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    Sarfaraz Khan - Another batting talent from India

    Scored 45 of 21 balls today against Rajasthan and he is only 17 years old
    Played some very innovative shots as well!

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    Oh please. Only 1 inning?


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    First impression: Slogger. Nothing special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Oh please. Only 1 inning?
    He is a talent for sure!
    Whether he goes on to convert it into real performances is yet to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrexEverything View Post
    First impression: Slogger. Nothing special.
    We need sloggers for t20 and one day cricket.
    Technique is over-rated in limited overs cricket.

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    Was good in U-19 WC as well even though he was only 16

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    One good innings and these threads start.

    Remember Paul Valthaty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by battler View Post
    We need sloggers for t20 and one day cricket.
    Technique is over-rated in limited overs cricket.
    In t20, yes sloggers are useflu. In ODIs, no thanks.

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    Sarfraz khan has loads of time to improve, He is only 17.

    He has improved since the last season and looks confident while attempting his shots. He is no Yusuf Pathan who has always been a slogger that cannot improvise.

    Sarfraz can improvise and packs some power in his shots. A 17yr old hitting those big shots is amazing to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mithun_minhas View Post
    Sarfraz khan has loads of time to improve, He is only 17.

    He has improved since the last season and looks confident while attempting his shots. He is no Yusuf Pathan who has always been a slogger that cannot improvise.

    Sarfraz can improvise and packs some power in his shots. A 17yr old hitting those big shots is amazing to see.

    He is not 17. I remember in Indian forum people were discussing how his father and he cheated his age. He is definitely not 17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    I love how during the IPL every player who performs in one game has threads opened calling for them to make the senior Indian side

    This guy must have Pakistani parents, very Pakistani sounding name, to me at least.
    Many muslims live in India. We have had many good muslim players like Zaheer Khan, Mohammad Shami in recent times

    And good to see batsmen coming from that community too

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    Quote Originally Posted by battler View Post
    We need sloggers for t20 and one day cricket.
    Technique is over-rated in limited overs cricket.
    The best limited over talent like AB have great technique. Which pure slogger has been successful in the long run even in T20s? Gayle etc are not sloggers at all

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    Sarfraz Khan will be the next AB de Villiers. U read it here 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrexEverything View Post
    In t20, yes sloggers are useflu. In ODIs, no thanks.
    At the moment he is not a top order batsman, I don't see why he can't be a good lower bat for India.
    If jadeja keeps failing with the bat then we might have to try out other youngsters at that spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiafan View Post
    The best limited over talent like AB have great technique. Which pure slogger has been successful in the long run even in T20s? Gayle etc are not sloggers at all
    Like I said he is pretty innovative with his shots too, he is not an all power or nothing type of player.
    Can be a useful lower middle order player in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raw deal View Post
    He is not 17. I remember in Indian forum people were discussing how his father and he cheated his age. He is definitely not 17.
    he cheated when he was younger,his current age is 17 now

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    I have high hopes from Sarfaraz Khan.


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    remember him from world cup a few years back

    awesome record as a youngster so has been marked for greatness for a while

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    Isn't he the brother of the kid who bowled Yuvraj??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Oh please. Only 1 inning?
    Sarfaraz was the one to break Sachin Tendulkar's Harris Shield inter-school record, scoring 439.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desi_launda View Post
    he cheated when he was younger,his current age is 17 now

    You will never know with cheaters. So much for accusing Pakistani players for cheating their age.

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    Sarfraz Khan is the new kid on the block.

    Didn't watch today's match but the first thing I see to see if a guy is quality is his FC stats.

    Now Sarfraz doesn't have a big or even decent sample set but he averages 23, 29 and 16 in First Class, List A and T20 domestic.

    Played very few matches so its too early to judge.

    As of now, you can't really predict anything.


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    India need test calibre batsmen

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNAmarkFromIndia View Post
    Sarfaraz was the one to break Sachin Tendulkar's Harris Shield inter-school record, scoring 439.
    That wasn't Sachin's record . It was R Nagdev's.

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    He didn't impress me tbh.Vohra and Mandy are better

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    Sarfraz Khan is the new kid on the block.

