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    Top 10 singers from India and Pakistan

    1 Lata mangeshkar : Daylights above anyone
    2 Mohammad rafi : Greatest male singer
    3 Nusrat ali khan:King of sufi songs
    4 Kishore kumar : Most versetile singer of all time
    5 Mehendi hassan : King of Ghazal
    6 Kumar sanu : King of 90s
    7 Mukesh : one of the most melodious voice
    8 Asha Bhosle:First female pop singer of india
    9 Noor jahan : Greatest female singer of pakistan
    10 Sonu nigam : Best singer we have today.

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    My Top 10 Playback singers from Southern India

    1.K.J.Yesudass
    2.S.P.Balasubramaniam
    3.Ilaiyaraja
    4.P.B.Srinivas
    5.T.M.Soundararajan
    6.Malaysia Vausdevan (Late)
    7.Karthik (Currently the Topper)
    8.S.Chithra
    9.S.Janaki
    10.P.Suseela


    In Hindi Music Scene

    1.Mohammad Rafi
    2.Kishore Kumar
    3.Shaan
    4.Sonu Nigam
    5.Udit Narayan
    6.Roop Kumar Rathod
    7.KK
    8.Shreya Ghoshal
    9.Sunidhi Chauhan
    10.Jagjit Singh


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    My top ten Indian singers who have sung in Bollywood.

    1. Kishore Kumar
    2. Mohd. Rafi
    3. Yesudass
    4. Ghulam Ali
    5. SP Balasubramaniam
    6. Lata Mangeshkar
    7. Jagjit Singh
    8. Asha Bhonsle
    9. Roop Kumar Rathod/Ajit Wadekar
    10. Shubha Mudgal


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud View Post
    My top ten Indian singers who have sung in Bollywood.

    1. Kishore Kumar
    2. Mohd. Rafi
    3. Yesudass
    4. Ghulam Ali
    5. SP Balasubramaniam
    6. Lata Mangeshkar
    7. Jagjit Singh
    8. Asha Bhonsle
    9. Roop Kumar Rathod/Ajit Wadekar
    10. Shubha Mudgal
    lata mangeshkar at no6.are u kidding??

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    All those above her are great singers. It is difficult to rate one above the other. In terms of amount of work and quality of work, Lata would be number one, but, I always feel that she has an "unnaturally perfect" voice (no woman talks or sings like that naturally) hence I rate others higher.


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    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan,,,,, then the rest.


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    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan..

    and then the rest...


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    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
    And then the rest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by avidlearner View Post
    My Top 10 Playback singers from Southern India

    1.K.J.Yesudass
    2.S.P.Balasubramaniam
    3.Ilaiyaraja
    4.P.B.Srinivas
    5.T.M.Soundararajan
    6.Malaysia Vausdevan (Late)
    7.Karthik (Currently the Topper)
    8.S.Chithra
    9.S.Janaki
    10.P.Suseela


    In Hindi Music Scene

    1.Mohammad Rafi
    2.Kishore Kumar
    3.Shaan
    4.Sonu Nigam
    5.Udit Narayan
    6.Roop Kumar Rathod
    7.KK
    8.Shreya Ghoshal
    9.Sunidhi Chauhan
    10.Jagjit Singh
    How ca you foget Kumar Sanu


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    1. Nusrat Fateh Ali khan

    2. Daylight

    3. Evening

    4. Some more daylight

    5. M. Rafi

    6. Aziz Mian

    7. Attaullah

    8. Rahat Fateh Ali Khan

    9. Mukesh

    10. Reshma


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    Quote Originally Posted by haroonrasheed320 View Post
    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
    And then the rest.
    on what basis??

    Belive me he was noo match of Rafi or lataji.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    on what basis??

    Belive me he was noo match of Rafi or lataji.
    no match?? uff lameeee...


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    NFAK was a sufi singer and not a typical playback singer. I wouldn't compare them to the regular playback singers. The likes of MS Subhalakshmi, Pandit Bhimsen Joshi and Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali would be better peers for him.

    I must say Rahat Fateh Ali Khan is the best among any Indian/Pakistani singers active and alive now.


