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    Is Andre Russell one of the most 'naturally talented' cricketers of all time?

    We use the word talented alot on this forum but how gifted is this bloke .
    Can bowl 140 ks easily and has an inctedible hand eye coordination , runs like a sprinter .
    Imagine him in a good system , i think he is naturally as gifted as any cricketer i have seen .
    In a good system he would have developed into a test match super star .

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    he's superb athelte rather then a talented cricketer imo


    strong, fast and great hand eye coordination but no outrageous skill


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    he's superb athelte rather then a talented cricketer imo


    strong, fast and great hand eye coordination but no outrageous skill
    I think all that equates to natural talent.
    Technique and other details are acquired in a good system

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    How was that 99m six?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ethan hunt View Post
    I think all that equates to natural talent.
    Technique and other details are acquired in a good system
    well put it this way , inzi was slow and overweight yet is a far greater player then russel


    a better comparison perhaps is stokes and Russel, id say Stokes has abundance of talent, swings the bowl, and is a fine batsman rather then a just a striker


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    He is also better than Gayle because he can play in pressure situations, unlike Gayle who only plays in meaningless matches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanigoneaussie View Post
    he's superb athelte rather then a talented cricketer imo


    strong, fast and great hand eye coordination but no outrageous skill
    Seriously?

    He bowls 145+, is one of the most outrageous hitters in the game, runs at Usain Bolt speed and is an amazing boundary fielder.

    He is criminally under-rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketAnalyst View Post
    Seriously?

    He bowls 145+, is one of the most outrageous hitters in the game, runs at Usain Bolt speed and is an amazing boundary fielder.

    He is criminally under-rated.
    to erratic with the bowl, doesn't swing it and with the bat he is great lower oder hitter no doubt but not much more - a great limited overs player but not something completely unbelievable

    as i said earlier stokes is a far more talented cricket


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    He needs to improve his bowling.

    Good pace but his death bowling is too wayward.

    He does have potential but has to play longer formats to develop more.

    All I ever see him play is slog cricket which can only take you so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havok View Post
    He is also better than Gayle because he can play in pressure situations, unlike Gayle who only plays in meaningless matches.
    Be ready for a Gaylestorm in the final...

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    Although really happy for india losing still if one has to look objectively. Saw this guy play for Islamabad United, this guy definitely is great talent & power hitter. But not to be taken too seriously when it comes to ODI, Tests.


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    Andre Russell's MASSIVE Hit-Look at the Umpire's expessions

    http://www.icc-cricket.com/world-t20...th-99m-monster

    Wow wow wow

    That was a massive hit.

    Umpire's expressions


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    WI players love those type of shots.

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    Yeah i saw that live.
    Richards expression was priceless.
    Andre is such brute. Never thought the ball would go that far. But boy how well he connected.

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    hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahh that was funny reaction

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    In his post match interview he reckoned he had hit it around 120metres.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    http://www.icc-cricket.com/world-t20...th-99m-monster

    Wow wow wow

    That was a massive hit.

    Umpire's expressions
    dude, wont you feel sorry for the bowler? trust me, in that moment, pandya was the most miserable indian. wereas the other 1.3 billion indians were just relieved that they weren't pandya.

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    It seems like the Umpire has never seen the ball fly that high.


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    Proper massive hit. Definition of a super power packed player, this guy is. on a flat wicket, there isn't much out there can make it look so easy like him.

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    Best part was he hit it to Pandya.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    In his post match interview he reckoned he had hit it around 120metres.
    haha, @Saj, his post match interview was funny as well.


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    The expression needs to be made into a permanent gif or emoticon for this forum haha, it is a classic!

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    How was that measured at 99 metres?

    Looked at least 120

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    @Saj


    Pakistan is that kid who never studies for his exams but is surprised when he fails.

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    He's a monster. Supremely gifted.

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    Talented player enjoy watching him play

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    thats a lot bigger than 99m.

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    His superb , his is underrated
    I always loved him and rated him every since he smoked us in 2015 WC in Nz...he hits the bowl as hard as any body can..his bowling is very good can bowl 140+ easily ...his fielding is as good as it gets...he is a true match winner...arguably the best AR in LOs Currently (stokes will have a thing or two to say but Stokes is best in Test..and Russell in Limited overs)

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    His six vs Pandya looked 130 m TBH

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    He's a player tailor made for T20 format. He is very athletic quick good in the field. Decent bowler can bowl it 140ks has some good variations yorkers as well.And he is a brutish hitter who can destroy any attack on his day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana View Post
    His six vs Pandya looked 130 m TBH

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    130m would have been well out of the stadium by a decent distance, I thought 99m was about right given how far up it went.

