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    Several sour-tasting chips on several notably male shoulders evident in this thread.

    Malala got shot in the face point blank and it only made her raise her head even higher. She has balls of steel from what I can see.

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    Even 64k pounds is a lot of money. Does that money Desmond Tutu is only after money too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by faraz39 View Post
    Even 64k pounds is a lot of money. Does that money Desmond Tutu is only after money too?
    The thread is not about Tutu, feel free to start one and I will give my opinion if you really want to read it.


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    @KingKhanWC Malala is a Brummie now, thou shall not intentionally criticise a fellow Bear; it's the 11th Commandment


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    @KingKhanWC Malala is a Brummie now, thou shall not intentionally criticise a fellow Bear; it's the 11th Commandment
    Ha , we are very welcoming to all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Ha , we are very welcoming to all.
    She opened the library on broad street as well I was going past it today and thinking what kind of library closes at 5pm ! it would have been nice if they used all the money from the cuts made to the rubbish collectors to pay the staff at the library a few quid to stay on a bit longer

    The old one am pretty sure was open longer then 5pm although it may not have required as much maintenance. In the end who cares about a fancy looking building, because people need to revise and read books which is the main thing; all that extra space for nothing
    Last edited by shaz619; 11th October 2017 at 20:55.


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    The thread is not about Tutu, feel free to start one and I will give my opinion if you really want to read it.
    Charging money in itself is not an issue especially if speaking at for-profit organizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    Once again bro, you've no idea about the stuff I did in 12th Grade so stop being personal, alright.

    Why can't I have the audacity to ask another Pakistani to help her own countrymen before settling abroad and sending this "bechaari" image of hers throughout the world? Pakistan was the country that gave her an identity (otherwise, who knows, she would've been another "Rohingya massacre" news story) therefore it is her duty to serve her nation 1st and foremost.

    Its not personal. You're talking as if I'm cursing Malala for going to Cambridge. I'm criticising the Ivy League unis for not being transparent enough.
    Are you seriously contemplating why Oxford preferred to give Malala admission over you?

    I don't know you personally so I won't pass any judgments. You might have done some great stuff in college, but whatever you did, it is clearly not comparable to what Malala has achieved because you are not renowned and recognized all over the world, you do not meet political and global leaders every month and you are not amongst the most influential and inspiring people in the world today.

    Malala is all those things and every single institute in the world will give her admission over me and you even if our grades are superior.

    Think from Oxford's perspective: would you rather have Malala, who quite likely to be PM of Pakistan one day or a global leader in some capacity at least, as your alumni or Mamoon or Hadi Rizvi who have no international standing and global appeal?

    It is not always about the grades, and in Malala's case, she can walk into any top university in the world with C and D grades. I am sure she probably didn't even need to submit an application and admission form to Oxford, and for good reason. She is not an ordinary person, and to be ranked amongst the most influential people in the world in your teens and show resolve after getting shot in the face by terrorists takes a lot of guts which vast majority of the people do not have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    @KingKhanWC Malala is a Brummie now, thou shall not intentionally criticise a fellow Bear; it's the 11th Commandment
    I think this is the right way to view Malala now. She fought a brave public fight for female education in some tribal areas of Pakistan and was understandably used in the propaganda war when the war against the Taliban was at it's height. Her job is done, hopefully that has meant that those areas can share the same rights to female education that was already available in most cities in Pakistan. Now she should be free to make her life over here and live it how she pleases.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I think this is the right way to view Malala now. She fought a brave public fight for female education in some tribal areas of Pakistan and was understandably used in the propaganda war when the war against the Taliban was at it's height. Her job is done, hopefully that has meant that those areas can share the same rights to female education that was already available in most cities in Pakistan. Now she should be free to make her life over here and live it how she pleases.
    Pakistani's expect too much from her, they should worry more about politicians in their country which are directly responsible for policy or those who potentially could be in that position one day e.g opposition parties.


