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    Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka ODI Record in SA / Aus / Eng / WI / NZ

    Here are the ODI stats of Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka in away ODIs against South Africa, Australia, England, West Indies and New Zealand.



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    Pakistan pretty much right up there!


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    Can we have the stats of last 5 years ?

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    I hope we somehow bring the SA/AUS W/L ratio at +0,60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razabbas View Post
    Can we have the stats of last 5 years ?
    Overall Last 5 Years



    Overall Last 3 Years


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    Pakistan is Easily Top Asian Team in Overseas Conditions

    We shown Much better performance than India,SL Bcz we Always have Good Fast bowlers Unlike India,SL

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    Quote Originally Posted by razabbas View Post
    Can we have the stats of last 5 years ?
    Here you go:

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    Pakistan right up there. Good to see!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HASHAM2 View Post
    Pakistan is Easily Top Asian Team in Overseas Conditions
    We shown Much better performance than India,SL Bcz we Always have Good Fast bowlers Unlike India,SL
    How?

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    Sri Lanka certainly enjoy batting in England.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Here you go:

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    you selected host country not away matches in that case india played against sri lanka in 3 different countries in australia, west indies and in england so your stats are showing neutral venue matches too not away matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    How?

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    Why only last 10 Year Lol

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    sri lanka i will pick sri lanka over india any day of the week in these countries!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    you selected host country not away matches in that case india played against sri lanka in 3 different countries in australia, west indies and in england so your stats are showing neutral venue matches too not away matches.
    Here you go then. Correct no??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Here you go then. Correct no??

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    why adding neutral venues? when its clear in thread title and op that it's about away matches? why you want to derail?

    Did i mention in OP or Title that neutral venues are included? The thread is about matches against those teams in their countries not in neutral venues.


    Here are away matches stats:

    Last 5 Years



    Last 3 Years
    Last edited by WebGuru; 13th December 2013 at 19:36.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    why adding neutral venues? when its clear in thread title and op that it's about away matches? why you want to derail?

    Did i mention in OP or Title that neutral venues are included? The thread is about matches against those teams in their countries not in neutral venues.


    Here are away matches stats:

    Last 5 Years



    Last 3 Years
    Great WebGuru, these paranoid Indians always gerrymender the records to show whole 1 billion people that their team is the best...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    why adding neutral venues? when its clear in thread title and op that it's about away matches? why you want to derail?

    Did i mention in OP or Title that neutral venues are included? The thread is about matches against those teams in their countries not in neutral venues.


    Here are away matches stats:

    Last 5 Years



    Last 3 Years
    Sorry but how is playing against Aust/Eng/NZ/WI/SA in Aust/Eng/NZ/WI/SA is neutral venue?

    Not trying to derail the thread...but just curious. Can you put forward the conditions you used to get your stats, like I posted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Sorry but how is playing against Aust/Eng/NZ/WI/SA in Aust/Eng/NZ/WI/SA is neutral venue?

    Not trying to derail the thread...but just curious. Can you put forward the conditions you used to get your stats, like I posted?
    AWAY is NOT NEUTRAL.

    NEUTRAL = playing Namibia or Sri Lanka in England. How do Sri Lankan bowlers take advantage of English conditions ? That's why it's called NEUTRAL, because BOTH sides DON'T have HOME advantage.

    AWAY = playing South Africa in South Africa, England in England, ... South African bowlers and batsmen in THEIR conditions for instance, more merit than bashing Kenya in South Africa you'd agree.

    OP showed the AWAY records, and RIGHTFULLY so.

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    Moosa trying to glorify India's mediocre performance while playing overseas. It is clear that India have been rubbish overseas but Moosa can't accept this fact.

    Coming back to the topic,it is great to see Pakistan right up there! Phenomenal performance considering the various factors which surround our cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Not trying to derail the thread...but just curious. Can you put forward the conditions you used to get your stats, like I posted?
    Last 5 Years:
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team


    Last 3 Years:
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team


    Full
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ults;type=team


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Sorry but how is playing against Aust/Eng/NZ/WI/SA in Aust/Eng/NZ/WI/SA is neutral venue?

