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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Misbah asking him to do tuk tuk.
    And that is his biggest problem, it says it all.

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    the stunt at T20 league has really helped his game. Sharjeel has to play more T20 games as well.

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    This reminds me of his innings in a T20 against India, we lost that game but he was striking it so clean.

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    when he plays like this he is among the classiest cricketers out there

    beautiful shots, reminds me of the t20 50 against India


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    Misbah made me fall out of my chair.


    "Don't just raise the standard, be the standard."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    And that is his biggest problem, it says it all.
    He is asking him to calm down, nothing wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    when he plays like this he is among the classiest cricketers out there

    beautiful shots, reminds me of the t20 50 against India
    No wonder I like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    This reminds me of his innings in a T20 against India, we lost that game but he was striking it so clean.
    I consider that as the best T20I knock in a lost cause. Great striking without slogging.


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    People love to quote his average, so what is his record at 3 like?

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    This is his natural game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    People love to quote his average, so what is his record at 3 like?
    50+ average with a strike rate of 80+.


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    Seems okay enough...

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    Misbah is pleased by Shahzad. Good approach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistani_Legend View Post
    50+ average with a strike rate of 80+.
    if you look closely at his average at three...all his runs are against ireland zimbos or other minnows + sri lanka...he is a lanka basher

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    Two maidens in this innings, both faced by Shahzad. Aggressive, young batsman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight_Drive View Post
    if you look closely at his average at three...all his runs are against ireland zimbos or other minnows + sri lanka...he is a lanka basher
    He has hardly played at that spot against other teams.


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    SL become minnows/non minnows depending on your agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistani_Legend View Post
    He has hardly played at that spot against other teams.
    that is why 50+ average is misleading...although he is batting well today

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    Who still wants Hafeez to bat at 6?


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    Average of 46.55 at a SR of 83.35 at 3.

    Average of 54.31 at SR 86.28 at 3 if we quote his stats after his comeback.

    Quite a bit better than the stats of our previous no.3s in recent years.

    Hafeez is just a decent bat. He's not amazing. But he bats in the top order, facing the newer ball when it's tougher to score. Allowing the guys coming down to bat when the ball gets older (and the bowlers tire). He bowls 10 overs, allowing us to not sacrifice batting strength for an extra bowler. He's worth his place in the side, nor do I really see anyone to replace him. Even Afridi, while I don't even rate Afridi's bowling better than Hafeez's, Afridi's batting just isn't good enough to hold down the allrounder position. He's just a pretty good no.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    SL become minnows/non minnows depending on your agenda.
    lanka are not minnows...where did i say that mamoon bhai ....hafeez is pakistan's answer to sanga

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    Number 5/6 was never an option for him because he can score big and construct the innings well. 3 or 4, preferably the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight_Drive View Post
    that is why 50+ average is misleading...although he is batting well today
    He didn't play against other teams so he has done well. What can he do if he didn't play against them at #3?


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    How about Pakistan's answer to Kohli? just 10 hundreds behind.

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    His average is not misleading because he has scored big hundreds. Misleading averaging is that of Misbah.

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    Needs to keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    How about Pakistan's answer to Kohli? just 10 hundreds behind.
    I reckon that a comparison with Tendulkar would be more apt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    His average is not misleading because he has scored big hundreds. Misleading averaging is that of Misbah.
    find a bunker quickly

    the major and his misbities will hunt you down


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    let the Hafeezistas have a field day quality knock so far


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    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    HE should have kept attacking.

    Soon as our captain sent a message out he changed his approach.

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    oh well good while it lasted, certainly set this up well


    next time he should ignore his senior though
    Last edited by pakistanigoneaussie; 26th August 2014 at 14:51.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    How about Pakistan's answer to Kohli? just 10 hundreds behind.
    can't compare to kohli as he finishes the chase

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    Told you PAK batsman are under instruction.

    Misbah ruins the chase AGAIN.

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    Given us a great platform.

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    Terrible captain.

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    Good knock, but shame he didn't carry on.

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    Should have carried on, but set up a tremendous platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    HE should have kept attacking.

    Soon as our captain sent a message out he changed his approach.
    He hit a 4 right after that bro...


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    Is it me or has Hafeez changed his action? I remember before it was more of a straight arm action now it's more round arm also he runs in quicker and doesn't have that pause anymore.