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    As blasphemous as I may sound here to all Indians here, I would like to say that from females I would prefer Shreya Ghoshal anyday over any of the old and famous singer. I have always been a huge fan of her and her song "Jaadu Hai Nasha Hai" causes something undescribable to me .......

    Of males there are some quality ones like Sonu Nigam or Udit Narayan, but I am a big fan of KK (Krishnakumar Kunnath), a hugely under-rated guy who sings some amazingly difficult songs and deserves an award with every song of his.

    Atif Aslam is good from the current lot of Pakistanis.
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    everyones got their own taste...


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    1) Mohd Rafi/kishore kumar
    3) Lata mangeshkar
    4) Mana dey
    5) Mukesh
    6) Asha bhosle
    7) Sonu nigam
    8) kumar sanu
    9) Nustrat fateh ali khan

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    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.

    Then the rest.

    I also endorse Vegitto's post. Seal of approval.


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    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.

    Then the rest.

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    do a polllllll....


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    Should only be one poll option: "Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan ... then the rest"


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    Quote Originally Posted by DHONI183 View Post
    As blasphemous as I may sound here to all Indians here, I would like to say that from females I would prefer Shreya Ghoshal anyday over any of the old and famous singer. I have always been a huge fan of her and her song "Jaadu Hai Nasha Hai" causes something undescribable to me .......

    Of males there are some quality ones like Sonu Nigam or Udit Narayan, but I am a big fan of KK (Krishnakumar Kunnath), a hugely under-rated guy who sings some amazingly difficult songs and deserves an award with every song of his.

    Atif Aslam is good from the current lot of Pakistanis.

    even shreya ghoshal wont admit that she is better than lata mangeshkar.Its like comparing don bradman to shahid afridi.

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    Baaz aajao bhai ^ Shahid Afridi is better than Bradman!


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    Shahid Afridi.


    Then the rest.

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    guys,can you tell me why k l sehgal was rated so highly by oldies ?

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    Lata Mangeshkar is overrated, Asha was better than her.
    Rafi Sahab from India
    Nusrat sahab from Pakistan.

    The rest does not matter.

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    I have read through a number of threads on music where both Pakistanis and Indians give there opinions.

    Indians, due to their Bollywood industry, tend to prefer filmi music which is run of the mill stuff. A new film comes out, with some good music and reshuffling of the same lyrics that you probably heard a million times, with a bit of help from the thesaurus to make it sound different. i.e.

    Teri Ankhen.....
    Tere naina......
    For your eyes.......
    Ankhon mein base ho....

    Tujhe Dekha tu....
    Dekh ke tujh ko...
    Dekha tujhe tu...
    Dekhne walon ne....

    It is very much like Ready salted crisps. They all practically taste the same but names are different.

    Pakistanis on the other hand tend to go for old school music and attach great significance to vocals. Actual vocals and not those which are tempered with in the recording studio.

    Voices of the likes of Nusrat, Rahat, Attahullah, Aziz Mian, Reshma go through you when they hit those high notes. Every time you get goose-bumps as if you are experiencing something divine.

    Just like a picture speaks a thousand words, the raags and alaaps of these singers are worth more than the lyrics themselves.

    Coming to the lyrics, these are again the highest level of poetry that you can find in the sub-continent. Full of metaphors and similes (these should be part of literature taught in Pakistan along with Iqbal's poetry) and each individual can relate to these in their own way and give their own interpretation to these lyrics.

    (I know that most of these are written by great sufi poets, but these singers give life to that poetry just like an actor gives life to dialogues written by a writer. Everyone remembers Amithab and Dilip kumar for Dialogue delivery, no one refers to the writer)

    Can you imagine jugni being sung by anyone else other than Arif Lohar or Akhiyan Udeek Diyan by anyone else other than Nusrat. Even Rahat cannot sing what Nusrat has sung.

    So I am not surprised by the list posted by the Indian members because Bollywood is what they have grown up on. I doubt they will ever understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    I have read through a number of threads on music where both Pakistanis and Indians give there opinions.

    Indians, due to their Bollywood industry, tend to prefer filmi music which is run of the mill stuff. A new film comes out, with some good music and reshuffling of the same lyrics that you probably heard a million times, with a bit of help from the thesaurus to make it sound different. i.e.