    Not trying to derail the thread...but just curious. Can you put forward the conditions you used to get your stats, like I posted?
    India is worst than Zimbabwe these days overseas. Heck even Zimbabwe would show more grit than your team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistani_Legend View Post
    Moosa trying to glorify India's mediocre performance while playing overseas. It is clear that India have been rubbish overseas but Moosa can't accept this fact.

    Coming back to the topic,it is great to see Pakistan right up there! Phenomenal performance considering the various factors which surround our cricket.
    The Ravi Shastri avatar suites him perfectly.

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    Pakistan had better bowlers, so they used to win more matches especially overseas. Simple as thatn. When I used to captain my college and club teams, I always went for quickies rather than the medium fast bowlers. Luckily we had some real quick bowlers (as per our college league standards) during that time. I strongly believe bowlers wins you matches, while batsmen only saves them (In Tests). Unfortunately India never had two quality fast bowlers at the same time. It was always one good fast bowler plus some crap bowlers.


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    Thanks. Just to get a even more clearer picture, I have broken down into countries:

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    In terms of win % - SL>Pak>Ind

    In terms of Lose % - SL>Ind>Pak

    Pakistan has 6% more wins than India.

    Pakistan has 9% more loss than India.

    SL is the undisputed king (in ODI's) for last 5 years overseas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Thanks. Just to get a even more clearer picture, I have broken down into countries:

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    In terms of win % - SL>Pak>Ind

    In terms of Lose % - SL>Ind>Pak

    Pakistan has 6% more wins than India.

    Pakistan has 9% more loss than India.

    SL is the undisputed king (in ODI's) for last 5 years overseas.


    but Overall in ODI Cricket

    PAKISTAN is Easily SL,india not even come close to Pakistan Record

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    Wow, but to be fair apart from Australia i think those teams have not covered themselves in glory in Asia i.e. In ODI's.
    So how have Aus, Eng, NZ and SA faired in Asia against the aforementioned teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post

    Overall

    In terms of win % - SL>Pak>Ind

    In terms of Lose % - SL>Ind>Pak

    Pakistan has 6% more wins than India.

    Pakistan has 9% more loss than India.

    SL is the undisputed king (in ODI's) for last 5 years overseas.


    In this last 5 years stats india lost matches are 16 and won 13 but you mentioned 14 in the loss section of your stats why?


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    lol @Moosa the BCCI Spokeperson i like your signature and passion to defend india and bcci

    btw i like your ravi shatri avatar too!!!
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    I know it hurts indian trolls but pakistan is the best overseas asian team
    We are most feared. Just ask the former and current players. Your bowling is known for the phainty it gets. Batting wise overseas you are not better then us. If that was the case your record would not be so pathetic.

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    Generally we've been the best asian team overseas, despite the terrible lean patches.

    I love how Moosa isn't giving up.
    You can't get one over WebG though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post

    Overall

    In terms of win % - SL>Pak>Ind

    In terms of Lose % - SL>Ind>Pak

    Pakistan has 6% more wins than India.

    Pakistan has 9% more loss than India.

    SL is the undisputed king (in ODI's) for last 5 years overseas.


    just noticed another mistake in this stat Sri Lanka lost matches you mentioned are 10 while they are actually 13.

    In this stat your mentioned number of lost match for Pakistan 17 that is right but the other two are wrong india lost 16 matches not 14 and lanka lost 13 matches not 10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    In this last 5 years stats india lost matches are 16 and won 13 but you mentioned 14 in the loss section of your stats why?
    Correct I miscalculated that. It should be 16 and our Lose % goes up to 47%

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    @Moosa why it is soo hard for you to admit that India is pathetic overseas yes they have won few matches, but records are self explanatory you can not defend it, there are no ifs and buts, look at our team is going through worst phase, we always support our team but we are not paranoid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
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    Good to see that number 6 team performng better than number 4th and number 1 team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
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    any update for last 3 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iffitheking View Post
    @Moosa why it is soo hard for you to admit that India is pathetic overseas yes they have won few matches, but records are self explanatory you can not defend it, there are no ifs and buts, look at our team is going through worst phase, we always support our team but we are not paranoid.
    Really depends...how you define pathetic.

    If your 'pathetic' means we were poor overseas in the past, then you are correct.

    If your pathetic means we are still poor you are wrong. With the turn of the millenium we have improved leaps and bounds.