    Anyway, Hafeez is a good ODI and t20 player though I believe he is batting in the wrong position in ODI he should be at 6/7 as a finisher, the ball won't be doing much in the last 10-15 overs and Hafeez could be lethal at this stage because of his hitting ability and with the field up he can just play arieal shots since he is such a clean striker of the ball and his 10 cheap overs are a big bonus.

    A good all round utility cricketer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    He hit a 4 right after that bro...
    Blind hater, will only see what his brain tells him, not reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cover_Drive View Post
    Is it me or has Hafeez changed his action? I remember before it was more of a straight arm action now it's more round arm also he runs in quicker and doesn't have that pause anymore.

    Anyway, Hafeez is a good ODI and t20 player though I believe he is batting in the wrong position in ODI he should be at 6/7 as a finisher, the ball won't be doing much in the last 10-15 overs and Hafeez could be lethal at this stage because of his hitting ability and with the field up he can just play arieal shots since he is such a clean striker of the ball and his 10 cheap overs are a big bonus.

    A good all round utility cricketer.
    he has

    clearly he is smart enough to notice the purge going around


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    ^ He's a very smart cricketer without a doubt. A little short on ability on though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    he has

    clearly he is smart enough to notice the purge going around
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    ^ He's a very smart cricketer without a doubt. A little short on ability on though.

    Pretty much what I was going to say. Hafeez has been unlucky to not be as talented or capable as some, otherwise Hafeez could have been much bigger since he is quite ahead of others in the "thinking" department.

    Might make a decent coach you know.
    Last edited by Cover_Drive; 26th August 2014 at 15:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cover_Drive View Post
    Pretty much what I was going to say. Hafeez has been unlucky to not be as talented or capable as some, otherwise Hafeez could have been much bigger since he is quite ahead of others in the "thinking" department.

    Might make a decent coach you know.
    I think he has a good cricketing brain, probably the best in Pakistan right now.

    He knows what to do, he just doesn't have the ability and skill to do so.


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    Too smart to bring in kamran akmal, malik , drop sharjeel and lose us the WC T20

    Anyway, an excellent allrounder and we need only him in place of Afridi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    This reminds me of his innings in a T20 against India, we lost that game but he was striking it so clean.
    Yup that was the best batting display of clean cricketing shots(not sixes) I have seen by a Pakistani batsman.
    That was just amazing. Did not see what he did today but seems it was deja vu

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    Misbah and Hafeez have good understanding, won't look too much into it.


    Misbah, Wahab, Junaid, Root, Williamson fan.
    T20 isn't Cricket

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    Just sad man that his blitzing knock didn't translate into Pakistan's victory. What a waste.

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    Probably my favorite cricketer in the team.

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    Playing in CPL has sure turned him into a west indian cricketer very attacking and a bit like Marlon Samuels, and he has gained fair bit of muscle as well, but he looked in fine touch, only if PCB had the brains to recall Shoaib Malik in the team he could've played a a great anchor role in the team like he was playing for his CPL Team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaad View Post
    Playing in CPL has sure turned him into a west indian cricketer very attacking and a bit like Marlon Samuels, and he has gained fair bit of muscle as well, but he looked in fine touch, only if PCB had the brains to recall Shoaib Malik in the team he could've played a a great anchor role in the team like he was playing for his CPL Team.
    Don't think Hafeez has transformed that much lol, when he's in form he strikes in very quickly. Always felt he was better when he plays aggressively, he's not a naturally defensive batsman, better when he goes for his shots. Part of the reason he's not so good in tests, his defensive technique isn't great for an opener/no.3.

    Shoaib Malik is our best domestic limited overs player by a distance. Scores consistently, finishes games, calm under pressure. Can calculate a run chase well too. Just goes to pieces in internationals. Shoaib Malik in domestic LOI isn't an anchor sort of player, he's more like a Dhoni. Problem is when he plays international cricket, he isn't good. He's improved a lot as a player in domestic. No confidence at all in internationals these days, looks like he's mentally shot. It's no surprise captains like Misbah and Hafeez have taken a risk on him seeing how well he plays in domestic, but each time he fails to deliver.

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    This innings reminded me of De Silva's 60+ against India in world cup 96 semi final, and also Hafeez's T20 innings in India. Two words: Divine touch. What a batsman.

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    none of his shots were slogs. pure batsman. just a FTB. but most pitches today are flat in ODIs so he should play more like this. number 3 suits him.

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    The untouchable got a harsh decision but was never in control

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    Bad decision but everyone was in their shells.

