    michael holding had nothing bad to say about it - who is a legend

    basit does on the other hand have problems - who is basit ali again and im being honest lol
    Maybe Basit Ali knows more about bowling than the great fast bowler Michael holding. He was a batsman for Pakistan but didn't play many matches and he wasn't special enough to be remembered by cricket fans

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    Is there no limit to incompetance..


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    His action seemed fine.

    No one commented on it during the game. Not even Holding when he was assessing his bowling. We all know Holding is never afraid to speak his mind.


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    Nothing looks wrong with the action, but nothing much spectacular in his bowling either...


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    thanks lipton and sameer...was wondering...must have been unimpressive if i havent even heard of him...

    his opinion is hence...unimpressive and uneeded and a blatant attempt to get some limelight/stir up some controversy

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    Having seen him bowl I'd say he does straighten his arm but he actually does it earlier than he delivers the bowl , hence gets no bumb up in speed .... I am no expert of the Rule but i dont think he would be banned by the icc as the straighting is very less and it occurs before he delivers the bowl [ and he has an awesome wrist position ;) hits the seam straight on, could be the next asif ]


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    Whats wrong with his action?

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    Actually he had a kink his action few years ago, I think he was reported for that too in domestic cricket?

    thankfully, he has cleared it now so there is no problem.


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    LOL his action is fine, whilst on topic was watching WI V NZL and Kyle Mills looks like he is proper chucking it.


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    Basit is watching too many Chuck Norris Movies....


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    his action has def been refined since he first started. so must have cleared his "jerk"


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    I first thought the same when I saw him bowl a few times, but I thought it was just me. I guess not. He may be ok according to the 15 or 16 degree rule or whatever but his arm is not perfectly straight, that's for sure.


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    When ever, I repeat when ever a pakistani bowler bowls well either the question about his action or balltampering appeares.

    And when the indians or english are quite some of our own comes up with this.


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    Nothing wrong with his action at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khalil1986 View Post
    LOL his action is fine, whilst on topic was watching WI V NZL and Kyle Mills looks like he is proper chucking it.
    Yeah ive noticed that too !!

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    his action is quite angular and a bit awkward, and like others i too thought he had a bit of a kink when i saw him in domestic a few years ago but it does look clean now. good for him.

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    Bump!!

    One of the posters in other thread mentioned his action is illegal/suspect.
    I think it is fine and there is no elbow bend. Basit on a crack in his comment before WC2011.

    2 and half years later, we can safely say Basit was wrong. Even he will admit it himself.

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    Any clips of Juni bowling in half sleeves ? youtube please .

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    Statistics375 did a detail analysis of action of current left arm fast bowlers Junaid has the most straightish arm . This is the particular post

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...25&postcount=8

    and this is the thread

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=185913

    He might look bit awkward because of his use of wrist for getting late swing is more visible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amax View Post
    Statistics375 did a detail analysis of action of current left arm fast bowlers Junaid has the most straightish arm . This is the particular post

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...25&postcount=8

    and this is the thread

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=185913

    He might look bit awkward because of his use of wrist for getting late swing is more visible.
    Both the URLs don't work. Can you provide a link of that analysis please? would love to read it and show it to some anti-Pak posters doubting his action in the Vitori thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedzee View Post
    Both the URLs don't work. Can you provide a link of that analysis please? would love to read it and show it to some anti-Pak posters doubting his action in the Vitori thread.
    corrected the URLs
    post

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...25&postcount=8

    thread

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=185913

    thread title: special talent of Muhammad Amir
    Last edited by amax; 11th September 2013 at 17:20.

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    Generally a simple flick of the wrist when a bowler bowls can make it seem like a chuck.

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    Interesting addition to coaching staff !

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    Just wondering, has Junaid's action been sorted now?



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    He's never been reported previously so I guess the umpires never really saw anything amiss. Better get Ian Gould on the case.

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    Why does he bowl with full sleeves even in SL & U.A.E

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    PCB should assess Junaid's action before he plays next Int'l game.

    If there are any questions, it should be dealt asap. I am sure Waqar can fix any kinks in Junaid's bowling action if he suspects anything wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanny View Post
    Why does he bowl with full sleeves even in SL & U.A.E
    You wouldn't want to spend 2 days under the blazing sun.
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    There is nothing to sort out. Junaids action is clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mithun_minhas View Post
    PCB should assess Junaid's action before he plays next Int'l game.

    If there are any questions, it should be dealt asap. I am sure Waqar can fix any kinks in Junaid's bowling action if he suspects anything wrong.
    It depends on whether an umpire has previously reported him I would think. Is Basit Ali giving his opinion enough grounds to have a concern? If there is something wrong with his action why has it not been picked before now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    It depends on whether an umpire has previously reported him I would think. Is Basit Ali giving his opinion enough grounds to have a concern? If there is something wrong with his action why has it not been picked before now?
    Umpires seems to have become a lot stricter these days. It would be a huge blow if some umpire rports Junaid's action after the 1st match in WC. PCB has enough bowling legends working for them to watch Juniad's bowling action again and fix( if they feel anything is wrong).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanny View Post
    Why does he bowl with full sleeves even in SL & U.A.E
    Because you get selectively tanned on your arms.

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    It isn't the cleanest action tbh, he has a kinked elbow, how much it straightens though, not sure.

    Sent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    He's never been reported previously so I guess the umpires never really saw anything amiss. Better get Ian Gould on the case.
    bICC is waiting till 2 months before the WC to report him.
    the grand plan

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    3 and a half years! Why is ICC protecting him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Statsman View Post
    3 and a half years! Why is ICC protecting him?
    Have you seen him bowl??

    Maybe he does straighten a little but it is well within the limits. Otherwise he would have been reported with Ajmal.

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    I for one see nothing wrong with his action. See the links amax posted in post 145.

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    Not sure his loss would make a huge difference to the Pakistani set up if he was ever found guilty of chucking


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    no biggie tbh
    Junaid was the talk of 2013, thats pretty much it and his omission won't be as impacting as say Hafeez' or Ajmal's.
    Last edited by Haz95; 5th October 2014 at 12:14.

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    Junaid's action looks perfectly okay to me.

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    Junaid's action does look a little jerky, but i think it is in the limits, wont be surprised though if he gets reported

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    He wears long sleeves for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chacha kashmiri View Post
    Not sure his loss would make a huge difference to the Pakistani set up if he was ever found guilty of chucking
    Agree. Overrated bowler. You guys really need Amir back. Hes your only saving grace.
    Last edited by Neeraj; 5th October 2014 at 14:47.

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    Only noticed it now, his action seems very dubious.

    Won't be surprised in the slightest if he is reported during this series.


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    His action was always a bit dubious IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    His action was always a bit dubious IMO.
    Seems likely he will be reported now that they're policing it better now.


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    I just saw him bowling his first ball of the 45th over.

    And, goodness me! How can you get away with that in international cricket? You guys need to watch that ball!
    @Mamoon did you see that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    I just saw him bowling his first ball of the 45th over.

    And, goodness me! How can you get away with that in international cricket? You guys need to watch that ball!
    @Mamoon did you see that?
    I'm glad it's not just me that noticed this!

    It's really dodgy, I swear it wasn't like this before. Has his action deteriorated?


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