    Everyone agrees test cricket is the true form and test the mettle of the team. India has highest W/L ratio in tests in overseas from 2000 (Stats below).

    Do you conclude pathetic by judging ODI performance, a format where Eng & Aust mostly plays their 2nd team these days? I leave that to you for answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Really depends...how you define pathetic.

    If your 'pathetic' means we were poor overseas in the past, then you are correct.

    If your pathetic means we are still poor you are wrong. With the turn of the millenium we have improved leaps and bounds.

    Everyone agrees test cricket is the true form and test the mettle of the team. India has highest W/L ratio in tests in overseas from 2000 (Stats below).

    Do you conclude pathetic by judging ODI performance, a format where Eng & Aust mostly plays their 2nd team these days? I leave that to you for answer

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    Moosa and his stupid bcci type logic!!! why sorting team wickets when one team played 49 test matches and other 41? sort it by average and see the difference my boy

    Pakistan average 26.93

    India average 32.54

    Check economy difference too and learn to use stats

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    @Moosa please use small images you are destroying every thread with big images in your post!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike Rate View Post
    @Moosa please use small images you are destroying every thread with big images in your post!!!
    Ok bro..but how to reduce the size? I use paint for the images and tried to reduce the size but didn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
    Ok bro..but how to reduce the size? I use paint for the images and tried to reduce the size but didn't work
    use photoshop software

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    Pakistan have historically been a better side than India.

    The only time India were better than Pak was between 2001-2011WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iffitheking View Post
    @Moosa why it is soo hard for you to admit that India is pathetic overseas yes they have won few matches, but records are self explanatory you can not defend it, there are no ifs and buts, look at our team is going through worst phase, we always support our team but we are not paranoid.
    lol at you. How many test series your team won in WI/AUS/SA?

    When did you last win the series in Eng?

    When did you draw a serie sin SA or Aus?


    India have won more matches in those countries than Pak and Sri (combined) in the last 15 yrs or so. Before call India pathetic, check your record and do some research.

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    whole thing after india last two matches? what happened to the great Pak team in Eng in front of the whole world? they prepared for that tournament for 6 months and thrashed by everyone in the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrolln View Post
    Pakistan have historically been a better side than India.

    The only time India were better than Pak was between 2001-2011WC.
    Its always a pleasure to to see some sensible fans like you who accepts the facts!

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    Always been saying this, will say it again. Pakistan > India.

    India = home kings.


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    India never had bowlers to take advantage of bowling friendly conditions in countries like UK, RSA, Aus & NZ.

    Not surprised at the results.

    Pak had Wasim, Waqar, IK, Akhtar and some lesser bowlers like Amir, Asif, Aqib etc These guys can bowl to the level of Steyn, McGrath in bowling freindly conditions.

    India's best bowler Srinath might only be in the category of Asif or Aqib at best. Rest of Indian bowlers will not even make it to Pak's B team.

    Until India produces world class bowlers, they will not win much in bowler friendly conditions.

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    interesting , india have drawn a lot of test matches in comparison to sri lanka and pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friend786 View Post
    interesting , india have drawn a lot of test matches in comparison to sri lanka and pakistan.
    When our batting shines, we can mostly manage a draw as our bowlers cannot get wickets to save their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Always been saying this, will say it again. Pakistan > India.

    India = home kings.
    Yeah Pakistan won a test series in Aus and SA where as only Indian team struggled in those places.

    btw when did you great team win a series in WI?

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    1>India has drawn Series against SA in tests 1-1 in 2011
    2> Won series against Eng in Eng in 2007
    3>Won a test match against Aus in Perth in 2008
    4>Won back to back test series in WI in WI
    5>Won test series against NZ in NZ

    Now this is what we call Overseas performances in tests that Pakistan and SL can not even imagine to replicate inspite of bad performances in 2011 in Aus and Eng.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
    1>India has drawn Series against SA in tests 1-1 in 2011
    2> Won series against Eng in Eng in 2007
    3>Won a test match against Aus in Perth in 2008
    4>Won back to back test series in WI in WI
    5>Won test series against NZ in NZ

    Now this is what we call Overseas performances in tests that Pakistan and SL can not even imagine to replicate inspite of bad performances in 2011 in Aus and Eng.
    Pakistan won 3 consecutive test series in england and also drawn 3 test series in england. let us know when india do that

    and pakistan also won last test series and one day series against nz in nz 2011.
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    Seems to be all India vs Pakistan.