    Teri Ankhen.....
    Tere naina......
    For your eyes.......
    Ankhon mein base ho....

    Tujhe Dekha tu....
    Dekh ke tujh ko...
    Dekha tujhe tu...
    Dekhne walon ne....

    It is very much like Ready salted crisps. They all practically taste the same but names are different.

    Pakistanis on the other hand tend to go for old school music and attach great significance to vocals. Actual vocals and not those which are tempered with in the recording studio.

    Voices of the likes of Nusrat, Rahat, Attahullah, Aziz Mian, Reshma go through you when they hit those high notes. Every time you get goose-bumps as if you are experiencing something divine.

    Just like a picture speaks a thousand words, the raags and alaaps of these singers are worth more than the lyrics themselves.

    Coming to the lyrics, these are again the highest level of poetry that you can find in the sub-continent. Full of metaphors and similes (these should be part of literature taught in Pakistan along with Iqbal's poetry) and each individual can relate to these in their own way and give their own interpretation to these lyrics.

    (I know that most of these are written by great sufi poets, but these singers give life to that poetry just like an actor gives life to dialogues written by a writer. Everyone remembers Amithab and Dilip kumar for Dialogue delivery, no one refers to the writer)

    Can you imagine jugni being sung by anyone else other than Arif Lohar or Akhiyan Udeek Diyan by anyone else other than Nusrat. Even Rahat cannot sing what Nusrat has sung.

    So I am not surprised by the list posted by the Indian members because Bollywood is what they have grown up on. I doubt they will ever understand.
    i am not talking about technical or classical singing otherwise bhimsen joshi is father of all singers.I am only talking about professional singers
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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    i am not talking about technical or classical singing otherwise bhimsen joshi is father of all singers.I am only talking about professional singers
    lol what is professional singing if it aint technical??

    thread Fail..


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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    i am not talking about technical or classical singing otherwise bhimsen joshi is father of all singers.I am only talking about professional singers
    Well I guess that is where our differences start.

    I do not know what your definition of a singer is but for me he has to be someone who has the power in his voice to pierce your heart, make a stone cry, send you in a trance etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foozee View Post
    lol what is professional singing if it aint technical??

    thread Fail..
    Professional singers are trained to sing according to the mood of songs.Whereas classical singers can only sing in their zone.Thats y singers like bhimsen joshi never recieved much offers from bollywood and u probably dont even know his name.Belive me, In classical singing india is miles ahead of pakistan.India is birthplace of classical singing.Only in professional singing pakistan can match india.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    Professional singers are trained to sing according to the mood of songs.Whereas classical singers can only sing in their zone.Thats y singers like bimsen joshi never recieved much offers from bollywood and u probably dont even know his name.
    ya i dont...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Well I guess that is where our differences start.

    I do not know what your definition of a singer is but for me he has to be someone who has the power in his voice to pierce your heart, make a stone cry, send you in a trance etc.
    lol ... only good lyrics make you cry ... though high pitched besuri voice can make you weep in despair

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    Quote Originally Posted by jheenga View Post
    lol ... only good lyrics make you cry ... though high pitched besuri voice can make you weep in despair
    Bandar kia jaane Adrak ka Swaad!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Bandar kia jaane Adrak ka Swaad!
    Face a mirror and say it again.....

    And then just wait for it to absorb in...and then wait for some more

    Just coz some1 opposes your view, means his is wrong and yours is right?

    Ppl who call Nusarat Sahab are eintitled to their view and those who think Lata/Rafi Sahab are entitled to their views....


    Coz they are exactly the views and not a fact set in stone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    Bandar kia jaane Adrak ka Swaad!
    hmm ... ab langoor bhi apney aapko musik lovers samajhney lage !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foozee View Post
    lol what is professional singing if it aint technical??

    thread Fail..
    What he meant was playback singing.

    Usually, top classical singers don't fit into the playback role in movies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by haroonrasheed320 View Post
    How ca you foget Kumar Sanu
    Since I come from Tamilnadu that too not from a metro like Chennai there was not much of Hindi music influence for me during up until late 90's.