    Ah, so this is what it feels like

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Pakistani's expect too much from her, they should worry more about politicians in their country which are directly responsible for policy or those who potentially could be in that position one day e.g opposition parties.
    I wouldn't have thought Pakistanis actually living in Pakistan really discuss her too much now, this thread was more than likely bumped by an ex-pat or some other nationality. But if they are still talking about her in Pakistan, yeah they need to worry about what's going on in their own country rather than what's happening over here.


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    I wondered why people don't like Malala, especially some Pakistanis. One Pakistani replied to me that what she did was brave but she goes around the world preaching this " false image ". Someone who chooses bits and pieces and you can see is clearly not 100% genuine. She advocates woman's rights but at the same time portrays a negative picture of Islam. That is one opinion some share of her.

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    Pakistanis hate those who point out their deficiencies and weaknesses. They hate the one who shows them the mirror.


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    Quote Originally Posted by saeedhk View Post
    Pakistanis hate those who point out their deficiencies and weaknesses. They hate the one who shows them the mirror.
    True but that can be said about most groups of people. If anything, it should motivate them to fix their weaknesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    I'm not getting personal. Doing stuff in Grade 12 is not enough...this is my point. If despite your amazing grades and "stuff" you've been doing, you're unable to figure out why you didn't make it, then I think you don't belong there. Again, no offense. [1]

    A good first step would be to take a look at your competition at these schools and how your profile relates to them. Trust me, you're not making a strong case for yourself with your reasoning here.

    Why should any Pakistani help others before helping herself? Do you have any idea how nonsensical that sounds. Any person would choose to make their life better first and then do what they can to help others. Are you forgetting what happened to her in Pakistan? Sounds like you have an issue that she chose to get an immigration...why does that even matter? The country that gave her an identity also gave her bullets in her head and a life full of fear. [2] Do you honestly think Malala wouldn't be a target again? [3]

    I think it's absolutely PATHETIC of you to say it's her duty to serve her nation first. What in the actual HELL have you ever done to serve your nation? And what gives you a right to tell anyone that they should serve their nation before they serve themselves? [4]

    Pakistanis are a cursed community and the opinions on Malala are a clear example why we don't belong in the civilized world. Thanks for the debate, I wish you a lot of luck for your future. You will need it. [5]
    [1] Mate, please stop with the guess work which is very clear from your 1st paragraph.

    [2]Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. How could you blame your country for the state its in right now when its very clear that the people running it are incompetent and solely responsible for it.

    [3] Two words. Benazir Bhutto. Ring a bell? She's also the inspiration for Malala. I don't think I need to say anymore, do I? As for those who are talking about Malala's "balls of steel", anyone can criticise any terrorist group or organization (present in the East) while sitting in their new home in the West and then claim "balls of steel".

    [4]Mate, have you EVER been to a citizenship awarding ceremony? Do you know what they say in the oath? Better check it out before talking about this point again.

    [5]True dat because we value those who aren't worthy while those who are worthy are ignored and neglected until they die.

    Few more points and they're directed to everyone who's on this topic:

    a) Since when did something as simple as speaking up for your rights become such a huge act of "courage and bravery" that you're sent to UN to give speeches and meet world leaders while achieving nothing at all with regards to whatever you spoke out for IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBOURHOOD.

    b) Let's just consider this scenario:
    What if Malala was treated successfully in Pakistan and gone back home and still held the same stance in the face of the Taliban in Swat? Now compare this to what actually happened. What would you, as a logical human being, consider "bravery and courage" among both these scenarios?

    c)According to @Mamoon, the top universities would always prefer to have alumni who have international fame/recognition etc etc. Since when did "fame and recognition" become the criteria for getting the best possible facilities and quality of education in the world? Is it fair? I thought hard work was the key to success, wasn't it? This was my point in my 1st post about Malala's Oxford admission. What about all those students who've worked hard all their academic lives and been active in every extra-curricular activity available yet preference is given to a select few in the world because of international fame/recognition? I have no idea of how to justify this claim. Again, most posters will call me a cry baby but hey, when you've put in the hard yards and you've gotten the required results and you've achieved all those awards and certificates but you're still not considered because of a lack of fame/recognition then there is nothing more demoralizing/disheartening than that.

    d)Yes, Malala spoke up for a great cause; yes she was very young when she did all this; yes she was resolute in her path but was it the bullet which made her what she is today? I certainly feel so and I'm sure most other posters will too.

