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    Have been saying for quite some time now, he's a nothing player.

    Ironically, I pushed for his return into the team at one point because he was making a lot of noise on how he has improved his batting approach and is a more mature player now but hollow vessels make the most noise and it turned out to be all talk.

    I don't see the point of persisting with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon_Ghaffar View Post
    Have been saying for quite some time now, he's a nothing player.

    Ironically, I pushed for his return into the team at one point because he was making a lot of noise on how he has improved his batting approach and is a more mature player now but hollow vessels make the most noise and it turned out to be all talk.

    I don't see the point of persisting with him.
    i think you are right...!!lman

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    No the above stats shows that Ahmed Shehzad is even worst than Imran Farhat.
    Harsh reality but true at this stage


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnykhan View Post
    Harsh reality but true at this stage
    so is jamshed...

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    Shehzad>> Farhat, if anyone sees Farhat, the majority of his runs are fluky edges, Shehzad seems a better prospect

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Shehzad>> Farhat, if anyone sees Farhat, the majority of his runs are fluky edges, Shehzad seems a better prospect
    i think shahzad=farhat ... you will realise it soon..

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    Is Ahmed Shehzad really an aggressive batsman?

    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon Javed View Post
    i think shahzad=farhat ... you will realise it soon..
    Let the people live under the delusion of age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon_Ghaffar View Post
    Let the people live under the delusion of age
    exactly, the only difference between farhat and shahzad is age barrier...

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    PLzz.. Judge him after giving him some continuous runs or atleast 1/5th the chance Don has been given


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    Quote Originally Posted by HazTheGreenKnightRises View Post
    PLzz.. Judge him after giving him some continuous runs or atleast 1/5th the chance Don has been given
    Farhat have played 58 odis and shehzad have played 24 so the ratio is way above 1/5...asad

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    dont compare the don with Shezhad


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon786 View Post
    dont compare the don with Shezhad
    Haroon bhai ..the way shehzad is performing this comparison is spot on

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    At this stage he is turning out to be even worst than Imran Farhat. At least Imran Farhat does not waste much balls. This guy waste a lot of balls and still doesn't score much.

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    he played one match against zimbabwe and scored 8 runs.... he better score some runs against the zimbos otherwise he may disappear.

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    Shezhad not just for his sake but for the sake of the counrty and even the cricketing world just has to take this chance. I fear that if he doesnt he wont be replaced by a Babar Azam or Sharjeel instead he will be replaced by Hero. The world has seen enough of Hero. Hero's very presence is a crime against cricket
    Last edited by pakistanigoneaussie; 11th August 2013 at 18:08.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    Shezhad not just for his sake but for the sake of the counrty and even the cricketing world just has to take this chance. I fear that if he doesnt he wont be replaced by a Babar Azam or Sharjeel instead he will be replaced by Hero. The world has seen enough of Hero. Hero's very presence is a crime against cricket
    it wont do anyone good if he doesnt score.... this series could very well be his last so he has to score to get selected again. otherwise we will be stuck with the hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saiyan0312 View Post
    it wont do anyone good if he doesnt score.... this series could very well be his last so he has to score to get selected again. otherwise we will be stuck with the hero.
    inshallah Shezhad will do well and Hero will have to wait .

    better yet Hero will be busy fighting a lion in the savannah.


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    Ahmed SHezad so far in the CPL: 4 matches 48 runs average of 12 and SR of 96. And to think some rated him as the next Tendu, in fact some posters here still do . This guy is a another Shahzaib Hasan/Imran Nazir, maybe even worse as at least they didnt waste balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    inshallah Shezhad will do well and Hero will have to wait .

    better yet Hero will be busy fighting a lion in the savannah.
    i hope so.

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    He's playing for his place in the team, its so clear-cut. He is by nature, an aggressive batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    He's playing for his place in the team, its so clear-cut. He is by nature, an aggressive batsman.
    if you are really good then 25 innings are lot to justify your place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon786 View Post
    dont compare the don with Shezhad
    This comparison is an insult to Don.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alamgeer View Post
    this comparison is an insult to don.

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    If we are going to have an opener that strikes at 65 I'd much rather have Azhar ALi...