    It was only post 2000's that I have started listening more of Hindi cinema music (thanks to my study related relocation to Hyderabad first and then Pune n mushrooming Music channels). By this time I guess Sanu's career in Hindi film music industry was almost over.

    TBH, Sanu always sounded to me like a poor version of Kishore Kumar. Nevertheless he is also a legend from Hindi film music industry. BTW, My most favt song of Sanu is Kuch Na Kaho from film 1942 A love story.


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    Shoaib Akhtar.

    The milky-way.

    Nusrat.

    The 7 heavens.

    Then the mortals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    1 Lata mangeshkar : Daylights above anyone
    2 Mohammad rafi : Greatest male singer
    3 Nusrat ali khan:King of sufi songs
    4 Kishore kumar : Most versetile singer of all time
    5 Mehendi hassan : King of Ghazal
    6 Kumar sanu : King of 90s
    7 Mukesh : one of the most melodious voice
    8 Asha Bhosle:First female pop singer of india
    9 Noor jahan : Greatest female singer of pakistan
    10 Sonu nigam : Best singer we have today.
    Noor Jehan below Lata? Seriously? Why dont you go and ask Lata herself.

    Lata could never sing Ghazals which are the most hard to sing. Lata is melodious but when it comes to vocal quality and tone then Noor Jehan is way above all. Just ask musicians, not a lay man.

    Also Noor Jehan had very wild life style(married quite a few time with unlimited affairs ) so she did not maintain her voice unlike Lata who has lived life like saint.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    Professional singers are trained to sing according to the mood of songs.Whereas classical singers can only sing in their zone.Thats y singers like bhimsen joshi never recieved much offers from bollywood and u probably dont even know his name.Belive me, In classical singing india is miles ahead of pakistan.India is birthplace of classical singing.Only in professional singing pakistan can match india.
    Pakistan had amazing classical singers till 80s but since 90s pop culture took over every thing. Just check out family line of Shafqat Amanat Ali Khan and Rahat Fateh Ali Khan.

    India still value classical music but it does not mean Pakistan had no classical singers,


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    Quote Originally Posted by jheenga View Post
    lol ... only good lyrics make you cry ... though high pitched besuri voice can make you weep in despair
    If you were a true music lover, you would not call any musician besura.

    it might not be to your taste, but to class it as besura just goes to show that you are just someone who lacks knowledge.

    How can the sargam, the alaaps and the raags, the very basics of musical learning be classed as "besuri" i will never know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    If you were a true music lover, you would not call any musician besura.

    it might not be to your taste, but to class it as besura just goes to show that you are just someone who lacks knowledge.

    How can the sargam, the alaaps and the raags, the very basics of musical learning be classed as "besuri" i will never know.
    i said besuri voice .....

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    1. Himash Rashmiya

    2. Imran Khan

    3. Bohemia

    4. The guy from She Laaft Me Alone song

    5. Debojeet from Saregamapa

    6. Waris Baig

    7. The lead of Strings

    8. The lead of Jal

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    himesh : damn,never though he wud be rated !!!

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    Rafi
    Kishore
    Lata
    Mukesh
    Kumar sanu
    Udit
    Mahendra kapoor
    Asah bhosle
    Sonu nigam
    amit kumar



    Noor jahan
    Mehdi hasan
    Masood rana
    Akhlaq ahmed
    ahmed rushdi
    naheed akhtar
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    Lata daylight ahead of Noor Jahan and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan?

    I stopped reading the OP after that.

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    Singing:

    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan,
    Pt Bhimsen Joshi, day light and then the rest ...


    Playback Singing : ( Pakistan doesn't have much of this style of singing, so its pretty much Indian )
    Md Rafi, Kishore Kumar, Lata Mangeshkar, RFAK

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    Quote Originally Posted by The WagonWheel View Post
    Singing:

    Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan,
    Pt Bhimsen Joshi, day light and then the rest ...



    Playback Singing : ( Pakistan doesn't have much of this style of singing, so its pretty much Indian )
    Md Rafi, Kishore Kumar, Lata Mangeshkar, RFAK
    There is someone called m.s.subbulakshmi who was the first ever singer/musician in india to be awarded the bharat ratna.

    Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru about M.S. Subbulakshmi- "Who am I, a mere Prime Minister before a Queen, a Queen of Music".


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    ^^ Agreed. I know who she is and how accomplished she is but I prefer to listen to a male voice in classical music. Matter of choice. But a great great singer nevertheless...

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    Music is all about taste!
    I don't have any specific singer whom I listen to. I listen to songs I like which makes me relax or feel better. I don't care about who is the singer or which country the music is from. Ofcourse I don't listen to Chinese or Japanese frequently because I don't understand anything of it. And there is times I feel to listen to a specific singer forexample Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan or a specific genre like pop or Ghazals or sufi but that does not mean I like Nusrat Saheb better then someone else or I like Pop more then other genres.

    You should think about that you are comparing all time legends - so Instead of fighting for who should be nr. 1 or who should be nr.2 go to youtube and enjoy the great music all those legends have made for you.

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    I kinda have to put Abida Parveen too in that list.. her voice is great.. to me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Afridi_Fan View Post
    Lata daylight ahead of Noor Jahan and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan?

    I stopped reading the OP after that.
    as i said EARLIER that their is difference between playback singing and classical singing.U cant compare both.

    lata is miles ahead of anyone in playback singing , their is not even close competitor.

    In classical singing, Bhimsen joshi is greatest classical singer of all time AND THEN COME THE REST.
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    bhimsen joshi aint famous..coz he sucks lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foozee View Post
    I kinda have to put Abida Parveen too in that list.. her voice is great.. to me
    The power in her voice is immense!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    The power in her voice is immense!
    i know.... shes amazing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    I have read through a number of threads on music where both Pakistanis and Indians give there opinions.

    Indians, due to their Bollywood industry, tend to prefer filmi music which is run of the mill stuff. A new film comes out, with some good music and reshuffling of the same lyrics that you probably heard a million times, with a bit of help from the thesaurus to make it sound different. i.e.

    Teri Ankhen.....
    Tere naina......
    For your eyes.......
    Ankhon mein base ho....

    Tujhe Dekha tu....
    Dekh ke tujh ko...
    Dekha tujhe tu...
    Dekhne walon ne....

    It is very much like Ready salted crisps. They all practically taste the same but names are different.

    Pakistanis on the other hand tend to go for old school music and attach great significance to vocals. Actual vocals and not those which are tempered with in the recording studio.

    Voices of the likes of Nusrat, Rahat, Attahullah, Aziz Mian, Reshma go through you when they hit those high notes. Every time you get goose-bumps as if you are experiencing something divine.

    Just like a picture speaks a thousand words, the raags and alaaps of these singers are worth more than the lyrics themselves.

    Coming to the lyrics, these are again the highest level of poetry that you can find in the sub-continent. Full of metaphors and similes (these should be part of literature taught in Pakistan along with Iqbal's poetry) and each individual can relate to these in their own way and give their own interpretation to these lyrics.

    (I know that most of these are written by great sufi poets, but these singers give life to that poetry just like an actor gives life to dialogues written by a writer. Everyone remembers Amithab and Dilip kumar for Dialogue delivery, no one refers to the writer)

    Can you imagine jugni being sung by anyone else other than Arif Lohar or Akhiyan Udeek Diyan by anyone else other than Nusrat. Even Rahat cannot sing what Nusrat has sung.

    So I am not surprised by the list posted by the Indian members because Bollywood is what they have grown up on. I doubt they will ever understand.
    Very good analysis. Let me point out why I disagree completely.

    (1) It seems to me that you're assuming Indian music is only Bollywood music. Not even close. Preferences can vary but in terms of sheer variation and styles, what we call Indian music leaves what we call Pakistani music far far in the shade

    (2) You said

    Coming to the lyrics, these are again the highest level of poetry that you can find in the sub-continent.
    Opinion again, but I would say a flat no. In all courtesy, what do you know, for example, of Rabindra sangeet? Of the freewheeling Bauls?

    Don't get me wrong, I love the sufiana/ Ghazal styles. But I know that these are by no way the "highest level of poetry" in the sub-continent.