    The Malala I criticise is not that young girl who was speaking for her rights at such a young age.

    The Malala I criticise is the one who, after getting shot, never looked back at fellow countrymen and children who suffer to this day from the exact circumstances that she stood up against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    [1] Mate, please stop with the guess work which is very clear from your 1st paragraph.

    [2]Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. How could you blame your country for the state its in right now when its very clear that the people running it are incompetent and solely responsible for it.

    [3] Two words. Benazir Bhutto. Ring a bell? She's also the inspiration for Malala. I don't think I need to say anymore, do I? As for those who are talking about Malala's "balls of steel", anyone can criticise any terrorist group or organization (present in the East) while sitting in their new home in the West and then claim "balls of steel".

    [4]Mate, have you EVER been to a citizenship awarding ceremony? Do you know what they say in the oath? Better check it out before talking about this point again.

    [5]True dat because we value those who aren't worthy while those who are worthy are ignored and neglected until they die.

    Few more points and they're directed to everyone who's on this topic:

    a) Since when did something as simple as speaking up for your rights become such a huge act of "courage and bravery" that you're sent to UN to give speeches and meet world leaders while achieving nothing at all with regards to whatever you spoke out for IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBOURHOOD.

    b) Let's just consider this scenario:
    What if Malala was treated successfully in Pakistan and gone back home and still held the same stance in the face of the Taliban in Swat? Now compare this to what actually happened. What would you, as a logical human being, consider "bravery and courage" among both these scenarios?

    c)According to @Mamoon, the top universities would always prefer to have alumni who have international fame/recognition etc etc. Since when did "fame and recognition" become the criteria for getting the best possible facilities and quality of education in the world? Is it fair? I thought hard work was the key to success, wasn't it? This was my point in my 1st post about Malala's Oxford admission. What about all those students who've worked hard all their academic lives and been active in every extra-curricular activity available yet preference is given to a select few in the world because of international fame/recognition? I have no idea of how to justify this claim. Again, most posters will call me a cry baby but hey, when you've put in the hard yards and you've gotten the required results and you've achieved all those awards and certificates but you're still not considered because of a lack of fame/recognition then there is nothing more demoralizing/disheartening than that.

    d)Yes, Malala spoke up for a great cause; yes she was very young when she did all this; yes she was resolute in her path but was it the bullet which made her what she is today? I certainly feel so and I'm sure most other posters will too.

    The Malala I criticise is not that young girl who was speaking for her rights at such a young age.

    The Malala I criticise is the one who, after getting shot, never looked back at fellow countrymen and children who suffer to this day from the exact circumstances that she stood up against.

    I literally skimmed through your post because I seriously can't stand what you've been saying. Let's ignore Malala and your views on her. I will not have that debate with you because I honestly think you are very naive.

    Lets look at why you were not able to get in to Oxford/Cambridge...and I'll base this off the information you've given me.

    Let's make a few things clear...starting extra curricular activities in Grade 12 is not enough because university applications are due by December of that year...Semester for all schools starts in fall Aug/Sep...that is 4 months of you doing "stuff"...that will not get you in to Cambridge. Sorry. They look at what you've done since grade 9. So yeah, that's one area you were clearly lacking in your application. It also matters what extra curricular activities you were involved in...(debate team, tier 1 athlete, not-for-profit volunteer, student club founder/leader, etc..)

    Top universities DON'T only accept people who have international fame/recognition. This is where you're wrong. All universities, specially the top ones, maintain a DIVERSE incoming class each year. Let me break this down for you....