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    The only reason Shezad even makes it in my team is because of his fielding

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alamgeer View Post
    This comparison is an insult to Don.
    currently the Don is actually better right now statistically than Shezhad dont understand the sarcasm but i hope that Shezhad scores in the Zim tour and his career takes off.


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    Erm... Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon Javed View Post
    so is jamshed...
    In what respect? I understand your point but there exists no need for exaggeration (as Nasir Jamshed has greater stats than that of Imran Farhat). See below:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Red Devil~ View Post
    Erm... Yes
    What else do you expect in the T20s? o.O

    ODI stats: 24 avg at 68-69 SR.

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    showed today he's an aggressive batsman and yes now he'll do good as is back in form, let's hope Misbah does the same and go from a poor cpl to a good Zimbabwe tour

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    639 people on Facebook liking Imran Farhat is the most surprising stat of this thread.

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    ^Those must be fake accounts created by Ilyas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledger View Post
    639 people on Facebook liking Imran Farhat is the most surprising stat of this thread.
    i am glad he is in form so hopefully he can keep it up in the ODI too. expecting much better performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    showed today he's an aggressive batsman and yes now he'll do good as is back in form, let's hope Misbah does the same and go from a poor cpl to a good Zimbabwe tour
    minnow basherasad

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    He is naturally aggressive.
    But he has been saying that he's more mature now, so he has been trying to hold back, and bat more maturely.
    Well, that's what I believe, anyway.
    He seems to have taken a more Dhoni-like approach, because in both of his innings in Zimbabwe he started off slowly, and accelerated a lot at the end.
    Hopefully he can perform against better opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon Javed View Post
    minnow basherasad
    well, he was back in the squad after ages in WI, he would wanna play for his team, hopefully he'll do good this series to cement his place for the next couple of series and will do good when in full confidence v the proteas and Lankans

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    He still looks like he premeditates his shots.

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    Shahza is back in ODIs with a bang..

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    oh no, time is running out for him, have a feeling he'll play for himself on Saturday

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    Shehzad has the second lowest strike rate of all opening batsmen in ODIs since 2009.



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    Shehzad has become even more slower to cement his place in the team by not taking risks...he has the shots,so can bring SR up once some runs under his belt i guess....Nasir jamshed will have fitness issues that will keep door always open for shehzad in near future..

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    58 runs off 92 balls today for a strike-rate of 63.04.

    Although he did seem to get a move on near the end of his innings, he needs to improve his strike-rate. It may be ok today and vs Zimbabwe when we're chasing low totals but sooner or later, we'll be going after a much higher target.

    Never really understood his 'aggressive' reputation. At least not with the bat.

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    Shehzad "selfish" innings watch thread.

    5th ODI vs West Indies

    64 runs, 100 balls - strike rate of 64

    3rd ODI vs Zimbabwe

    54 runs, 85 balls - strike rate of 63.5

    1st ODI vs South Africa

    58 runs, 92 balls - strike rate of 63

    2nd ODI vs South Africa

    58 runs, 85 balls - strike rate of 68.2

    4th ODI vs South Africa

    43 runs, 59 balls - strike rate of 72.8

    Today,

    35 runs, 70 balls - strike rate of 50

    I think if he puts the team ahead of his mission of taking his diabolical average of mid 20s to early 30s, paying no regard to how low his strike rate falls, he might actually prove useful for a change.

    I understand he has been one of our top scorers, but why isn't the same logic used for Misbah?

    Let alone one of the top scorers, Misbah has been the highest scorer in the world.

    When Misbah score runs with a strike rate of mid 60s, he is selfish and playing for his average only.

    When Shehzad does so, he is mature and sensible according to a decent portion on this forum.


    Do I have the right to ask why?

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    Before "blame it on Misbah" brigade comes in, make it clear he had this pathetic SR from the start of his career.
    Misbah has nothing to do with it.

    He scored that century at a strike rate of 68 too
    All things point to Imran Farhat being a better opener than Shehzad.

    Hence, both are TTFs.
    We need Sami Aslam or Sharjeel Khan as opener(s) ASAP.

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    He has a career SR of less than 70 in this era and an average of under 30.

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    He is like Imrul Kayes, both plays for their position in the team.