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    He is actually one of the few "athletes" in world cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana View Post
    His six vs Pandya looked 130 m TBH

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    Your IQ is probably half of that . That was max 105 Metres. Wanhkhede is a small ground and the stands are built very closely to the boundary line.

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    That was 110 meters I reckon.

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    Supremely talented. More importantly, he is more reliable than the likes of Pollard and may be Gayle.

    Gayle can make 100+ when he gets going, but when he fails, he makes like 8 from 14.

    Russell seems to always make a brisk start, so even if he fails, doesnt hurt the team too much.

    He was man of the series in last IPL, which is no mean feat.

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    I always enjoy watching him play for KKR and other t20 leagues around the world..... would have been a gr8 alrounder if he is nurtured proprly....

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    That six is definitely 105plus....can be more too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    That six is definitely 105plus....can be more too....
    Google maps measurements are usually pretty accurate and it says the distance from the batting crease to the outermost piece of that stand is about 110m so I think the measured distance was about right.

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    "It's been very hard, very tough to be fully fit and not injured yet still unable to play the game. At the end of the day, when you do the crime, you have to do the time"

    "I have nets at home and a bowling machine. I have guys that feed balls to me and make sure i'm in good shape"

    "Being out of the game taught me alot. Watching all sorts of cricket helped me to understand the game even more because the best player sometimes is the spectator. I've learned alot and that's why i contributed a lot for Jamaica in the recent super 50"

    "I've made sure that I implement what i've learned in the past couple of months into my game and I hope it continues till the end of my career"

    "I don't like to set big goals but I always look to do well and get wickets and contribute to my team. I always look to make alot of runs and maybe even take a brilliant catch in the field"

    "Getting run-outs is a bonus.I always set goals in my head but I don't like to say it because if i say I want to get 50 wickets and I don't achieve it then it's gonna make me look bad"


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    Lottery performer .On his day devastating or on his off day devastated😆

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    http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1...er-league-2018

    Hat-trick in the last over, then comes in at 41/5 and smashes 121* off 49 to chase down 224 - One of the GOAT T20 performances


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    That is easily the greatest ever performance in a T20 ever

    Top performer in this format. Unlike Gayle he is a top athlete too.

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    Him not playing international cricket is honestly one of the biggest tradegies in cricket.

    He’s always had the potential to be the best all rounder of our time.

    He’s better than stokes that’s for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_kazmi View Post
    Him not playing international cricket is honestly one of the biggest tradegies in cricket.

    He’s always had the potential to be the best all rounder of our time.

    He’s better than stokes that’s for sure.
    Potential doesnt mean anything Results and substance is what defines the quality of players and in that respect the likes of stokes who has scored test hundreds and took test wickets home and away is way ahead than Andre Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Potential doesnt mean anything Results and substance is what defines the quality of players and in that respect the likes of stokes who has scored test hundreds and took test wickets home and away is way ahead than Andre Russell
    Ofcourse.

    I just think that he has the ability to be a world class test all rounder. Whether he would actually be able to deliver is a different question and would be based on how he actually applies his skills to intl cricket.

    But one thing is for sure is that he’s definetly more talented, skillful and more athletic than Ben Stokes. Russel can bowl at 90MPH and is also one of the best strikers in the world.

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    Who?

    A guy who is 30 years old and has a Test batting average of 2.00 and a bowling average of 104.00 runs per wicket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Who?

    A guy who is 30 years old and has a Test batting average of 2.00 and a bowling average of 104.00 runs per wicket!
    Played one test match and I don't blame him for that given how WICB treats their players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Who?

    A guy who is 30 years old and has a Test batting average of 2.00 and a bowling average of 104.00 runs per wicket!
    Even in LOI cricket he is nothing special. His bowling gets smashed in INT cricket. Batting is average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_kazmi View Post
    Ofcourse.

    I just think that he has the ability to be a world class test all rounder. Whether he would actually be able to deliver is a different question and would be based on how he actually applies his skills to intl cricket.

    But one thing is for sure is that he’s definetly more talented, skillful and more athletic than Ben Stokes. Russel can bowl at 90MPH and is also one of the best strikers in the world.
    There athleticism is same.
    Russell is more skillfull & talented for limited overs cricket.
    But for test cricket there is no comparison. Russell at best would have end up just like pandya.
    Also he said in the past that he has bad knees & can't survive test cricket load. So he focuses on giving his 200% in white ball cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Who?