    1) If Harvard has an incoming class of 200 students...and this is the breakdown of the applicants:
    - 400 Caucasian applicants
    - 100 Black Applicants
    - 350 Non-Asian Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankan)
    - 350 Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.)
    - 200 Latin Americans (Brazilians, Argentinians, Mexicans, etc.)

    Out of these 1400 applicants, you will be fighting for 50 spots that are open for Non-Asian Asians meaning anyone who is Indian, Pakistani, Afghani, Iranian, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Nepalese). Your direct competition for a spot is with students who share your ethnicity. You are going up against Indian kids who a very tough competition. . The only time you will not go up against your own ethnicity is when you're an "Under Represented Minority"

    So you were basically compared to All non-asian Asians during your admission process and you didn't make the cut...why? Because there must have been more students from your ethnic background that had a better application. You really are at a disadvantage because Indians have flooded all the best universities in the world and you just can't compete with them on the nerdy stuff. What you need to separate your self from the desis is unusual extra curricular activities...

    This is the same process used by all top universities. There are many different websites where you can actually read up on many very qualified candidates from around the world getting rejected because they were either White or Indian. (www.poetsandquants.com, www.wallstreetoasis.com, www.gmatclub.com - these are some websites that actually lay out the admission criteria for all top schools (these are related to business schools but I'm sure you can find more on whatever your field is)).

    And to debunk your international recognition/fame theory...I'll give you a few examples..

    1) Mark Zuckerberg - hailed from a very poor Jewish family, no connections, no hi-fi college prep high school, got a scholarship to Harvard because he learned to code at the age of 15

    2) Barack Obama - Grew up in Hawaii, no money, no fame, never met his father, got a scholarship at Columbia because he was a community leader who helped the homeless (at age 18)

    3) David Rubenstien - his dad was a post office worker in Maryland, lived in one bedroom house with a family of 8, got a full ride to Duke and U Chicago because he was the smartest kid in Maryland (literally)

    There are many others. These are some famous people who became famous after turning 30.

    And for full disclosure I applied to Columbia, Cornell, Upenn and got rejected from all 3 not because I wasn't famous but because my application was weak compared to other people of my ethnicity. If I have to explain to you how Universities go about deciding which students to include you're already behind the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    I literally skimmed through your post because I seriously can't stand what you've been saying. Let's ignore Malala and your views on her. I will not have that debate with you because I honestly think you are very naive.

    Lets look at why you were not able to get in to Oxford/Cambridge...and I'll base this off the information you've given me.

    Let's make a few things clear...starting extra curricular activities in Grade 12 is not enough because university applications are due by December of that year...Semester for all schools starts in fall Aug/Sep...that is 4 months of you doing "stuff"...that will not get you in to Cambridge. Sorry. They look at what you've done since grade 9. So yeah, that's one area you were clearly lacking in your application. It also matters what extra curricular activities you were involved in...(debate team, tier 1 athlete, not-for-profit volunteer, student club founder/leader, etc..)

    Top universities DON'T only accept people who have international fame/recognition. This is where you're wrong. All universities, specially the top ones, maintain a DIVERSE incoming class each year. Let me break this down for you....

    1) If Harvard has an incoming class of 200 students...and this is the breakdown of the applicants:
    - 400 Caucasian applicants
    - 100 Black Applicants
    - 350 Non-Asian Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankan)
    - 350 Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.)
    - 200 Latin Americans (Brazilians, Argentinians, Mexicans, etc.)

    Out of these 1400 applicants, you will be fighting for 50 spots that are open for Non-Asian Asians meaning anyone who is Indian, Pakistani, Afghani, Iranian, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Nepalese). Your direct competition for a spot is with students who share your ethnicity. You are going up against Indian kids who a very tough competition. . The only time you will not go up against your own ethnicity is when you're an "Under Represented Minority"

    So you were basically compared to All non-asian Asians during your admission process and you didn't make the cut...why? Because there must have been more students from your ethnic background that had a better application. You really are at a disadvantage because Indians have flooded all the best universities in the world and you just can't compete with them on the nerdy stuff. What you need to separate your self from the desis is unusual extra curricular activities...

