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    Mohammad Hafeez, oh so untouchable Mohammad Hafeez

    An average of 10 in his last 6 games, it's hardly a surprise Pakistan's captain-in waiting is beginning to frustrate Pakistani cricket enthusiasts. Most believe and perhaps rightly so, that he manages a place in the team on the basis of his bowling prowess. That's not far from the truth, Hafeez's usual neat and tidy spells add a unique dimension to Pakistan's bowling attack, a glaring consequence of which is their much exposed batting fragility.

    His temperament may have quenched in today's innings but is usually sound, however, one can hardly say the same for his rigidly flawed technique. He seemed rather confident facing the likes of Narine and the trundler-friendly pace of Sammy and who can blame him? When you struggle as much against the moving ball as he does, you hope and pray for the openers to play it out. Usually, they don't. Today, Shehzad and Jamshed shocked even the Guyana sunshine in managing to do so.

    Hafeez would have been relieved to have gotten a start. A healthy 20 at a great strike rate, it looked like it was all coming together. A partnership building. Jamshed's luck as ripe as ever but this was Pakistan's chase. Something had to give. Pressure. They had to make it dramatic. There had to be a collapse. Misbah already had his pads on. Hafeez gave in to the script, danced down the track and hit Narine straight down the throat of Lendyl Simmons at long-on. That moment of madness initiated Pakistan's inevitable collapse. They could have blocked, they could have bonked - the end result was already in fine print.

    Some are deluded enough to think Hafeez will drop down the order, hell, he's come down a spot to accommodate Shehzad, he's done the nation - a favor. It's a pity, they fail to understand the dynamics of Pakistani cricket. A captain-elect being dropped is hard to fathom, especially when his presence is pivotal to their bowling attack, as damaging as it might be to their batting lineup.

    It begs the question..who can give Mohammad Hafeez, the oh so untouchable Mohammad Hafeez - the wake up call, he so dearly needs.


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    ..Sohaib Maqsood and Babar Azam aren't even part of the squad. Some on the forum have suggested they could perform the Hafeez role, whilst improving the batting contributions. Any takers?
    Last edited by Canistani Hero; 16th July 2013 at 22:36.


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    Show him the door please !


    Hafeez - The only "Professor" who has no clue about his own subject !

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    as crap as he is ill take him over your saint any day. At least fake professors negativity isnt contagious


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    Hafeez , misbah, and shafiq have to go

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    Another fact is that our future Captain average 16 in Tests outside Sub Continent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lestaboy View Post
    Hafeez , misbah, and shafiq have to go
    Shafiq and Misbah should play Tests....But no tests for the hack and the ftb hafeez who average 16 outside SC...He should stick with T20's for now...


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    Problem with Hafeez is that; Batsmen score runs but he blocks runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canistani Hero View Post
    ..Sohaib Maqsood and Babar Azam are even part of the squad. Some on the forum have suggested they could perform the Hafeez role, whilst improving the batting contributions. Any takers?
    Sohaib Maqsood is not part of the squad, he's back home playing in Ramzan Cup.

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    only in Pakistan a joker like him can be an automatic selection in the XI.
    still a better captain than Misbah though


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canistani Hero View Post
    ..Sohaib Maqsood and Babar Azam are even part of the squad. Some on the forum have suggested they could perform the Hafeez role, whilst improving the batting contributions. Any takers?
    Sohaib and Babar both are in Pakistan at the moment playing Ramadan T20 cup they are not part of current squad...


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    I meant aren't. Ha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    as crap as he is ill take him over your saint any day. At least fake professors negativity isnt contagious
    Who's my saint?


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    At least he's trying to be positive and trying to win the game unlike our selfish captain. I'd take Hafeez over Misbah simply because Hafeez doesn't change the mentality of the team. He lets the players play their natural game.

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    Time for professor to go back to Faisalabad and teach primary kids in village school.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    At least he's trying to be positive and trying to win the game unlike our selfish captain. I'd take Hafeez over Misbah simply because Hafeez doesn't change the mentality of the team. He lets the players play their natural game.
    this and in regards to being a captain he learns from his mistakes.

