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  1. #161
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    Have to admire the resilience of Renshaw. Now that is what you call a real Test opener.

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    Warner is almost like Sehwag minus the stamina for big innings, Warner is not a FTB, he is not good enough to score on turners

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    Warner has proved that he has been nothing more than a FTB who although enjoys pace and bounce but cant perform outside his comfort zone.

    He has massive issues vs spin, swing and seam and is clearly nothing more than an inferior version of Matthew Hayden.

    Hayden was brilliant in Asian conditions and was Australian best bat in 2001 series to India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Then he should find another job for 10 months of the year.
    Basically this. 80% of his runs come in the Dec-Jan period of an year.

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    Made a career by bullying bowlers on home tracks.

    Australia should start looking for another opener outside Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Made a career by bullying bowlers on home tracks.

    Australia should start looking for another opener outside Australia.
    Does well in South Africa as well. And NZ also. Struggles against spin and a bit on England early summer pitches (like most batsmen)

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    By now, it's quite clear that he will be super effective in certain conditions and useless in other conditions. You know what you are going to get from him and it's not likely to change in future. Use him accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Does well in South Africa as well. And NZ also. Struggles against spin and a bit on England early summer pitches (like most batsmen)
    averages 13 in NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by soso_killer View Post
    averages 13 in NZ
    Thanks. That means struggles in seaming and spinning conditions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    Does well in South Africa as well. And NZ also. Struggles against spin and a bit on England early summer pitches (like most batsmen)
    Australia never tour England during the early summer though. That privilege is left to the lesser teams like the West Indies or Sri Lanka.

    When Australia tour, it's the Ashes and into June or July proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Australia never tour England during the early summer though. That privilege is left to the lesser teams like the West Indies or Sri Lanka.

    When Australia tour, it's the Ashes and into June or July proper.
    He has a good average in England but that is misleading. He has never got a big score and doesn't occupy the crease long enough to protect the middle-order from the new ball. It was one of the major reasons why they lost 3 Tests last time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Australia never tour England during the early summer though. That privilege is left to the lesser teams like the West Indies or Sri Lanka.

    When Australia tour, it's the Ashes and into June or July proper.

    we have that privilege in 2018.
    yes you are right, I confused his struggles in the 'colder' summer of 2015 with...early summer.
    Can bank on him to do well in Lord's and maybe Edgbaston.

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    is one dimensional and can only play one way on pitches suited to his style i.e bouncy roads in AUS and SA. cant play on green wickets on spin tracks or any swing friendly conditions. An inferior Sehwag.

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    Warner is no FTB. He is getting mini starts but is not able to sustain due his style of play which is too risky against Indian spinners in India.His lack of patience is bringing his downfall. Renshaw at the other end is showing exemplary temperament and presence of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollack View Post
    Warner is no FTB. He is getting mini starts but is not able to sustain due his style of play which is too risky against Indian spinners in India.His lack of patience is bringing his downfall. Renshaw at the other end is showing exemplary temperament and presence of mind.
    Take today for example.

    He scored 3 boundaries against Ashwin but looked scared and shaky as hell. Was funny to see a Bangladeshi poster in another forum interpreting that as good batting. lol.

    Could have got out bad pad.

    Could have got out caught in mid on.

    Could have got out lbw. Backleg but angle saved him.

    Then Jaddu's speared delivery in the rough did it. Even then he wasn't fully forward. Basics was all wrong.

    Those mini starts mean nothing cos he is not doing it from a strong base. He needs more luck with that kind of approach.
    Last edited by sensible-indian-fan; 19th March 2017 at 16:38.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Take today for example.

    He scored 3 boundaries against Ashwin but looked scared and shaky as hell. Was funny to see a Bangladeshi poster in another forum interpreting that as good batting. lol.

    Could have got out bad pad.

    Could have got out caught in mid on.

    Could have got out lbw. Backleg but angle saved him.

    Then Jaddu's speared delivery in the rough did it. Even then he wasn't fully forward. Basics was all wrong.

    Those mini starts mean nothing cos he is not doing it from a strong base. He needs more luck with that kind of approach.
    Lol the. Only reason he was playing with that approach is because he knew as much as Ashwin and Jadeja that he is getting out pretty soon

    So might as wel throw the kitchen sink and see where that goes because there is no way in hell caution or technique would have made him survive

    The more I think about it the more it seems Warners UAE and SA performances were flukes

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    Warner could have played a big knock in the first inning of this test. Got out at full toss. The conditions were really good for batting and really not much for bowlers on a day1 pitch.