    A guy who is 30 years old and has a Test batting average of 2.00 and a bowling average of 104.00 runs per wicket!
    He has played a grand total of 1 Test Match(es).And he only batted in 1 innings.

    He may not have been test material,and he has underachieved in LOIs so far considering his talent.His bowling is decent but it’s his destructive batting that’s remarkable.

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    Just like Afridi, no? Great athlete, but doesn't have the cricket intelligence to perform consistently or make it big in Test cricket.

    The way T20 is taking over everything he unfortunately will not be the last one to not make the most of his potential.


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    Born in the wrong system. Australia would've turned him into the greatest all-rounder of all time. He's the most gifted player I've ever seen.


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    Russell is a T20 league special not more than that. He is pretty inconsistent in West Indian color with a below average stat.

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    Also in the recent series against Bangladesh he was brutal with the bat. Nearly destroyed us almost always.

    But his bowling lacks much skill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post
    Born in the wrong system. Australia would've turned him into the greatest all-rounder of all time. He's the most gifted player I've ever seen.
    Abd?

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    Not to forget he look a stunning catch in the match too. Best performance in a T20 hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shebimalik View Post
    Abd?
    ABD can't bowl 90mph.


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    Andre Russel has serious competition from some equally talented Pakistani all rounders.
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    That was one hell of a knock. One of the best t20 innings. He is very very talented. He needs to perform consistently though.Brilliant t20 player.MVP in t20s.

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    For T20 could be yes! for any other format no way near.

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    Please do not compare A good T20 batsman from WI (Dine a dozen) with the Universe boss.

    Dre Russ gets tonked all the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corridor of Uncertainty View Post
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    Andre Russel has serious competition from some equally talented Pakistani all rounders.
    Since when did Taufeeq Umar and Imran Nazir bowl?

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    Not bowling at full throttle.


    Is his knee ok ?


    Is he fully fit ?

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    AR's last few scores:

    49* (19); 48 (17); 62 (28); 48* (13).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    AR's last few scores:

    49* (19); 48 (17); 62 (28); 48* (13).
    Thats called BEAST mode... WI should play him in world cup. Btw was he not unfit during PSL or left tournament midday?

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    How is bowling in the IPL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    How is bowling in the IPL?
    I don't know much but fans of IPL have claimed in the past that Mohit Sharma, Sran, Unadkat, Dinda, Chahar, Kaul, Thakur are products of IPL. And they all were abused by these same fans during their short international career.

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    Is this the maddest innings of his? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    How is bowling in the IPL?
    He ripped stoinis and Southee apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    AR's last few scores:

    49* (19); 48 (17); 62 (28); 48* (13).
    Ming blowing form he is in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    I don't know much but fans of IPL have claimed in the past that Mohit Sharma, Sran, Unadkat, Dinda, Chahar, Kaul, Thakur are products of IPL. And they all were abused by these same fans during their short international career.
    and Bumrah, Chahal, Kuldeep too..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smbhayi View Post
    and Bumrah, Chahal, Kuldeep too..
    http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...Jasprit-Bumrah

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    He ripped stoinis and Southee apart.
    No doubt he is a good hitter but although Southee is great test bowler but as a T20 bowler he makes me look international material, and Stoinis isn't very good. Russell struggled in the PSL because he didn't have the buffet bowling to hit.

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    Re baba ye batsman ya batman jo aisi dhunai karta hai.😶😶😶😶

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    No doubt he is a good hitter but although Southee is great test bowler but as a T20 bowler he makes me look international material, and Stoinis isn't very good. Russell struggled in the PSL because he didn't have the buffet bowling to hit.
    No sluggish pitches. These bowlers will be cartered all over at wankede, bangalore stadium. Nothing to do with quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    IPL fast tracked him, no.,? don't you agree..? but that press meeting more of a reply to oh-koffee incident.. Btw he said multiple times that Malinga helped him a lot, and he lot of things from him.. how this happened..!? bcos of IPL..


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    IPL 207 runs from 77 balls.

    PSL 50 runs at an average of 12.50



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    Ingram, Watto, Pollard all struggle here. Random dudes like Delport, Livingston had a ball out there. Can't compare leagues like that. Pitch conditions, crowd effect, MONEY !!! He is getting paid like 8 crores. Sure he will have more motivation to retain his spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    I don't know much but fans of IPL have claimed in the past that Mohit Sharma, Sran, Unadkat, Dinda, Chahar, Kaul, Thakur are products of IPL. And they all were abused by these same fans during their short international career.
    Lol!

    My bad but I missed a word (i.e. 'he') in my original post. I wanted to ask how Russell is bowling in the IPL. He was way below 100% during the PSL.


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