    Wanna give a shout out to Sri Lanka, who it could be argued have been better than both sides.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
    1>India has drawn Series against SA in tests 1-1 in 2011
    2> Won series against Eng in Eng in 2007
    3>Won a test match against Aus in Perth in 2008
    4>Won back to back test series in WI in WI
    5>Won test series against NZ in NZ

    Now this is what we call Overseas performances in tests that Pakistan and SL can not even imagine to replicate inspite of bad performances in 2011 in Aus and Eng.
    Lol, some more chest thumping. This thread is about ODIs, why get so sensitive and bring test matches into the discussion? why not admit to the facts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike Rate View Post
    Pakistan won 3 consecutive test series in england and also drawn 3 test series in england. let us know when india do that

    and pakistan also won last test series and one day series against nz in nz 2011.
    before you were born?

    you are still living in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
    1>India has drawn Series against SA in tests 1-1 in 2011
    2> Won series against Eng in Eng in 2007
    3>Won a test match against Aus in Perth in 2008
    4>Won back to back test series in WI in WI
    5>Won test series against NZ in NZ

    Now this is what we call Overseas performances in tests that Pakistan and SL can not even imagine to replicate inspite of bad performances in 2011 in Aus and Eng.
    this should shut some of the trolls here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idly sambar View Post
    go read some of the posts here, people are not mentioning ODI in their post. they are talking about overseas performance in general.
    I've read the thread alright and the test matches argument was started by the Indian brigade by getting ultra-sensitive about their overseas record. In anycase, you would know what the topic is if only you had read the OP properly !


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    Quote Originally Posted by razabbas View Post
    Good to see that number 6 team performng better than number 4th and number 1 team
    you are number 6 bcoz you suck at home as well .... pak is unpredictable they can win abroad and lose very badly as home as well like the 4-1 defeat in UAE against SA and 2-1 win vs SA in SA..... pak does not have a gr8 record in home conditions ..... while india is a beast at home and almost at par with pak overseas .....

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    Pakistan

    This shows that Bowling alone wins u matches abroad & better standards.
    And batting(India) wins u major tournaments so not all win win situation.. each quality takes its piece of cake
    Last edited by Haripotter; 14th December 2013 at 18:45.

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    Agreed we are pathetic away, but we win at home.
    Since our home wins count for nothing, same applies to all the teams winning at home!!!!!
    Now as some highly intelligent and knowledgeable posters claim Indian pitches are flat, & its batsmen scoring there as it is easy to score.
    Since opposition batsmen are better then ours & scoring in difficult conditions, they must be able to score more in easy flat pitches.
    If they can't then who is pathetic?
    It has worst bowling attack, so how come it's pathetic bowlers can do good in easy batting pitches!!!!
    I am not saying for a moment India is best side or anything like that, but ridiculing it all the times is bit funny at the most.
    As pointed out here we are the worst cricket playing nation in world, Any body can beat us anywhere in the world easily, so why not at our home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamIndian View Post
    Pakistan had better bowlers, so they used to win more matches especially overseas. Simple as thatn. When I used to captain my college and club teams, I always went for quickies rather than the medium fast bowlers. Luckily we had some real quick bowlers (as per our college league standards) during that time. I strongly believe bowlers wins you matches, while batsmen only saves them (In Tests). Unfortunately India never had two quality fast bowlers at the same time. It was always one good fast bowler plus some crap bowlers.
    true that ...in every era india had only one quality bowler ..first it used to be sreenath ..then kumble ..then fo a short time it was irfan patan ..and now its zaheer khan ...india will never become a threatening team overseas like the aussies of 1997-2007 until they find 2-3 quality bowlers ...bating has never been there problem ..there batsmen do have lean patches here and there but overall they do there job better then pak and sri Lankan batsmen's


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike Rate View Post
    Learn to behave beta baap ki umer ke logo se ayse baat nae kerte. When i was watching cricket you was in your diapers
    Trust me you dont sound like someone older than me. Also you seem to have limited cricketing knowledge. Anyone who followed cricket in the last 10 yrs know that india have done better than other two in overseas especially in test format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idly sambar View Post
    Trust me you dont sound like someone older than me. Also you seem to have limited cricketing knowledge. Anyone who followed cricket in the last 10 yrs know that india have done better than other two in overseas especially in test format.
    Just because i doesn't sound old on a forum where you dont see my face doesn't mean i am younger than you beta ji. You probably started watching cricket from azharudin or ganguly era i am watching it from kapil/gavaskar era.