    Didn't watch today's match but the first thing I see to see if a guy is quality is his FC stats.

    Now Sarfraz doesn't have a big or even decent sample set but he averages 23, 29 and 16 in First Class, List A and T20 domestic.

    Played very few matches so its too early to judge.

    As of now, you can't really predict anything.
    Yeah, he should play a minimum of atleast 2 seasons of first-class cricket, then he will be able to judge his own potential and game better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    India need test calibre batsmen
    And we have many of them, actually we need some lower order power hitters for our odi and t20 team.

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    Some decent shots by the teenager.Scored 45(21).



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    lol i have been hearing that he is 17y.o. from last 2 yrs. In reality he must be 21-23 y.o. imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by battler View Post
    And we have many of them, actually we need some lower order power hitters for our odi and t20 team.
    Your ODI and T20 team is fine. Its your Test team which is an issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Your ODI and T20 team is fine. Its your Test team which is an issue
    That's because we have a very crapp bowling unit for tests over-seas.
    We were able to draw 2 tests in australia only due to our batters.

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    is he related to that one season wonder Kamran khan or sth like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    is he related to that one season wonder Kamran khan or sth like that?
    No.Kamran Khan had an illegal action and now he's a farmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by srh View Post
    Your ODI and T20 team is fine. Its your Test team which is an issue
    Still lacking good lower order hitters. Dhoni is past it and Jadeja can't bat to save his life.

    Test team is doing fine. No batsman issues.

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    This is what upsets me the most.When somebody says X,Y,Z is a future prospect on the basis of IPL performance.
    What has Bisla done ?
    Why is Manish Pandey still not a part of the national squad ?
    Where are Paul Valthaty and Swapnil Asnodkar ?
    What is Manpreet Gony doing ?
    What about Aditya Tare ?

    Where is Shadab Jakati ?
    Soon to be added... Sarfaraz Khan,Chahal,Surya kumar Yadav,Bumrah etc etc
    IPL success rarely translates into international success be it t20,ODI or tests.It has been 8 years and yet we fail to realize it.

    Ye sab team mein ayenge toh Manoj Tiwary,Uthappa,KL Rahul,Hanuma Vihari,Kedar Jadhav kahan jayenge ??

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    Doesn't look fit enough honestly.


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    Sarfraz Khan's brother Musheer Khan became the youngest player in the world to play club cricket as he played at the age of just 8

    We should be hearing about Musheer Khan too in the next 4-5 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNightWatchman View Post
    Isn't he the brother of the kid who bowled Yuvraj??
    Yeah,His brother is Musheer khan who bowled Yuvraj back in 2013..

    He was 8 yrs old that time..He was selected for U-14 tournament at the age of 9.

    His father is Naushad khan who coaches both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fringe playa View Post
    This is what upsets me the most.When somebody says X,Y,Z is a future prospect on the basis of IPL performance.
    What has Bisla done ?
    Why is Manish Pandey still not a part of the national squad ?
    Where are Paul Valthaty and Swapnil Asnodkar ?
    What is Manpreet Gony doing ?
    What about Aditya Tare ?

    Where is Shadab Jakati ?
    Soon to be added... Sarfaraz Khan,Chahal,Surya kumar Yadav,Bumrah etc etc
    IPL success rarely translates into international success be it t20,ODI or tests.It has been 8 years and yet we fail to realize it.

    Ye sab team mein ayenge toh Manoj Tiwary,Uthappa,KL Rahul,Hanuma Vihari,Kedar Jadhav kahan jayenge ??
    Well you can't put them in that category either he is just 17 wait for 2-3 years atleast.On one side you say IPL shouldn't be the judge of things on other you judge as you wish.


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    He is a serious talent.....mark my words.....

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    Sarfraz's list of disciplinary problems is quiet long including his father's several run ins with selectors regarding his true age, fitness problems, clashes with team mates & coaches, eating disorders, etc.

    Has to sort himself out before taking on the pressures of playing intl cricket.

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    The strike at which he is playing excites me so much.