    He picked the likes of Nazir and Sami for the world t20. Afterwards he dropped them and picked a youthful team. He also ended the tuck tuck approach that he took in the world t20 and promoted umar akmal up the order


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    At least he's trying to be positive and trying to win the game unlike our selfish captain. I'd take Hafeez over Misbah simply because Hafeez doesn't change the mentality of the team. He lets the players play their natural game.
    On what basis is Misbah preventing batsmen from playing their natural game. Okay Misbah tuk-tuks and preaches everybody in the dressing room to just tuk-tuk? He may have said the openers should see out the new ball but its ridiculous to say Jamshed and Shehzad's tuk-tuking is Misbah-enforced.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zaid65 View Post
    Time for professor to go back to Faisalabad and teach primary kids in village school.
    We'll need somebody who can bowl all those economical overs in the middle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    this and in regards to being a captain he learns from his mistakes.

    He picked the likes of Nazir and Sami for the world t20. Afterwards he dropped them and picked a youthful team. He also ended the tuck tuck approach that he took in the world t20 and promoted umar akmal up the order
    Agreed.

    Shahzad was brought in. He demoted himself down the order to 4. He's played some fantastic knocks as T20 captain also.

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    He was the no.1 all rounder and in the top 5 in terms of bowlers not too long ago. You're overreacting.

    He had a bad SA and a bad champions Trophy bat and ball. And hasn't done great in WI series. That's enough to drop him now. It's not like he was being carried like some others in the team/formerly in the team.

    Afridi at the moment should be our allrounder if he can be consistent with bat and ball. If he can't either get him to be as a specialist bowler if his bowling alone is good enough and try someone else out, or chuck him out. He's earnt the chance to push for that allrounder spot given the performances on his comeback so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    He was the no.1 all rounder and in the top 5 in terms of bowlers not too long ago. You're overreacting.

    He had a bad SA and a bad champions Trophy bat and ball. And hasn't done great in WI series. That's enough to drop him now. It's not like he was being carried like some others in the team/formerly in the team.

    Afridi at the moment should be our allrounder if he can be consistent with bat and ball. If he can't either get him to be as a specialist bowler if his bowling alone is good enough and try someone else out, or chuck him out. He's earnt the chance to push for that allrounder spot given the performances on his comeback so far.
    Also remember last year in Sri Lanka he played all 5 ODI's had a horrible time their. Against India in India he played only one good knock out of three. The same against Australia.

    Truth is he's been struggling for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    Also remember last year in Sri Lanka he played all 5 ODI's had a horrible time their. Against India in India he played only one good knock out of three. The same against Australia.

    Truth is he's been struggling for some time.
    He was very useful in India, and even against Australia. Yes as a batsman he was struggling but not as an allrounder. He wouldn't have been no.1 allrounder if he was useless. He is struggling with ball and bat now. And that's reflected by the rankings too, he's sliding down them.

    Anyway deserves to be dropped now.

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    I have been a long time critic of him....

    Do not simply like this genre of players namely, "Adha teetar aur adha bataer"

    Either you have to be a batsman or a bowler or a wicket-keeper batsman or a genuine all-rounder

    Some call them utility players and some refer them as bits and pieces players......For a minnow or weak side like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe , they do provide utility but are useless in higher quality of cricket....


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    I have said it before and will say it again, Hafeez is the epitome of mediocrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads101 View Post
    He was very useful in India, and even against Australia. Yes as a batsman he was struggling but not as an allrounder. He wouldn't have been no.1 allrounder if he was useless. He is struggling with ball and bat now. And that's reflected by the rankings too, he's sliding down them.

    Anyway deserves to be dropped now.
    He only performs in batting conditions against mediocre bowling or against mediocre batting line in spin friendly conditions.....

    But when the quality or conditions are changed he proves to be neither a batsman nor a bowler....

    And I remember you have always been his staunch supporter.


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    Said it a million times you can't have Afridi and Hafeez in the same team, both are as unpredictable as each other and in reality get in the team because of their bowling.

    The worst thing is that he never takes responsibility or show any guts, why is he not opening anymore why is he shying away from his role. Over the years i have seen Hafeez waste countless DRS reviews because of his selfish nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waqar goraya View Post
    He only performs in batting conditions against mediocre bowling or against mediocre batting line in spin friendly conditions.....

    But when the quality or conditions are changed he proves to be neither a batsman nor a bowler....

    And I remember you have always been his staunch supporter.
    But when is it termed mediocre? He performed against the SA bowling line up back in 2010, that's how he cemented his place in the side. We have mostly played in the UAE/asia where he's done well. Yet to see any of this current bunch perform out of asia with the bat except Misbah and Umar too.