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    Pakistan doing quite well up there

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    Before this ODI series India was #2 by W/L ratio in NZ but now they fall to #3.


    New Zealand


    Overall (SA, Aus, Eng, WI, NZ)


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    These poor performances are compounded due to the Indian team having all the money and getting the best opportunities to hone their skill.

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    This is actually pretty poor from all of them. Sri Lanka is the only one with a W/L ratio of 1+, and that's in the West Indies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosa View Post
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    why only till 13th Dec 2013? is it because RSA tour and current NZL tour can be excluded?

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    webguru - whats the stats for all matches played in AUS/NZ/SA/WI/Eng for SC teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    These poor performances are compounded due to the Indian team having all the money and getting the best opportunities to hone their skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    Overall Last 5 Years



    Overall Last 3 Years
    Surprised to see Pakistan up there considering this is one of the weakest team compared to legendary team before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned View Post
    Surprised to see Pakistan up there considering this is one of the weakest team compared to legendary team before.
    Thanks to Misbah and his leading from the front quality.

    Now people look at Dhoni etc and realize how good Misbah has been, without even a home ground.

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    Pakistan is truly The Leader of South Asia in cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adit_sh View Post
    webguru - whats the stats for all matches played in AUS/NZ/SA/WI/Eng for SC teams
    You mean Test match also or just ODIs?

    If you are talking about ODIs thn here are the away stats of SC team in those countries.

    Overall (SA, Aus, Eng, WI, NZ)


    * Neutral matches are excluded for example Pakistan playing West Indies in Australia, India playing Sri Lanka in Australia or Sri Lanka playing India in West Indies etc


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    This thread is more like Webguru teaching Moosa about how to calculate stats.

    Funny.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    You mean Test match also or just ODIs?

    If you are talking about ODIs thn here are the away stats of SC team in those countries.

    Overall (SA, Aus, Eng, WI, NZ)


    * Neutral matches are excluded for example Pakistan playing West Indies in Australia, India playing Sri Lanka in Australia or Sri Lanka playing India in West Indies etc
    It makes sense to include Neutral also because this is how overall performance is evaluated.

    Playing neutral teams in these countries is important as it would include overall performance of SC teams.

    For example this would get the boost of India performing well in WC03/WC83 or Pak doing well in 92 and 99 WC and this would be the true stats. You often face other teams in a big tournament in AUS/SA/NZ/WI/ENG

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    Quote Originally Posted by adit_sh View Post
    It makes sense to include Neutral also because this is how overall performance is evaluated.

    Playing neutral teams in these countries is important as it would include overall performance of SC teams.

    For example this would get the boost of India performing well in WC03/WC83 or Pak doing well in 92 and 99 WC and this would be the true stats. You often face other teams in a big tournament in AUS/SA/NZ/WI/ENG
    ok mate here are the SC team stats your requested against every team except minnows in AUS/SA/NZ/WI/ENG.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    ok mate here are the SC team stats your requested against every team except minnows in AUS/SA/NZ/WI/ENG.

    All 3 of them are really bad in these countries except that India and Pakistan would have won more tournaments/bilaterals than SL in these countries, I assume.

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    It is so sad to see that Pride has clearly blinded both the fans of Pak as well as Ind since IMO overall these stats are extremely pathetic for all three teams. Barring SL in Windies no team has a W/L ratio of more than 1.00 and if we are happy just so that we can down our neighbors by running the query one way or the other the GOD help us all

    @WebGuru Mate can you segregate these stats based on Individual era for overall away figures for each team. For instance 1970-1980 then 1980-1990, 1990-2000, etc. This would show us how Pakistan has done at present compared to our glory team in the 90s. I believe this would also show if our current set of players are up to scratch relative to our 90s legends.

    I would really appreciate you input on the latter


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