    This is the same process used by all top universities. There are many different websites where you can actually read up on many very qualified candidates from around the world getting rejected because they were either White or Indian. (www.poetsandquants.com, www.wallstreetoasis.com, www.gmatclub.com - these are some websites that actually lay out the admission criteria for all top schools (these are related to business schools but I'm sure you can find more on whatever your field is)).

    And to debunk your international recognition/fame theory...I'll give you a few examples..

    1) Mark Zuckerberg - hailed from a very poor Jewish family, no connections, no hi-fi college prep high school, got a scholarship to Harvard because he learned to code at the age of 15

    2) Barack Obama - Grew up in Hawaii, no money, no fame, never met his father, got a scholarship at Columbia because he was a community leader who helped the homeless (at age 18)

    3) David Rubenstien - his dad was a post office worker in Maryland, lived in one bedroom house with a family of 8, got a full ride to Duke and U Chicago because he was the smartest kid in Maryland (literally)

    There are many others. These are some famous people who became famous after turning 30.

    And for full disclosure I applied to Columbia, Cornell, Upenn and got rejected from all 3 not because I wasn't famous but because my application was weak compared to other people of my ethnicity. If I have to explain to you how Universities go about deciding which students to include you're already behind the game.
    Brilliantly put.

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    @Hadi Rizvi

    I'll try and keep this short and sweet . I understand where you are coming from and my post is not intended on attacking you. I applied to 7 universities at the end of my senior year of high school. I made it into 5 of them, the 2 that I missed out were Colombia and NYU. I had an interview for Colombia and immediately recognized I was not going to get in due to my lack of extra curricular activities. Did I cry and complain why someone else did? Focus on yourself first. Results are what matter and Malala despite what you may think of her, has achieved more in her short life than you and I have. I tried out for the mock trial team first semester which is one of the top 10 in the country. I got torn to shreds by the professor during my cross-examination. But it was my fault. I didn't give up my hopes of being a lawyer. I got hungrier to succeed next time. There should be no such thing as free time when you are a student. You wake up, go to school, do extra-curricular activities, volunteer, hit the sack. Everybody who applies to top universities has high grades. What separates everyone is what they have achieved outside of the classroom and what can they add to the institution. So are you gonna bite your tongue and get accepted or keep crying cause nobody held your hand? Good luck and hope you make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    I literally skimmed through your post because I seriously can't stand what you've been saying. Let's ignore Malala and your views on her. I will not have that debate with you because I honestly think you are very naive.

    Lets look at why you were not able to get in to Oxford/Cambridge...and I'll base this off the information you've given me.

    Let's make a few things clear...starting extra curricular activities in Grade 12 is not enough because university applications are due by December of that year...Semester for all schools starts in fall Aug/Sep...that is 4 months of you doing "stuff"...that will not get you in to Cambridge. Sorry. They look at what you've done since grade 9. So yeah, that's one area you were clearly lacking in your application. It also matters what extra curricular activities you were involved in...(debate team, tier 1 athlete, not-for-profit volunteer, student club founder/leader, etc..)

    Top universities DON'T only accept people who have international fame/recognition. This is where you're wrong. All universities, specially the top ones, maintain a DIVERSE incoming class each year. Let me break this down for you....

    1) If Harvard has an incoming class of 200 students...and this is the breakdown of the applicants:
    - 400 Caucasian applicants
    - 100 Black Applicants
    - 350 Non-Asian Asians (Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankan)
    - 350 Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, etc.)
    - 200 Latin Americans (Brazilians, Argentinians, Mexicans, etc.)