    Wastes too many deliveries


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    our entire OD team just plays for them self.

    I see no harm and in just bringing in all the domestic guns


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    He doesn't have a single half century at a decent strike rate, let alone good.

    He has only one major knock in his 4 year old career at a good strike rate.

    Abysmal.

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    Shahzad is very irritating at times .. we have to accept the reality , we dont have any other option , we have to persist with these average players unfortunately

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    simply stalled the innings today. What was he thinking? hardly played any shot and left around 20 deliveries


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox View Post
    He is like Imrul Kayes, both plays for their position in the team.

    Wastes too many deliveries
    Imrul was a hack but still average something around 30.

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    Azhar ali is a better opener than Ahmed.

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    My question,

    Is Ahmed Shehzad really a batsman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon_ View Post
    My question,

    Is Ahmed Shehzad really a batsman?
    No! he is a bowler who play as a opener.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oyei View Post
    No! he is a bowler who play as a opener.
    I appreciate the sarcasm but believe me, he's a specialist fielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haroon Javed View Post
    Shahzad is very irritating at times .. we have to accept the reality , we dont have any other option , we have to persist with these average players unfortunately
    Most of the times!

    Give chance to others and then decide that whether we have to persist with these average players or not.

    Sharjeel Khan
    Khurram Manzoor
    Afaq Raheem

    I am not including Babar Azam as he plays at #3 in domestic cricket and he is having an ordinary season this year which means he is out of form.

    Above mentioned players are waiting for their inclusion and we still have to persist with mediocrity? Great!
    Last edited by sunnykhan; 24th November 2013 at 16:40.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon_ View Post
    I appreciate the sarcasm but believe me, he's a specialist fielder.
    he jumps around in the field but never gets one in his hands. Just a barrier may be?


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    He is not a world beater but he has earned his spot for at least for a few series. Same cannot be said about Jamshed.


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    aGGressive Opener is Sharjeel Khan
    he will try to get after Bowlers from first bowl

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    We tried one aggressive opener previously his name was Shahzaib hassan who has an avg of 11 in 10 T20 he played. The problem at the moment is that all the batting is one dimensional, they all block block block waste alot of deliveries and then try to hit out. thats the general approach. do not rotate strike, it is hard work. That seems to be the approach by the coach and captain and thats why they select the players who play like this.

    They do have some options if they want to experiment before the WC. they can use Sami Aslam and Sharjeel khan and i still wonder why they dont try the wicketkeeper opener like Rizwan and play akmal as a specialist batsman so that he puts more value on his wicket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khurramsk View Post
    We tried one aggressive opener previously his name was Shahzaib hassan who has an avg of 11 in 10 T20 he played. The problem at the moment is that all the batting is one dimensional, they all block block block waste alot of deliveries and then try to hit out. thats the general approach. do not rotate strike, it is hard work. That seems to be the approach by the coach and captain and thats why they select the players who play like this.

    They do have some options if they want to experiment before the WC. they can use Sami Aslam and Sharjeel khan and i still wonder why they dont try the wicketkeeper opener like Rizwan and play akmal as a specialist batsman so that he puts more value on his wicket.
    My frd, look at Shahzaib's ODI stats. 3 matches. Avg of 33 and SR of 88. Better than Ahmed, Hafeez and Farhat. Shahzaib's SR is even better than Jamshed. These are the openers we used during two years.

    Sami Aslam will lead the U-19 team in the WC. I highly doubt he will be selected before that. Rizwan is not a wicket keeper/opener. Yes, he opened the innings in his last List A game but he mostly bats down the order or in middle order. Akmal is not putting value on his wicket because he's a keeper? LOL! Wasn't he getting out recklessly when he was not the keeper?


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    Re: Is Ahmed Shehzad really an aggressive batsman?

    Feet don't move. Doesn't have the hand eye that you need to get away with that consistently.

    To think cricket experts like Ramiz said he has a great technique is beyond me.


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    Shehzad doesn't just look sedate at the crease, he looks incredibly limited. It's all well and good "having all the shots in the book" but when you can barely pick up singles, whats the point? Plus, finding the fielder with a good looking shot doesn't make it a good shot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saqs View Post
    Feet don't move. Doesn't have the hand eye that you need to get away with that consistently.