    We have hardly played outside Asia. In west indies he's done well bat and ball.

    I do not think he would have been a top 5 bowler nor risen to no.1 if he wasn't consistently performing against all sides. He is not a wicket-taker, but he's great and keeping runs down. Does that against everyone. Even in CT he did it, just he his bowling wasn't used much. In SA agree he failed majority times though.

    Guy was of worth, he's just not doing well and is now dropped. Was performing to a high standard and dominating the rankings as a result for some time. And was consistent in his all round efforts since his comeback. Not anymore sadly.

    I am a supporter of him, but if he deserves to be dropped he should be dropped. Afridi's earned the chance to win back that all rounder position from him.

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    ads is a supporter of Hafeez but he is NOT a blind supporter. The fairest poster on PP in my view.

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    I agree that in ODI cricket he deserved to be in the side because we did not have any other option to open with and were mostly playing in subcontinent......And still he did not do justice with opening spot but was useful because of his bowling...

    But he has failed everywhere in test cricket except UAE , Srilanka or Bangladesh ....He failed in West indies and New Zealand too..

    I still believe that he is only a bits and pieces player , in other words a utility player as you would call it.


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    Is it just me or has the Pak think tank always lacked creativity and an ability to adapt? The clear problem here is that regardless of the odd super innings by Hafeez, he's simply too inconsistent facing the new ball. I believe he can still be an effective batsman, but certainly not at 3. Lets be honest here and admit that apart from Misbah and Umer, the whole line up is a walking wicket - even Jamshed given the form he's in. So these two should bat as high up as possible. I would give Umer 4 and Misbah 5. I think Umer has to come in first because Misbah could very easily eat up 35 overs of 2 runs an over before Umer gets a chance (no exaggeration).

    Not sure who should occupy 3 at this point. A bit harsh to give to Harris, but then again, the Aussies do this sort of thing (Marsh, Cowen, Khawaja) so why not.

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    After playing for more than 10 years he hasn't improved a single bit. Still averages 27 with the SR of 69. Pathetic!!!


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    Mohammad Hafeez, oh so untouchable Mohammad Hafeez..

    Drop him. Had a fair run.


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    Fact was that Hafeez is a mediocre batsmen and will always be, his career in the national team was pretty much over and no one even thought about him, then the spot fixing scandal happened, Salman Butt was gone, all of a sudden Pakistan were looking for an experienced opener to replace Butt and they found Hafeez, then Pakistan realized that they no longer have Asif and Aamer to bowl 20 sure shot overs between them, they found Gul and Riaz leading the pace attack, except Ajmal the other options weren't that consistent so Hafeez began to bowl those filler overs more often than not, then Hafeez became an all rounder, then he became a crucial member of the team, and because of his "experience" he became a permanent member of the team and a contender to replace Misbah as captain... but the fact still remains that Hafeez is a mediocre player and will always be.

    Now it's upto Pakistan to look for a better option and release him Possibly Maqsood or Hammad, but we all know that won't happen. Pakistan should have looked at Hafeez as a stop-gap arrangement after the Spot Fixing scandal, instead they took him seriously and looked at a player who wasn't even a regular in the squad as a future captain. Imagine Dhoni getting injured, Dinesh Kartik getting a look in and doing well and then India looking at Dinesh Kartik as a future captain, doesn't happen, but it happens in Pakistan.

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    hafeez needs to man up and demote himself to number 7 or not play at all


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    He should thanks salman butt if he is in team today just kick this profeser who dont have any clue of his own subject

    Only afridi and hafeez should be in team and on current form its

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    I dont like Hafeez's 'I think I know it all' attitude. This guy thinks he has a Test average of 60! He needs a serious reality check, he cant perform against good bowlers of the world


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canistani Hero View Post
    We'll need somebody who can bowl all those economical overs in the middle.

    He is playing as an all rounder, if he cant bat, he need to be shown the doors. I have made similar argument about Afridi as well.

    There should be no room for passengers in the team.


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    He can't play at the top, no where near good enough. I think going from memory most of his best knocks have come against minnows anyway.

    He needs to bat 6th position and Umar at 3/4. Only way the batting will get some structure to it.

