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    Tape ball cricket thread - Tips, tricks etc

    The variation was pioneered in Pakistan and is greatly attributed to Pakistan's famous production of Fast bowlers as children are brought up playing the game using a tape ball in which various skills are developed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_ball



    Use this thread for all tape ball related discussions.

    Anyone knows how to bowl the "finger ball" in tapeball? How do we grip the ball? Obviously, learning to control it is the main thing.



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    Tape ball cricket is the reason we have so many players who are lacking in technique and so many fast bowlers who chuck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Desi_Joker View Post
    Tape ball cricket is the reason we have so many players who are lacking in technique and so many fast bowlers who chuck.
    its also one of the main reasons why we produce so many fast bowlers and how numerous youngsters too poor to afford proper equipment are introduced to the game.

    swings and roundabouts really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElRaja View Post
    its also one of the main reasons why we produce so many fast bowlers and how numerous youngsters too poor to afford proper equipment are introduced to the game.

    swings and roundabouts really.
    spot on. Tape ball is about pace bowling. Some of my Indian friends used to play with heavy tennis ball and their game was boring 1s and 2s. Once they were introduced to tape ball, it changed their mindset.

    Hardly see any spinners with tape ball. Those who are, have to be exceptional.

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    Haven't played tape ball for years
    It screws with your timing when you go back to playing with a normal ball .
    Tape ball is fun compared to tennis ball cos playing with tennis ball unless your an exceptional bowler your gonna get bored .


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    I find playing with a tennis ball also ruins your timing etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRfaN_LA View Post
    Anyone knows how to bowl the "finger ball" in tapeball? How do we grip the ball? Obviously, learning to control it is the main thing.

    Haven't been able to spin the tapeball much without chucking (some limit wrist movement helps though). Much easier to try legspin with tapeball if you really want to bowl spin

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    i never knew who cud really spin the tennis ball. but i love playing it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    I find playing with a tennis ball also ruins your timing etc.
    Yeah the ball comes onto the bat ultra slow


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    Quote Originally Posted by iRfaN_LA View Post
    The variation was pioneered in Pakistan and is greatly attributed to Pakistan's famous production of Fast bowlers as children are brought up playing the game using a tape ball in which various skills are developed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_ball



    Use this thread for all tape ball related discussions.

    Anyone knows how to bowl the "finger ball" in tapeball? How do we grip the ball? Obviously, learning to control it is the main thing.


    This is the ball I'm playing with tomorrow. Any tips on possiblu swinging/seaming this ball? I dont know if shining this ball is possible at all, but any tips on grip and the wrist position anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPosheeda View Post
    This is the ball I'm playing with tomorrow. Any tips on possiblu swinging/seaming this ball? I dont know if shining this ball is possible at all, but any tips on grip and the wrist position anyone?
    Hold it lose and not too tightly
    Sorry haven't played for years but that is one thing I used to do to try and swing the ball .


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPosheeda View Post
    This is the ball I'm playing with tomorrow. Any tips on possiblu swinging/seaming this ball? I dont know if shining this ball is possible at all, but any tips on grip and the wrist position anyone?
    Yes. Tilt it towards fine leg and angle the ball in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPosheeda View Post
    This is the ball I'm playing with tomorrow. Any tips on possiblu swinging/seaming this ball? I dont know if shining this ball is possible at all, but any tips on grip and the wrist position anyone?
    The swing on the tape ball is mainly due to your bowling action. No way you can shine a tape ball but when the tape is new, it swings more. So, take the new ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPosheeda View Post
    This is the ball I'm playing with tomorrow. Any tips on possiblu swinging/seaming this ball? I dont know if shining this ball is possible at all, but any tips on grip and the wrist position anyone?
    if u want swing the ball away from the batsmen then angle ur fingers towards slips(remember ur fingers and not the seam) and when u are about to release the ball put more pressure on ur middle finger to angle the ball away from the batsmen.
    if u want to swing it in then angle ur fingers towards leg slip and when u are about to release the ball put more pressure on ur index finger to angle the ball in.
    dont grip the ball too tight and a high arm action will allow u to get more swing than a slingy one.
    and pitch the ball at good length,not too full as that will take out seam movement if any.
    Last edited by battler; 18th January 2013 at 20:16.

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    Anyone who played Tape knows that, the in-swing or out-swing means nothing if you are a fast or medium pacer. You will get hit, only way is, to do it as fast as you can, and control/vary your length.
    If you are a spinner that is a total different. Anyone who says you can't spin the tape ball need to attended Ramazan late night tournament.

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    I used to love tape ball cricket.. i remember in the 90s when my gulee had lots of youngsters we used to play 2 day test matches during the summer holidays.. and to help the bowlers we used to tape only 3 quarters of the ball.. this caused the ball to reverse swing a great deal if the bowler was fast enough.. and the fielding side usually employed 2-3 slips..


    Fun times..