    He played handy innings along with Sanju in u-19 wc against Pakistan last year.

    He also played good innings against Scotland along with Hooda when India was in trouble at 23/5.

    He will surely play next u-19 wc next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fringe playa View Post
    This is what upsets me the most.When somebody says X,Y,Z is a future prospect on the basis of IPL performance.
    What has Bisla done ?
    Why is Manish Pandey still not a part of the national squad ?
    Where are Paul Valthaty and Swapnil Asnodkar ?
    What is Manpreet Gony doing ?
    What about Aditya Tare ?

    Where is Shadab Jakati ?
    Soon to be added... Sarfaraz Khan,Chahal,Surya kumar Yadav,Bumrah etc etc
    IPL success rarely translates into international success be it t20,ODI or tests.It has been 8 years and yet we fail to realize it.

    Ye sab team mein ayenge toh Manoj Tiwary,Uthappa,KL Rahul,Hanuma Vihari,Kedar Jadhav kahan jayenge ??
    Manish Pandey was included in the ODI & T20I team against West Indies before the series was cancelled. And he is scoring loads of runs in domestic. Expect Manish Pandey to make his ODI debut against Bangladesh/Zimbabwe after this IPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanny View Post
    Sarfraz's list of disciplinary problems is quiet long including his father's several run ins with selectors regarding his true age, fitness problems, clashes with team mates & coaches, eating disorders, etc.

    Has to sort himself out before taking on the pressures of playing intl cricket.
    lol and he's 17?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fringe playa View Post
    This is what upsets me the most.When somebody says X,Y,Z is a future prospect on the basis of IPL performance.
    What has Bisla done ?
    Why is Manish Pandey still not a part of the national squad ?
    Where are Paul Valthaty and Swapnil Asnodkar ?
    What is Manpreet Gony doing ?
    What about Aditya Tare ?

    Where is Shadab Jakati ?
    Soon to be added... Sarfaraz Khan,Chahal,Surya kumar Yadav,Bumrah etc etc
    IPL success rarely translates into international success be it t20,ODI or tests.It has been 8 years and yet we fail to realize it.

    Ye sab team mein ayenge toh Manoj Tiwary,Uthappa,KL Rahul,Hanuma Vihari,Kedar Jadhav kahan jayenge ??
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Ambati Rayudu
    Mohit Sharma
    Akshar Patel

    Some of the IPL finds who did well in ODIs too

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    He is massive talent for sure .Has a record of attitude

    Hopefully spending time with the likes of Kohli De Villiers and Vettori sorts him out .

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Ambati Rayudu
    Mohit Sharma
    Akshar Patel

    Some of the IPL finds who did well in ODIs too
    Umesh Yadav
    Aaron
    Raina (2nd coming )

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Ambati Rayudu
    Mohit Sharma
    Akshar Patel

    Some of the IPL finds who did well in ODIs too
    I think Shami was an IPL find too

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNightWatchman View Post
    fft
    Kohli is one of the hardest working players going around .Ego is different attitude for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by fringe playa View Post
    This is what upsets me the most.When somebody says X,Y,Z is a future prospect on the basis of IPL performance.
    What has Bisla done ?
    Why is Manish Pandey still not a part of the national squad ?
    Where are Paul Valthaty and Swapnil Asnodkar ?
    What is Manpreet Gony doing ?
    What about Aditya Tare ?

    Where is Shadab Jakati ?
    Soon to be added... Sarfaraz Khan,Chahal,Surya kumar Yadav,Bumrah etc etc
    IPL success rarely translates into international success be it t20,ODI or tests.It has been 8 years and yet we fail to realize it.

    Ye sab team mein ayenge toh Manoj Tiwary,Uthappa,KL Rahul,Hanuma Vihari,Kedar Jadhav kahan jayenge ??

    I dont get it .
    you want me to list out Ranji sucesses who have proved to be duds at international level ?

    Srafaraz looks like some one who has lots of time when he bats , clean hitter of the ball . None of his shots where slogs . He improvised yes , slogger hes not .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    lol and he's 17?
    He was 'certified' as 17y.o. two years ago.