    3. You said:
    Pakistanis on the other hand tend to go for old school music and attach great significance to vocals.
    If Pakistanis had a successful counterpart to Bollywood, you'd see the same thing there. Bollywood is mass commercialization of a product. That does not mean that it is the only product.

    Finally, my opinion on Nusrat - just because a man has a 'rustic' traditional voice does not mean he is the better singer. Conversely just because a man is a 'commercial' singer does not mean he is automatically inferior.

    Nusrat was amazing, but his style or school was what made the man. The content and the music of what he sang was the 'killer' part of his singing, not, IMO, his voice.

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    I am surprised no one has mentioned Manna dey! and the legend is still living
    Quite underrated he is!



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    pak singers i like are iqbal bano, abida parveen, nayyara noor,NFAK, RFAK, strings





    atif aslam has some good songs too- out before i get lynched

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foozee View Post
    bhimsen joshi aint famous..coz he sucks lol
    Or may be you don't have a taste for classical music?

    Honestly, this is the first time I've encountered someone who thinks that he's not that good.



    If it comes to classical music, I think, the best in business today is Parveen Sultana. Amongst her peers, she is the highest rated. Unlike most top female classical singers, she doesn't have a "tough" voice (if you get what I mean) but her range and ability would put most to shame.


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    i put manna dey and mukesh in same category, some really good songs but not a fan of their voices per se.. manna dey was also a bit of a classical song specialist except for those songs from anand

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    Quote Originally Posted by cric_fan82 View Post
    I am surprised no one has mentioned Manna dey! and the legend is still living
    Quite underrated he is!
    Manna Dey's best song ever



    Now, this takes some beating.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud View Post
    Manna Dey's best song ever



    Now, this takes some beating.
    agree! watching contestants trying to perform this song in reality music shows in cringeworthy

    my favorite manna de is this song

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Schaden Freud View Post
    Or may be you don't have a taste for classical music?

    Honestly, this is the first time I've encountered someone who thinks that he's not that good.



    If it comes to classical music, I think, the best in business today is Parveen Sultana. Amongst her peers, she is the highest rated. Unlike most top female classical singers, she doesn't have a "tough" voice (if you get what I mean) but her range and ability would put most to shame.
    im kiddin man relax.. i jus havent heard of him, he may be the best..


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    I guess, I am the only Mukesh fan here!


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    Quote Originally Posted by cric_fan82 View Post
    I am surprised no one has mentioned Manna dey! and the legend is still living
    Quite underrated he is!
    Amazing singer. My favourite song of his is Jhanak jhanak tori baaje paayaliya from Mere Hazoor


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    I guess, I am the only Mukesh fan here!
    guess again


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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    I guess, I am the only Mukesh fan here!
    mukesh had great songs for raj kapoor movies..esp mera naam joker

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zaDC...eature=related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foozee View Post
    im kiddin man relax.. i jus havent heard of him, he may be the best..
    Alright man. His songs are mainly raga based and take digressions from the main lyrics often. But, he is a sight to behold when he sings - he's completely in the music like some animal who doesn't give a hoot about how others perceive him.

    Most of his youtube videos are not that great because he was very old when they took it and could hardly sing with the same vigour. You've got to watch those rare videos of his youth.

    There are a handful of classical singers in the sub-continent who have managed to bring rain which was never forecasted singing raag malhaar. Bhimsen Joshi has passed away but he's one of those people who could do it. I was very skeptical about these things until I met someone who has actually done the same. These people are tremendous singers who become ill just because of the intensity with which they sing. Watching one of them, live and at their best, is a great experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryin Out Loud View Post
    Very good analysis. Let me point out why I disagree completely.

    (1) It seems to me that you're assuming Indian music is only Bollywood music. Not even close. Preferences can vary but in terms of sheer variation and styles, what we call Indian music leaves what we call Pakistani music far far in the shade

    (2) You said



    Opinion again, but I would say a flat no. In all courtesy, what do you know, for example, of Rabindra sangeet? Of the freewheeling Bauls?

    Don't get me wrong, I love the sufiana/ Ghazal styles. But I know that these are by no way the "highest level of poetry" in the sub-continent.