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    rip some tape off on one side and then you can swing it towards the side that still has some tape. but only remove a little because you'll lose too much speed if there's too much friction in the air

    also, when trying to hit down the ground, bat with a square on technique and get your front foot outside of leg stump at plant it there, you'll get under the ball a lot easier. i only use this technique in 6 over matches



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    As a coach - a conditioning one but a coach nevertheless - I state explicitly to not use these darned things in your cricket. They will ruin your batting techniques and you might never recover even five years on.

    Got into a similar debate here:

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=167331


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshland View Post
    As a coach - a conditioning one but a coach nevertheless - I state explicitly to not use these darned things in your cricket. They will ruin your batting techniques and you might never recover even five years on.

    Got into a similar debate here:

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=167331
    This is the generally accepted principle and because of it Pakistan has produced fantastic fast bowlers and mediocre batsmen. On the other hand India uses something called a MRI ball which is a harder tennis ball. This produces the opposite, mediocre bowlers and fantastic batsmen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Momin Baig View Post
    This is the generally accepted principle and because of it Pakistan has produced fantastic fast bowlers and mediocre batsmen. On the other hand India uses something called a MRI ball which is a harder tennis ball. This produces the opposite, mediocre bowlers and fantastic batsmen.
    Yes, tape ball cricket for the most part produces blind sloggers - no offense to any of his fans here, but Shahid Afridi is a pertinent example.


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    The best way to spin a tape ball is bowling unorthodox underarm wrist spin.
    I remember how i used to get all the kids out by bowling that.
    Good times.

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    Taking a single on the last ball of an over is the biggest crime one could commit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshland View Post
    As a coach - a conditioning one but a coach nevertheless - I state explicitly to not use these darned things in your cricket. They will ruin your batting techniques and you might never recover even five years on.

    Got into a similar debate here:

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=167331
    i know where your coming from but pak isnt new zealand, no one will pay for a cricket ball (let alone a proper bat) for some time pass in the street. a cricket ball would also destroy the masonry and brick walls of neighbours and get destroyed itself in about probably less than 10 overs of play.

    ive played with a cricket ball myself on concrete and its fun but not practical for the situation most young kids in pakistan play the game in. the choice is between kids playing tape call cricket, or no cricket at all. id rather take them playing tape ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshland View Post
    As a coach - a conditioning one but a coach nevertheless - I state explicitly to not use these darned things in your cricket. They will ruin your batting techniques and you might never recover even five years on.

    Got into a similar debate here:

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...d.php?t=167331
    I would much rather kids play with tape ball than no cricket at all, or cricket with a tennis ball like Indians and their trundler producing factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElRaja View Post
    i know where your coming from but pak isnt new zealand, no one will pay for a cricket ball (let alone a proper bat) for some time pass in the street.
    I wasn't comparing Pakistan to down under at all, more like Sri Lanka and India where kids grow up with a tennis ball (with no tape on it).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshland View Post
    I wasn't comparing Pakistan to down under at all, more like Sri Lanka and India where kids grow up with a tennis ball (with no tape on it).
    At my university in the States, we have a club cricket team that plays with hard ball. You can clearly see a divide between the players that grew up playing with hard ball and tape ball.

    When we have tournaments for fun between non-club players, we use the MRI ball. But even then teams are limited to only 2 club players on each team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshland View Post
    I wasn't comparing Pakistan to down under at all, more like Sri Lanka and India where kids grow up with a tennis ball (with no tape on it).
    At my university in the States, we have a club cricket team that plays with hard ball. You can clearly see a divide between the players that grew up playing with hard ball and tape ball.

    When we have tournaments for fun between non-club players, we use the MRI ball. But even then teams are limited to only 2 club players on each team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshland View Post
    Yes, tape ball cricket for the most part produces blind sloggers - no offense to any of his fans here, but Shahid Afridi is a pertinent example.
    That's not a very good example since the likes of Saed Anwar also came from the tape ball circuit .


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPosheeda View Post
    This is the ball I'm playing with tomorrow. Any tips on possiblu swinging/seaming this ball? I dont know if shining this ball is possible at all, but any tips on grip and the wrist position anyone?
    Tape heavily on one side and it will swing like anything or put lil bit mud underneath the tape on one side and it will make anyone dance lol On one side do what they do with the seam, loosen it, pick it up slightly on 2 to three rows so the umpire wont notice it and that will swing too but it will make a lot of noise as it rips through air(dont pick it up too much) so it becomes a lot easier for umpires and batsmen to figure out what you are upto.
    Last edited by ecstatic_freak; 21st January 2013 at 18:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    I find playing with a tennis ball also ruins your timing etc.
    Its good for hand eye coordination as in my opinion the most important fact of batting is to watch the ball onto your bat, judge its speed and then react accordingly and tape ball can help you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRfaN_LA View Post
    spot on. Tape ball is about pace bowling. Some of my Indian friends used to play with heavy tennis ball and their game was boring 1s and 2s. Once they were introduced to tape ball, it changed their mindset.