    To add further he already has a dietician & a psychiatrist looking after his weight issues apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNightWatchman View Post
    I think Shami was an IPL find too
    Umesh Yadav got all the attention cos of IPL . I still remember his first ball to Suresh Raina where he nearly yorked him and clocked nearly 150kph and got every one excited .


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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Ambati Rayudu
    Mohit Sharma
    Akshar Patel

    Some of the IPL finds who did well in ODIs too
    All of these players had domestic stats too (Axar has too little sample set).

    IPL gave them reach and confidence for sure but domestic stats showed that they were reliable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jusarrived View Post
    Umesh Yadav got all the attention cos of IPL . I still remember his first ball to Suresh Raina where he nearly yorked him and clocked nearly 150kph and got every one excited .
    I said this before. India has a huge advantage of IPL. They are able to spot talent more easily. The game is more televised and you can tell which domestic player can "hang with the big boys". The list of players you mentioned is proof. (Dhawan too). More than half the Indian team in the WC was full of IPL finds

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    All of these players had domestic stats too (Axar has too little sample set).

    IPL gave them reach and confidence for sure but domestic stats showed that they were reliable.
    Ashwin wasn't as great in domestics as he was in IPL. He is and remains to this day the biggest success story from IPL. Also the fact that he was Dhoni's teammate in Chennai propelled him into the national team

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit View Post
    Ravichandran Ashwin
    Ravindra Jadeja
    Ambati Rayudu
    Mohit Sharma
    Akshar Patel

    Some of the IPL finds who did well in ODIs too
    Only Ashwin of these would be considered a success.

    and even then he is not an elite bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Only Ashwin of these would be considered a success.

    and even then he is not an elite bowler
    Kamran Khan had potential but he had an illegal action

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raw deal View Post
    He is not 17. I remember in Indian forum people were discussing how his father and he cheated his age. He is definitely not 17.
    He is definitely 17. Look at his size, he is a tiny pudgy boy. He has been junior school cricket since he was a 5 year old boy. He has been trained all his life by his dad for him to be a cricketer. He never attended proper schools. He gets up at 6 AM everyday, practices on a special astro-turf constructed for him. His dad forced him to bat hours at a time under match conditions and forced him to run one round for every time he got out.

    He is not a slogger by mentality, he has been brought up to value his wicket to a ridiculous extent (such as today when he refused a risky second on the last ball of the innings, so he could stay not out).

    When a player is trained like this and his rise is documented so well, it's very unlikely to be age fudging.

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    I think simple fact is and people need to realize that no player is an IPL product.

    3 months in IPL doesn't make a player

    its the hard yards in FC(Ranji) and the parallel list A matches played over the season which makes a player

    IPL helps in different ways. Namely, financial along with learning how to deal with pressure and crowds and observing how the elite players conduct themselves.

    These things are as important as the skills and talent but doesn't mean that a successful player be deemed an IPL product as a result of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketAnalyst View Post
    He is definitely 17. Look at his size, he is a tiny pudgy boy. He has been junior school cricket since he was a 5 year old boy. He has been trained all his life by his dad for him to be a cricketer. He never attended proper schools. He gets up at 6 AM everyday, practices on a special astro-turf constructed for him. His dad forced him to bat hours at a time under match conditions and forced him to run one round for every time he got out.

    He is not a slogger by mentality, he has been brought up to value his wicket to a ridiculous extent (such as today when he refused a risky second on the last ball of the innings, so he could stay not out).

    When a player is trained like this and his rise is documented so well, it's very unlikely to be age fudging.
    Parthiv Patel still looks 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNightWatchman View Post
    Ashwin wasn't as great in domestics as he was in IPL. He is and remains to this day the biggest success story from IPL. Also the fact that he was Dhoni's teammate in Chennai propelled him into the national team
    Ashwin was steady in first class and was outrageously good in List A if I am not wrong.

    Those are key indicators for stability.

    Selectors look at IPL performance and domestic performance to see if someone should be selected.