    To think cricket experts like Ramiz said he has a great technique is beyond me.
    True dat. Feet dont move and commits too early, woeful technique, will never be able to rotate the strike at will.

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    Well if you can't move feet you gotta have the hand eye coordination of sehwag , gayle or dilshan to be successful and sadly Ahmad Shehzad does not have a good hand eye coordination.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    Well if you can't move feet you gotta have the hand eye coordination of sehwag , gayle or dilshan to be successful and sadly Ahmad Shehzad does not have a good hand eye coordination.
    he doesnt, but at least he is committing to play the long innings. he should be spanked for throwing it away like he did today, but at least he is trying.
    Fatso on the other hand, he is a complete joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    he doesnt, but at least he is committing to play the long innings. he should be spanked for throwing it away like he did today, but at least he is trying.
    Fatso on the other hand, he is a complete joke.
    Well you can't tolerate such players for long specially when there are a few knocking on the door already ..SHarjeel Khan.. Khurram Manzoor.. Afaq Raheem. I don't know how good or bad these guys are but they are coming through a process and should get their chances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    he doesnt, but at least he is committing to play the long innings. he should be spanked for throwing it away like he did today, but at least he is trying.
    Fatso on the other hand, he is a complete joke.
    This is where he's so poor. He's limited so the only way for him to score runs is to block his way to half centuries. Then, when the RR pressure gets to him, he gives it away. Jamshed doesn't do this because he can't even get to a half century.


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    Bullet Drive will know better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oyei View Post
    No! he is a bowler who play as a opener.
    No, he is a fielder who plays as an opener since nobody wants to open

    Reality is that Hafeez/Jamsheed/Shezad are not batsmen. I have said many times that non of them has foot work, neither know where is their off stump...

    We should pick batsmen based on FC performance period.

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    If I was bowling coach, I would get Shezhad to stand in his crease and face 5,000 85mph outswingers on a length, making him start again every time he nicked behind.

    It's his one major issue. Needs sorting as its hindering his progress.

    Certainly has the potential to be a very useful asset for Pakistan.


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    I would make him practice shots that allow for singles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOSami View Post
    If I was bowling coach, I would get Shezhad to stand in his crease and face 5,000 85mph outswingers on a length, making him start again every time he nicked behind.

    It's his one major issue. Needs sorting as its hindering his progress.

    Certainly has the potential to be a very useful asset for Pakistan.
    Instead of wasting so much time on the same player , bring in better prospects like sharjeel khan , khurram manzoor and afaq raheem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    Instead of wasting so much time on the same player , bring in better prospects like sharjeel khan , khurram manzoor and afaq raheem.
    Or how about we spend time on all of these players?

    It's not that difficult.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SOSami View Post
    Or how about we spend time on all of these players?

    It's not that difficult.
    You can't change techniques , can you?

    Or bring someone from the street and throw him 5000 85 mph outswingers. Try the new ones who already know how to cope with outswingers.

    You have got to move your feet in order to cope with swing. All I see is sideways movement either to make room to tuck the ball on the legside.
    Last edited by JibranAnsari; 24th November 2013 at 22:10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox View Post
    He is like Imrul Kayes, both plays for their position in the team.

    Wastes too many deliveries
    I'm just glad Imrul, Junaid, Nazimuddin, Jahurul and Raqibul are all done and dusted. Such mediocre players.

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    Its strange Shehzad ODI strike rate is poor but his T20 strike rate is very impressive and is also successful. Possibly playing for his place but don't blame him since Pakistan management is strict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    You can't change techniques , can you?

    Or bring someone from the street and throw him 5000 85 mph outswingers. Try the new ones who already know how to cope with outswingers.

    You have got to move your feet in order to cope with swing. All I see is sideways movement either to make room to tuck the ball on the legside.
    You can change techniques.


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    A very limited player so far i've come to the conclusion that

    He is a hack with temperament A blend of Awais Zia and Azhar ALi

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    Quote Originally Posted by farazaidi View Post
    simply stalled the innings today. What was he thinking? hardly played any shot and left around 20 deliveries
    He always stalls the innings!

    Rubbish batsman.

    Anyone who thinks Farhat is worse than him must be smoking something illegal.

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