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    this guy is ruining the team balance. most teams have their best player walk out at 3, we have hafeez. he should have been booted a long time ago



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    this guy to me is the last of the remaining laloos.. burden on the team right now

    no.3 in the most important position in the batting line up, the backbone of the attach and we have our weakest batsmen playing at the position

    and he is an extremely overrated bowler, he doesn't take any wickets and is regarded as an elite wicket taker

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    I am a big fan of Hafeez. His batting Technique looks neat to me. But at the moment I feel he should be dropped. We need to replace him with Sohaib Maqsood. Take out Asad Shafig and add in Harris Sohail. That would make the best Pakistan team for me.
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    I seriously doubt his IQ....

    He thinks he is blessed in all facets of the game.

    Who named him Professor? Should have been named Muppet.


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    Mohammad Hafeez, oh so untouchable Mohammad Hafeez..

    Swap Hafeez position with Umer Akmal.

    Boot Asad Shafiq out, get haris sohail in.


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    Hafeez is facing a similar problem Afridi did not too long ago. Hafeez has not been delivering with the bat for a long time now. Only thing keeping him in the team has been his bowling. However, the thing is that Hafeez has never been a wicket taker like Afridi. Earlier, he had more utility as a bowler when he was opening the bowling for us or even bowling at first change more regularly. He has hardly contributed with the ball recently. It's time for him to carry drinks.

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    He is a minnow basher and FTB. Pretty evident when he scored a century against Ireland. What happened after that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    ads is a supporter of Hafeez but he is NOT a blind supporter. The fairest poster on PP in my view.
    Lol he is a litle bit like HAfeez himslef.
    Tries everything to defend him, every performane against Zimbabwe, Ireland etc...
    Unfortunately for him, Hafeez has become undefendable.

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    Even when he was the no. 1 allrounder in the world, I wanted him dropped down. His place is at no. 6 or not in the team. He's not a top order batsman.

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    He is just lacking confidence

    I think Steyn has messed him up a little. Will take him some time to get out of that funk. He will score big soon as he is slowly getting back his groove.

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    another player who is hurting this team .......


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    Pakistan does not need 6 bowlers , its foolish to go with 6 bowlers when your batting is weak , even India does not do that.

    Fawad Alam / Hamamd Azam / Maqsood are alternatives to try.


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    The one player from Pakistan, who when set, will score very big. Very classy too! Looks to be low on confidence, give him some tie. Will eventually come good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandeep99 View Post
    The one player from Pakistan, who when set, will score very big. Very classy too! Looks to be low on confidence, give him some tie. Will eventually come good.
    or give him 10 matches on Asian pitch with crap bowling

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    Umer Akmal or Misbah needs to play at 3 and Hafeez needs to go home. I would say give Asad shafiq 3 more games of the series if he doesn't perform that should be it for him for ODIs at least till WC 2015.

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    Hafeez needs the ultimatum. Drop down the order or be dropped all together


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    Hafeez's Batting Stats for Last 12 Months

    Against test playing nations: averages 23.68 in last 16 ODI matches with the bat


    Is that really considered "performing" in the eyes of team management who want him to be the next captain? He plays in the top order and averages less than 24

    Is his bowling that good that it makes up for him taking a spot in the top order as a batsman?

    This thread is not meant to bash hafeez, its only meant to clarify that if he is performing as a bowler, than he should be in competition with ajmal and afridi for their spots, not keep out a specialist batsman, it doesnt make sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackanhyellow View Post
    Against test playing nations: averages 23.68 in last 16 ODI matches with the bat


    Is that really considered "performing" in the eyes of team management who want him to be the next captain? He plays in the top order and averages less than 24

    Is his bowling that good that it makes up for him taking a spot in the top order as a batsman?

    This thread is not meant to bash hafeez, its only meant to clarify that if he is performing as a bowler, than he should be in competition with ajmal and afridi for their spots, not keep out a specialist batsman, it doesnt make sense...
    i'm sure his bowling stats arent exeptional enough to guarentee him a place in the team. he is economical at best. there was a time i supported the idea of him being the capatin in ODIs because of the success he enjoyed in t20s but he is failing day in day out now. he should either bat at 7 or should be dropped altogether. he should continue in t20s though.


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    let T20I gets start and he will become a beast again hafeez is such a selfish guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by razabbas View Post
    let T20I gets start and he will become a beast again hafeez is such a selfish guy
    True this ! But i hope he fails in t20 too ;)


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    we should ask ourselves this question: DO we have a bowling all-rounder batting at the crucial 1-down spot?

    This is just sad.