    Out of these 1400 applicants, you will be fighting for 50 spots that are open for Non-Asian Asians meaning anyone who is Indian, Pakistani, Afghani, Iranian, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan, Nepalese). Your direct competition for a spot is with students who share your ethnicity. You are going up against Indian kids who a very tough competition. . The only time you will not go up against your own ethnicity is when you're an "Under Represented Minority"

    So you were basically compared to All non-asian Asians during your admission process and you didn't make the cut...why? Because there must have been more students from your ethnic background that had a better application. You really are at a disadvantage because Indians have flooded all the best universities in the world and you just can't compete with them on the nerdy stuff. What you need to separate your self from the desis is unusual extra curricular activities...

    This is the same process used by all top universities. There are many different websites where you can actually read up on many very qualified candidates from around the world getting rejected because they were either White or Indian. (www.poetsandquants.com, www.wallstreetoasis.com, www.gmatclub.com - these are some websites that actually lay out the admission criteria for all top schools (these are related to business schools but I'm sure you can find more on whatever your field is)).

    And to debunk your international recognition/fame theory...I'll give you a few examples..

    1) Mark Zuckerberg - hailed from a very poor Jewish family, no connections, no hi-fi college prep high school, got a scholarship to Harvard because he learned to code at the age of 15

    2) Barack Obama - Grew up in Hawaii, no money, no fame, never met his father, got a scholarship at Columbia because he was a community leader who helped the homeless (at age 18)

    3) David Rubenstien - his dad was a post office worker in Maryland, lived in one bedroom house with a family of 8, got a full ride to Duke and U Chicago because he was the smartest kid in Maryland (literally)

    There are many others. These are some famous people who became famous after turning 30.

    And for full disclosure I applied to Columbia, Cornell, Upenn and got rejected from all 3 not because I wasn't famous but because my application was weak compared to other people of my ethnicity. If I have to explain to you how Universities go about deciding which students to include you're already behind the game.
    I'll keep the tone lighter this time.

    I thought I was gonna get some long lectures about Malala etc etc but instead, we're discussing something which literally no one cares about except for me. Well thank you for explaining me all of this. I learnt quite a bit from your post and c'mon my profile isn't THAT bad you know. I actually had an offer at the University of Manchester (usually ranked in TOP 40 worldwide) so I must have done something right in extra-curriculars to get that far, don't you think?

    Coming back to Malala, I say let's wait and see what she does after she's graduated. Since we're getting irritated by each other's point of view, let's just end this here and agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Brilliantly put.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    @Hadi Rizvi

    I'll try and keep this short and sweet . I understand where you are coming from and my post is not intended on attacking you. I applied to 7 universities at the end of my senior year of high school. I made it into 5 of them, the 2 that I missed out were Colombia and NYU. I had an interview for Colombia and immediately recognized I was not going to get in due to my lack of extra curricular activities. Did I cry and complain why someone else did? Focus on yourself first. Results are what matter and Malala despite what you may think of her, has achieved more in her short life than you and I have. I tried out for the mock trial team first semester which is one of the top 10 in the country. I got torn to shreds by the professor during my cross-examination. But it was my fault. I didn't give up my hopes of being a lawyer. I got hungrier to succeed next time. There should be no such thing as free time when you are a student. You wake up, go to school, do extra-curricular activities, volunteer, hit the sack. Everybody who applies to top universities has high grades. What separates everyone is what they have achieved outside of the classroom and what can they add to the institution. So are you gonna bite your tongue and get accepted or keep crying cause nobody held your hand? Good luck and hope you make it.
    Thanks for all the advice. Much appreciated. Read post #2099 tho.

    Oh and btw, I'm already studying at RMIT since Feb 2017, therefore I wouldn't call it "crying" if I talk about it 10 months after being rejected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    Thanks for all the advice. Much appreciated. Read post #2099 tho.

    Oh and btw, I'm already studying at RMIT since Feb 2017, therefore I wouldn't call it "crying" if I talk about it 10 months after being rejected.
    Nice! I just want you to do well because I know where you are coming from.

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