    Think he missed a big chance there. Could have boosted the stats like he did in England with quick 70s.

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    David Warner in his last 6 tests in Asia:

    12 innings, 294 runs, average 24.50

    50s 1
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    Do not remember anyone having such a horrible record outside his comfort zone in his peak years

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    David Warner in his last 6 tests in Asia:

    12 innings, 294 runs, average 24.50

    50s 1
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    Do not remember anyone having such a horrible record outside his comfort zone in his peak years
    Faf in India!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Lol the. Only reason he was playing with that approach is because he knew as much as Ashwin and Jadeja that he is getting out pretty soon

    So might as wel throw the kitchen sink and see where that goes because there is no way in hell caution or technique would have made him survive

    The more I think about it the more it seems Warners UAE and SA performances were flukes
    He isn't too bad against pace to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Faf in India!
    Tbf those were horrible pitches and I wouldn't use that series against any batsmen.

    But no excuses for Warner in this match

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Take today for example.

    He scored 3 boundaries against Ashwin but looked scared and shaky as hell. Was funny to see a Bangladeshi poster in another forum interpreting that as good batting. lol.

    Could have got out bad pad.

    Could have got out caught in mid on.

    Could have got out lbw. Backleg but angle saved him.

    Then Jaddu's speared delivery in the rough did it. Even then he wasn't fully forward. Basics was all wrong.

    Those mini starts mean nothing cos he is not doing it from a strong base. He needs more luck with that kind of approach.
    Its all in his head. He isn't confident enough. Hence those mistakes. Ashwin has gotten into his head.Jaddu is damn good nowadays and would trouble any batsman in India. Ofcourse he is weak against spin but certainly not poor. Swinging conditions he won't survive though but then how many of them score in such conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Tbf those were horrible pitches and I wouldn't use that series against any batsmen.

    But no excuses for Warner in this match
    AB avgd 36 in that series(including one where he faced 300 balls to save a test) and I am pretty sure if he would have got fairly better pitches, he would have got atleast one or even two hundred in that series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Tbf those were horrible pitches and I wouldn't use that series against any batsmen.

    But no excuses for Warner in this match
    Bangalore and Delhi were really good pitches but Faf just mentally lost it.

    I wouldn't hold Mohali or Nagpur against him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Faf in India!
    Faf does not destroy bowling attacks in his own backyard, neither is he ever considered one of the very best batsman around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    Faf does not destroy bowling attacks in his own backyard, neither is he ever considered one of the very best batsman around.
    But that wasn't the argument. The argument was about having a "terrible record" outside the comfort zone and Faf struggles vs spin a lot.

    Anyways, Warner isn't well ahead of Faf as a test player either IMO. I do agree that he is heavily overrated which Faf isn't and there is not much to compare between the two either as a player. They are so opposite w.r.t each other.

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    So the next FTB has been decided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    David Warner in his last 6 tests in Asia:

    12 innings, 294 runs, average 24.50

    50s 1
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    Do not remember anyone having such a horrible record outside his comfort zone in his peak years
    Clarke?

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    Usman Khawaja needs to replace this walking wicket for the last test. Would be sweet seeing an Aussie with Pakistani roots contributing to another series defeat for the Indians.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Usman Khawaja needs to replace this walking wicket for the last test. Would be sweet seeing an Aussie with Pakistani roots contributing to another series defeat for the Indians.

    Not happening.

    For heavens sake he was struggling against Azhar Ali, I dare to imagine how he would fare against Ashwin and Jadeja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Not happening.

    For heavens sake he was struggling against Azhar Ali, I dare to imagine how he would fare against Ashwin and Jadeja.
    Pretty sure Chris Martin would be more useful than Warner at this point. Khawaja would do better than Warner and that is all he needs to do. Not difficult.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Pretty sure Chris Martin would be more useful than Warner at this point. Khawaja would do better than Warner and that is all he needs to do. Not difficult.
    Because Khawaja's average of 19 against inferior spinners testifies that.

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    I notice Warner flopped again today. Has a 24 average for this tour, to go with his equally dismal average from the previous tour. Not to mention the terrible performances everywhere else outside Australia and South Africa.

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    Comfort zone batsman.

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    Just in terrible form at the moment.


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    Lol is this still a question

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    Struggles when the batsman have to dig in. A one dimensional batsman who cant perform outside his comfort zone.

    But he will start hitting run a ball centuries at home and Aussie commentators will start hyping him to the moon again.

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    Rattled by pace and aggression, which was his last saving grace as an accomplished test batsmen.

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