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    Well we are welcome to replace Hafeez if we can find an all rounder who can be more dependable then him in batting

    Which won't be a problem cuz he is as not dependable at all in batting.

    But finding an all-rounder first might be a problem who can bowl just as well as him and bat perhaps a little better than him...


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    can do the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    Well we are welcome to replace Hafeez if we can find an all rounder who can be more dependable then him in batting

    Which won't be a problem cuz he is as not dependable at all in batting.

    But finding an all-rounder first might be a problem who can bowl just as well as him and bat perhaps a little better than him...
    bro but which team has a bowling allrounder at 1 down? that is just plain stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by UsmanhailsAfridi View Post
    bro but which team has a bowling allrounder at 1 down? that is just plain stupid
    Well Pakistan has major problems anyways.

    M just saying, sacking Hafeez would be useful only if we find an all rounder.

    YOu put a batsmen there, who will bowl his overs?

    Im all for sacking him, but find a replacement please !

    And In my other thread, I already suggested he should move down to 6 or 7. It has also been suggested countless times in this forum.

    I don't know why it doesn't get in his thick head.


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    Replacement = Babar Azam

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    He is a waste of space and I have been saying it for quite long.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_ahm View Post
    Fact was that Hafeez is a mediocre batsmen and will always be, his career in the national team was pretty much over and no one even thought about him, then the spot fixing scandal happened, Salman Butt was gone, all of a sudden Pakistan were looking for an experienced opener to replace Butt and they found Hafeez, then Pakistan realized that they no longer have Asif and Aamer to bowl 20 sure shot overs between them, they found Gul and Riaz leading the pace attack, except Ajmal the other options weren't that consistent so Hafeez began to bowl those filler overs more often than not, then Hafeez became an all rounder, then he became a crucial member of the team, and because of his "experience" he became a permanent member of the team and a contender to replace Misbah as captain... but the fact still remains that Hafeez is a mediocre player and will always be.

    Now it's upto Pakistan to look for a better option and release him Possibly Maqsood or Hammad, but we all know that won't happen. Pakistan should have looked at Hafeez as a stop-gap arrangement after the Spot Fixing scandal, instead they took him seriously and looked at a player who wasn't even a regular in the squad as a future captain. Imagine Dhoni getting injured, Dinesh Kartik getting a look in and doing well and then India looking at Dinesh Kartik as a future captain, doesn't happen, but it happens in Pakistan.

    Sums it up perfectly IMO. Pakistan doesn't have as many options as Indiandoes.


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    Pakistan had Abdul Razzaq at number three for years. Just saying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    i'm sure his bowling stats arent exeptional enough to guarentee him a place in the team. he is economical at best. there was a time i supported the idea of him being the capatin in ODIs because of the success he enjoyed in t20s but he is failing day in day out now. he should either bat at 7 or should be dropped altogether. he should continue in t20s though.
    He's your captain-elect. It would take high powers to drop him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canistani Hero View Post
    On what basis is Misbah preventing batsmen from playing their natural game. Okay Misbah tuk-tuks and preaches everybody in the dressing room to just tuk-tuk? He may have said the openers should see out the new ball but its ridiculous to say Jamshed and Shehzad's tuk-tuking is Misbah-enforced.
    You need to check out this thread:

    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...=182051&page=3

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    honesty I use to like hafeez and wanted him to be our next captain but by each passing match he is becoming a more selfish cricketer. He doesnt deserve a place in our top order if he wants to be spinning allrounder like afridi then fine we can use him there but he should be no where near his number 3 position


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    Mediocre player who only scores runs against Zim, Ban, Ken, Ire, Sco, Ind etc bowling attacks.

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    Hafeez would have been asset for any other team, Mark My Words

    But for Pakistan, he has been a poor performer. While Hafeez is a quality bowler, Pakistan already has an offie named Ajmal, whilst the likes of Raza Hasan and Rehman can get into the side any time. As a batsman, he has the ability to find gaps but he has been a complete failure especially in recent times, up the order. I think his ability to score quick runs could have been easily utilized low down the order, no. 6 or 7.

    Most other teams, like BD, would have loved to have someone like Hafeez. We would use him as an off-spinner and he would come into bat after Nasir Hossain. If he played for India, he would have been serving the same purpose as Jadeja

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    Well we are welcome to replace Hafeez if we can find an all rounder who can be more dependable then him in batting

    Which won't be a problem cuz he is as not dependable at all in batting.