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    He is untouchable till we have better all rounder than him

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    Not a top order bat.

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    Can't play the moving ball to save his life if it is moving just a nanometer.

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    He is just our best FTB. Cant play swing or seam but on most ODI Phattas Hafeez will do ok. Aussie ODI Pitches are roads with just extra bounce compared to SC roads. Hafeez should do okay in the WC. High quality pacers will expose him but all of our batsmen will get exposed by Steyn Mitch etc

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    Needs to bat at 5, will do better

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    Ill tell you now he will NEVER do well in the world cup

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    Wonder if Hafeez has deflated his chance of becoming captain after Misbah by giving up the T20 captaincy...

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    Liability hafeez will be matured (paid off) by 2015 wc

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    Another day, another shameful performance, always said he's not a batsman.

    At least not a number 1-5 player.

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    In T20, you need stroke players and big hitters at the top. There is not enough time to hold them back.

    Both him and Umar Akmal should be in the top 3 with another aggressive batsman.

    In ODIs, needs to drop to number 4/5, 6/7 is too low for him. As long as he doesn't come in the first 10-15 overs, he will do fine otherwise he will continue to sandwich one hundred in between a string of cheap scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Another day, another shameful performance, always said he's not a batsman.

    At least not a number 1-5 player.
    Not his fault. He is mentally shattered after the last game!


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    I think it's clear now that he is definitely untouchable. Brings so much utility and balance to the side.

    Yes he's not a top class batsman, but it's not as if the alternatives are so that's a rubbish argument. Needs to be the captain as well. Misbah's clueless and insipid cannot be tolerated anymore both when it comes to on-field tactics as well as the supremely annoying inability to win a bloody toss.

    Always felt he would leave the biggest void in the team and is the most important LOI cricketer we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I think it's clear now that he is definitely untouchable. Brings so much utility and balance to the side.

    Yes he's not a top class batsman, but it's not as if the alternatives are so that's a rubbish argument. Needs to be the captain as well. Misbah's clueless and insipid cannot be tolerated anymore both when it comes to on-field tactics as well as the supremely annoying inability to win a bloody toss.

    Always felt he would leave the biggest void in the team and is the most important LOI cricketer we have.
    Agreed. But I think he just bats a little too high. At 5-6 he can potentially be a brilliant batsman alone.Can average around 40.The only thing that troubles him is swing and seam upfront.
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    I'd say probably 4/5, but he'd be on the crease in the first 10-15 overs most of the time anyway.

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    One of the worst threads on PP


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Decent enough for the top order. When in form, rotates strikes, constructs the innings and belts the ball better than most in the team.

    9 ODI hundreds in 3.5 years, which is better than most batsmen in the world.

    Has to bowl with the new ball time and time again and does better than our pacers.

    Most economical bowler in the world.

    Decent fielder.

    Very good captain.

    Most man of the match awards for Pakistan since his return.

    Contributes in almost every match in some way.

    Most of our hopes cling on him. When he plays well, we don't lose and when he doesn't, we tend to.

    Seems like a genuine team man as well unlike Younis.

    Pretty untouchable to be honest......Miss him already. Come back Professor.
    Last edited by Mamoon; 7th October 2014 at 22:39.

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    Most of the criticism directed at him (bottling, trouble with swing etc) is true for every batsman in the team. Just deal with it.

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    Mamoon having a breakdown. This is a historic day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastandfurious View Post
    Mamoon having a breakdown. This is a historic day.
    Agreed

    Mamoon <3

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    I have been clearly jolted by this defeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I have been clearly jolted by this defeat.
    Young poster, let's give you some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I think it's clear now that he is definitely untouchable. Brings so much utility and balance to the side.

    Yes he's not a top class batsman, but it's not as if the alternatives are so that's a rubbish argument. Needs to be the captain as well. Misbah's clueless and insipid cannot be tolerated anymore both when it comes to on-field tactics as well as the supremely annoying inability to win a bloody toss.

    Always felt he would leave the biggest void in the team and is the most important LOI cricketer we have.
    Completely agreed. You're always spot on when it comes to Hafeez and Misbah. Except I'm not too sure about Hafeez being the next captain. He's a very timid character.

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    Timid he is, but tactically he's spot on.

    Unfortunately we don't have ruthless personalities in the team who can also be tactically sound.

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    He's really being missed now. Brings so much balance to the side, don't understand why some people want him dropped. Personally I think he would be better at 4/5.


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