    Hardly see any spinners with tape ball. Those who are, have to be exceptional.
    Like me ;).

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    Any bowling tips @TalentSpotterPk @Chief_destroyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by shebimalik View Post
    Any bowling tips @TalentSpotterPk @Chief_destroyer
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    Anyone know how to spin/swing tape ball?


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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    Anyone know how to spin/swing tape ball?
    Just put an extra layer of tape as the seam. Then used the same tactics as hard ball. If you are good enough, then the ball will move. I play in my driveway with tape ball, and I can bowl leg and off spin easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Just put an extra layer of tape as the seam. Then used the same tactics as hard ball. If you are good enough, then the ball will move. I play in my driveway with tape ball, and I can bowl leg and off spin easily.
    I can spin it when I bowl slow, and I can also get some seam movement when bowling pace, but I can't swing the bowl in the air with the tape tennis ball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    I can spin it when I bowl slow, and I can also get some seam movement when bowling pace, but I can't swing the bowl in the air with the tape tennis ball.
    Well, obviously the ball won't spin as much when you bowl faster. Your fingers have more time to impart torque on the ball if your arm is slower.

    You might not be bowling fast enough for the ball to swing, though I doubt that that's the case. All I can say is, lock the wrist, and flick it.

    Of course, practice makes perfect.

    How long is the pitch you are playing in?


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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    I can spin it when I bowl slow, and I can also get some seam movement when bowling pace, but I can't swing the bowl in the air with the tape tennis ball.
    Are you Pakistani or not?

    Ball tampering is the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Well, obviously the ball won't spin as much when you bowl faster. Your fingers have more time to impart torque on the ball if your arm is slower.

    You might not be bowling fast enough for the ball to swing, though I doubt that that's the case. All I can say is, lock the wrist, and flick it.

    Of course, practice makes perfect.

    How long is the pitch you are playing in?
    We always play in a full pitch we usually play with indoor cricket balls but we don't have any at the moment so we're just using a tape ball.

    It's not as fun as it is with the indoor cricket ball but it works I guess. Gonna have to buy a new indoor cricket ball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
    Are you Pakistani or not?

    Ball tampering is the answer.
    Lol we retape it every time it comes off so that's not an option. So I'm just gonna have to buy another indoor cricket ball. - much easier to swing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    We always play in a full pitch we usually play with indoor cricket balls but we don't have any at the moment so we're just using a tape ball.

    It's not as fun as it is with the indoor cricket ball but it works I guess. Gonna have to buy a new indoor cricket ball.
    Ok cool just remember that tape ball will always swing and spin. You just have to bowl it the right way.


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    Played in Brooklyn a few hours ago against a Indian team. Smacked them for 89 in 5 overs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
    Are you Pakistani or not?

    Ball tampering is the answer.
    If you're playing outside on the pavement then you don't even need to tamper, bowl round arm for a couple of balls to make sure the ball is only landing on that side, eventually after 20-30 balls tape will start to come off from the side.

    Then the fun starts


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    I have playing a tapeball match tomorrow. It has been almost 3 years since i played weekend cricket.

    Would appreciate any tips on slogging as most likely will be played as a relu katta

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    Quote Originally Posted by TQ89 View Post
    I have playing a tapeball match tomorrow. It has been almost 3 years since i played weekend cricket.

    Would appreciate any tips on slogging as most likely will be played as a relu katta
    Keep yourself deep in the crease and play as late as possible. Contrary to popular beliefs, slogging as late as possible in Tape Tennis, yields one better results than playing on the up.

    Also since no LBW would be applicable here take an off stump guard and as this will at least not let you throw your wicket away bowled. Unless and until the bowler absolutely bowls a Jaffa Yorker or the batsmen completely misses the trajectory of the ball altogether getting bowled with an off stump guard in Tape Tennis is one of the hardest dismissals.

    Judge where the nearest boundary is and try to have a stance 90 degrees in that direction so naturally if you have a swing at it you'd have a higher change to play the oncoming delivery into that shortest direction. And Finally.........

    Channel your Inner Afridi

    Happy Hacking !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedwaqas92 View Post
    Keep yourself deep in the crease and play as late as possible. Contrary to popular beliefs, slogging as late as possible in Tape Tennis, yields one better results than playing on the up.

    Also since no LBW would be applicable here take an off stump guard and as this will at least not let you throw your wicket away bowled. Unless and until the bowler absolutely bowls a Jaffa Yorker or the batsmen completely misses the trajectory of the ball altogether getting bowled with an off stump guard in Tape Tennis is one of the hardest dismissals.

    Judge where the nearest boundary is and try to have a stance 90 degrees in that direction so naturally if you have a swing at it you'd have a higher change to play the oncoming delivery into that shortest direction. And Finally.........

    Channel your Inner Afridi

    Happy Hacking !!
    Thanks for the suggestion. Didn't bat very long in two matches but got a first ball six on midwicket in the first match which got everybody talking and made them send me as an opener in the 2nd match.

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