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    IPL could be credited if they start picking players at early teen and then groom them,not sure if that's happening anytime soon.RR and CSK have good scouts but they should also develop academies to groom new players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Parthiv Patel still looks 15
    His height doesn't help

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    IPL could be credited if they start picking players at early teen and then groom them,not sure if that's happening anytime soon.RR and CSK have good scouts but they should also develop academies to groom new players.
    There is no incentive to do so under the present system, because the player will still go to an auction instead of the team being guaranteed a right to play him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketAnalyst View Post
    There is no incentive to do so under the present system, because the player will still go to an auction instead of the team being guaranteed a right to play him.
    Yes waiting for Auction to be over either that or we need high school level cricket to be televised to be made into a big thing so that draft system can be introduced into IPL.


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    Sorry for the rant.Couldn't control the frustration.
    I am 18 and this Ramesh Powar look alike seems 30+.
    This guy debuting for India would be worse than Vinay Kumar getting his test cap at Perth.
    Ashwin is the only real talent that has come out of IPL.Lol at Rayadu and Axar.

    Our claims of talent emerging from IPL is similar to pak fans boasting of golden era of batsmanship after some tests in UAE .

    Manish Pandey was hyped to the moon 6-7 years ago.Yet to make debut for India... clearly suggesting that he is not that good afterall(has had a good 2014-15 domestic season)

    Not like i hate all "IPL talents".Sanju,Iyer,Sandeep,Karun and Hooda are good and are real prospects for future.

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    India should send a team to the World T20 with just the best Indian performers of the last 2-3 IPL seasons and see how they fare. Not take into account their names or international pedigree. For eg. if Kohli isn't part of the best 11 statisticially though IPL then so be it.

    Would love to see how the team fares

    For all we know the team could get a first round knockout but with a WT20 every 2 yrs I feel its worth sacrificing one tournament to see where do these guys stand

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    The next Tendulkar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    India should send a team to the World T20 with just the best Indian performers of the last 2-3 IPL seasons and see how they fare. Not take into account their names or international pedigree. For eg. if Kohli isn't part of the best 11 statisticially though IPL then so be it.

    Would love to see how the team fares

    For all we know the team could get a first round knockout but with a WT20 every 2 yrs I feel its worth sacrificing one tournament to see where do these guys stand
    If the Indian T20 side was selected on T20 merit, Rahane, Dhawan, Rayudu wouldn't make it and nor would Jadeja. His T20 batting has regressed a lot and he barely bowls now, so it's tough to see why he should be selected over Tambe or Chahal who are incredibly tough to hit and regularly claim wickets.

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    are we sure he is 17, i remember when afridi came to the international arena he was 16. Yeah, i believe that.

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    video please


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    Reminds me a little of Javed Miandad with his technique. Still a long way to go, but hopefully now he gets to play more games.

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    Very interesting prospect indeed. Seems to have a bit of mongrel about him too. I think he has the potential to go far.

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    The worst possible thing that could have happened to him in the long run. The expectations will hamper his progress and just like Afridi, everybody will expect the same every match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    So happy to see him.

    He is a friend of mine and I knew that he will prosper. He also has a younger brother who is a terrific talent. Both will play in the Indian team together one day as the Khan brothers. This will be bumped in 10 years
    Sir

    Please dont support him.Players you support some how end up being U.Akmal and A.Shehzad.Sarfaraz is considered a massive talent and Indians have high hopes from him.So i sincerely request you with folded hands to not support him for his own good.Please dont take it otherwise but i dont want this guy jinxed.Please i am extremely sorry if this post offends you and beg your forgiveness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WrexEverything View Post
    That wasn't Sachin's record . It was R Nagdev's.
    Ah. Right.

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    It was difficult to get him out in the u19 WC and he can still play the next u19 WC too and will kill the bowlers.


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    What an innings! A huge talent for India.


    Sehwag and Steyn are the Best.

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    please unearth a bowler from somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    So happy to see him.

    He is a friend of mine and I knew that he will prosper. He also has a younger brother who is a terrific talent. Both will play in the Indian team together one day as the Khan brothers. This will be bumped in 10 years
    yaar yay sub tumharay dost hain? kis tara? would be interesting to ehar how you know these guys..

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