    3. You said:


    If Pakistanis had a successful counterpart to Bollywood, you'd see the same thing there. Bollywood is mass commercialization of a product. That does not mean that it is the only product.

    Finally, my opinion on Nusrat - just because a man has a 'rustic' traditional voice does not mean he is the better singer. Conversely just because a man is a 'commercial' singer does not mean he is automatically inferior.

    Nusrat was amazing, but his style or school was what made the man. The content and the music of what he sang was the 'killer' part of his singing, not, IMO, his voice.
    You tell any other singer to sing any of his songs and then you come and tell me that his voice was not special.

    Even Rahat cannot sing what Nusrat has sang. To possess a six-octave vocal range voice is not something to be taken lightly.

    Finally, you may be right and India may have a thriving Classical music scene but is it even known outside India?

    Answer is: No, not really.

    Indians love their bollywood soo much that between 2002 to 2005 there was a storm of old songs being remixed with raunchy videos and all that was ever played on indian channels were those songs nothing classical at all.

    A show like coke studio can never survive in India. You might have a classical scene but if someone was to watch your mainstream channels, they would not know that it existed.


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    Mukesh was pure quality.He hits to songs ratio is by far the best in bollywood history.


    we will not miss a 'never will be' like Malik. Drop Him For Good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W63L35 View Post
    I guess, I am the only Mukesh fan here!
    i am huge mukesh fan!


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    I do enjoy Mohammad Rafi and Kishore Kumar songs.. occasionally


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    1. Lata Mangeshkar
    2. Kishore Kumar
    3. Hemant Kumar
    4. Rafi
    5. Manna De
    6. NFAK
    7. Geeta Dutt
    8. Suraiyya
    9. Jagjit Singh
    10. Rahat Fateh Ali Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegitto1 View Post
    You tell any other singer to sing any of his songs and then you come and tell me that his voice was not special.

    Even Rahat cannot sing what Nusrat has sang. To possess a six-octave vocal range voice is not something to be taken lightly.

    Finally, you may be right and India may have a thriving Classical music scene but is it even known outside India?

    Answer is: No, not really.

    Indians love their bollywood soo much that between 2002 to 2005 there was a storm of old songs being remixed with raunchy videos and all that was ever played on indian channels were those songs nothing classical at all.

    A show like coke studio can never survive in India. You might have a classical scene but if someone was to watch your mainstream channels, they would not know that it existed.
    Well, they are going to start airing Coke Studio in India from this month on. I think, it's gonna be a hit.

    I don't watch any music reality shows as I prefer listening to music by the professional singers rather than some newcomer trying it followed by hours spent on his childhood, his father crying with pride and him getting shouted at by some judge.

    But, I'm definitely going to follow Coke Studio.

    Actually, Indian classical music does have quite a following outside India as well and most top classical singers make money mainly from their foreign concerts, but, like the domestic scene, classical concerts outside are also mainly for a niche audience who are interested in it or related to it and is not marketed properly to everyone.

    Classical musicians themselves have to take some blame because most of these singers have a giant ego and they wouldn't perform for crowds who don't appreciate their art or behave in a manner that they don't like.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baazigar420 View Post
    even shreya ghoshal wont admit that she is better than lata mangeshkar.Its like comparing don bradman to shahid afridi.
    You really think only Shreya Ghoshal can convince me? Secondly, Lata Mangeshkar was no where referred to in my post.

    It is a matter of taste and choice. You don´t have any statistics in singing like cricket. A comparison to Shahid Afridi was unfair as the girl´s consistency is unquestionable.........

    As I said, my statement would be considered blasphemous.........


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    I really liked Shreya's songs in Devdas.


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    I hate both Lata and Asha. Yeah, I said it.


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    ok - lemme post mine from what i have heard :
    mard- kishore , nusrat[indem high notes],rafi,mukesh ,sukhvinder[ da guy who sung chaiyaan chaiyaan]
    zanani - noor babz, aasha , lata[skilled but thin awaaz]& shreya

    ..if some1 who has heard kl sehgal extensively tell moi why is he rated so highly by budhdhas,i am gonna do a musical jihad & post 5 reshamiya songs here !!!

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