    But finding an all-rounder first might be a problem who can bowl just as well as him and bat perhaps a little better than him...
    Must we replace a bowling all-rounder with a bowling all-rounder when we already have afridi. Why dont we have a batting all-rounder who may be able to bowl some overs if need be. Babar azam, Maqsood, or Amin could do the job. My point is how many bowling options do we have to have in a team with suspect batting.

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    In the actual world, usually your BEST batsman plays at # 3 (or sometimes at # 4), and look what we have at # 3. A piece of junk of a batsman with perhaps the worst batting technique in the entire batting line.

    We have certainly destroyed Asad Shafiq in the latest sprint at Hafeez's expense. Asad has been in and out and keeps getting his spot shuffled across the batting line.

    Ideally Asad should have been trained to permanently responsible for performance at spot # 3 followed by Umer Akmal at # 4 (or vice a versa) but Hafeez thinks he is the Pharaoh and no one should touch him. He should be immediately sacked if he is not ready stop dreaming about captaincy and not ready to bat at # 7.

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    Inzi, while he was captain, said that Hafeez should never play for Pak again.

    Of course, that was after a run of bad scores by Hafeez under Inzi's captaincy...but it was still funny as heck!

    At the time I couldn't agree more with Inzi, but Hafeez did improve. However, not sure Hafeez should be the future captain when a great like Inzi makes such a definitive statement!

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    Hafeez has been and always be a mediocre player. In his primary role in the side as a so called batsmen he always found wanting and seems to be spared from being dropped because hes a handy bowler. Its time pakistan dumped hafeez as hes yet another player whose been around for almost 10 years and simply not shown any real improvement at the highest level.

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    You should replace him with a batting Allrounder as Pakistan's batting is too weak!Get Hammad and Amin in to bowl 5 overs each!


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    Hafeez could be given a final chance as an all-rounder batting at no. 7. I'd say have Afridi bat at no. 6 and let him shoulder some more responsibility. If Hafeez fails to deliver even in that position, he should be kicked out for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Executioner View Post
    Hafeez would have been asset for any other team, Mark My Words

    But for Pakistan, he has been a poor performer. While Hafeez is a quality bowler, Pakistan already has an offie named Ajmal, whilst the likes of Raza Hasan and Rehman can get into the side any time. As a batsman, he has the ability to find gaps but he has been a complete failure especially in recent times, up the order. I think his ability to score quick runs could have been easily utilized low down the order, no. 6 or 7.

    Most other teams, like BD, would have loved to have someone like Hafeez. We would use him as an off-spinner and he would come into bat after Nasir Hossain. If he played for India, he would have been serving the same purpose as Jadeja
    For me Executioner is one of the very good posters here on PP, but I don't agree on the above. No way Bangladesh would want Hafeez in their team when they already have a world class allrounder in Shakib and an extremely talented all rounder in Nasir Hossain.

    I dare say Pakistan would love to have someone like Nasir Hossain in place of Hafeez.

    Bangladesh actually have a better batting line up than Pakistan, and their tailenders are also much better bats than Pakistani tailenders. The area which hurts Bangladesh deeply is their Pace bowling, which is basically nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam_ahm View Post
    For me Executioner is one of the very good posters here on PP, but I don't agree on the above. No way Bangladesh would want Hafeez in their team when they already have a world class allrounder in Shakib and an extremely talented all rounder in Nasir Hossain.

    I dare say Pakistan would love to have someone like Nasir Hossain in place of Hafeez.

    Bangladesh actually have a better batting line up than Pakistan, and their tailenders are also much better bats than Pakistani tailenders. The area which hurts Bangladesh deeply is their Pace bowling, which is basically nothing.
    Our pace bowling is THE worst from the top 12 teams in world cricket, currently. Few years back, our pace bowling resources where slightly better than that of India, Dutch, Ireland. Rubel Hossain was in good form not too long ago, Mashrafee and Shahadat were OK, but ever since than our pace bowling department went from half decent to ordinary

    The reason why I said that we would like hafeez is because he would be a great variety to our bowling unit because we have so many quality lefties but no offies except Sohag Gazi to compliment them. Hafeez would be a good addition to our side....coming in to bat low down the order for quick runs and bowl some decent overs in between. I am sure he would be more useful than Riad. And yes, Pakistani batting order is weaker than that of ours in LOIs though in tests Younis's class means Pakistan has the better batting department

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